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Great Spirit
09-06-2006, 08:03 PM
Lol...Hitler...I mean Bush finally cracks! We all knew what was going on before he made it public. Reminiscient of Nazi death camps man. Afterall, what Bush is doing is totally illegal under the Constitution, by him holding "terror" suspects without charge or due process. But wait...Bush said the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper right?

I smell a new attack coming! As Alex Jones said, should happen no later than October this year.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5321606.stm


President Bush has acknowledged the existence of secret CIA prisons and said 14 key terrorist suspects have now been sent to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The suspects, who include the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, have now been moved out of CIA custody and will face trial.

Mr Bush said the CIA's interrogation programme had been "vital" in saving lives, but denied the use of torture.

He said all suspects will be afforded protection under the Geneva Convention.

In a televised address alongside families of those killed in the 11 September 2001 attacks, Mr Bush said there were now no terrorist suspects under the CIA programme.

Mr Bush said he was making a limited disclosure of the CIA programme because interrogation of the men it held was now complete and because a US Supreme Court decision had stopped the use of military commissions for trials.

He said the CIA programme had interrogated a small number of key figures suspected of involvement in 9/11, the attack on the USS Cole in 2000 in Yemen and the 1998 attacks on US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

Mr Bush spelled out how the questioning of detainee Abu Zubaydah had led to the capture of Ramzi Binalshibh, which in turn led to the detention of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Mr Bush said the CIA had used an "alternative set of procedures", agreed with the justice department, once suspects had stopped talking.

But he said: "The US does not torture. I have not authorised it and I will not."

He said the questioning methods had prevented attacks inside the US and saved US lives.

"This programme has helped us to take potential mass murderers off the streets before they have a chance to kill," the president said.

The CIA programme had caused some friction with European allies. Some EU lawmakers said the CIA carried out clandestine flights to transport terror suspects.

Revised guidelines

Mr Bush said he was asking Congress to authorise military commissions and once that was done "the men our intelligence officials believe orchestrated the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans on September 11 2001 can face justice".

All suspects will now be treated under new guidelines issued by the Pentagon on Wednesday, which bring all military detainees under the protection of the Geneva Convention.

The move marks a reversal in policy for the Pentagon, which previously argued that many detainees were unlawful combatants who did not qualify for such protections.

The new guidelines forbid all torture, the use of dogs to intimidate prisoners, water boarding - the practice of submerging prisoners in water - any kind of sexual humiliation, and many other interrogation techniques.

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says that in one stroke the Pentagon is moving to defuse all criticism of the way it treats the people it has captured in its war against terrorism.

The US administration has faced criticism from legal experts and human rights activists over the policy on detentions of terrorism suspects.

Mr Bush also said he was asking Congress to pass urgent legislation to clarify the terms under which those fighting the war on terror could operate.

He said the laws must make it explicit that US personnel were fulfilling their obligations under the Geneva Convention.

Mr Bush said those questioning suspected terrorists must be able to use everything under the law to save US lives.

Bong30
09-06-2006, 10:53 PM
You are right we should have just killed them.. and said nothing.



why do you think he let it out now? cause he has nothing to hide.


He isnt doing enough in my book......

Breukelen advocaat
09-06-2006, 11:51 PM
You are right we should have just killed them.. and said nothing.
why do you think he let it out now? cause he has nothing to hide.
He isnt doing enough in my book......


Bush should have dropped a few nukes on the hills and mountains of Afghanistan the day after 9/11, made a special world TV appearance to deny responsibility, condemn those responsible, and assure the world that we won't rest until we find out who did it. :thumbsup:

The rational people of the world must get with the program. If we are to understand how to deal with these subhuman murderers we call terrorists, the first thing that we need to do is learn how to out-crazy them

I don't particularly give a fuck about the opinion that to do this is tantamount to embracing the same values as the enemy. To not fight back harder is asking for defeat - by psychopaths. The only way to stop this craziness is to use very harsh methods of punishment.

Ozarks
09-07-2006, 01:22 AM
I smell a new attack coming! As Alex Jones said, should happen no later than October this year.


