How could I get some oxycontin? (please read, in a lot of pain)

[mrdevious]

Or any opiates really, but Vicodin is illegal here in Canada and I don't know what else there is. (read last paragraph if you don't want a back-story).

To the point, I desperately want some. My spinal health seems to be deteriorating, my physical pain has been getting worse and worse over the last few days, and I just can't deal with it anymore. My family doctor works at a clinic with a sign on the door clearly saying "We do not give narcotic prescriptions", and sure enough I asked and they can't. I went to another doctor, some new guy in town, and the asshole decides it's all in my head and gives me anti-depressants (I have 3 specific injuries leading to these problems). Plus, there's a doctor shortage in this country so other docs won't accept new patients who already have a family doctor:mad: .

I don't have any painkillers that work. Cannabis, ibeprophen, and celebrix all are actually making the pain worse when I take them ( and I've quite all of them, I'm going to try weed again this christmas, so a 3 month break). The only thing they all have in common is being anti-inflammatories, so I don't know what the deal is there. Accetaminiphen doesn't work AT ALL, nor does Robax (formeraly Robaxacet), and flexeril did nothing for the pain or spasms, but it certainly made me feel sedated, grouchy, and foggy-headed.

The only pain killer I've had some degree of success with is Tramacet. Thing is, the Maximum recommended dose is 75 mg tramadol (active ingredient), and it takes 150mg just to get some half-assed relief from it. I can't take anymore because I'm already ingesting 1,300 mg accetaminophen (sp?) with the 4 tablets I take for the 150mg tramadol.

So any idea on how I could get some oxycontin? anything I should say to a doctor? I'll buy it off dealers if that's my only option, but I don't know how I would find a hook-up. Plus if there's a way to get opium poppies I'm up for that too, and I'll gladly get some morphine if I can find any. I also read on Wikipedia that Heroin is actually weaker than strait morphine, so would heroin be anymore dangerous just for pain relief? I'm not talking every day, just to have 2 days of relief per week. Are there any opiate substances I haven't considered, maybe found in some legal substance? any really powerfull-ass pain relievers I haven't considered, legal or illegal?

absolutely any recommendations appreciated. thanks.

[phytokind]

First just chill a bit. You really don't want to try heroin, so just try to forget about that. Second, you could contact a lawyer or some gevernment official and see if they can help you, as your doctors may be mistreating you. An extreme option is to go somewhere like Mexico where many drugs can be gotten without a prescription.

[fikusroot]

What about NOS?

[led.zeppelin]

The heroin things not such a good idea, the comedown would make your pain worse, and chances are you might pick up a habit from taking it 2 times a week. If i were you I might write a letter to a local news paper or something talking about how the lack of doctors has made you take more crude methods such as considering hard drugs. If i could do it man, i would send you some morphine and vicodin. they give it out like candy where i am

[mrdevious]

What about NOS?

What's NOS?

and sorry phytokind, but I'm in British Columbia and not exactly rolling in piles of money right now.

Now if they give out Vicodin's like candy in Australia, could I order them from there somehow?

and I guess I won't use heroin if it makes the pain worse on the comedown. and that's a last resort, I know there's a lot of stigma attached to it.

EDIT: oh yeah, and that's not a bad idea about the paper Ledzeppelin, but I probably shouldn't declare to the whole town "hey everybody, I'm lookin' for some smack!" lol.

[fikusroot]

NOS is nitrous Oxide. It's what they give you at dentist offices. It think it is a mild anasteic. It's also a mild psychadelic. Look it up on erowid.com

[mrdevious]

NOS is nitrous Oxide. It's what they give you at dentist offices. It think it is a mild anasteic. It's also a mild psychadelic. Look it up on erowid.com


yeah, but I'm not looking to be knocked unconcious as a means of relief, otherwise I might as well hit some special K. Plus I think you mean mild analgesic, not "anasteic" ("anasthetic?"). But I'll take a quick look, thanks for that info.

I really wish Erowid just had an "analgesics" section.

[phytokind]

Maybe you could just go to the US border and get a prescription? Doctors here seem to be relatively liberal with painkillers.

[led.zeppelin]

Uh sorry mr devious im not in australia, clos guess though, im in new zealand. Theres some sites you can order prescription drugs off. il try find you the link
Where in Nz are you from unitedwefall?, I myself am from Auckland

[phytokind]

Oh wait I just remembered the legal herbal opiate, it's called Kratom, try iamshaman.com and kratomplants.com

[led.zeppelin]

Have you tried Kratom?, from what Ive heard its pretty pathetic, I dont touch most legal stuff, aside from salvia

[phytokind]

Have you tried Kratom?, from what Ive heard its pretty pathetic, I dont touch most legal stuff, aside from salvia

I haven't tried any, just read that it is indeed an opiate, but much safer than poppy-based opiates. I'd say it's worth a try.

[BobBong]

Two words.

Second Opinion.

You're in a lot of pain...and you're in Canada.. take advantage of the health care system that is there for you.. and go see another doctor about your pain.

Don't get this stuff off the street or online.. as many of us will know that it is impossible to tell where any of that stuff comes from and could very well be something that it's not.

