Pot linked with 'anti-social' behavior? [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

chris420

09-09-2006, 09:48 PM

I have noticed that many people on this board say they smoke alone most of the time, so I was wondering what you thought about pot being the cause that most of us like to spend more time alone. Personally, when Im high I get pretty paranoid when Im in public places like the mall, police station, etc. I think its sober people who I fear the most lol. I dont necessarily call myself an antisocial but I think I might qualify as one. Im better off alone than with a bunch of stupid people tainting my collective unconscious.
Peace:rasta:

cole

09-09-2006, 09:52 PM

when do you go to the polkice station, and when do you go high, your crazy man, and im anti social because i dont like lots of people they arnt interesting

Cheery Cherry

09-09-2006, 09:55 PM

I do enjoy smoking alone sometimes but most of the time, I like to smoke with someone. I only get paranoid going outside stoned when I see someone from work. Dealing with strangers while stoned doesn't bother me much.

chris420

09-09-2006, 09:59 PM

The police station was only an example, I would never in my right frame of mind go to a police station high unless they were giving out free food or something, which would be to surreal to happen.

orangeman

09-09-2006, 10:09 PM

No pot isnt link to anti-social behavior. I'm even more social when I'm high so that'd be impossible :p.

chris420

09-09-2006, 10:13 PM

But I'm sure you become much more social only with those people who you would like to socialize with, not everyone, am i right?

orangeman

09-09-2006, 10:14 PM

But I'm sure you become much more social only with those people who you would like to socialize with, not everyone, am i right?

No...actually if I see them and I want to talk to them I just come out of the blue and talk to them. It's just unexplainable. Marijuana is just the best shit ever, thats all I can say :p..other than it doesnt cause anti-social behavior.

chris420

09-09-2006, 10:19 PM

There are then more ''social'' strains than others. You must be smoking some red bull sativa lol

orangeman

09-09-2006, 10:23 PM

There are then more ''social'' strains than others. You must be smoking some red bull sativa lol

I dunno what it was but it made me feel like I was floating. I couldnt even fell my legs walking and if I didnt look at my shoes I would've sworn I was floating in the halls and omfg it was crazy lol.

cole

09-09-2006, 10:24 PM

Pot is linked with anti-social behavior because people that smoke it start to realise what a fuck-up society is.

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Cheery Cherry

09-09-2006, 10:25 PM

chris420

09-09-2006, 10:25 PM

sweet, what strain are you smoking?

orangeman

09-09-2006, 10:26 PM

My boyfriend and several of his friends can smoke first thing in the morning (not together), go to work, and deal with total strangers. I do see them more sociable while high. In fact, now that you made me think about it, I have never met anyone who were anti-social while smoking. Most of my friends like to smoke before going out socializing.

Exactly what I was saying lol. If you really think about I think most people are anti-social in the first place is because they make themselves like that. They think too much of themselves and have no self esteem. Well when your high your so...how can I put this, "clueless" that you dont have time to think about anything :p.

Cas

09-09-2006, 10:32 PM

being a loner or not being very social isn't the same as anti-social. anti-social is a personality disorder defined by:
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
reckless disregard for safety of self or others
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
The manual lists the following additional necessary criteria:

The individual is at least age 18 years.
There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.

now i'm an introverted personality type, i'm secluded and reserved. does this mean i'm anti-social? not at all.

chris420

09-09-2006, 10:43 PM

Yeah definitely. I made a mistake in naming the thread but consider that definition relative to psychology and sociology, becuase the term anti-social has been flipped over by pop culture with their narcisism.

budzy malone

09-09-2006, 10:44 PM

I smoked stinky ass shit this after noon. I could smell it from a yard away. It was some gooey, funky, lala dank. I'm not sure. Sort of a headache but thats all. It usually makes me feel really goooood but now I remember I bumped my head against the lower branches of bonsai tree.
I don't think its anti-social it just makes me want to come and play and be very silly, gooey itchy go away you pest. But I want to keep it to me my self.
prett good paly, you know in Rome, we do something that the _______do, I don't give a fuck if ya irish at all. But if you got missing BUba ass teetch its better for suckin in some mighty mighty ganja sticky kind. Jah Rastafari:pimp:

Gothen

09-09-2006, 11:06 PM

Man, I've noticed that the only reason why I smoke mostly alone now is because almost all of my friends have moved about 40 miles away to start college and stuff so I have no one to smoke with.

