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Sabron
09-13-2006, 10:37 PM
I have wonder'd this question..

It time real? or did we just invent it..

Maui Wowie
09-13-2006, 10:39 PM
We invented what we know of time, time doesn't know us.

make it legal
09-13-2006, 10:39 PM
We invented the measure of time. But it is real.

intrepidus6
09-13-2006, 10:41 PM
In my religius beliefs I believe that time is just an illusion. Everthything is now.

I think that drugs (like cannibus) that alter your sense of time are proff of this, it is just an illusiun created by our human brains.

Mercsix8six
09-13-2006, 10:43 PM
times is the 5th dimensional in a series of 11

Captin
09-13-2006, 10:46 PM
time is real, you guys are on drugs.

homestar
09-13-2006, 10:49 PM
not this again! this was one of the first posts i ever replied to on cann.com

Professor Dan K.
09-13-2006, 10:49 PM
In my religius beliefs I believe that time is just an illusion. Everthything is now.

I think that drugs (like cannibus) that alter your sense of time are proff of this, it is just an illusiun created by our human brains.

ill admit im totally blazed out of my mind right now but that sounded so fuckin cool... thats deep man.


time is real, you guys are on drugs.

rofl, and reality is restored :D

acrca
09-13-2006, 10:51 PM
In my religius beliefs I believe that time is just an illusion. Everthything is now.

I think that drugs (like cannibus) that alter your sense of time are proff of this, it is just an illusiun created by our human brains.

this shit tripped me the fuck out. nice one :thumbsup:

Maui Wowie
09-13-2006, 11:03 PM
I agree with Captin, quit smoking so much pot. Time is obviously there because we witness things age. It is just at what speed things age. We are constantly going forward in time. Perhaps when you get high, all you are sensing is time slowing down for yourself, or speeding up. I think it is possible that if humans had full control over their minds, that we could alter the speed of time, at least for ourselves.

Yes we all understand time is real, that's a obvious fact ffs, nobody said time was slowing down, you've completely avoided the real point. What we're saying is the meaning of time and what all of humanity knows about it is only from human creation and tradition, time is real, what we've made of it is fiction, the word February is real, but only to us.. Human ego is also real too, and it sticks out like a bitch.

slipknotpsycho
09-13-2006, 11:06 PM
the measure of time was invented (the world didn't come with a user's manual that clearly explained what seconds, minutes, hours, ect. were, did it?) but the fact remains there is a past, present and future... so time is real...

bhouncy
09-13-2006, 11:22 PM
If a person was able to slow down their perception of time so that everyone seems to be going in slow motion and words sounded looooonnnnnggggg with a lower tone the person could then move like a rocket to the eyes of everyone. Neo?

Cooler Then Jesus
09-13-2006, 11:29 PM
time? like years? nope, that was made up by the christians or whatever when jesus whats his face not cooler than me died. whose to say that it is 2006? its only 2006 if you believe that jesus was born. i say fuck time, just go with it?

make it legal
09-13-2006, 11:31 PM
hey sabron i have the same shirt as the thing in your av.

dryst
09-13-2006, 11:36 PM
i think time can slow down/speed up, but the change is almost so slow our presception of it would seem like its normal...time is in fact real...even if u cant touch it or smell it or w/e...its a concept...just liek gravity...if it didnt exist or it all of a sudden stopped wed be suspended in time for ever...aging and movement are relative results of time...and yes i do belive if we had the full potential of our barin we could bend the very fabric of time, almost like under pressure a steel beam can be bent...

azure
09-13-2006, 11:41 PM
times is the 5th dimensional in a series of 11

*12

Maui Wowie
09-14-2006, 12:18 AM
WTF are you talking about Maui?

It looked like you were replying to all of us, although I could see how this got mixed up. I think the real question was "is the organized list of months, days, seconds actually real or did we just invent it." Which of course is true, but he makes it sound like humans "invented" time lol.. The way he asked it isn't really clear.

dryst
09-14-2006, 12:23 AM
i thought it was time itself to...

how is the concept of tiem measuremnt hard to figure out?

