The Stuff inside Food

[Sabron]

McDonalds has been said to use 40% Grubworms in thier food

A can of tomato soup has up to 4 Crushed fruit fly maggots inside

A can of mixxed fruit ALSO has up to 4 crushed fruit fly maggots inside

Few people know that the food coloring listed as cochineal extract comes from female beetles. Food activists want to spread the word.
When you dig into a strawberry Yoplait yogurt, take a moment to contemplate where the beautiful pink color comes from. Strawberries? Think again. It comes from crushed bugs. Specifically, from the female cochineal beetles and their eggs. And it's not just yogurt. The bugs are also used to give red coloring to Hershey Good & Plenty candies, Tropicana grapefruit juice, and other common foods.

The bright white color in cake frosting comes from a chemical also found in house paint.

Cold cuts a favorite of yours for lunch? Don't think that the nice red color on the ham and bacon is because the factories at Oscar Meyer and Hormel have mastered the art of curing meat beautifully. Rather, it comes from sodium ascorbate, an antioxidant and color stabilizer

Hey vegetarians! Did you know that Jell-O comes from parts of animals that people don't eat?
Jell-O is the comfort food of generations. It's made of gelatin, which goes into making other products like yogurt and ice cream. Not many people know it, but it's made from a protein that is derived from prolonged boiling of animal skin, tissue, and bones.

Even beer foam has a chemical reason for its foaminess
Wonder why the foam in your beer stays that way? It's the propylene glycol alginate, of course! Cheers.

That yummy yellow tint you see in raw chicken at the grocery store doesn't come naturally
The next time you're in the supermarket, you might spot a juicy, healthy-looking yellow chicken. More likely than not, it has been fed canthaxanthin. This hard-to-pronounce pigment is added to chicken feed to enhance the animal's yellow color and make it look palatable. Yum

A little disturbing isnt it?

[souldistortion]

that is sickening. are you lying or am i really baked cuz this is making me wanna not eat shit now.

[stinkyattic]

Underlines the need to know how to grow your own food.
You should look up what the thickening agent in McDonald's frozen shakes is... and hint, it's not just seaweed anymore.

It's a weird polymer that thickens in the presence of water, and you can thin it by adding more salt.

Yummy.

[MaryJaneScott]

that is sickening. are you lying or am i really baked cuz this is making me wanna not eat shit now.

you should not eat shit.
it will get stuck in between your teeth, and to the roof of your mouth
oh yes, and it will taste like shit.

much love.

[mrdevious]

McDonalds has been said to use 40% Grubworms in thier food

I find this very hard to believe. You think how many cows are slaughtered to make those burgers, do they really have enough worms to make an almost equal amount? we're talking tonnes upon tonnes upon tonnes of meat.


A can of tomato soup has up to 4 Crushed fruit fly maggots inside

A can of mixxed fruit ALSO has up to 4 crushed fruit fly maggots inside

Meh, protein. I see no health risk here.


Few people know that the food coloring listed as cochineal extract comes from female beetles. Food activists want to spread the word.
When you dig into a strawberry Yoplait yogurt, take a moment to contemplate where the beautiful pink color comes from. Strawberries? Think again. It comes from crushed bugs. Specifically, from the female cochineal beetles and their eggs. And it's not just yogurt. The bugs are also used to give red coloring to Hershey Good & Plenty candies, Tropicana grapefruit juice, and other common foods.

Quite true, we all take for granted how colourfull our food is, but it's really not supposed to look like that. Not to mention, Red dye (which is in damn near anything) is quite carcinogenic, yet the FDA sees no problem with pumping tonnes of it into our food. I think all the rising cancer rates today is largely due to all the carcinogenic crap in our food, plus the excessive levels of stress people are under now. and if you ask me, I think Coca-cola is cancer causing. no i don't have anything to back that up, just a hunch.


The bright white color in cake frosting comes from a chemical also found in house paint.

not surprising, yet still disturbing.


Cold cuts a favorite of yours for lunch? Don't think that the nice red color on the ham and bacon is because the factories at Oscar Meyer and Hormel have mastered the art of curing meat beautifully. Rather, it comes from sodium ascorbate, an antioxidant and color stabilizer

Is there something bad about antioxidants?


