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hey, ive been reading up on cocaine and it seems like almost the perfect drug, other than the addiction problems, it makes u feel like god and the high lasts a mere 15 minutes if in fact u dislike the high, i was wondering if there are any physical or mental problems associated with cocaine other than addiction, it is in fact a drugs so there are bound to be some shit side effects, but as comes with all drugs, cept for weed, which i feel is'nt a drug, i call cocaine, cocaine and not blow,rock,candy etc. because i respect this drug because it seems like pretty powerful shit. ide like to try it but i need some tips, on where to get it, and i want it the purest i can get it, so yah some advice would be helpful
Peace
Mello.as.Hello
10-23-2004, 04:46 PM
Oof, dude. I'm NOT a coke fan. Good luck with all that.
I'm gonna go smoke a fat little nug and go to work. Buhbye.
i've decided against doing cocaine, atleast for a while, till im out of school, ill stick to smoking weed, but i would still appreciate some info
Peace
koshea
10-23-2004, 06:45 PM
dude....stay away from coke...its dumb...for a half our you act like a dumbass and freak out, you CANT hide the high and you can die from i...stick with weed...or if weed gets boring, get better weed
rnf232s
10-23-2004, 08:32 PM
I dont know a lot on the physical damage it can do, but continual use of coke will destroy your nasal passages if you snort it. It also isnt good for your heart. You increase your risks of heart attacks.
kdawg745
10-23-2004, 10:43 PM
iv been with my friend the last 4 or 5 times hes done it and i was planning on doing it with him until i saw him do it, cause after he did 2 or 3 lines he was all wired and he was shaking and pissed off for the most part and after 30 minutes when he came down he said he needed more so he had to go buy more, scary shit...so after that iv decided to stay away from coke just cause as good as the high is its gotta outweigh the coming down and side effects (quick addiction, short high, costs lots of money). Id recommend staying away from it.
shogun
10-23-2004, 11:57 PM
Let's see, the positives of coke, you get wired, um, that's about it.
The negatives, price(around $20 for a quarter gram), short lived effects, highly addictive, bad for the heart, sinuses, and throat, causes severe paranoid reactions in some. This shit is bad news, not only will it make your money dissapear, but so will anything you have that a value can be placed on, if not by you selling it to buy coke, then in the pockets of your new coke "buddies" for the same price you can buy methamphetamine, which lasts longer, but is just as bad, if not worse.
Not trying to be captain bringdown, but I can tell you from experience, coke and meth are pure evil.
Midnight Baker
12-10-2005, 08:57 PM
Expensive, addictive, paranoid, short high, odds of an OD are good, bad batch of coke will kill you. Serious drug dealers. Presuming you enjoy the high, how many times a day would you do it? and if your doing it on the daily....your over your head. Stick to natural stuff.
NightProwler
12-10-2005, 09:08 PM
fucks your nose up majorly
Fan o KmK
12-10-2005, 09:11 PM
hey, ive been reading up on cocaine and it seems like almost the perfect drug, Peace
what the fuck is wrong with you. coke is anything but the perfect drug. i know more people whos lives have been ruined by cocaine than anything in the entire world. i dont know where your getting your information, and i dont know you so i cant judge but if you value your life at all stay away from coke.
CocaCola
12-10-2005, 09:51 PM
Don't ask for advise here, they like to stick the green. It's like a fucking DARE commercial in here...
geoffrowley19
12-10-2005, 10:09 PM
hes posting in the recreational room, ofcourse hes gonna get lectured, its a harmful drug, but ask about it in the other drugs section
Doobie Snax
12-10-2005, 10:17 PM
dude....stay away from coke...its dumb...for a half our you act like a dumbass and freak out, you CANT hide the high...
Mate... have u done coke before? Cuz that's bullshit.
I tried it for the 1st time today, i didnt act like a prick and it didnt freak me out. It numbs your face a lot, mainly your throat, nose and gums. It makes you feel more confident, and yeh, the high goes away after about half an hour, but the numbness faded about 2 hours later.
All in all it's expensive and not worth the money imo. And the comedown is a bitch, and i don't even get comedowns off ecstasy, so that was a shock to me.
