Red Hot Torture

[Torog]

Red Hot Torture

By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com

Thursday, Sep 14, 2006


Thanks to the New York Times, we now know the dreaded torture methods the sadistic CIA used on captured al-Qaeda big shots shortly after the 9/11 attack. I warn you: Reading this column any further will subject you to unvarnished brutality.

According to a front page article in the Times on Sunday, September 10th, Pakistani authorities captured Abu Zubaydah, al-Qaeda's personnel director, a few months after the terror attack five years ago. Zubaydah, wounded in the confrontation, was turned over to American authorities and whisked away to Bangkok, Thailand, where FBI interrogators began questioning him.

According to unnamed sources in the Times article, the FBI and CIA clashed over whether to use soft or tough questioning methods on the captured terrorist. Because it had jurisdiction, the CIA took over, and the inquisition began. Agency interrogators stripped Zubaydah, put him in a freezing room, and subjected him to Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Not the vegetables, the rock group.

Apparently, the CIA sadists cranked up the volume on some Red Hot Chili Peppers recordings and Zubaydah broke. Wouldn't you?

Now, I am not making this up. The dreaded torture machine that is the Bush administration unleashed the Red Hot Chili Peppers on an al-Qaeda big shot. How could they?

According to the article, Zubaydah gave up a number of his fellow killers, including Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11. But come on, the ends do not justify the means. Using the Chili Peppers is beyond the pale.

Somewhere, Attila the Hun is weeping with laughter.

But this whole thing is deadly serious. Thanks to the American thugs at Abu Ghraib and the hysterical left-wing press, the entire world thinks the USA is a nation of brutes who torture for pleasure. Human rights groups can't condemn us fast enough for our terrible treatment of people captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq. Guantanamo Bay is a Gulag, Dick Cheney is Henrich Himmler. And the beat goes on.

But amidst all the hew and cry, there are few specifics. As far as I can determine, waterboardingâ??that is, submerging a suspect in waterâ??was used a couple of times, but is now banned. Stress positions and sleep deprivation have been used in limited situations. And now we know the Peppers were in play.

Of course, in reporting the interrogation story, the Times played up the conflict between the FBI and the CIA big, but buried the lead. In the final two paragraphs of the lengthy report, the importance of the Chili Pepper story emerges. Times reporter David Johnston quotes yet another anonymous "government official" as saying, "The fact of the matter is that Abu Zubaydah was defiant and evasive until the approved procedures were used. He soon began to provide information on key Al Qaeda operators to help us find and capture those responsible for the 9/11 attacks."

That sounds like a good thing to me, but I do have some advice for the CIA the next time around: Use Ludacris, and you'll get bin Laden.

[Hamlet]

O'Reilly? Wasn't he the one who was going to send Fox Security to arrest a caller whos comments he didn't like?

[graymatter]

They should've played Barry Manilow at full volume, anyone would crack under that pressure.

[likemclever]

O'Reilly? Wasn't he the one who was going to send Fox Security to arrest a caller whos comments he didn't like?

What exactly was FOX security going to do to them, repeatedly ask them for their badge until they cracked.

[Hamlet]

"What exactly was FOX security going to do to them, repeatedly ask them for their badge until they cracked."

O'Reilly is trying to piggyback a line item to Bush's bill counteracting article three of the Geneva Convention so that Fox Security can torture people who don't agree with him.

[PieEyedPiper]

Terrorism = Randomly killing up innocent people.
Terrorism = Dropping bombs on innocent people.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Bong30]

You guys are missing it big time.........

you need death metal


Like Al Capone Said....."give me pliers and a blow torch, and ill get anybody to say anything"

Lets start with the pliers and torch and work our way to Ludacris.... LOL

[Hamlet]

"Like Al Capone Said....."give me pliers and a blow torch, and ill get anybody to say anything""

No doubt about it. If I were tied in a chair and they were working me over with plyers and a blow torch I would tell them anything they wanted to hear. Information? baby you got it! My grandma did it! the bitch! Wadda ya wanna know?!

...and then, if i survived and got out of that chair, I would spend the rest of my life hunting those bastards down.

[Bong30]

"Like Al Capone Said....."give me pliers and a blow torch, and ill get anybody to say anything""

No doubt about it. If I were tied in a chair and they were working me over with plyers and a blow torch I would tell them anything they wanted to hear. Information? baby you got it! My grandma did it! the bitch! Wadda ya wanna know?!

