miniature earth

[MaryJaneScott]

http://www.miniature-earth.com/

love...
is a
living
reality
!

[bhouncy]

I liked that. I'm a greedy bastard and that is no lie. I don't have much but what I have I tightly hold on to. That video re-framed my whole experience. I guess in some ways I'm one of the luckiest people around. I have dreams of making my millions but not just so I can sit on a lounger by my designer pool sipping freshly squeezed berry juice but so that I can add value to the world. Create jobs that spread the wealth. Many corporations add wealth and value to the world but you have to wonder why so many want so much money. After 100 million there isn't that much more you can do with money. So my point is that there has to be a revolution in the private sector. A new way of thinking that brings more people under the banner of what we would term "privileged". Make the few into the many. Compassion and love added to a whole lot of money will change the world for the better.

[bhouncy]

PS.. I guess more than a 100 million gives someone a lot of sway to change the world view through the media to instill their agenda in the population at large.

[lagstronaut]

not ignoring the other facts in that, but I was really surprised that there is the exact same ratio of men to women

[notech]

That puts a whole different perspective on things

when you look at them in that context. . . . :(

There would be no Irish left,, so i would'nt exist. . . . :eek:

Then again,, would i want to exist. . . .

Peace. . . . :thumbsup:

[Lethal G]

Wow, that completely put things into a different perspective for me. I always knew I had it better than others, even though I admit I sometimes wanted more material things. This however really made me see how well off I really am. I really enjoyed that.

[MaryJaneScott]

mmm what wonderful responses! :) :)
this video is an EYE OPENER!

LOVE!

[Gothen]

Yeah, this video is very beautifully done. Very artistic, I think, in how they represented the figures. I don't know, I think it was a very sad video, as well.

So many things I wish I could change about the world. I guess that's what makes me so weak, though. I wish for the power, but don't strive to achieve it.

[dryst]

i dunno...put in that situation...id do what i have to do to survive...

[Euphoric]

i wonder how many out of the 100 smoke weed?


edit: only 2.5% of the world population smoke cannabis. no wonder earth sucks

[dryst]

99...

[make it legal]

That music scared the shit out of me.

[souldistortion]

That music scared the shit out of me.
ahhaha

[Oneironaut]

It's stuff like this that turned me into a communist. Great find, MJS.

[souldistortion]

It's stuff like this that turned me into a communist. Great find, MJS.

communism fails

[Oneironaut]

Communism fails when you fail to establish communism. Communism is, by definition, a stateless classless society, and I think the anarchists have a much better idea how to get there than the authoritarian Leninists did. Instead of giving the wealth of society to a government bureaucracy (and thus propagating what is essentially just a state-run version of capitalism), we want to turn control of society's wealth directly into the hands of the people.

[souldistortion]

Communism fails when you fail to establish communism. Communism is, by definition, a stateless classless society, and I think the anarchists have a much better idea how to get there than the authoritarian Leninists did. Instead of giving the wealth of society to a government bureaucracy (and thus propagating what is essentially just a state-run version of capitalism), we want to turn control of society's wealth directly into the hands of the people.

ive done much reasearch on communism so please dont educate me. it fails because inside us all, we need somthing more. and it is at this point that communisms "perfect society" all comes crumbling down. every man lies, cheats steals, and wants more then his fellow man. communism is an ideal that fell out for a reason.

[Kryzco]

so i'm poor

but according to the film I'm rich

life is strange...

good vid

[Oneironaut]

ive done much reasearch on communism so please dont educate me. it fails because inside us all, we need somthing more. and it is at this point that communisms "perfect society" all comes crumbling down. every man lies, cheats steals, and wants more then his fellow man.
So...the solution is to reward the greedy? To give power to those who crave power over their fellow man? That's just crazy. The idea that the people are too stupid or too corrupt to control their own society has been embraced by every enemy of democracy throughout history.

Communism isn't about making a perfect society, no more than the abolition of slavery or the revolutions against monarchy were aimed at creating perfect societies. It's just about making society better by abolishing unjust forms of exploitation and oppression. Communism is firmly grounded in materialism, not utopianism.

[make it legal]

I think that communism would work if humans could learn to be that way. But the thing is that humans naturally are the way we are now. People want more for doing more. The idea that everybody contributes to society in some form no matter what they get is great, but humans will never think that way. I dont think what we are doing now is rewarding the greedy, but we are just using a system that works the most with the type of society we have now. It's better to have a system that works for the society we have now then to use one that forces humans to think in a way that is not natural. I also do not think that wanting to have more is greedy, it is also just a natural thing. Again, I am not against communism, in fact, I think it is a great idea, but i understand it could never work.