I love smoking with people and I LOOOOVE going out when I'm high. When I'm high, I realize how completely beautiful the world is around me, and I love to be out and about.

It's when I'm sober that I have the mindset of, "Let's just stay in the house and not talk to anyone." Because I suffer from clinical depression, and I also have reclusive, anti-social tendencies. Being high or smoking takes those tendencies away, and I become very, very social and I want to be out meeting people and seeing the world.

THC is the most wonderful drug I've ever experienced.

But, that isn't to say I don't love to just sit on my balcony at 1 or 2 in the morning and have a quiet smoke all to myself, ya know? Sometimes we just NEED to be able to sit back and smoke and think or enjoy some music, I think.

UMrocksmysocks

09-09-2006, 11:16 PM

Pot is linked with anti-social behavior because people that smoke it start to realise what a fuck-up society is.

hell ya, or when i get really high and go to work ,sometimes everyone seems so fake in saying hello to one another-i sit there predicting reactions in my head during others conversations and it makes some seem fucked up

Frivolous248

09-09-2006, 11:20 PM

I was a loner before I started tokin'.

cuziwashigh420

09-09-2006, 11:24 PM

Its kinda liek a roller coaster for me.. when I first started smoking I only smoked a little bit with my friends. Then when i started to smoke more I only smoked alone. Now I get stoned just about everyday and i LOVE to go out and do stuff when im baked. It makes everything so much more exciting. :D

think green

09-09-2006, 11:38 PM

I'm an antisocial introvert without weed, most of the time when I do manage to get out of the house it's because of weed.

dejayou30

09-10-2006, 12:08 AM

i love getting stoned and talking to people at parties and such, but during the days i don't really like to go out of the house stoned unless i'm in another town or something. i'm always afraid i'll run into my boss or someone i know and have to have some stupid small talk conversation with them.

orangeman

09-10-2006, 12:50 AM

It's when I'm sober that I have the mindset of, "Let's just stay in the house and not talk to anyone." Because I suffer from clinical depression, and I also have reclusive, anti-social tendencies. Being high or smoking takes those tendencies away, and I become very, very social and I want to be out meeting people and seeing the world.

THC is the most wonderful drug I've ever experienced.

But, that isn't to say I don't love to just sit on my balcony at 1 or 2 in the morning and have a quiet smoke all to myself, ya know? Sometimes we just NEED to be able to sit back and smoke and think or enjoy some music, I think.

I'm exactly like that lol. I mean 100%.

Frivolous248

09-10-2006, 01:08 AM

Yeah, I always feel like doing something when I'm high, but I really don't have a single friend to hang out with really, just one person I hang out with occasionally, and others I see in school. So unfortunately I just sit at home and do nothing when I get high, 'cept when I smoke at lunch time in school and before school another time.

ZeBraStrIpes

12-14-2007, 02:50 AM

i get anti-social when i smoke certain bud, especially around random people, but i like being around people i know. Drinking alcohol reverses the effect so i so the opposite. Smoking makes me sit back and observe what people do (kinda changes my perspective on things). But if i smoke with someone i dont know, i act like ive known them my whole life...

crudemood

12-14-2007, 02:57 AM

CanaDanKs Inc.

12-14-2007, 03:00 AM

You know with time.. I have noticed that most people that smoke weed are happier being by themselves, or with close friends. I can't talk for everybody, but I have known many many many stoners who, during the peak of their high, would not go to a social event because of some sort of paranoia. At first, it seems to start like people are paranoid of the fact that other people will judge them for being high...but then with time, as consumption amounts grow rapidly, users tend to feel 'paranoid', or too self-conscious perhaps.. and feel like evading the crowds and such.

Sometimes I feel like I can pick up people's "energy" or "vibe".. a LOT more when I'm high. It's like my mind subconsciously scans for moods and states of minds in people to make sure things are always ok? Who knows why really.. It just happens that way.. I think people are more receptive and suceptible when high sometimes.. But then sometimes not. So go figure. :jointsmile:

Innominate

12-14-2007, 03:06 AM

If you are capable, find the motives to your anti/anxiety of social matters. When you know it, smoke and think about why you are the way you are, think about how you can change yourself, because change is the only way to progress.