And yeh, ask this in the 'other psychotropics' forum, people are less uptight and twattish there. ;)
endo..jay
12-10-2005, 10:19 PM
well even thought this ia a pretty much dead thread cuz if you check the dates between posts its almost a month ands a half...
but anyways..
i have been addicted to coke and i would not call it the perfect drug because of the addiction thing. coke is nice in moderation just like any drug. smokin the endo everyday is ok cuz its not a drug. but coke is and coke has a bunch of nasty chemicals in it that you face as well...almost all coke is cut you are never gonna find pure coke even the purest of pure shitt has nasty chems in it just not the baby formula or ajax or whatever its cut with.. coke is processed with hydrocloric acid and some other chems...the shit you buy on the streets is cut with shit and alll this shit eats away your septum of you nose. not to mention where do you think this shit goes when you take it? your lungs and im sure theres chems arent good for the lungs and respitory system...plan on mainveinin it? have fun for about a minute your high will last about as long as it takes to get the needle out...wanna free base it go ahead its not as effective and can you say richard pryor?...dont get me wrong i still like coke but you need to learn everything about every hard drug you do...but if you do do it that make sure you have something for the comedown cuz it sucks smoke a blunt thats the best...and fight all temptation to do more when you 'feel the urge' thats addiction knockin at your door...good luck man and have fun....jay
Doobie Snax
12-10-2005, 10:25 PM
wanna free base it go ahead its not as effective and can you say richard pryor?
Yeh man, he went on a freebasing cocaine binge and ended up dousing himself in rum/cognac and setting himself alight.
Not my idea of a good night out.
WeedyBoyWonder
12-10-2005, 11:32 PM
coke is 9 million % over rated. Dont even go there and be a better man. There is ALOT better drugs, for recreational use. Like Acid, MDMA, or ketermin.
jay42
12-10-2005, 11:54 PM
Yes, I know coke is only a mental addiciton but A LOT of people underestimate that power. When you do coke YOU WANT MORE. Not like "oh that was cool-let's do it again some time," its like you need more right there and then. It will run you into social, financial, and mental problems. Not to mention it is very easy to get caught up and die from an overdose. I've seen it happen to people I know. The main thing is that people underestimate its hold over you. You should go in kind of expecting to deal with addiction one way or another.
I don't know about you, but I would not feel great being high on a drug that could easily kill me. I like weed because it is relaxing, relatively safe, and good for my eye pressure that is abnormally high after a skiing accident.
Seag420
12-11-2005, 12:18 AM
well said jay42,it makes me laugh when i read on here people saying stuff like 'have you even tried coke,no, so dont judge it'.it takes alot of will power to resist a drug like coke, it really is not worth it if you have even the slightest addictive peosonality
endo..jay
12-11-2005, 12:53 AM
yea but remember coke is easier to quit then ciggerettes
Nullific
12-11-2005, 01:16 AM
If your coke is pure death as a result of insufflation is pretty rare.
Take a look, here are the number of direct and indirect deaths as a result of:
Tobacco, 430,000
Alcohol, 110,000
Cocaine, 4,864
Heroin, 4,820
Tranquilizers, 2,038
Antidepressants, 1,745
SOURCES: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (tobacco); National Institutes of Health (alcohol); U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services (cocaine, heroin, tranquilizers, and antidepressants). Drugs in the HHS survey were cited as contributing factors, not necessarily direct causes of death.
When you do coke the first times you may want more, but to actually go out and buy more is a decision you make because you're still in control. Thanks to the government cocaine is unregulated and thus supplied in its extracted form via the blackmarket so the average user can never be sure how pure it is or what else is in it. The form it is supplied in implies it either be smoked as a freebase (crack) or injected/insufflated as a salt. The more direct route of administration used the more intense and shorter lived the effects will be. Smoking and injecting are the most direct route of administration, thus the effects come on within seconds and fade just as quickly. With insufflation it is slower as the cocaine must be absorbed through the mucus membrane.
Frequent, high dose usage of cocaine from any of these routes could result in cardiovascular problems.
Then again, low dosage cocaine gum has been shown to produce a stimulation similar to having a few cups of coffee. It also appears to be safe and is not addictive.