...and then, if i survived and got out of that chair, I would spend the rest of my life hunting those bastards down.

who said you left alive?


your dead dumb shit... how do you hunt dead?


Time to take the gloves off..........

[Bong30]

Terrorism = Randomly killing up innocent people.
Terrorism = Dropping bombs on innocent people.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Let me tell you about Moral equvalancy......

One side (them) is trying to kill inocent people...

one side isnt (us)....

It is hard to understand under all that hate for america


its call WW3 against Islamofascism.... learn it, know it, live it

[Hamlet]

Maybe I is and maybe I isn't.....but listen to yourself dumbshit. One minute you're trying to demonstrate how Hezbollah is evil like Hitler, and the next minute you espouse using Al Capone and Hitler methodologies.

Torture isn't about them, it's about us. They can behave like animals, but we choose the higher ground. We're better than that, we're smarter, and it will always keep us on top. Degrade to their level and we're nothing more than tyrants deserving to be overthrown. We're in this mess to begin with because of sleezeball tactics in foreign policy, and greedy cunts fucking over smaller countries; and the only way out of it is to conduct ourselves with honesty, credibility and dignity.

That macho chest-puffing blowhard shit don't hold water.

[Bong30]

Once we wipe out Radical Islam.....and

They go through a reformation... we put the gloves Back on, till then OFF.

We are fighting for our (western way of life). Dont you see that?



WHEN ONE FUCKING MUSLUM LEADER STANDS UP AND SAYS "DONT KILL INFIDELS" we put the gloves on. Till then off. SEE it Hamlet.

[Bong30]

we should have Taken those 190 Taliband members at the cemetery.....

Gloves off.

It is the PC bullshit happening now in the left leaning media, that spreads to the left wing pussies that disolve our resolve to stop the problem..RADICAL ISMLAM.

It is about time to round up all the america haters and ship there asses out with....the
illegals
radical muslims
america hating leftwing nut jobs

You dont have to die, Just Get the Fuck out.

[Torog]

Howdy Bong30,

You said: " We are fighting for our (western way of life). Dont you see that ? "

It ain't apparent to their side yet,they have blinders on and want the terrorists to be designated as no more than violent criminals,that way,they can turn the 'job' over to the cops and Interpol,then git back to the biz of social engineering and banning Christianity from the town square,raising taxes,destroying marriage,have drive-thru on-demand,abortion clinics and teaching our children how to blame America for everything that goes wrong,teaching our children to explore their sexuality..I could go on and on,'they ' have such a grand agenda to reform and re-shape America,that it's impossible to list everything that 'they' want to do-to 'improve' America.

Maybe their side,will finally have something to object to,in regards to their muslim-jihadists friends,when their 'friends' detonate a nuke or dirty bomb,on US soil,and committ ecological damage..now that's a reason to git pissed off about !

Have a good one ...

[canucktoker]

They dont hate your freedom, or your way of life. Islamofascism is just a buzzword, it means nothing. If you want to point to the biggest influence on islamic nations not being free, look in the mirror. America created these dictators, it was okay for the last 50 years. No radical muslim wants a fascist state anywhere. Its just another term for the terminally stupid, like shock and awe.
America ass rapes muslims with broomsticks, sumerge them in ice water, shackles them in fetal position, beats them, sic dogs on them. I just wonder: Why do you inbred faggots have to keep stripping them? Its the whole deliverence thing again. You might want to try ending the stereotype of american inbred ass raper. They are the bad guys for the human rights abuses? What does that make you?
Even torog doesnt care about terror, look at his homophobic right wing tangent there. He just wants to keep it hillbilly, killing muslims is just a small part of that.

[Ozarks]

Torog, you are right that there are many people who, will not/can not face what is about to happen.

It's sad but true.

[graymatter]

and banning Christianity from the town square

I'm in favor of that! Public displays of religion are disgusting... and they conflict with public displays of sexual behavior, which I'm in favor of.

[dopesmoker]

i thought this article was going to be about the village elders somewhere in asia that made 150 of the village men to stick their hands in boiling oil. lol

[Torog]

Howdy canucktoker,

You said: "Even torog doesnt care about terror, look at his homophobic right-wing tangent there. He just wants to keep it hillbilly, killing muslims is just a small part of that."