There is no sin in pulling away from people. I've been around people my whole life. The present day people of our world are not exactly safe beings, they are confused, frustrated, and very emotional. I do not blame you for this state of mind.I've learned, motivated, and understood more about everything with myself than I could by being around other people. I enjoy going to the mall, seeing people, and doing regular things, unfortunately I've had lame friends, some better than others, but there is more to life than friendship, always.

Understand you cannot live WITHOUT other people.

Purple Banana

12-14-2007, 03:14 AM

I have Asperger's syndrome, and one of the major challenges I face every day is 'proper' social interaction. I have a large amount of difficulty with maintaining eye contact, holding small conversations, and generally trying not to act socially awkward. I've always been like this. But now I smoke, and I realize I need to force myself to open up a bit more; pot has helped me do that without too much difficulty.

Markass

12-14-2007, 03:23 AM

I wouldn't say anti-social...I merely decide which people I want to hang out with and which I don't...I go to work high, school high, and anywhere else I'm pretty much high...I do everything in my daily life just as I would if I weren't smoking pot..well I probably would watch tv rather than listen to music when I'm chilling if I were sober...but usually I'm not sober so I enjoy the sound of music :stoned:

Purple Banana

12-14-2007, 04:06 AM

Yeah, I love going through my day slightly stoned- just enough so it's just a perceptual change. It makes me feel great, and alive and I want to go out there and keep on livin'!

peacefrog14

12-14-2007, 05:05 AM

i like smoking with my friends cuz its more fun and most the time we smoke his weed! but that is ok cuz he is my dealer and he always has lots of weed. i usually smoke my weed with myself, not to be selfish, but i learned about 4 years ago i used to smoke everybody up for free all the time and i was always paying. we were always in my car too, so i had to pay for gas most of the time. so i stopped doing that when i realized that one of my friends didnt hang out with me if i didnt have weed, and how much money i was spending a week on weed.

RUTBpiping

12-14-2007, 01:01 PM

Pot is linked with anti-social behavior because people that smoke it start to realise what a fuck-up society is.

Hahaha i realised that a long time ago without pot.

I have Asperger's syndrome, and one of the major challenges I face every day is 'proper' social interaction. I have a large amount of difficulty with maintaining eye contact, holding small conversations, and generally trying not to act socially awkward. I've always been like this. But now I smoke, and I realize I need to force myself to open up a bit more; pot has helped me do that without too much difficulty.

Ahhh a fellow aspie stoner. :thumbsup: I would say that im alot more sociable when im stoned. :)

LIP

12-14-2007, 01:06 PM

The euphoric feeling from cannabis is an amazing thing. I cant begin to describe it. I find it abit like alcohol - gets rid of any inhibitions and i can be free and talk to everyone about anything without feeling embarrased or cautious - not always a good thing to others, but to me it is.

Cannabis is certainly not anti-social.

RUTBpiping

12-14-2007, 01:08 PM

Reefer Rogue

12-14-2007, 01:11 PM

Anti social people may smoke cannabis but it doesn't necessarily link. I will say when i'm high sometimes i'm lost in my thoughts and get quiet, i also prefer to smoke alone because i smoke it pure. I definately prefer to hang out with people who blaze.

LIP

12-14-2007, 01:13 PM

Damn straight. :thumbsup: I have made friends met new people etc etc thanks to weed. :)

I have also. People that i probably wouldnt have even given the time of day - but as soon as 2 people know they both smoke weed it's an automactic friendship - allies.
The whole cannabis culture is part of it too.

Simply, EVERYTHING that cannabis does, and everything to do with cannabis is fun, relaxing and damn enjoyable.

I really cant describe it. It's like love. Un-describable, but a fucking beautiful thing when it happens.

I think people who become "addicted" to weed are more addicted to the eupohia is gives. And really, who wouldnt? Who wouldnt want to feel inner peace, contentment and true happiness all the time?