I wish you luck in your medical problems.. but also remind you that this kind of talk about other psychotropics and opiates is not really welcome here...so the only reason it is allowed to stay is for your specfic medicinal information. Any posts to do with the recreational uses of things of this nature will be removed.

Cheers,
Bob.

[AlwaysBlazed]

I popped a few oxycodene (like oxycotin) last night and I can understand how you want them but they're too addicting I think to be used as just everyday painkillers.

[mrdevious]

Don't get this stuff off the street or online.. as many of us will know that it is impossible to tell where any of that stuff comes from and could very well be something that it's not.

I wish you luck in your medical problems.. but also remind you that this kind of talk about other psychotropics and opiates is not really welcome here...so the only reason it is allowed to stay is for your specfic medicinal information. Any posts to do with the recreational uses of things of this nature will be removed.

Cheers,
Bob.

sorry bobong, I didn't realize psychotropic substance discussion was disallowed in a medical context. But thanks for letting it stay open. And for the record, I'm not at all talking about using substances for recreation or fun, I just genuinly want some real pain relief. I just had 4 ibeprophen (which seem to work now, so I guess I jumped to conclusions from a couple bad experiences with that), plus 3 tramacet and it's just managable enough now. I think that constitutes oxycontin being viewed in this situation as a strictly medical-use drug, though I'll definately cut out the heroin talk (which, now that I think of it, I'm just not going to fall into)


Second Opinion.

You're in a lot of pain...and you're in Canada.. take advantage of the health care system that is there for you.. and go see another doctor about your pain.

I agree, but I have to be removed as my doctors patient to get a new one, I hope they let you do that on our free medical system (free for doctors visits anyway).

anyway, thanks to everybody for the advice, and any other painkillers you know of are always whelcome. I've actually read up on Kratom lettuce a good deal, but it seems the erowid experience reports indicate that it doesn't work over half the time.

[robert42]

what about codiene??

[mrdevious]

what about codiene??

Codiene's only half as powerfull as Tramadol actually. But whatever, my doc just got me on this stuff called "nortryptaline" that's supposed to significantly raise my pain threshhold by "dulling" the pain centres in my brain. So I'll see how that goes, takes a couple weeks before it starts to work significantly.

[Mr.Staypuffed]

How about using a 'TENS' machine I had one for a while when I had a back problem and it did actually help - combine that with whatever meds thay are giving you and it might take the edge off.

[mrdevious]

How about using a 'TENS' machine I had one for a while when I had a back problem and it did actually help - combine that with whatever meds thay are giving you and it might take the edge off.

I have on actually. Ever heard of a "Dr.Ho"? I've used it, but it doesn't help a lot these days since the pain is all over the place.


Unrelated, but why the depressed mood Mr.Staypuffed?

[Mr.Staypuffed]

No smoke in the whole country by the look of it - I have been smoking over 20 years and it is the worst i have known it - am dying for a joint!
May be I'll cheer up when I find one!!

[Purple Banana]

What about seeing a pain management specialist? Accupuncture? Hypnosis?

Insurance may/may not cover these things, though. I can understand what you're going through, though- I have chronic agonizing pain, and I've gotten so fed up with idiotic doctors that I just have to deal with it. Accupuncture works pretty well, surprisingly- I'm willing to try anything, and that helped the most.

Best of luck to you, and it sucks being in pain with limited options :\

[Uberdave73]

Just get a marijuana patient card.

The opiate junk in your system is far more damaging.

[mrdevious]

Just get a marijuana patient card.

The opiate junk in your system is far more damaging.

Normally I would, but as I stated above cannabis doesn't help that much anymore, and makes the pain worse when I consume too much. Regardless, my doctor flat out refuses to help me get any narcotic painkillers, but this new stuff nortryptaline seems to be working already (which is surprising).

plus I"m already scheduled to see the rhuematologist and neurologist (FINALLY!). Accupuncture worked great for a while, but then its effectiveness started to wear off and the sessions got painfull. Anywhoo, I seem to be getting the pain under control now, as I tend to go through a spurt of several weeks of agony, then get a few weeks of only moderate pain. I think this Nortryptaline is really going to work since I'm already seeing mild results, and the doc said it would take about 1-2 weeks for full results.

Thanks to everybody for listening though :). I'll be happy to try to help you all out with your problems too.

[aceofangels]

Dont, my father got addicted to these and gambling. Before we knew it, he gambled away all our money, took out a second mortage on our house, and just bought oxycotin with it. He stole our college funds and gambled and bought oxycotin with it. He also committed ID theft on my father, his parents and his brother. His parents are utterly denying everything and blaming us for it (their grandchildren) We are now almost homeless in the process of moving and he just gets to sit at home with his parents comfortabley.

Just this week my other grandmother died, and the daughter she was living with (not my mother) spent all of the inheratance money that my mother was supposed to get.

We are in the process of legal matters. I just am to afraid of this stuff. Our family lost pretty much everything partly because of it, just try something else.

[DragonForce1]

Am i just blazed as hell right now or did you say your dad got addicted to oxycotin and then comitted ID theft on himself?

"Dont, my father got addicted to these and gambling...He also committed ID theft on my father, his parents..."


Huh????:confused: :confused: :confused: