Gold9472
09-21-2006, 01:50 AM
How's everyone doing tonight?
AlwaysBlazed
09-21-2006, 01:50 AM
Good, im really body stoned right now, it's nice.
Gold9472
09-21-2006, 01:51 AM
I know this will seem like a "spam", but really, it's not... if you have any questions, please email me at
[email protected].
A new movie has come out that I would request everyone watch.
It's called, "9/11: Press For Truth."
It's about the "Jersey Girls", and the cover-up surrounding 9/11.
It's available for free here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083
After you're done watching it, please pass it on to everyone you love.
Thank You.
Jon Gold
Gold9472
09-21-2006, 01:53 AM
Good, im really body stoned right now, it's nice.
That's nice. Just to show you this isn't a spam...
This letter was sent to every elected official in the United States (that I could get an email address for)... It was written mostly by Uber Commandante, but the Cancer research was written by me... It's a very educational letter...
Dear Representative,
First of all, I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this rather lengthy email. I hope that it helps to educate, and motivate you to do what is right. Too many people are suffering when they don't have to, and the current administration is making every effort to arrest people that are just trying to get by.
My reasoning for this email stems from the fact that my grandfather, ***** ****, passed away 3 years ago from Pancreatic Cancer. Just recently, I found that In 1974 researchers at the Medical College of Virginia, who had been funded by the National Institute of Health to find evidence that marijuana damages the immune system, found instead that THC slowed the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice ?? lung and breast cancer, and a virus-induced leukemia. In February 2000, researchers in Madrid reported in the March issue of "Nature Medicine" that they injected the brains of 45 rats with cancer cells, producing tumors whose presence they confirmed through magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). On the 12th day they injected 15 of the rats with THC and 15 with Win-55,212-2 a synthetic compound similar to THC. "All the rats left untreated uniformly died 12-18 days after glioma (brain cancer) cell inoculation ... Cannabinoid (THC)-treated rats survived significantly longer than control rats. THC administration was ineffective in three rats, which died by days 16-18. Nine of the THC-treated rats surpassed the time of death of untreated rats, and survived up to 19-35 days. Moreover, the tumor was completely eradicated in three of the treated rats." The rats treated with Win-55,212-2 showed similar results.
Knowing this today, I'm infuriated by the fact that my grandfather had to suffer when the possibility existed that he didn't have to.
There are a couple of arguments that I think should be separated; most notably the distinction between industrial hemp and marijuana, which I will tackle first.
The DEA's current arguments for the continued prohibition of industrial hemp are 1) that it contains trace levels of THC, and 2) that it would be impossible to tell the difference between hemp farms and marijuana farms, and therefore, in order to continue the prohibition of marijuana, it is also necessary to outlaw hemp.
It is true that hemp and marijuana are both Cannabis sativa; however the important thing to acknowledge is that they are distinctly different cultivars. For the past 3000 years they have been bred for different purposes: Marijuana has been bred for large flowers, while hemp has been bread for long stalks. Marijuana cultivars need several feet of square feet per plant (when grown outdoors) to ensure enough sunlight for the flowers. Hemp on the other hand, is grown with dozens of plants per square foot. This intensive planting makes the individual plants grow tall and lanky, with few branches, in order to compete for sunlight. In addition, the flowers of a hemp cultivar are nearly non-existent; I have seen both types up close (hemp farm in Nova Scotia, Canada, and various indoor/outdoor marijuana plants), and one cannot mistake hemp for marijuana. This is analogous with saying that the DEA cannot distinguish between a Beagle and a Great Dane, which of course are both Canis familaris.
Another argument is that it would be easy to hide marijuana plants among hemp plants ?? again, because of the plant/square foot requirements this would not be as easy as it may sound. Indeed, you could grow a pot plant in a hemp field, but it would be drastically inferior due to constant struggle for sunlight, nutrients, and water. As it is, people are currently hiding pot plants in corn fields.
As to the THC argument, the weakest marijuana strain contains ~ 3% THC, while the average hemp plant contains ~.05% THC. Its true, hemp contains trace THC, but it is not true that you can get ??high?? from it. There are inexpensive tests to ensure this.
What is VERY interesting, is the origin of hemp/marijuana prohibition. Prior to 1937 neither cultivar was illegal, but the marijuana tax act of 1937 made ALL variations of Cannabis Sativa to expensive to grow (though not technically illegal ?? that would follow later after an onslaught of racists newspaper reports, and outright lies perpetrated by lumber and newspaper baron William Randolph Hearst and the US Commissioner of Narcotics, Harry J. Anslinger).
Oddly enough, 1937 was also the year that George Schlichten patented his ??decorticating machine?? which was the first machine to efficiently separate the hemp fiber from the stalk; an advance that prompted the February 1938 issue of ??Popular Mechanics?? to declare hemp the ??First Billion Dollar Industry, due to its ability to compete with the petrochemical and lumber industries for the manufacturing of textiles, fuel, and treeless paper. Ironically, although the issue was written prior to the act, it was not published until several months after the act was in place. I have attached a scan of the article, and in the web sites listed below you can read of many of the environmental aspects of this crop.
Personally speaking, given that alcohol and cigarettes are legal, I feel that this is the true reason for the prohibition of Cannabis Sativa. Unfortunately, I can??t say that I believe this was the first or last time industrial lobbyists have affected political change for their benefit.
As this letter is already more lengthy then I intended, I will try to keep my arguments for the legalization of marijuana short.
