scientist making black hole and mini big bangs...

[dryst]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=325&objectid=10400645


great...they say the chance of destroying the world is relatively low...thx alot asshole!:thumbsup:

[herbollah]

holy shit!!!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oneironaut]

Meh. Back when they tested the first nuke scientists weren't yet sure that it wouldn't set the entire planet's atmosphere on fire.

[souldistortion]

son of a bitch. there they go messing with dimentions now... psh. we're all dead for sure

[dryst]

theyl open it and some fuckin tenacle like monster with telepathic power will be sucked through making the entire world its slave! :p

[souldistortion]

"The Large Hadron Collider - a 27km-long circular particle accelerator at the CERN experimental facility near Geneva, will smash protons into one another at unimaginable speeds trying to replicate in miniature the events of the Big Bang.

If the theories are correct, the machine will create tiny black holes that evaporate and possibly even find particles that offer evidence that the three dimensions known to mankind are just a fraction of those that exist.

"For the first time in many decades we have built a machine that exceeds our powers of prediction.

Dr Cox dismissed worries that by adventuring into the unknown and creating tiny black holes, the machine could even destroy the planet."



i dont know about you guys, but this article is tripping me the fuck out.

[dryst]

look at the very it end it says they predict it destroying the world are relatively small....very comforting huh?

curiousity killed that cat....or in this case earth...

[BobBong]

"The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000."


So you're telling me there's a chance..."


All right!!

[souldistortion]

"The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000."




All right!!

now i feel safe

[dryst]

ud whole heartedly trust mathematics never put to the test, equasions that have no way of being checked by trial and error?...

[OrangeKush]

"The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000."




All right!!

HAHA. Good one bob....thats got to be one of my favorite movies. Jim Carrey is a crazy ass actor. :thumbsup:

[BobBong]

ud whole heartedly trust mathematics never put to the test, equasions that have no way of being checked by trial and error?...

Isn't that the purpose of trial and error ? To test ?

This is a test.. if you consider it's underground and preformed by the top scientists in the world.. i think the test is about as safe as it'll be.. i just hope the error isn't that big.

[souldistortion]

im by no means scared. but its just, when the wolrds top nerds start fucking around with other dimentions, you know some shits gonna go down

[dryst]

right but trial and error in this case could result in mis calculation...or even worse...the end of the world?

[dryst]

were talkin about black holes...were not just talkin about a portal to a different place or dimesion or w/e....were potentially fuckin with the time line itself...

[BobBong]

im by no means scared. but its just, when the wolrds top nerds start fucking around with other dimentions, you know some shits gonna go down

No reason to fear when we've got someone who can fix a broken radiator hanging off the roof of a volvo with no brakes (going down a hill at 50mph) with nothing but some gum, a newspaper and a thimble.

We love you Macgyver!

[souldistortion]

the list of things that these guys are "potentinally fucking with" is VERY LARGE. think about what they're doing...

EDIT: haha Macgyver

[dryst]

alright alright...lets say theyre right...all theyre math adds up and they sucessfully open a portal to another dimesion....what if something pops out of that fucker that we cant handle...u think that fit into their equasions?

[BobBong]

were talkin about black holes...were not just talkin about a portal to a different place or dimesion or w/e....were potentially fuckin with the time line itself...


It is a theory that black holes consume time...a very out to lunch theory.

Check out Steven Hawking's Universe (A PBS special)... you won't be disappointed.

[dryst]

^ ^ u missed my post above urs

[souldistortion]

It is a theory that black holes consume time...a very out to lunch theory.

Check out Steven Hawking's Universe (A PBS special)... you won't be disappointed.

ok, so these guys open and close a bunch of black holes. if black holes consume all matter, light and even TIME. (how can you consume time?) then some SHIT... is going down

[BobBong]

^ ^ u missed my post above urs

No i didn't... what are the honest chances of something like that happening anyway. Do you not think they'll take even that tiny tiny remote chance into consideration when they do the test? I think they'd be more concerned on actually accomplishing something of this magnitude...

quite honestly i think people are to caught up on the hollywood depiction of space,time and the universe.. when in reality.. it's nothing like that.

[BobBong]

ok, so these guys open and close a bunch of black holes. if black holes consume all matter, light and even TIME. (how can you consume time?) then some SHIT... is going down

Assuming they "open a black hole"

[dryst]

quite honestly i think people are to caught up on the hollywood depiction of space,time and the universe.. when in reality.. it's nothing like that.

then enlighten me...

[souldistortion]

then enlighten me...

me as well!