Cooler Then Jesus
09-14-2006, 12:24 AM
if you have a baby, it is real, once you name it, it is still real.

royalHIGHness
09-14-2006, 12:35 AM
tiiiiiiime......did you know they speculate that when the universe collapses, time is gonna run backwards

Gothen
09-14-2006, 12:38 AM
Time is as real as a knife.

bhouncy
09-14-2006, 12:40 AM
tiiiiiiime......did you know they speculate that when the universe collapses, time is gonna run backwards

The universe wont collapse... or so the latest research says. They thought it was slowing down but now they have discovered that it is actually speeding up. So the universe will expand out of existence until all matter decays and only low energy photons are left.

dryst
09-14-2006, 12:43 AM
tiiiiiiime......did you know they speculate that when the universe collapses, time is gonna run backwards

i belive it...the collapse will invert everything as we know it...small will be big...balck will be white...old will be young..matter will be anti matter...time will untime...so i guess its pssible...the universe seems almost like a game of ping pong...

dryst
09-14-2006, 12:43 AM
The universe wont collapse... or so the latest research says. They thought it was slowing down but now they have discovered that it is actually speeding up. So the universe will expand out of existence until all matter decays and only low energy photons are left.

and then what?...it just stops...its gonna collapse...and all come crashing back and will repeat it self...

royalHIGHness
09-14-2006, 12:48 AM
time is definatly just an illusion that sets limitations on us, our lives, our spiritual developments.......

royalHIGHness
09-14-2006, 12:51 AM
by collapse....i ment reverse expand into a BLACK HOLE THAT EATS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!! (jk)

bhouncy
09-14-2006, 12:53 AM
and then what?...it just stops...its gonna collapse...and all come crashing back and will repeat it self...


Astronomers using the Hubble Space Telescope found the exploding star about 10 billion light-years from Earth. The discovery bolsters the startling notion that the Universe has recently begun speeding up its expansion, which scientists first speculated three years ago based on the unusually dim light from other distant supernovas. "It shows that the expanding of the Universe is really speeding up and not slowing down as conventional astronomers had thought for 70 years," said University of Chicago astronomer Michael Turner.

As it says it is a recent discovery. Turns everything we know about the universe on its head.

dryst
09-14-2006, 12:56 AM
i never said it was slowing down...i nearly said that evetually its gonna stop getting faster and evetually peak ....which will commence the start of the unvises collasping

royalHIGHness
09-14-2006, 12:56 AM
I bet well never know...

royalHIGHness
09-14-2006, 01:04 AM
But seriously...time is an illusion....
what is real is now...the present moment is the only truth...past and future are just phantoms...
time may be necessary to function in the world but dont let it rule your life....

royalHIGHness
09-14-2006, 01:07 AM
haha im hiiiiiiiiigh as a kite........contemplating TIIIIIIIIIME of all things

bhouncy
09-14-2006, 01:08 AM
i never said it was slowing down...i nearly said that evetually its gonna stop getting faster and evetually peak ....which will commence the start of the unvises collasping

OK. I only know a little from what I've read but the peak would theoretically be the speed of light. By this time matter would have decayed to almost nothing. The question that comes to my mind is what is pulling the universe apart? How can something speed up without something pulling or pushing it? I'll have to read some of Hawkings works to try and get my head around it all.

dryst
09-14-2006, 01:10 AM
OK. I only know a little from what I've read but the peak would theoretically be the speed of light. By this time matter would have decayed to almost nothing. The question that comes to my mind is what is pulling the universe apart? How can something speed up without something pulling or pushing it? I'll have to read some of Hawkings works to try and get my head around it all.

why would matter decay?...the time speed rate would increase so slow we wouldnt even relize it...wed go about our lives just the same

bhouncy
09-14-2006, 01:10 AM
I think that if there were a whole bunch of huge black holes formed, that it could eventually pull the universe back in on itself.

We have much still to learn.

partyguy420
09-14-2006, 01:12 AM
dudes. and chicks. i just got a good idea... lets boycott time... that way, we will never have to be late or early agin

dryst
09-14-2006, 01:12 AM
I think that if there were a whole bunch of huge black holes formed, that it could eventually pull the universe back in on itself.

i think it could be just 1 big one...wed die...the time flow would be so fastly fucked up wed either freeze in time or speed up to the point where wed be dead and ashes in the blink of an eye

budsmoker
09-14-2006, 01:14 AM
I agree with Captin, quit smoking so much pot. Time is obviously there because we witness things age. It is just at what speed things age. We are constantly going forward in time. Perhaps when you get high, all you are sensing is time slowing down for yourself, or speeding up. I think it is possible that if humans had full control over their minds, that we could alter the speed of time, at least for ourselves.

you can never smoke 2 much pot:D

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 01:39 AM
I have very deep religius beliefs, that I have attainend from my own experiences. Our human existance is traped by time, but it can be escaped. Time is an illusion, and is simply not real. It is hard to explain what I know, but trust me, I have memories of not being under the influence of time. Space is also an illusion. Everything is here and now.