Hey vegetarians! Did you know that Jell-O comes from parts of animals that people don't eat?
Jell-O is the comfort food of generations. It's made of gelatin, which goes into making other products like yogurt and ice cream. Not many people know it, but it's made from a protein that is derived from prolonged boiling of animal skin, tissue, and bones.

This I knew.


Even beer foam has a chemical reason for its foaminess
Wonder why the foam in your beer stays that way? It's the propylene glycol alginate, of course! Cheers.

What exactly is propylene glycol alginate, and why should I fear it?:confused:


That yummy yellow tint you see in raw chicken at the grocery store doesn't come naturally
The next time you're in the supermarket, you might spot a juicy, healthy-looking yellow chicken. More likely than not, it has been fed canthaxanthin. This hard-to-pronounce pigment is added to chicken feed to enhance the animal's yellow color and make it look palatable. Yum

can we not ANYTHING natural these days?


A little disturbing isnt it?

More people need to be disturebed, and more than a little.

[Skink]

http://www.laleva.org/eng/junk_food.html

[stinkyattic]

What exactly is propylene glycol alginate,



Propylene glycol is used for antifreeze. The alginate, I dunno.

[buddymyfriend]

Underlines the need to know how to grow your own food.
You should look up what the thickening agent in McDonald's frozen shakes is... and hint, it's not just seaweed anymore.

It's a weird polymer that thickens in the presence of water, and you can thin it by adding more salt.

Yummy.

Chicken fat I believe, Mmmm and guess how they get away with it?

[suhl]

Cold cuts a favorite of yours for lunch? Don't think that the nice red color on the ham and bacon is because the factories at Oscar Meyer and Hormel have mastered the art of curing meat beautifully. Rather, it comes from sodium ascorbate, an antioxidant and color stabilizer

OH SHIT, THE ARTIFICIAL COLORING PREVENTS CANCER. AHHHHHHH

but sseriously. if it isnt hurting me and ii cant taste it, i dont care unless they start grinding penises into groiound beef or something.
and fast food was shitty anyway at this point does anyone not know there has to be something wrong with that shit

[stinkyattic]

Not chicken fat, but a fully artificial polymeric sustance from a LAB. Yuck.

[buddymyfriend]

Macdonalds disclaimer:

Percentage Daily values are based on a 2,000 Calorie diet. Your Daily values may be higher or lower depending on your Calorie needs.

Please note that the ingredient disclosures contained in this section relate to the menu items available at McDonald's Restaurants in Canada only. Availability of product and sizes may vary by region. Ingredients and nutritional information for McDonald's regional and test products are not included. The lists in this guide are also subject to some variation depending on local supplier and the season of the year. However, any differences would be slight, since all products served at McDonald's - and provided by our suppliers - meet McDonald's strict specifications and standards of quality.

From time to time, McDonald's reviews the recipes of its menu items and makes changes to the recipes in an effort to efficiently serve you great tasting food at good value. During any test period of a new recipe, and also during the phase-in period of a new product, featuring a new recipe, some restaurants may continue to offer the product based on the previous recipe and other restaurants may offer the product based on the new recipe.

It's the last paragraph that worries me, so what they can do is use any kind of ingredients and not tell us what's in it!?!?! Kinda scary if ya ask me!

[Breukelen advocaat]

The overall worst thing in many foods is Gluten, which is in wheat, barley, rye and their derivatives- and hardly anybody realizes it. Up to 40 percent of people have a sensitivity to this, and it is poison to them. This will be common knowledge one day, but in the meantime many people are getting all kinds of illnesse, including cancers, as a result of it.

[stinkyattic]

Oh yeah, ciliac disease?
That's NOT fun from what I hear from my friend who has it.
And they put gluten ingredients into so many foods that she has a right bitch of a time going out to restaurants and ordering anything besides basically salad with oil and vinegar.

[highjinx]

god! what isnt bad for you these days!
i think ill be a rebel and eat whatever food i want!:rolleyes: :dance:

[Breukelen advocaat]

Oh yeah, ciliac disease?
That's NOT fun from what I hear from my friend who has it.
And they put gluten ingredients into so many foods that she has a right bitch of a time going out to restaurants and ordering anything besides basically salad with oil and vinegar.

Well, I'm glad to hear that people are becoming aware of this. I have Celiac, and didn't find out what was wrong with me until 2005.