[BobBong]

enlighten yourself! :P

I'm simply saying non of this can be proved until it's actually attempted and until you attempt it you won't know.. It's kinda like space travel in a sense they didn't know if little green men were going to be waiting just out of orbit or not...and when we finally got there.. we were amazed to find... Nothing!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7052861094451788348

found that video, haven't watched it but it seems like it's interesting as they use the dude from Jurrasic Park to host it ... haha..

Happy Black Hole Hunting,

Bob.

[benagain]

No i didn't... what are the honest chances of something like that happening anyway. Do you not think they'll take even that tiny tiny remote chance into consideration when they do the test? I think they'd be more concerned on actually accomplishing something of this magnitude...

quite honestly i think people are to caught up on the hollywood depiction of space,time and the universe.. when in reality.. it's nothing like that.

I've gotta agree. The guys doing these tests have more knowledge about space and physics than all of us here will all have combined. They're not gonna open up another demension. That isn't what a black hole is. Best of luck to 'em. Maybe it'll take us a step closer to understanding the true meaning of life.

[dryst]

ud give them the ok to potentially end the world just to feed their curiousity...i mean is opening a black hole gonna actually do anything for us?...is it gonna cure world hunger or promote world peace....best question yet...is it gonna legalize cannabis?...didnt think so :D

[BobBong]

I've gotta agree. The guys doing these tests have more knowledge about space and physics than all of us here will all have combined. They're not gonna open up another demension. That isn't what a black hole is. Best of luck to 'em. Maybe it'll take us a step closer to understanding the true meaning of life.

Exactly.. this only brings us closer to understand where life and our.. well.. where WE come from...

As we all know.. that is still to be proven.


ud give them the ok to potentially end the world just to feed their curiousity...i mean is opening a black hole gonna actually do anything for us?...is it gonna cure world hunger or promote world peace....best question yet...is it gonna legalize cannabis?...didnt think so :D

That's right.. it's called science.

[dryst]

curiousity killed the cat :D

[BobBong]

curiousity killed the cat :D

At least the cat died doing what it loves.. free..and exploring... not trapped inside the house fed the same food day in, day out and dying an old depressed animal with no understanding of what's around it.

I'd rather die finding out.. than live never knowing.

[souldistortion]

ud give them the ok to potentially end the world just to feed their curiousity...i mean is opening a black hole gonna actually do anything for us?...is it gonna cure world hunger or promote world peace....best question yet...is it gonna legalize cannabis?...didnt think so :D

no more saying they're going to blow up the world. because in all actuallity you and i both know we are in no danger at all. But it seems to anger bob that you and i both have an immature hollywood view of space and science ahah. so be more realistic, otherwise bob will take you seriously and tell you why there is no reason these guys shouldnt be fucking with other dimmentions haha

[BobBong]

Anger me? LoL you read to much into this. I could've sworn we were actually having a conversation.. but no.. apparently i'm just getting angry at you now.

:confused:

[dryst]

bob can get angry?...hmm...i dunno...nothin a little herb cant fix... **passes the J**

[souldistortion]

whether it angered you or not, you still insulted the both of us. we're just tossing around ideas and you tell us we have a Hollywood view of space and such. I see any and all attempts to expand the knowledge of the human race as good things. And while i feel perfectly safe in their research, they are doing something no one has ever done before. and my far fetched contemplations sprouted from initial amazement. haha i hadn't read the full article. then you showed me the statistic and i was like oh

[dryst]

did u just edit ur post cause it wasnt like that until i refreshed...

[souldistortion]

what the fuck just happened to my post? :confused:

[BobBong]

whether it angered you or not, you still insulted the both of us. we're just tossing around ideas and you tell us we have a Hollywood view of space and such. I see any and all attempts to expand the knowledge of the human race as good things. And while i feel perfectly safe in their research, they are doing something no one has ever done before. and my far fetched contemplations sprouted from initial amazement. haha i hadn't read the full article. then you showed me the statistic and i was like oh

I in no way singled out you or dryst.. you seem to have done that for me.

[benagain]

Well you have to think of it like this. Anytime technology and exploration gets a bit ahead os society, everyone freaks out. It's no different than a chemist being called a witch or something a hundred years ago. People have a complex about us 'playing god' when it comes to new ideas, butgive it a hundred years or so and I'm sure everyone will feel much different about it than they do now. Anything new and misunderstood is allways gonna seem out there and dangerous. There' no gaurantees in life, they could very well destry the universe for all I know, but in my opinion the search for knowledge is the the whole reason we're all sitting here on this big blue rock. That and having lots of sex (number 1 reason in my book).