[Oneironaut]

You're right that a communist society could not function with the type of mindset the average person in our capitalist culture has. Changing that mindset is one of the principal challenges of the revolution. Nevertheless, the idea that humans are naturally greedy is a myth that happens to flourish because we live in a society that glorifies consumerism and gaining wealth (the so-called "American Dream" which is just that, a dream). People have been culturally indoctrinated into the idea that having more money and more stuff is not only great, but perhaps the main goal in life.

This all needs to change. But cultures change, societies change, ideas change, economies change. Communists are just trying to map out what direction we should be changing in. We want a society where wealth isn't concentrated into the hands of an elite few, where children don't have to grow up starving and homeless because their parents are poor, where workplaces can be controlled democratically instead of in totalitarian top-down hierarchies, and where the idea of a successful life isn't owning the best shit on the block but rather real meaningful activity.

[souldistortion]

I think that communism would work if humans could learn to be that way. But the thing is that humans naturally are the way we are now. People want more for doing more. The idea that everybody contributes to society in some form no matter what they get is great, but humans will never think that way.

my thoughts exactly, communism makes wrong assumptions on the nature of the human mind. hence its failure long long ago, and hence the rebirth of a new system of power that works. (by work, i mean operate, yes it has its flaws but its stable, unlike communism which collapsed, due to the nature of humans)

[Oneironaut]

When has there ever been a communist society?

[souldistortion]

When has there ever been a communist society?

you know what, i can save a lot of energy by just giving you links

http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/What_was_the_reason_for_the_failure_of_communism

there's the only link you'll really ever need. and as i pointed out, communism fails to account for human nature. Read that article in its ENTIRETY. start to finish and give it a fair chance. the toughest things to crack are our worldviews because of how close we hold them to our heart, I hate inconvenient truths as well so I don't blame you.

[bhouncy]

I have my own ideas. Maybe someone has written about these before. I believe in free market capitalism with a cap. Share holders would only be able to say have a maximum of 10% of the shares of a company. This way the wealth is spread more evenly. I believe in the free market because it perpetuates innovation. I'm a technology freak and the rapid increase and betterment of technology makes life easier. A king from the 15th century would look at the way we live and think we are gods. I'm not that well read in the art of politics so rip apart my ideas to help me learn more.

[souldistortion]

I have my own ideas. Maybe someone has written about these before. I believe in free market capitalism with a cap. Share holders would only be able to say have a maximum of 10% of the shares of a company. This way the wealth is spread more evenly. I believe in the free market because it perpetuates innovation. I'm a technology freak and the rapid increase and betterment of technology makes life easier. A king from the 15th century would look at the way we live and think we are gods. I'm not that well read in the art of politics so rip apart my ideas to help me learn more.

i wont rip apart your ideas but i will say you're pretty politically well grounded in your belief in free market capitalism for someone claiming not to be too politically inclined

[bhouncy]

i wont rip apart your ideas but i will say you're pretty politically well grounded in your belief in free market capitalism for someone claiming not to be too politically inclined

I have a habit of reading the first few paragraphs of many subjects then my imagination kicks in and sometimes and I have the illusion of knowing what the whole book is about.

[souldistortion]

are you sure you're not a savant haha. either that or you're that little boy from mercury rising all growned up. I am pollitically grounded myself and I can't even speak on MY own views. I probably could given the time, but truth be told I dont keep track of what i believe, do i need to? its alwasy gonna be there. just debate me and you'll find out what i believe real quickly

[dryst]

ive done much reasearch on communism so please dont educate me. it fails because inside us all, we need somthing more. and it is at this point that communisms "perfect society" all comes crumbling down. every man lies, cheats steals, and wants more then his fellow man. communism is an ideal that fell out for a reason.

fear can alter a mans list of priorties...

[bhouncy]

are you sure you're not a savant haha. either that or you're that little boy from mercury rising all growned up. I am pollitically grounded myself and I can't even speak on MY own views. I probably could given the time, but truth be told I dont keep track of what i believe, do i need to? its alwasy gonna be there. just debate me and you'll find out what i believe real quickly

I do a lot of writing. I take an idea that I have read and expand it by paraphrasing and adding my own spin. Ideas can become reality when enough people believe in them. I just look at the idea from many angles and others who read shall then have their own angles to add to the mix. Politics to me is just a passing interest. I prefer psychology and to a lesser extent philosophy. Socrates said "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." My interpretation of this is that knowledge is infinite and what we know is equivalent to nothing. This to me means that there is always something to learn. I may know "everything" on a subject but in reality I know nothing.