There are restaurants that cater to people with Celiac Disease. P.F Changs, Outback Steakhouse, and other restaurants have gluten-free menus.

The rate of Celiac Disease, an inherited autoimmune disease, which is Gluten Intolerance, is about 1 in 100 people in the U.S. The rate of Gluten Sensitivity is more like 1 in 3, and there is very little knowledge of this - even by doctors and specialists.

In the summer of 2008, all products that contain gluten will be required by the FDA to say so on the packaging. This is going to help those with gluten sensitivity and intolerance.

Someday, everybody will be tested for these conditions. You can get genetic tests for it, through the mail. It's expensive, but some insurance plans will pay for it.

[Gothen]

At this point, I'm looking for the worst possible shit I could put into my body.

Cheers.

[highjinx]

At this point, I'm looking for the worst possible shit I could put into my body.

Cheers.

lol:D :thumbsup:

[benagain]

I may be completely retarted here, but isn't gluten the stuff that is formed when you over mix dough? Ex: overmixing pizza dough will collapse and you're left with hard chewey nasty dough due to too much gluten. I can't remember the specifics of how it works with the yeast and proteins, but I hear it mentioned on food tv all the time in regards to making anything from bread to pancakes. Just wondering the difference, if any from the gluten mentioned above.

Ohh and processed foods are bad. period. I still eat mcdonalds, but only every now and then. When possible, I try to eat as fresh as possible, but when you're on a budget, it's hard to stay away from the processed shit. If you have a farm or a good sized garden, then more power to you!

[Breukelen advocaat]

I may be completely retarted here, but isn't gluten the stuff that is formed when you over mix dough? Ex: overmixing pizza dough will collapse and you're left with hard chewey nasty dough due to too much gluten. I can't remember the specifics of how it works with the yeast and proteins, but I hear it mentioned on food tv all the time in regards to making anything from bread to pancakes. Just wondering the difference, if any from the gluten mentioned above.

Ohh and processed foods are bad. period. I still eat mcdonalds, but only every now and then. When possible, I try to eat as fresh as possible, but when you're on a budget, it's hard to stay away from the processed shit. If you have a farm or a good sized garden, then more power to you!

Yes, that's pretty much what gluten is - but it's not a "natural" food for humans because it comes from wheat, barley, rye and their derivitives. Our ancient ancestors did not eat this stuff - and it was first introduced to Middle and Northern Europe by the Romans, and then spread during the Germanic tribes travels through Europe. Because the climate was harsh in many parts of Europe, strains of wheat with even more gluten were developed.

There is even a theory that the Plague would never have been as bad as it was in Europe if the people hadn't been eating Wheat products as the staple of their diets. The far East didn't suffer massive problems from the Plague at that time, and they didn't generally eat wheat products. Their immune systems were not compromised by gluten, and they survived.

I just found this website, a British Celiac (they spell it "coelic"):
http://www.internethealthlibrary.com/DietandNutrition/gluten.htm

[birdgirl73]

Sabron, youâ??ve been the victim of some social folklore, and now youâ??re further spreading that folklore by passing on a good bit of inaccurate information to others.

Mr. Devious has accurately questioned your grub worm statistic. Grub worms arenâ??t anywhere near as big as cattle. Thereâ??d have to be large, industrial grub worm farms in order to supply 40% of McDonaldsâ?? beef supply. That 40% figure is neither practical nor credible. Everyone should worry a lot more about the saturated fat content of McDonalds beef rather than about grub worms, which, if they were used, would provide much healthier protein.

The fruit fly maggot statistic is probably accurate. Fruit flies are miniscule, and they do like to hang around fruit and tomatoes. Iâ??m sure maggots as well as the actual fly bodies do get into cans. Good thing the canners are required by law to use stringent sterilization procedures. Insects provide healthy protein, and plenty of cultures eat bugs routinely.

Read here about cochineal dye. Itâ??s derived from the insect but that doesnâ??t mean the actual whole beetles are used for red coloring in foods: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal

I donâ??t know what bright white chemical youâ??re talking about in frosting or paint, but there are plenty of food-safe chemicals that are used in industry, too. (And plenty of unsafe ones as well. Keep reading.)