Say whaaatt !? What in the world are ya talkin about ? Us country folks,do have a different way of fightin..I guarantee ya..that there are "hillbilly's" out there,that can shoot the pimple off of a gnat's ass..or the camel flea off of a muslim's pointy nose..Yeeehhhaaawww !!!! :thumbsup:

What's this stuff about 'homophobic right-wing tangent', supposed to mean ?

I ain't afraid of gays..I'm supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin,why would I be afraid of someone who's soul I'm trying to save ? I do worry about the damage that radical gays are doing to society and our children and I feel that it's my duty to wage a battle against such..because I'm pro-family values.

Have a good one ! :stoned: :D

[Mark Bryan]

They dont hate your freedom, or your way of life. Islamofascism is just a buzzword, it means nothing. If you want to point to the biggest influence on islamic nations not being free, look in the mirror. America created these dictators, it was okay for the last 50 years. No radical muslim wants a fascist state anywhere. Its just another term for the terminally stupid, like shock and awe.
America ass rapes muslims with broomsticks, sumerge them in ice water, shackles them in fetal position, beats them, sic dogs on them. I just wonder: Why do you inbred faggots have to keep stripping them? Its the whole deliverence thing again. You might want to try ending the stereotype of american inbred ass raper. They are the bad guys for the human rights abuses? What does that make you?
Even torog doesnt care about terror, look at his homophobic right wing tangent there. He just wants to keep it hillbilly, killing muslims is just a small part of that. These things DO NOT constitute the entire military! SHOW ME WHERE IT DOES! Not some nutty few who deserve what they get! This post is pure politically correct drivel and YOU my friend KNOW that!:mad:

[Mark Bryan]

Howdy canucktoker,

You said: "Even torog doesnt care about terror, look at his homophobic right-wing tangent there. He just wants to keep it hillbilly, killing muslims is just a small part of that."

Say whaaatt !? What in the world are ya talkin about ? Us country folks,do have a different way of fightin..I guarantee ya..that there are "hillbilly's" out there,that can shoot the pimple off of a gnat's ass..or the camel flea off of a muslim's pointy nose..Yeeehhhaaawww !!!! :thumbsup:

What's this stuff about 'homophobic right-wing tangent', supposed to mean ?

I ain't afraid of gays..I'm supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin,why would I be afraid of someone who's soul I'm trying to save ? I do worry about the damage that radical gays are doing to society and our children and I feel that it's my duty to wage a battle against such..because I'm pro-family values.

Have a good one ! :stoned: :D

Damn you said it bro!:D These liberals need to be taken to the front lines! THEN we'll see just how many of them would fight!:rasta:

[graymatter]

What about Dubya and Cheney...? They had their chance to fight in their youth. What happened? Wrong war?

We're in this mess partly because these two assholes didn't DO a thing in their youth regarding war. Bush ducked into the Texas ANG and pretended to be serving, and Cheney got pissed at the war protesters outside his college classroom. So they sent other people to fight a war they believed in, and they're using that same level of unaccountability today.

[Krogith]

The official US Army report (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001/) listed all the abuses committed at the Abu Ghraib prison. These methods are standard use in the 'Copper Green' (http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/040524fa_fact) worldwide torture program.
a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;
b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;
c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees;
d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair;
e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape;
f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell;
g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee.
.................
a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;
b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;
c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;
d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;
e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear womenâ??s underwear;
f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;
g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;
h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture;
i. (S) Writing â??I am a Rapestâ?� (sic) on the leg of a detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked;
j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detaineeâ??s neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture;
k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee; [Rape]
l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee;
m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees (after detainees were beaten to death).

YOU SERIOUSLY THINK ALL WE DO TO PEOPLE IS PLAY MUSIC?

[Hamlet]

TORONTO, Sept. 18 - Canadian intelligence officials passed false warnings and bad information to American agents about a Muslim Canadian citizen, after which U.S. authorities secretly whisked him to Syria, where he was tortured, a judicial report found Monday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14897315/

[graymatter]

TORONTO, Sept. 18 - Canadian intelligence officials passed false warnings and bad information to American agents about a Muslim Canadian citizen, after which U.S. authorities secretly whisked him to Syria, where he was tortured, a judicial report found Monday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14897315/

Wonder what that blow hard O'Reilly has to say about that one...