50BagOfGreens
12-11-2005, 02:40 AM
coke is something i do when i really feel fat so i use it to loose weight but other then that its pointlesssss
Seag420
12-11-2005, 02:49 AM
why not try exercise, its better for you!
powair
12-11-2005, 02:57 AM
Dude, are you a fool? Concaine, the perfect drug, riiiiight.
There are so many bad side effects, it's hard to believe you didn't come across them as you say you've been researching it. Damage to the brain, heart, nasal passage (if snorted), veins (if injected), and if you smoke it as crack, excess lung and brain damage. Cocaine induced psychosis. Paranoia. Panic attacks. Increased risk of heart attacks and heart failure. Damage to the liver. Seizures. Use can bring out a whole host of predisposed psychological illnesses. Disrupts the sleep pattern.
And all for a 15 minute high? Shit, if I'm going to be risking all that, the high better fucking last at least 12 hours, lol.
Nullific
12-11-2005, 03:51 AM
Well shit man anybody can take the most extreme possible negative reactions of any substance and list them all out to magnify its apparent dangers. The government commonly uses this same tactic against marijuana smokers and hallucinogenic/empathogenic drug users, we call it propaganda.
Marijuana causes short-term memory loss, problems with learning, difficulty in thinking and problem solving, loss of coordination, paranoia and anxiety that could trigger panic attacks. One study even says that your risk of a heart attack quadruples after smoking marijuana. Not to mention the prevalence of lung infections among marijuana smokers.
That was fun. Let's do Caffeine (Taken from the Wikipedia): muscle twitching, rambling flow of thought and speech, cardiac arrhythmia or tachycardia, and psychomotor agitation, restlessness, nervousness, excitement, insomnia, flushed face, diuresis, gastrointestinal complaints, frequent use can lead to tolerance and withdrawals.
Alcohol: neurotoxicity, cardiotoxicity, hepatoxicity, cirrhosis, nausea and vomiting, hypothermia, hyperthermia, respiratory failure, coma, asphyxiation, cancer, dehydration, ataxia, Wernicke encephalopathy.
powair
12-11-2005, 04:02 AM
Yes, there are risks to all drugs. I put as few drugs in my body as possible. I don't drink caffeine, even. I smoke pot maybe twice a month now. I don't take painkillers or anti-biotics unless truly needed. I don't drink excessively, I may have one mixed drink like a brown cow or eggnog and rum every once in a while. Drugs are bad for you, but it is also well known that certain drugs pose higher risks than others. If you dispute that, then you lose all credibility in my eyes.
Nullific
12-11-2005, 04:25 AM
All drugs certainly pose risks, some drugs may be 'riskier' than others but when it comes down to it the consequences resulting from the use of that drug depend greatly on personal experience. How you use the drug, how much and how often are major factors in the consequences of drug use.
It should be obvious to everybody that cocaine is addictive, almost as addictive as nicotine! My point in a previous thread was that the route of administration of substances such as cocaine also factors into the consequences resulting from its use. In this sense it is certainly not perfect, but we as users can perfect our patterns of use to minimize the consequences. Sounds to me like you're capable of doing it and other people are too.
AcidFreak
12-11-2005, 06:53 AM
I did a lot of cocaine and smoked a decent amount of cigarettes and neither were even remotely addictive to me. Maybe I'm made to do drugs :D
Esoteric416
12-11-2005, 06:59 AM
Expensive, addictive, paranoid, short high, odds of an OD are good, bad batch of coke will kill you. Serious drug dealers. Presuming you enjoy the high, how many times a day would you do it? and if your doing it on the daily....your over your head. Stick to natural stuff.
I'm not really into yayo, but that's not why I'm posting this.
MB your avatar is the shit! I love Don Hertzfeltd! :thumbsup: :D
Its a Plant
12-11-2005, 07:03 AM
cocaine's a hell of a drug
dont even mess with it if you know whats good for you. I had many friends get hooked on this shit, and its not cool. smoke weed man, coke gives you a 24X better chance to have a heart attack each time you do it.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-11-2005, 07:05 AM
the plant from which it comes, minus all added chemicals.
what is the high, what are the risks?
i am a naturalist all the way, i will do any drug that is not man made, and not immediately and potentially dangerous.