The red coloring in ham, cold cuts, hot dogs, etc., isnâ??t from sodium ascorbate, which is vitamin C. Itâ??s actually from myoglobin, a protein which carries oxygen to the muscles of all animals, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_meat, and often from carbon monoxide gas, of all things, which reacts with the myoglobin to cause a bright red color and slow down the natural oxidation that would occur in meat and make it turn brownish gray. Hereâ??s some info about the use of CO gas in meats: http://www.consumerfed.org/pdfs/CFA_STOP_Letter_of_Support_CO_&_Meat.pdf#search=%22red%20coloration%20in%20meat%2 2

Once the red color is achieved, a carcinogenic preservative called sodium nitrite helps to maintain that redness after the meat is packaged and processed, making it look fresher. Hereâ??s some info on both sodium ascorbate and sodium nitrite:
http://www.greatvistachemicals.com/vitamins-vitamin/ascorbic-acid.html
Sodium nitrite has been strongly linked with pancreatic and other types of cancer: http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/processedmeat050305.cfm

Most knowledgeable people know that gelatin is derived from the bones and cartilage of animals, and vegetarians, whoâ??re an intelligent bunch, keenly aware of what theyâ??re eating, are well aware of this fact. Most glues are derived from animal bones and connective tissue, too. If youâ??ve ever cooked with beef or chicken bones, youâ??ll see first-hand how gelatin forms.

Propylene glycol alginate is derived from algae and used widely as a thickener and stabilizer in foods. http://www.fao.org/docrep/W6355E/w6355e0u.htm
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_223a.html This chemical doesnâ??t cause the foaminess in beer, as you stated. It simply helps the beer maintain any foam that occurs. Read here, and youâ??ll see that it should probably be the least of our worries when it comes to ingredients in beer: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4942262.stm

Finally, canthaxanthin is indeed a food additive, but itâ??s responsible for pink coloration. Itâ??s fed to salmon to give it that nice pink color. In animal feed in the U.S., itâ??s used to help ensure pink meat and also as an antibiotic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canthaxanthin

The yellow fat you see in chickens is because of both carotin, a naturally occurring pigment in animal blood and plasma, and xanthophyll. Both carotin and xanthophyll are lipochrome pigments. Xanthophyll is also why the yolks of chicken eggs are yellow. Chickens get xanthophyll, just as we do, through a diet of yellow foods. Chicken feed is largely made of corn, hence the yellow fat color. If they ate a squash-heavy diet, their fat would be yellow, too. Human fat, by the way, is yellowish, too, for the same reasons.
Hereâ??s some info on these pigments: http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/77/2/619.pdf#search=%22coloration%20in%20chicken%20fat% 22

Forgive the length of this post, but as a medical student whoâ??s hard at work in a biochemistry class right now, I felt it was important to set the record straight with more accurate information.

[birdgirl73]

Thanks, guys! The sad thing is I think this whole subject has put me off food this evening and possibly for longer. We had salmon, and my husband asked, "Why aren't you eating your supper?" I kept thinking about pink food additives and stabilizers and thickeners (we were also having salad with dressing containing propylene glycol alginate). I ate a couple of bites of rice and let him eat the rest of my food. Tomorrow I may fast . . .

[birdgirl73]

How about Birdgirl for homework so she can someday become a physician. I'm going to force myself to sign off and go do that now. Dang it. I'd rather chat on the boards. I'd make a terrible president. I'd spend far too much time crying about the state of the world.

Billlionfold for president!

[NightProwler]

goddamn who cares. foods food and a couple invisible bugs dont kill anyone.

[partyguy420]

hey... were all gonna die some day...

[slipknotpsycho]

dunno if it's mentioned but don't forget milk has a good ammount of blood a pus in it...

[birdgirl73]

That's why it's pasteurized and heated to sterilize it. Cow teats are notorious for getting infected and nasty, what with calf mouths and milking machines sucking on them and the way they hang and drag around in cow dung and other horrifying substances. My granddad had a dairy farm. Dairy farmers aren't supposed to milk cows with infected udders, but it probably happens all the time anyway.