Suffice it to say that, medicinally, thousands of people around the world have offered experiential evidence that it works to alleviate their suffering. In fact, THC is proven to reduce swelling in glaucoma patients, reduce nausea in chemotherapy and AIDS patients allowing them to eat, and to decrease the chronic pain that many people suffer with daily for a number of reasons. I will not judge them. If it works for them, and it is not hurting anyone, then what is the harm? One of the most common arguments is as follows:
??Everyone knows that like cigarettes, combustion of the lungs, no matter what is being smoked, greatly increases the risk of lung cancer. Since marijuana smoke is thicker than cigarette smoke, the chances of getting lung cancer or brain damage is a serious risk, not to be taken lightly?.
This may be true, but it doesn??t acknowledge alternative ways of consuming marijuana via orally or through a device known as a ??vaporizer??. A vaporizer will heat the plant material to 400 degrees Fahrenheit; not hot enough to combust the dried flower, but enough to turn the THC resin into a gas and then run through a cooling mechanism to be inhaled.
I am not an advocate of a national pot smoking orgy ?? but neither am I an advocate of legislation that depends on obfuscation and logical chicanery to make its arguments. In the trial of Ed Rosenthal, a man who was deputized and hired by the city of Oakland to grow medicinal marijuana, the judge refused to let the jury know that this was the case. They were only allowed to know that he was a man growing a lot of pot. That was it. He was convicted, and after the conviction when the jury was informed by the media of who he was, the jury came forward as a whole and publicly apologized to Rosenthal. Fortunately, a fair-minded California judge who criticized the federal government for interfering with a law that was passed with the majority of voters on a ballot initiative only sentenced Rosenthal to time served: one day. Enter Ed Rosenthal in any search engine for the full story.
These are the types of ??strategies??, as well as the DEA hemp arguments above, that start the alarm bells ringing in one??s head. If the federal government??s stance was based on reason then the Truth could stand on its own. But since it is NOT based on reason, then they must use alternative means to twist the arguments.
The last point I would like to make is the notion that pot makes you lazy. I would like to remind you that we live in a nation where the average American watches 8 hours of television every day!! If sitting on a couch staring at a TV doesn??t make one lazy, then I don??t know what does. As well, I am familiar with many well-educated, motivated, intelligent, creative, and family-oriented individuals who make marijuana one aspect of their lives; Business owners, artists, salespeople, social workers, etc. They are not drop-outs, they are not 30 or 40 year olds with the brain of a 5 year old (despite sometimes decades of smoking) and they are definitely NOT lazy.
I have no doubt that there are people who abuse marijuana. But I cannot see that alone as a reason to prohibit it for all. If the abuse of something by some were the ONLY criteria for prohibition, there really would not be much out there that was legal.
If any of these arguments pique your interest in the topic, I have included a short resource list.
RESOURCE LIST:
"The Emperor Wears No Clothes" - Jack Herer. This is a fully documented book regarding the origins of marijuana/hemp illegality. It also takes the unusual step of adding photocopies of actual documents regarding this issue, so that you don't have to look elsewhere for the footnote sources (although you can if you like)
Web sites:
HEMP
? http://www.hempcar.org
? http://www.naihc.org/ (North American Industrial Hemp Council)
MEDICINAL MARIJUANA
? http://www.mpp.org/medicine.html
GENERAL
? www.mpp.org (marijuana policy project ?? where you can read White House commissioned reports recommending the decriminalization of marijuana)
? www.norml.com
? www.cannabisculture.com
I hope that these arguments shed some more light on a topic that has spent too many decades stuffed in a closet in order to line the pockets of the few.
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
President Abraham Lincoln (1809-65), U.S. President.
Speech, 18 Dec. 1840, to Illinois House of Representatives
"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed. Nowhere is this more clear to me than in the laws against possession of marihuana in private for personal use. . . . Therefore, I support legislation amending Federal law to eliminate all Federal criminal penalties for the possession of up to one ounce of marihuana."
President Jimmy Carter
Speech delivered to Congress August 2nd, 1977
Sincerely,
Gold9472
napolitana869
09-21-2006, 01:57 AM
That sir, has too many words in it.
4gan2ja0
09-21-2006, 02:17 AM
That sir, has too many words in it.
yeah true dat, i didnt even bother trying to read it, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.
Gold9472
09-21-2006, 02:23 AM
Sorry... Basically, it tells what's wrong with the Government's argument regarding the legality of marijuana, and medicinal marijuana.
potsmokingnome
09-21-2006, 02:23 AM
Yeah lengthy posts are hard to get into when I'm this freaking stoned! I'm on my 4 th bowl from my bong, and I'm ripped..time to munch on sour cherry cola candies! got a whole box of them from the wholesale store :)
napolitana869
09-21-2006, 02:29 AM
youre preaching to the choir
zephyrinne
09-21-2006, 03:18 AM
I'm great.. except that I have a 300 page book that has to be read by tomorrow.. and I'm on page 60. Yep. Doing great.
Would be even nicer if I lit up a bowl right now... but no... must. restrain. self. Gotta read.. can't concentrate while I'm high. Boo.
Oh yeah.. if you care about the upcoming elections, and even the ones in '08, might want to send a letter similar to what Gold posted. (Even though it probably won't get read, damn politicians), it's still good to show representatives there are people out there who strongly support marijuana legalization, or at least decriminalization. In 20 years time.. who knows what will happen. :)
MaryJaneScott
09-21-2006, 03:28 AM
Yeah lengthy posts are hard to get into when I'm this freaking stoned! I'm on my 4 th bowl from my bong, and I'm ripped..time to munch on sour cherry cola candies! got a whole box of them from the wholesale store :)
green frogs are better and you KNOW it buster!! :p
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