Gothen
09-14-2006, 01:41 AM
I will say that I do think that time was only really created to keep us in check. "Be here by then, there by this time, then over here by then!"

We've built our world up around us to serve order, so, obviously, we needed something to make sure that things got done when we wanted them to be. Thus, time.

I really don't think that early cultures had such a strict tie to time. I think in our world, we only make ourselves more miserable because we're such slaves to time. Constantly we are bombarded with the fact that we are ALWAYS on the clock. Sometimes we have to give up sleep because of TIME. Sometimes, we have to do things in a way that is not up to par in terms of quality, because of time. We have to rush rush rush, until our lives are nothing BUT.

Time IS a knife, but like any other kind of knife, it's been in our backs since the day we were born and there is no real way we'll ever be able to get it out.

dryst
09-14-2006, 01:41 AM
so ur saying our entire existence is an illusion?...u part of some kind of cult dude...this aint the fuckin matrix...u live and u die...time proves that

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 01:42 AM
this aint the fuckin matrix

Hahaha!!!

Sabron
09-14-2006, 01:46 AM
But really.. We invented how to tell time.. Dosnt mean it was there be4 we knew about it.. Yeah things went on thier own.. But if you think REAL hard we invented time for outselves .. It was not put on this earth alrdy exsiting.. We figured out the phases of the sun.. we tell what time we think it is by that

we go around the sun.. Thats how we tell what time it is.. Everything ages.. Time is fictional and did not exist till we created it for ourselfs

dryst
09-14-2006, 01:48 AM
humans preception doesnt change reality...time was there before we were just because we reconized it and gave it a name doesnt change the fact that it was there before...

Sabron
09-14-2006, 01:49 AM
Yes but is it fictional.. Just because everything was there dosnt mean time existed before we created it for ourselfs

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 01:49 AM
It's not there even now.

Sabron
09-14-2006, 01:52 AM
If time was always around we didnt know it untill we realized everything repeated itself.. Some time the universe will just.. black hole will suck everything up opon itself and everything will start anew.. But TIME iself dosnt mean just aging or what time it is.. i mean TIME,... Everything.. we always rotated around the sun.. dosnt mean time has anything to do with it..

dryst
09-14-2006, 01:54 AM
why does it not exist?...why is it fictional?...because u say so?...what if i said the keyboard im typing on isnt real because i dont belive in them...does that make me right...
ur preception of time doesnt change the fact that it exist whether u want to belive it or not...time is a concept, a concept backed up by mathematical equasions, unless u have some proof toehr than, its fictional because it didnt exist untill humans discovered it...thats like saying...

fire didnt exist until humans discovered it...or even bacteria and what not didnt exist untill humans discovered them...just cause we didnt know about it doesnt mean it wasnt there....

Cooler Then Jesus
09-14-2006, 01:55 AM
the sun is proof of CLOCKING the day, so to speak, but there is no accurate to the minute/second without an electric microscope. also, the amount of light on a clear day can help with time, once you get used to not locking at clocks and using time, you realize that you can clock your day pretty mutch to the exact time everyday, i could guess when 4:20 is during the day on a clear day, looking at the sun would help a bit. but really its that sence of getting used to the time of the day in your head, but it remains nameless...
P.S. every day i get up and go to school, and i can sense when im late, etc. it is weired, i can wake up and go to school and be there right on time no problem, even if i havent looked at a clock or known the time in weeks.

Sabron
09-14-2006, 01:56 AM
I know but how do we KNOW time existed be4 we knew about it.. Or even exists now? that we didnt just create this illusion to tell ourselfs.

dryst
09-14-2006, 01:57 AM
back to my point about this not being the matrix...maybe this steak im eating right now is an illusion...

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 01:59 AM
why does it not exist?...why is it fictional?...because u say so?...

bacteria and what not didnt exist untill humans discovered them

Time does not exist because I have experienced this first hand. I have witnessed time not existing. This is very hard to explain, and if you believe otherwise I really don't give a damn.

Bacteria is also an illusion.

Sabron
09-14-2006, 02:03 AM
You probably whould see that time dosnt exist if you have a near death experiance.. Or you died and the docs broght you back.. i dunno... i know that in my head time is an illusion

dryst
09-14-2006, 02:07 AM
u guys are disputing the facts that im throwing ur face...ur saying ya facts dont mean anything...reality doesnt mean anything...time isnt real...and it isnt real because i dont understand it...its a typical human response...u dont understand what im saying so u lash out with ddenial ...its fine...ill stop posting and 'letu guys win the argument...