That's the one thing you've posted that is possible, if the terrorists hit us again before the elections, it will because they believe that like in the Spain attack, an attack will drive (in America's case) more Americans to vote for Democrats.

Which will view the Killers as a "law enforcement matter" not a "military matter"

Of course the terrorists don't realize that the American voter will react just the opposite of that, which will help the Republicans.

So if we are hit again before the 06 elections, it will be one of,if not thee biggest miscalculation made by the killers since OBL though America wouldn't fight after 9-11 20001. Of course you and Alex Jones won't have a clue, you'll be running around yelling conspiracy, conspiracy, but some of us will understand exactly what's going on.

Great Spirit
09-07-2006, 01:44 AM
Lol....you dumbasses can believe all you want that 19 "freedom hating Muslims" hijacked airplanes with boxcutters and crashed them. It just doesn't add up. Tell your bosses I said hi and to go fuck themselves!

I smell fascism!!!!!! :dance:

Bong30
09-07-2006, 02:00 AM
Lol....you dumbasses can believe all you want that 19 "freedom hating Muslims" hijacked airplanes with boxcutters and crashed them. It just doesn't add up. Tell your bosses I said hi and to go fuck themselves!

I smell fascism!!!!!! :dance:
here ya go GS


I smell ....islamofascism.....kinda like camel shit.

Ozarks
09-07-2006, 03:10 AM
Mr Bush said he was asking Congress to authorise military commissions and once that was done "the men our intelligence officials believe orchestrated the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans on September 11 2001 can face justice".




After Congress authorizes these Commissioners the military Tribunals will be a matter of public record, in military tribunals the accused has right to testify.

Many of these killers are committed Jihadists and are going to openly, freely and proudly admit to what they have done.

GS, when that happens you and the rest of the conspiracy friends are to be put into the position of saying "their lying, they are part of the conspiracy" and "covering up" for Bush and the Government. I can hear it now Those Muslims are all liars, they're innocent" I can hardly wait. :D

ronnie2j2
09-07-2006, 03:16 AM
The sad thing is that he's not even trying to hide his crimes anymore, I guess he and the U.S. government are now openly above the law !!!!!!!!!!!!

pisshead
09-07-2006, 03:36 AM
yeah, and one of bush's legal advisers openly said they can torture children and crush their genitals, and that's perfectly acceptable to protect our freedom. i posted it here already, i think his name is john yoo...a google search will find it.

but it's liberal to be against torturing children. i'm also pro-property rights and against local governments stealing peoples' property and not compensating them, pro-2nd amendment and pro-repealing all gun laws, anti-big government, against the unelected and unaccountable UN, against NAFTA and GATT and the FTAA, against the wide open borders ignoring all previous methods of allowing immigrants into the country, against paying tolls to foreign companies for roads that are already paid for, against welfare of most kinds; namely corporate and foreign, against the unconstitutional wealth/property stealing federal reserve's fiat currency system that is deliberately designed to inflate and eventually destroy a country's economy...i could go on and on...

that used to be conservative, but now i'm a liberal because of this. big government neo-cons can't understand the doublethink, they just accept the fact that the defintions of words change and then change back.

of course there is no left and right...but people can't even comprehend a world without left and right...i don't remember seeing that in the constitution. we elect people to represent us to run THIS country, not other countries. the country is the opposite of what it was supposed to be...a constitutional republic with a limited federal government and states' rights...i wonder how many people have even read the constitution or bill of rights...

but i'm also considered a likely terrorist for even mentioning the constitution. how liberal of me.

Breukelen advocaat
09-07-2006, 03:49 AM
The sad thing is that he's not even trying to hide his crimes anymore, I guess he and the U.S. government are now openly above the law !!!!!!!!!!!!

No, the Taliban and Al Quaeda that were captured are beneath the law. They are beneath human sympathy. They are capable of the murder of innocent people for their religion. Maybe some of the information from them helped us stop their plans. They should have been killed in their own habitat, but at least there haven't been any attacks on U.S. soil in almost 5 years.

WalkaWalka
09-07-2006, 10:44 PM
Someday you will be below mercy or human sympathy.

