View Full Version : What causes the first time to have no effect?
Bob the Awesome
09-27-2006, 03:02 AM
I have a close friend, and we may have an opportunity in a month to have her smoke for the first time (Her parents are very strict and we're going to a concert which will take all day). It is the only opportunity we will have for a while, so I want to make sure it works for her the first time.
I do know that many first-time users don't get high, so what I would like to know is, what are some things we can do to lessen the chance of her not getting high the first time? Thanks in Advance.:dance:
think green
09-27-2006, 03:08 AM
It's almost always because theyre not inhaling properly. Just make sure she gets that shit in her lungs and she should be good.
CJBHM52
09-27-2006, 04:07 AM
first time i smoked i didnt get high. that was from a pipe. then i smoked out of a gravity bong (made out of a gallon of milk) and i got way high. then i smoked the pipe again and didnt get high. i dont know what it is, but like the first dude said, probably not inhaling right. but id give her the bong. just not too much. good luck
cygnustaxt
09-27-2006, 04:15 AM
people always seem to have a hard time mastering the pipe in the very beginning. Something about the carb i guess.
I myself got fucking blazed my first time. I had been smoking cigarettes for a little while though, so i knew how to inhale. I'll always remember the first time because as soon as we finished smoking, we walked into his kitchen and he handed me a bag of doritos and was like "dude, taste these" and i fucking ate the whole bag. First time ever experiencing the munchies = amazing.
i think the reason first timers don't get high has to do with the receptors in the brain aren't used to thc. now i'm no expert on this but I didn't get high until I smoked about 5 times and I was inhaling properly. if you wanna get a first timer high smoke the best bud you can get and smoke enough of it. or just smoke a shitload of mids.
led.zeppelin
09-27-2006, 04:36 AM
99.9% of the time its the inhaling, they suck the joint instead of inhaling it. Most are reluctant becuase of the burning sensation. an easier way is to suck up a fairly large amount, open your mouth a tiny bit and take a deep breath of air and hold it
birdgirl73
09-27-2006, 04:41 AM
Cas got the reason right. Some people's cannabinoid receptors have to be awakened. And some are downright resistant to it. This resistance happens with other drugs, too. It often takes several exposures to weed before some people will start to feel its effects.
Kokujin X
09-27-2006, 04:43 AM
I HATE it when people have trouble inhaling. It's annoying because it's ridiculous how many people don't understand what "just inhale" means. How else do you explain how to do it?
I remember my first time smoking, I got blazed. I had experience with cigarettes perviously so I knew how to smoke. I think thats part of the reason. But still, for thoes with troubles inhaleing, just breathe it in like it's air, thats the best I can help.
IllusionalFate
09-27-2006, 09:35 AM
I agree with the "cannabinoid receptors have to be awakened" theory, but there are two options that I believe may increase the risk of getting high the first time consuming cannabis.
1.) Eat it, don't smoke it
2.) If you do smoke it, smoke A LOT. Just have them take as many rips as possible until they're lungs are burning up to an almost unbearable degree. That, I think, would get just about anyone high their first try.
rachel25
09-27-2006, 10:11 AM
First smoke i had was great, wish it still had the same effect now. Me and my best friend led on her bed for 4 hrs laughing our tits off at nothing in particular. First bong was bad though and it was the last, didn't have a clue, put my lips OVER the bong which all my mates still take the piss for then had a major whitey. Been smoking 7years and still havn't done it again. Anyway hope she enjoys it. Have fun lol xx
Acouwaila
09-27-2006, 03:11 PM
First time I smoked I didn't FEEL high but I was laughing at fucking everything. It was quite weird.
I agree with the "not feeling used to thc" thing.... It took me awhile actually to get used to feeling high. but now im good
turquoise70
09-27-2006, 03:25 PM
Yeah, I didn't get high till after like 4 or 5 times either. For me it didn't feel like an inhalation problem, but it could've been I guess.
Here's my piece of advice: Get her in the right attitude man! See, my first time, I wouldn't shut up about "Oh, I'm not high man. I'm not feeling it." So much of the enjoyment you get from your high (Well, mine anyway) comes from your attitude. An attitude that says "I'm fuggin stoned man" is going to help you feel way more high than "Man this blows. I don't feel it."