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 02:07 AM
You probably whould see that time dosnt exist if you have a near death experiance.. Or you died and the docs broght you back.. i dunno... i know that in my head time is an illusion

Maybe, it depends on what happens to you when you die.

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 02:08 AM
ill stop posting and 'letu guys win the argument...

This is an argument? Since when? I never argue about such things.

dryst
09-14-2006, 02:09 AM
not really an arguement..but maybe a small debate...

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 02:10 AM
Sorry, I didn't mean to be debating.

dryst
09-14-2006, 02:11 AM
Sorry, I didn't mean to be debating.

lol why are u apologizing?...

intrepidus6
09-14-2006, 02:12 AM
Because you say I am debating, and I don't mean to be.

Sabron
09-14-2006, 02:17 AM
Well its more of a conversation of the minds
We all have out thoughts.. I think time was created.. its an illusion.. You may not.. But untill there are Absolute facts that god himself gave mankind proving time exists we cant just say it exists because we use a method we created ourselfs that still is not always right.. We created ways to tell if other ways are correct...We cant PROVE time is acually there.. Nor can the math equations that we wright out.. we made math.. So how can somthing we made that will never be perfect in every way tell us if somthing exists or not..? Thats like telling somone the aliens are coming but we cant see them or hear them nor know about any communications
See them throught any telescope or anything else for that matter

dryst
09-14-2006, 02:17 AM
but from ur point of view were not debating so that means its just an illusion anywayz :p

dryst
09-14-2006, 02:18 AM
u want absolute facts from god?! LMFAO thats the funniest thing i ever heard anyone say...ever...fuckin ever!

Sabron
09-14-2006, 02:19 AM
It was a figure of speech.. Thank you

NextLineIsMine
09-14-2006, 03:16 AM
Time is a meter for change, it doesnt tangibly exist, its a concept.

Cooler Then Jesus
09-14-2006, 03:38 AM
i actualy beleive that it was thought out by some expersts long ago, considering its 12pm on one side of the world simultaniously 12am on the other side. then they broke it down into 24 measurments, then eatch measurment by 60 to minutes, then 60 seconds into a minute, and the fact that the sun is on the other side of the world when it is exactly 12am, we never lost track of time.

dryst
09-14-2006, 04:32 AM
Time is a meter for change, it doesnt tangibly exist, its a concept.

how come it doesnt tangilbly exist?...because the human mind is yet to be able to comprehend it?...

Sabron
09-14-2006, 05:44 AM
As again You cant show proof that time does acually exist.. We created a way to tell time.. dosnt mean its there.. You said we use math...we created math too..

dryst
09-14-2006, 05:47 AM
actaully i could show proof...but im to lazy to research...i dont care what u think that much :D...

but then again ur showing no proof, other than tiem is an illusion because ive seen it before...w/e the hell that means....

Sabron
09-15-2006, 01:43 AM
Time is not real... It is an illusion.. We used methods we created to shove this illision into our own lifes..

cambam
09-15-2006, 07:07 PM
i actualy beleive that it was thought out by some expersts long ago, considering its 12pm on one side of the world simultaniously 12am on the other side. then they broke it down into 24 measurments, then eatch measurment by 60 to minutes, then 60 seconds into a minute, and the fact that the sun is on the other side of the world when it is exactly 12am, we never lost track of time.

So, what does that mean when we change our clocks forward/backward in the spring/autumn???

Has time fucked up? Or have we fucked up cos we couldn't measure time properly?

smoke it
09-15-2006, 11:01 PM
I have wonder'd this question..

It time real? or did we just invent it..

time is real, but we made it. we decided how to split it up, but time itself is a real thing. 12 months in a year, 4 weeks in a month, 7 days in a week, 24 hours in a day, 60 minutes in an hour, 60 seconds in a minute...
we have divided it, but it would still take x amount of time for the earth to make one full rotation around the sun... shit i feel smart

budzy malone
09-15-2006, 11:08 PM
The hierarchy is is like this: POLICE ; seconds
THE DA: minutes
THE JUDGE: hours
YOU: HAH AHAHHAHH

NextLineIsMine
09-16-2006, 05:51 AM
how come it doesnt tangilbly exist?...because the human mind is yet to be able to comprehend it?...

No nothing that deep. Just ask yourself this and ponder it a bit: what is time?

It doesnt physically exist you cant experience time directly. Like... what does time really measure? Its not a force like gravity. As you age it isnt time taking its toll on your body and taking things apart, its little changes happening constantly in your body. I dont think I made the point very clearly

Kryzco
09-16-2006, 06:04 AM
It's all a lie

just like the easter bunny ans santa clause

:(