CocaCola
12-11-2005, 07:15 AM
All drugs certainly pose risks, some drugs may be 'riskier' than others but when it comes down to it the consequences resulting from the use of that drug depend greatly on personal experience. How you use the drug, how much and how often are major factors in the consequences of drug use.
It should be obvious to everybody that cocaine is addictive, almost as addictive as nicotine! My point in a previous thread was that the route of administration of substances such as cocaine also factors into the consequences resulting from its use. In this sense it is certainly not perfect, but we as users can perfect our patterns of use to minimize the consequences. Sounds to me like you're capable of doing it and other people are too.
No, THESE GUYS aren't capable... clearly. These are the type of people that would try it and end up liking it too much and will amke a habit out of it and then they turn into coke fiends and then go through a bunch of shit and com e complain about it and then they'll preach about how evil it is and how it ruined there life...and it will just go on and on. So, yeah, you dudes should not do Cocaine FOR SURE. :thumbsup:
Takatsu
12-11-2005, 12:20 PM
I'd strongly would advise you take any money for cocaine and go spend it on some good Mary-J because I hear the addiction with cocaine is unreal and leads to heavy depression etc.
This is just my advise, if you're going to do something then nothing I say will stop you.
Reefer Rogue
12-11-2005, 04:09 PM
Cocaine is to risky for me, which is why i'll never try it. I just want to stick to my safe mary jane. At least i know i can never OD on cannabis unlike other drugs.
EzRyder
12-11-2005, 05:36 PM
Coke~ No doubt this is a fun drug under the right circumstances but like youve heard it is completly over rated..the high is no where near 15/20 minutes for me at least, its not even 5 before i start feinin for another line...I quit doin it because it started havin reverse effects with me after awhile i dunno why, and my nose took a big toll... pretty much a waste of time and $ unless its on someone else...
50BagOfGreens
12-11-2005, 05:36 PM
why not try exercise, its better for you!
why not go fuck yourself in the ass, you fucking twit
lateralus
12-11-2005, 06:43 PM
drugz r bad 4 u cocan iz adurg dot do it ok
bye
Nullific
12-11-2005, 08:02 PM
the plant from which it comes, minus all added chemicals.
what is the high, what are the risks?
i am a naturalist all the way, i will do any drug that is not man made, and not immediately and potentially dangerous.
There shouldn't be any added chemicals, that is just the way the law makes it. The cocaine in erythroxylum coca is the same cocaine that is on the streets except that it is much more concentrated. It has not been synthesized but extracted from nature, such as how some people like to make extracts of marijuana called hash.
You cannot judge the dangers of a substance based soley upon whether it occurs in nature or is 'synthetic', it is much more complex than that.
Fan o KmK
12-11-2005, 08:50 PM
why not go fuck yourself in the ass, you fucking twit
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! ASJKLDADJLFA LOL!
fil lif
12-11-2005, 10:18 PM
Coke is just the champagne of the drugs world. too fuckin expensive, and tastes like shit.
daZenfmeister
12-11-2005, 10:52 PM
Then again, low dosage cocaine gum has been shown to produce a stimulation similar to having a few cups of coffee. It also appears to be safe and is not addictive.
So then have a few cups of coffee SHIT! its not illegal, its cheaper and it doesnt have that possibilty of addiction (arguable)...
CocaCola
12-11-2005, 11:00 PM
Coffee is bad for you.
Dankmike
12-11-2005, 11:06 PM
Yeah im all for organic natural drugs like Bud it's my drug, crack is whack but weed kicks ass, cocaine is stupid ive never done it but i have a friend who has a serious problem with it. Did youall know the coca cola company buys 1.5 tons of coca leaves from bolivia.
Kid Dynamite
12-11-2005, 11:08 PM
yes
Seag420
12-11-2005, 11:36 PM
cocacola's a clever lad, a really clever lad, you should all listen to him!
elroy
12-11-2005, 11:41 PM
the buzz is not worth the money or problems that come along with it. stay away from it!!!
endo..jay
12-11-2005, 11:43 PM
Coffee is bad for you.
actually in studies coffee is ok for you decaf is badd
powair
12-12-2005, 04:16 AM
I'd strongly would advise you take any money for cocaine and go spend it on some good Mary-J because I hear the addiction with cocaine is unreal and leads to heavy depression etc.