[BabySnookums]

i was eating salsa when my husband was like "dont read this" so of course i finished my food and promptly read it...didnt gross me out as bad as when i'm having supper and fear factor comes on *gags*

[BabySnookums]

That's why it's pasteurized and heated to sterilize it. Cow teats are notorious for getting infected and nasty, what with calf mouths and milking machines sucking on them and the way they hang and drag around in cow dung and other horrifying substances. My granddad had a dairy farm. Dairy farmers aren't supposed to milk cows with infected udders, but it probably happens all the time anyway.

fuckin ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww:(

[birdgirl73]

Hey, BabySnookums! Good to see you online. How's you leg doing and how's the rest of you? I asked SlipKnot about you a couple of days ago on another thread, but I'm not sure he saw my question. Hope y'all are both doing well after that horrifying accident. Hope that drunk spends some time in jail, too, or at least gets his license taken away.

[make it legal]

birdgirl is always so smart.

great respect to you

[birdgirl73]

Thanks, MakeItLegal, and much respect to you too. I'm not all that smart. There are lots smarter ones than me around here!

[BabySnookums]

Hey, BabySnookums! Good to see you online. How's you leg doing and how's the rest of you? I asked SlipKnot about you a couple of days ago on another thread, but I'm not sure he saw my question. Hope y'all are both doing well after that horrifying accident. Hope that drunk spends some time in jail, too, or at least gets his license taken away.

my legs doing alot better. i had the staples and stitches out awhile back. i'm starting to attempt to "walk" on it, but supporting some of my weight still on the crutches. my job took me offa payroll, so if they dont hire me back, i gadda look for a new job. i have a total of about 70,000 dollars in unpaid medical bills.

the girl that hit me....nothing happened to her. she didnt have a license to even be taken away. she had drove her moms car w/o permission, so the mom got a ticket or something as far as i know. nobody went to jail at all. might as well have been like it didnt fucking happen. and they only had liability so i'll only be able to get 20 thousand, 33.3% of which is the lawyers, and the rest goes to the damned bills ><

all in all...i'm doing ok....only because my husband is the most wonderful person in the world and has been taking good care of me.

[SocksThaClown]

my legs doing alot better. i had the staples and stitches out awhile back. i'm starting to attempt to "walk" on it, but supporting some of my weight still on the crutches. my job took me offa payroll, so if they dont hire me back, i gadda look for a new job. i have a total of about 70,000 dollars in unpaid medical bills.

the girl that hit me....nothing happened to her. she didnt have a license to even be taken away. she had drove her moms car w/o permission, so the mom got a ticket or something as far as i know. nobody went to jail at all. might as well have been like it didnt fucking happen. and they only had liability so i'll only be able to get 20 thousand, 33.3% of which is the lawyers, and the rest goes to the damned bills ><

all in all...i'm doing ok....only because my husband is the most wonderful person in the world and has been taking good care of me.

What happened to you in the first place? I don't think I was on or maybe I was spacing out. :p

[buddymyfriend]

my legs doing alot better. i had the staples and stitches out awhile back. i'm starting to attempt to "walk" on it, but supporting some of my weight still on the crutches. my job took me offa payroll, so if they dont hire me back, i gadda look for a new job. i have a total of about 70,000 dollars in unpaid medical bills.

the girl that hit me....nothing happened to her. she didnt have a license to even be taken away. she had drove her moms car w/o permission, so the mom got a ticket or something as far as i know. nobody went to jail at all. might as well have been like it didnt fucking happen. and they only had liability so i'll only be able to get 20 thousand, 33.3% of which is the lawyers, and the rest goes to the damned bills ><

all in all...i'm doing ok....only because my husband is the most wonderful person in the world and has been taking good care of me.

Man that sucks! I wish you a speedy recovery and bad karma to the girl that hit you!

Peace

Buddy

[shoi]

Billlionfold for president!


i think billion would be better as a chairman for some obscure house commity...

[SpiritLevel]

yeah right!

[stinkyattic]

That's why it's pasteurized and heated to sterilize it. Cow teats are notorious for getting infected and nasty, what with calf mouths and milking machines sucking on them and the way they hang and drag around in cow dung and other horrifying substances. My granddad had a dairy farm. Dairy farmers aren't supposed to milk cows with infected udders, but it probably happens all the time anyway.

The cows milk thing is a double edged sword though.
By pasteurizing the milk, a lot of the enzymes it contains are destroyed, making it less digestible.

This is one of the reasons that a level of lactose intolerance is so widespread.

Humans simply don't naturally have the enzymes necessary to break down cows milk proteins.

If you were to feed a calf only pasteurized milk, it would be unable to process the proteins too. It would then become ill from malnutrition. Not to mention the antibodies that the mother cow passes along through her milk.