I remember one time I'd been puffing all evening and I was getting frustrated cause my evening was turning out shitty, and I said "Man this isn't working. I feel like crap" And my high felt like it went away instantly. It didn't, but like I said. Behold the power of suggestion. My two cents.
the yeag
09-27-2006, 03:28 PM
ha ha ha ha ha...oh my god!!!!!! my puss* hurts
BigMexiCANT
09-28-2006, 12:43 AM
the first time i ever smoked i got hiiiiggh as fuck! me and my cuz were blazing and he kept telling me to hold it in as long as you can. After about 7 or 8 hits i was like i dont like this shit here u can have it and then i just started uncontrolably laughing at everything and couldnt even remember my name. The best experience ive ever had in my whole life. Just make sure they inhale it all the way in their lungs and hold that shit as long as you can and hopefully theyll be ripped!
silverspring07
09-28-2006, 02:05 AM
the first few times i smoked i didnt get high --the fourth time i smoked from a bong and that was the first time i felt any effects, though nothing compared to what it was like when i finally learned how to inhale right. i rarely smoke cigs, so the first time i smoked weed i remember it seeming really harsh and i coughed a lot. anyway, hope she has a good first experience.
AlwaysBlazed
09-28-2006, 02:31 AM
This thread..... IS MINDBLOWING!!!!!
Dutch Masta
09-28-2006, 03:22 AM
Usually because you dont inhale right. It takes a few times to understand how to inhale, and a while to fully understand how to properly inhale efficiently.
Delta9 UK
09-28-2006, 11:18 AM
I was utterly blazed my first time smoking Hash joints.
Loved every minute since :)
Acouwaila
09-29-2006, 05:34 PM
use a hookah or make a gravity bong...they FORCE u to inhale = )
funfubarman
09-30-2006, 01:24 AM
Smoked some Hawian dank my first time out of a one hitter and felt nothing. I agree that it has some thing to do with people's brains not knowing what to do with all of the thc b/c the first time i vaped i did not get high.
.nina.
10-07-2006, 05:51 PM
Ya, the first time I tried weed, I didn't get high. I'm pretty sure it was because I wasn't inhaling it right. Make sure to inhale it into your lungs, not just your mouth. I find it helps to, before exhaling the smoke, inhale a bit of normal air, to make sure the hit you just took gets into your lungs. It's hard to explain lol But after a few tries, you get the hang of it!
niclaure
10-07-2006, 11:52 PM
definitely have to inhale it right. have your friend hit a bong and make sure she clears it... then you know she inhaled. and make sure she smokes a lot.
smoke it
10-08-2006, 03:27 AM
i smoked cigs for about 6 months before i smoked weed, so i knew how to inhale the right way
my first time i was like, am i high?... no, wait yes, maybe (hits the bong) i might be, (looks at hands and starts laughing) ya im fucked up!!
MastaChronic
10-08-2006, 08:27 AM
the first time i smoked weed i was all alone in my dads room(he had just killed himself) i knew where he put his weed and pipe, and had seen him do it enough times to know how to work the carb. i took a hit, held it in, and didnt feel shit so i took another, then another and another, i smoked a whole bowl to my head and dint feel anything. then about a half an hour later i start to feel really funny and when my mom came home and opened the door and saw my dad just layin on the floor she asked me what ahppened and i just started bustin up laughin. i smoked what i know now today to be creeper weed.
someuser
10-08-2006, 09:37 AM
So your dad was still in the room dead as you were getting toasted? Were you there when he actually did it? Sorry about the morbid curiosity.
MastaChronic
10-08-2006, 10:19 AM
he was in the living room, i saw him when i came home from schools, towels arranged in a circle around him, on the table i found a note saying "clean the mess up before your mom and sister get home, dont touch the gun" that satisfy your morbid curiousity?
someuser
10-08-2006, 12:55 PM
he was in the living room, i saw him when i came home from schools, towels arranged in a circle around him, on the table i found a note saying "clean the mess up before your mom and sister get home, dont touch the gun" that satisfy your morbid curiousity?