Breukelen advocaat
09-07-2006, 10:49 PM
Just keep in mind that if there is another attack on our soil by these scumdogs, their people over here are going to pay. Big time. :)

Euphoric
09-08-2006, 12:05 AM
I CAN DEFINATELY TELL WHO WATCHES FOX NEWS AROUND HERE.



but seriously, who knows what else they could be hiding..

Bong30
09-08-2006, 01:12 AM
Just keep in mind that if there is another attack on our soil by these scumdogs, their people over here are going to pay. Big time. :)

When the highway down the street from my house was closed from some JIHAD asshole killing people... I was ready to round them up Concetration camp style............... Then we round up all the American Hating commie pussies.... and put them in there too. Then lets deport there asses.. and seal up the border.....Ahhh home sweet home...

Just ask the BIG MAN......LOL i have to check how his vegas trip was BA.


P.S. type....Muslim safeway shooting........see what you get.?

ronjohn420
09-08-2006, 02:07 AM
When the highway down the street from my house was closed from some JIHAD asshole killing people... I was ready to round them up Concetration camp style............... Then we round up all the American Hating commie pussies.... and put them in there too. Then lets deport there asses.. and seal up the border.....Ahhh home sweet home...

Just ask the BIG MAN......LOL i have to check how his vegas trip was BA.


P.S. type....Muslim safeway shooting........see what you get.?

oh yeah, go ahead hitler.. round all of them up along with the "American Hating commie pussies" and put everyone in gas chambers while your at it

what a butthole:thumbsup:

Bong30
09-08-2006, 02:45 AM
oh yeah, go ahead hitler.. round all of them up along with the "American Hating commie pussies" and put everyone in gas chambers while your at it

what a butthole:thumbsup:


I didnt say gas chamber..... Deport your ass....


where you want to go? switzerland? Holland? Canada? ( they need the people) Great places, you dont have to die.. just get the fuck out......:thumbsup:


Or love america, and just keep voting till we get people in there that will do the will of the people...not special interest.

Seams easy....... Any person Muslim, radical skin heads.....what ever... Makes plans to kill americans.... kills americans.....Trial.. and shot.

HEY RON... I dont do PC.

dopesmoker
09-08-2006, 03:06 AM
You hate anyone that doesn't share your political views and you have ideas for a "perfect country" similar to hitler's. Seems your view is rather close to that of a Nazi or Terrorist. Seems you're no better then them.

Bong30
09-08-2006, 03:16 AM
You hate anyone that doesn't share your political views and you have ideas for a "perfect country" similar to hitler's. Seems your view is rather close to that of a Nazi or Terrorist. Seems you're no better then them.

I am done with the bullshit...

see up there where it says TRIAL?


HEY dope... I dont want to be MUSLIM... get it?


And I think the America hating commie pussies should go cause........


lets put it this way.... if you have a new good kid in a class and New bad kid....


They bolth become BAD

.........American Hating commie Pussiea are a fucking cancer to the USA and all that we need to do.... to fix it and make it they best It can be, not Big goverment for special interest bullshit....Just stand there and yell I HATE AMERIKA... that helps......NO.......... GET THE FUCK OUT

Fengzi
09-08-2006, 04:10 PM
Or love america, and just keep voting till we get people in there that will do the will of the people...not special interest.

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Now I'm confused Bong, I thought you liked Dubya :confused:

Anyhow, while I still think Bush is a sneaky, lying bastard that should be impeached for numerous reasons, I don't agree that we need to coddle these Al Qaeda fucks who would gladly kill as many Americans as possible if only they were let out of these prisons.

I see too many people let their (well placed) hatred of Bush cloud their judgement. " Don't insult their religion", "make sure they all have a copy of the Koran", " make sure they have more comforts after they've been caught than if they were running around the fucking desert", "if we don't formally charge we should let them go","whine, whine, cry, cry". Wake up people, your worrying about the rights of the same people who would capture, torture, rape and behead your mother, then put the video out on Al Jezeera for no other reason other than she had an American passport in her pocket when she was walking down the wrong street while trying to bring food to wounded Iraqi children.