A dear friend of mine in Vermont has started drinking only raw milk from his friend's small herd of dairy cows because of this. He's also raising ALL his own fooed- veggies, eggs, and hunting for game. Honestly he has never looked so good in his life, and the weird health problems he'd been having are GONE.

If cows were still hand milked, the disgusting contamination from the automated milkers would not necessitate pasteurization.

And if we all lived closer to our food sources, we wouldn't have to add so many preservatives to our food so it could travel long distances to us.

How about birdgirl for MOD?

[SpiritLevel]

I am lactose intolerant!

[Breukelen advocaat]

Vance's DariFree â?¢
Fat-Free Non-Dairy Milk Alternative from Potatoes
GFCF (Gluten-Free, Casein-Free)

We use this milk replacement every day, and itâ??s fine. They also make a chocolate version. My wife is now totally dairy-free, and I comsume about 8 ounces of skim milk a day, with coffee - but I may stop completely if my tests show a lactose or casein intolerance (which I think I have).

It comes dry, in a container that looks like one for standard milk. One box makes many quarts. You just mix it with water, and itâ??s ready.

http://www.vancesfoods.com/originaltest.html

[dryst]

The bugs are also used to give red coloring to Hershey Good & Plenty candies, Tropicana grapefruit juice, and other common foods.


....i love grapefruit juice...
and i love good and plenty....

u know...sometimes ignorance is bliss...and in this case i woulda rather not fo known...but thanks for the heads up anywayz :p

[SpiritLevel]

Alpro (http://www.alprosoya.co.uk/homepage/_en-UK/index.html) for me... Does anyone Juice?

[stinkyattic]

I've been drinking organic soy milk lately.
One of my GFs and I got silly on soy white Russians this weekend.
Always good to eat healthy and then fill your body with dangerous levels of ethanol...
:D

[benagain]

I'm affraid I'll only give up milk and other foods when a doctor checks me out and tells me I can't have it anymore. I've tried numerous soy products and aside from tofu, I can't stand any of them. Not that they taste horrible, but they don't taste like milk or whatever they're trying to emulate. My hats off to you guys that can stomach the stuff, more power to you, but I'm fit as a fiddle and I've been a heavy milk drinker my whole life. No broke bones through 4 years of football and wrestling so no complaints. I drink about 12 oz of milk every night before I go to bed. I don't sleep right if I don't.

[SpiritLevel]

Thing is, it is you who wants the product to emulate what you are used to. Why should soya milk taste like cows milk, dears milk or monkey milk? Non of those milks taste the same (I think?) They have different compositions for a start. IMO you're a big baby; does vodka taste like water? they look the same (tho there is no, what you call, emulation) I didn't particularly like soya milk when I first tried it, cus it has an unfamiliar taste. One gets used to it. My bro been drinking it for many many years and he's well into contact sports namely rubgy (the man's version of american football), no broken bones either. If you ent lactose intolerant then a doctor will probly never tell you to stop drinking it.. In fact I'm sure my local surgey promotes it..

[benagain]

Thing is, it is you who wants the product to emulate what you are used to. Why should soya milk taste like cows milk, dears milk or monkey milk? Non of those milks taste the same (I think?) They have different compositions for a start. IMO you're a big baby; does vodka taste like water? they look the same (tho there is no, what you call, emulation) I didn't particularly like soya milk when I first tried it, cus it has an unfamiliar taste. One gets used to it. My bro been drinking it for many many years and he's well into contact sports namely rubgy (the man's version of american football), no broken bones either. If you ent lactose intolerant then a doctor will probly never tell you to stop drinking it.. In fact I'm sure my local surgey promotes it..

Hey, i didn't mean anything agains soy milk or the people who drink it. Simply saying I don't like it. And I'm not sure about the marketing schemes over seas, but over here, they push soy milk as an alternative to milk. Meaning it's trying to emulate milk. I'm sorry, but I'm not eating it on my cereal, or drinking strait. Just like the soy burgers. I know they're not hamburgers, so don't try and tell me they taste like them. they don't. Like a said, I'm happy that you've found something you enjoy (sucks if you're drinking it because you're sick, please accept my apologies if you are). If you enjoy it, then keep eating it. Tell your friends about it. I don't want to come off as a milk nazi or anything. There are a few things on this earth that I just love. Milk is one of them. I say whatever floats you boat.....:thumbsup:

[Fengzi]

Thanks, guys! The sad thing is I think this whole subject has put me off food this evening and possibly for longer. We had salmon, and my husband asked, "Why aren't you eating your supper?" I kept thinking about pink food additives and stabilizers and thickeners (we were also having salad with dressing containing propylene glycol alginate). I ate a couple of bites of rice and let him eat the rest of my food. Tomorrow I may fast . . .