Most people would think im addicted because i smoke so much, and every day. BUT, if i chose to stop, i could. I just dont want to - i enjoy it too much and it's part of my life. A part that i wouldnt change for anyone. It doesnt cause problems - so why bother? Might as well live a happy worthwhile life! :D:D:D :rastasmoke:

poseidon

12-14-2007, 07:21 PM

Another thing is that the whole idea of 'psychedelia' is abstract, When I'm stoned, I usually think of things that Others would never understand, you know, they're too abstract and too subjective..

poseidon

12-14-2007, 07:24 PM

i enjoy it too much and it's part of my life. A part that i wouldnt change for anyone. It doesnt cause problems - so why bother? Might as well live a happy worthwhile life! :D:D:D :rastasmoke:

exactly, I never robbed anyone, never killed anyone, never lost a job a friend or anything.. I just laugh about my day, thinking and going through things calmly.

LIP

12-14-2007, 08:26 PM

Another thing is that the whole idea of 'psychedelia' is abstract, When I'm stoned, I usually think of things that Others would never understand, you know, they're too abstract and too subjective..

That's a good point. As cannabis smokers we see things, and KNOW things that non smokers would never understand. That gives us the upper hand. We're better people, we're in the right and we're a damn site smarter [we educate ourselves with fact, instead of letting someone else educate us with lies.]

Purple Banana

12-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Ahhh a fellow aspie stoner. :thumbsup: I would say that im alot more sociable when im stoned. :)

Same! I was misdiagnosed for a year or two, and just got an Aspie diagnosis this fall. It was kind of a relief 'cause the other diagnosis was pretty serious.

I like talking with people when stoned, otherwise if they've got a certain type of personality and I don't know them, small talk can be painful.

RUTBpiping

12-15-2007, 05:24 AM

Same! I was misdiagnosed for a year or two, and just got an Aspie diagnosis this fall. It was kind of a relief 'cause the other diagnosis was pretty serious.

I like talking with people when stoned, otherwise if they've got a certain type of personality and I don't know them, small talk can be painful.

I was diagnosed when i was 14 (i'm now 18) before that i got diagnosed with ADHD.

Heh yeah small talk with people can be painful but when your stoned you dont care!. :thumbsup:

Dr Frylock

12-15-2007, 08:55 AM

im anti social because most people dont have the same interest as i do. plus when im high i would rather chill than be out getting in trouble. But i usually get high with friends then chill and play basketball or something

poseidon

12-15-2007, 07:20 PM

That's a good point. As cannabis smokers we see things, and KNOW things that non smokers would never understand. That gives us the upper hand. We're better people, we're in the right and we're a damn site smarter [we educate ourselves with fact, instead of letting someone else educate us with lies.]

Yes, but those things aren't objective to all cannabis users. Its not necessary that a stoner 'will' get my drug induced thoughts and a sober guy wont.. But the guy that smokes cannabis will probaly have a better idea of the information.. What you're talking about is a person that uses drugs intelligently.. I mean, junkies...People that don't understand 'how' to use a drug, but still do it.. I know alot of cannabis 'junkies' who have wasted a good part of their lives because of marijuana, not that marijuana had anything to do with it..But you have to understand how a substance effects you and that the way you choose to deal with it is solid.

poseidon

12-15-2007, 07:37 PM

maybe its the passive/calmness marijuana promotes that probably seem anti-social. Then again, if you smoke weed and you leave a gathering because it sucks.. chances are people are going to blame the Pot and not you.. maybe because you realize that explaining 'why' you left isn't worth the fucking effort.. who knows..

farmgirl

12-15-2007, 08:32 PM

i would have to agree with unitedwefall theroy,the more one smokes the more you realize how twisted socity is.one tends to think how much better they are by themselves.

Drag187

12-15-2007, 10:28 PM

I have social anxiety, and im really quiet in public and around large groups of people. When im high though, that all goes away and i loosen up. On the other hand, i smoke alone most of the time....quite the quandry.

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12-17-2007, 08:31 AM

during the senior year of high school, i managed to get a college girlfriend. after i graduated, the whole summer was my gf and i going to random people's apartments, houses, cars, parties, dinners, and other social gatherings. so i disagree with the theory that weed and anti-social behavior is linked.

however, i do think that the reason you bring it up is because a lot of pot smokers like to get high alone on occasion, including me. it's so relaxing and stress relieving. sometimes, coming home from a hard day of college lectures and textbook reading, a nice joint with some excellent music helps me get through the day :jointsmile: (and don't forget the munchies).