This is just my advise, if you're going to do something then nothing I say will stop you.
Ahh yes, I forget to add, cocaine depletes the brain of seratonin, sometimes permanently (after long term use). But while using, many people develop depression.
CocaCola
12-12-2005, 05:10 AM
actually in studies coffee is ok for you decaf is badd
Oh, my mistake.
Well, still bottom line, Cocaine can be very dangerousto your... well-being. If can control your use though, it can be just as safe as anything else.
lateralus
12-12-2005, 02:11 PM
Ever noticed how in all of these drug-debate threads, there are a couple people who know what they're talking about, and a whole lot of fucktards spouting bullshit they heard from a drug commercial?
Guy 1: -Very informative post with big vocab and links-
Guy 2: "No ur wrogn"
This is irrelevant, but for what it's worth, I'm the biggest coffee fiend most of you will ever know. It's absolute hell on my heart-rate, but great for conversation!
Doobie Snax
12-12-2005, 04:08 PM
Ever noticed how in all of these drug-debate threads, there are a couple people who know what they're talking about, and a whole lot of fucktards spouting bullshit they heard from a drug commercial?
Guy 1: -Very informative post with big vocab and links-
Guy 2: "No ur wrogn"
Yeh, you always get the odd dick who has never tried it before but because they've heard it's a bad drug, because it's addictive and because it fucks up your nose (like anything nasally ingested might i add) who go on about how it's evil.
Do your research:
--->
fucktards
Nullific
12-12-2005, 07:41 PM
Sure cocaine could do a whole lot of nasy shit. But in reality if you were to do some coke or even smoke some crack just to try you'll more than likely (a) live and (b) not get addicted. What's more, you may even decide coke/crack is over-rated which is the case with many people. I speak from experience.
Doobie Snax
12-12-2005, 08:04 PM
Ditto
scream
12-12-2005, 10:32 PM
i buy coke about 3 times a year. i buy and 8 ball do a little bit on the weekends...they last me about 4 weeks an 8 ball if i do it every weekend...i normally dont do it that often though, havent done it since april in fact..just dont get addicted and its fine
powair
12-12-2005, 10:48 PM
Sure cocaine could do a whole lot of nasy shit. But in reality if you were to do some coke or even smoke some crack just to try you'll more than likely (a) live and (b) not get addicted. What's more, you may even decide coke/crack is over-rated which is the case with many people. I speak from experience.
I, speaking from experience, was addicted to crack and I thought that I could just try it once. I've also seen many other people try it for their first time and become crackheads in very short periods of time. Cocaine, maybe. But crack, not as likely.
CocaCola
12-12-2005, 11:04 PM
Guy 1: -Very informative post with big vocab and links-
Guy 2: "No ur wrogn"
I LOL.
partyguy420
12-13-2005, 12:00 AM
actualy, in darrington, weed and coke cost the same. 20 bucks a gram.
Fengzi
12-13-2005, 12:25 AM
I used to do coke quite a bit but it was always an 8 ball here an 8 ball there, not regular use. It was a lot of fun and especially when going out or to a party it was a nice change from the "duh?" high of weed.
If you're strong willed and make a point of only doing it occaisionally it is pretty controllable. Even so, I woudn't advocate using it. Potential health problems aside, you can get addicted to it. I knew several guys who did it reguarly and had problems with it. One dude blew his $10k college savings on it in one summer. They had a tough time but all got their act together eventually. Unlike some of my friends who got into heroin and totally destroyed their lives.
scream
12-13-2005, 01:26 AM
ya, i agree with fengzi, i liked it but i can keep myself from becoming addicted. and the only 2 drugs that im afraid of are heroin and meth
lateralus
12-13-2005, 01:27 AM
The only one I'm apprehensive of using is meth; doesn't mean it'll stop me from 'experimenting' if I can keep my gf from beating me up.
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