Ever wonder why wild salmon isn't as pink as farmed salmon? No, they don't dye the fish, but they do put coloring in the food fed to farmed salmon. They have to since farmed salmon wouldn't be eating the same things that wild salmon would that naturally turn the meat pink.

Anyhow, what all of this leads up to is that we really need to be aware of what we're eating. There's lots of choices out there, some are good and some are bad. I can buy a great microbrew beer without any propylene glycol alginate that tastes better than anything with it, just not a foamy. I can make a great buttercream frosting for a cake without any paint chemicals. It may not be be so white that you need sunglasses to look at it but it will taste great and still be as white as it needs to be. I can buy nitrate free hot dogs which may not last a year in the fridge like regular hot dogs but taste great; and who wants anything that's been in the fridge for a year?

So, do a little research, find what's good and what's bad, then buy accordingly. Then the only thing you need to worry about is getting hit by a car in the grocery parking lot.

[SpiritLevel]

Hey, i didn't mean anything agains soy milk or the people who drink it. Simply saying I don't like it. And I'm not sure about the marketing schemes over seas, but over here, they push soy milk as an alternative to milk. Meaning it's trying to emulate milk. I'm sorry, but I'm not eating it on my cereal, or drinking strait. Just like the soy burgers. I know they're not hamburgers, so don't try and tell me they taste like them. they don't. Like a said, I'm happy that you've found something you enjoy (sucks if you're drinking it because you're sick, please accept my apologies if you are). If you enjoy it, then keep eating it. Tell your friends about it. I don't want to come off as a milk nazi or anything. There are a few things on this earth that I just love. Milk is one of them. I say whatever floats you boat.....:thumbsup:
Chill! Even thoguh I sounded explosive, it was non intentional.. I apollogise

[BabySnookums]

What happened to you in the first place? I don't think I was on or maybe I was spacing out.

me and my husband were going to do laundry, went next door to the 7-11 to get a soda. came out and a car comes flying in, hits me, doesnt even try to stop and pins me between the brick wall and the car. my upper right leg was broke in two. i now have a metal rod in there, never will come out.

nothing happened to the people though...thats the main thing that pisses me off. that and i wont have a way to pay my bills cuz they're too much and their insurance isnt' gonna pay SHIT.

:mad:

[benagain]

Chill! Even thoguh I sounded explosive, it was non intentional.. I apollogise

Me too :dance:

[cuziwashigh420]

i only have one thing to say to that...

YUM

[orangeman]

Sabron I hate you lol, I JUST got done eating a McDonald sandwich omfg. That blew my high xD.

[Sabron]

Acually all this information is correct expect for the mcdonalds part witch i hear as a myth and decided to pass it on.,... Every thing else is 100% accurate and correct.. I will look up each chemical and post when i can

[birdgirl73]

There's no need to, Sabron. The facts have already been sorted from the fiction up above. And about half of it was fiction or at least partially inaccurate. You'll have to trust me on this. Both Google and Google Scholar are good places to find concrete nutritional/food safety facts, but I'm fortunate enough to also have an entire networked U.S. medical school library at my disposal. You'll wanna do thorough research before you post things sight un-researched, as it were.

[stinkyattic]

Hey birgirl, I was under the impression that Vitamin C was simply ascorbic acid, which contains only C, H, and O, and no Na, and that Sodium ascorbate was a salt of that acid.
Not to mince molecules :D

[birdgirl73]

You did a good job mincing molecules! The strange thing is--and I've wondered why they do this--most general chemistry info on the Web, along with the biochem professors and all the chemists who work with us at school, use the terms interchangeably. And the basic acids compared to the salts really aren't interchangeable because of the addition of the sodium. I've heard them doing that with other salts, too. I know I did that with sodium ascorbate because I've heard it done that way. But why do real chemists do that? Because they think of them as the same thing?