[souldistortion]

I in no way singled out you or dryst.. you seem to have done that for me.

we were the ones you were currently talking to, there is no "singling out" neccessary. you were refering to us nonetheless. but seriously, what the fuck happened to my post haha

[BobBong]

we were the ones you were currently talking to, there is no "singling out" neccessary. you were refering to us nonetheless. but seriously, what the fuck happened to my post haha

Man, that's the way you read it.. but i'm telling you i was in no way specificly talking to you or dryst. and this isn't the same as an open conversation. It's a forum, you're not supposed to read into a post and assume it's aimed directly at you (unless it actually is)

[souldistortion]

Man, that's the way you read it.. but i'm telling you i was in no way specificly talking to you or dryst. and this isn't the same as an open conversation. It's a forum, you're not supposed to read into a post and assume it's aimed directly at you (unless it actually is)

me and dryst were the only 2 coming up with ideas so i guess i assumed you were talking about us? maybe i was wrong? haha. id really like to drop it, its no big deal but it did really offend me at the time

[BobBong]

me and dryst were the only 2 coming up with ideas so i guess i assumed you were talking about us? maybe i was wrong? haha. id really like to drop it, its no big deal but it did really offend me at the time

well, I was generalizing...it would've only offended you if you yourself thought that your concept of the universe is like that of the hollywood image... Sounds to me like you offended yourself..

:stoned:

But getting back on topic... I'm not so sure that time itself could be sucked in by a gravitational pull.. Light, yes.. as it's been proven :)

But ones concept of time.. varies so much.. so how can you officially say until you've tried ?

Thanks for the article dryst, it seems like it's going to be a real blast! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Bob.

[dryst]

maybe not time itself but maybe the earth...altering what we concieve as time?

[souldistortion]

well, I was generalizing...it would've only offended you if you yourself thought that your concept of the universe is like that of the hollywood image... Sounds to me like you offended yourself..

:stoned:

But getting back on topic... I'm not so sure that time itself could be sucked in by a gravitational pull.. Light, yes.. as it's been proven :)

But ones concept of time.. varies so much.. so how can you officially say until you've tried ?

Thanks for the article dryst, it seems like it's going to be a real blast! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Bob.

i hate you bob. oh how i hate you

[dryst]

i hate you bob. oh how i hate you

lol :p

[BobBong]

i hate you bob. oh how i hate you


:error:

To each, his own.

[Psycho4Bud]

We're natural explorers; that besides other things is what seperates us from chimps. At one time hundreds of years ago man took off across the oceans leaving some with the belief that they would be falling off the edge. When we went into space I'm sure that there were some that felt that punching a rocket through the atmosphere would release all our oxygen like putting a hole in a balloon.

Black holes have a direct relationship to quantum physics....something we are now studying and learning to use. Each one of our explorations has brought new discoveries to the table. Imagine what something like this could achieve in relationship to space travel...........http://www.open2.net/science/finalfrontier/space_time/space_05.htm

Here's a little something on black holes and you'll notice that they DO talk of quantum physics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole http://physics.uoregon.edu/~jimbrau/astr122/Notes/Chapter22.html

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[SwirlyMass]

Black holes have a direct relationship to quantum physics....something we are now studying and learning to use. Each one of our explorations has brought new discoveries to the table. Imagine what something like this could achieve in relationship to space travel...........http://www.open2.net/science/finalfrontier/space_time/space_05.htm

Here's a little something on black holes and you'll notice that they DO talk of quantum physics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole http://physics.uoregon.edu/~jimbrau/astr122/Notes/Chapter22.html

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

A black hole in reality is nothing more than concentrated matter, think about matter as a computer program, the bigger the program the longer it will take to thread through the processor and load onto the RAM right? just think about reality and space as the processer because matter interacts with itself quite alot so when you stick a huge piece of matter into a small space the processer gets bogged down and therefore time seems slower from our perspective.

Making mini black holes will do very little to affect us, because the ratio of affected area to the size of the black hole means that the black hole will indeed alter time, but because its so small the area affected will probably only be about the size of a pin head.

The problem i predict is that black holes create a frozen piece of time in the center meaning that once they are created they will not disapear, and so if we go around creating a ton of mini black holes we're bound to lose one of them, and the thing about black holes is they suck, litterally, because of their gravatational mass so all we need is one of these little buggers to come in contact with any free particles and all of a sudden it will start to grow, matter will be sucked toward the center and will never reach the center because time has stopped there but the first particles will get close and it will increase its overall mass and will not stop until the entire world is about the size of a grain of sand.

And no offense but i REALLY dont want to be ripped apart by tidal forces affecting time and space....

So there is a LOT of risk, you can never calculate risk, PERIOD.

[Cas]

:) :) sweet, I think that's the place where they make anti-matter. hopefully they will make some breakthroughs and use them to explore the solar system or gain some insight about our universe. not too long ago they found direct evidence of dark matter. this is kind of exciting :dance:

[orangeman]

I'm not even worried about this. No ones gonna die and nothings gonna happen to the earth :p.