That is pretty intense man. My morbid curiosity is never satisfied but I dont want to push it any further then I have.
passmethebigofatty
10-08-2006, 05:06 PM
smoke out of a lung. theres no way that they can have inhaling issues because the weed has already been smoked all you have to do is inhale that thick smoke. if you dont know how to make a lung its hella easy and do a google search. oh by the way they are freee!
S i k
10-09-2006, 12:17 AM
i think its cus first timers dont know what being high is like, so they have no idea how to know if they are high or not unless its intense enough, they prolly wont recognize it
Bob the Awesome
10-09-2006, 05:34 AM
OK, thanks for all the responses. Here's our plan so far:
1) I'm gonna let her take a few hits off a bowl a week or two beforehand, as would go along with the THC-receptors theory people mentioned.
2) I'm going to buy some high quality hydro (Imported from Cali, $25/Gram), and she's expressed an interest in starting with a bong. I'm gonna make sure she'll take a huge rip the first time, then we'll smoke a joint as I'm sure one hit of hydro from a bong is really gonna hit a newcomer hard <<
And I think that'll work. Thanks for all the responses.
sxyrider39
10-10-2006, 04:24 AM
I think it's because first timers can't hold it for shit. I remember the first time I did it with my friend. The smoke felt like it burnt SOO bad I couldn't even hold it. The next time, I held it in a lot longer at got really wasted. Now, when I hit anything strong, I can hold one huge hit for like a minute and get high off of one hit. Then I have like 2-4 more hits to get wasted as fuck on.
I've also stopped caughing completely, and it seems like I get way more high that way. my lungs burn for like 10 minutes after I'm done smoking as my high gets stronger and stronger.
So, tell them to hold it in for a while, and don't let them cough.
Bob the Awesome
10-10-2006, 04:35 PM
We're both in the marching band at our school, and since I overestimated and took what my friends said "Was [sic] the biggest hit they've ever seen for a first timer," I'm gonna make sure she purposely makes the same mistake I did << I coughed myself to death but man my first high was awesome! :thumbsup:
i think the reason first timers don't get high has to do with the receptors in the brain aren't used to thc. now i'm no expert on this but I didn't get high until I smoked about 5 times and I was inhaling properly. if you wanna get a first timer high smoke the best bud you can get and smoke enough of it. or just smoke a shitload of mids.
The receptors are there naturally so that impies the use of them thus making them used to what ever neurotransmiter smoking bud releases. I personally think that the reason people dont get high their first time is because who they are smoking with is un willing to pony up a good enough amount of weed because they think that they will need just a little cuz its their first time. I would make the person smoke untill they are to dumb to light the correct side of the bowl.
B u M b L ee K y
10-10-2006, 06:00 PM
You have to inhale with your lungs. That's the biggest problem people face when they can't get high their first time or several times after. They usually inhale with their stomach muscles and no air actually enters the lungs. Best way to describe how to inhale is think of a straw. Inhale as if you were sucking something deep and it doesn't hurt to open your mouth and suck in even more air after the fact you already took a hit to make sure it really gets into your lungs. All that excess smoke floating around in your mouth and various locations is crucial.
what are you talking about man. How do you inhale with anything other than your mouth? Your stomach muscles are what you breath with also known as your diaphram that make it possible for your lungs to take out the oxygen from the air by forcing air in and out of your lungs. Inhaling is not hard and anyone who cant should be baned because the chance that they will be a useless pice of shit after they learn to smoke bud is far to high.
We're both in the marching band at our school, and since I overestimated and took what my friends said "Was [sic] the biggest hit they've ever seen for a first timer," I'm gonna make sure she purposely makes the same mistake I did << I coughed myself to death but man my first high was awesome! :thumbsup:
LOL i used to play the trombone, so my lung capacity is probably better then most peoples. ive only been smokin for like 4 months but i can take bigger rips and hold longer than most of my friends.
Bob the Awesome
10-13-2006, 04:33 AM
Yea, it definitely helps ^^
Anyways, I had her take 5 hits off a bowl, 2 were failures, 1 was kind of weak, she got a good hit after that and the last hit she took, would even be a major hit for me << It was only mids, but she said she felt spacy and experienced cotton mouth, and had some memory issues.
So she experienced something, so we're good to go for later this month ^^ Thanks for all the advice people. :thumbsup:
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