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RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 12:37 AM
Okies, I have a serious problem at the mo, and wondered if anyone couldhelp.

The thing is, I've totally lost my appetite...completely.

I am quite slim anyway, and losing weight would be a bad thing for me - as a general guide, I am 6' 4" and weigh approx 10.5 stone!

I'm not the greatest eater anyway, but lately I am struggling to eat even the stuff I like!

Is there something that I could buy from the chemist, or summat, that would help to get my appitite back, or am I suffering from some kind of illness?
I aint been to the doctor (yet), because I suspect that this is depression related (I don't wanna be a pill-popper lol).

Any thoughts?
Cheers
Res...

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
10-20-2004, 12:47 AM
lol SMOKE A NICE BIG BLUNT that will get u hungry lol ive noticed lately smae thing for me too actually well not so much as lost my appitete but i only eat a lil and im alrdy full im 5'6 and 140 lbs

RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 01:03 AM
lol, Penguin - if I smoked any more than I already do, then I would not be able to function at all - believe lmaooo

Maybe I should see the doctor.
I mean, I feel hungry, but can't eat...I start eating something, then get 'bored' with it, or summat...fuck knows - I'm sat here now, and my stomach is rumbling like a rumbly thing..but if I get summat to eat, I won't eat it...not all of it, anyway...ie, bowl of cereal will only have a few mouthfuls...

Maybe I should just let myself die, that'd be cool...lol...at least all my pain would disappear...

..sorry, manic-depressive here...

GHoSToKeR
10-20-2004, 02:06 AM
I wouldnt advise you to go and pump yourself full of chemicals.. Thats everyones answer to everythign these days - stress, depression, hyperactivity, headaches, pain, sleeplessness, etc etc - when the problem can usually be cured more naturally.. my advice is this - take a look back at the last few weeks, and try and see what changes my have occured in your life that may coincide with your loss of appetite. It may be anything - changing your daily routine, changing your excercise routine, somethigns upsetting you, etc.. then when/if you figure out what it is, do somethiong about it.. if not, then go to your doctor, but he'll probably ask you the same thing I just asked you.. THEN, if all else fails, pump yourself full of prescription pills lol

IntrepidS
10-20-2004, 02:15 AM
I think you know the answer resinate -- smoke a lot of weed and watch the food go pouring in. If that hasn't helped you then I don't know what will. Honestly, I think weed is the best solution for people who don't eat.

Bro DZ
10-20-2004, 02:29 AM
i think Res really knows whats up... Either he's bull shitting us or he has a serious mental issue. Sorry dude but you just gotta eat even if you don't want to! Its just one of those things ya can't live without. Maybe you should see a doctor cause you probably need atleast therapy or acupuncture er something LoL peace man

Sinsemilla Jones
10-20-2004, 03:24 AM
It's hard to get enthused about anything when you're depressed.

I smoke pot for depression, but sometimes pot can have the opposite effect from the munchies. I have the bad habit of drinking coffee, smoking cigs, and hopefully (usually, but not lately) smoking pot, and going without food for hours after I first get up, and usually can't make myself eat much till much later.

Of course, the cigs aren't good for appetite. Do you smoke?
Coffee and other stimulants aren't good either.
And too much pot might be a detriment to eating.
Other drugs can hurt your appetite, too.

The big problem with not eating is that it becomes a habit, and your body gets used to it. Try your best to make yourself go ahead and eat. Find something that you really like, and something easy and basic so you don't have to use a lot of effort to fix and cook it. I eat a lot of cheese and bread. I don't put anything else on it, just grab a slice of cheese, 2 slices of bread, and chow down.

Maybe cut back a little on the pot, or make yourself go ahead and eat something before you toke. If you smoke cigs, try to quit or cut down, and you'll probably want to eat to replace the oral fixation and nicotine craving.
If you drink coffee, tea, or othe caffenated drinks, try to cut back.

And take vitamins, particularly B complex, C, and a multi now and then. Down em with some milk, or chocolate milk, or a milk shake. Milk's a great way to drink a little food. A little exercise can help, too. Just a little walk around the hood.

If you still can't eat, and are still depressed, go see a doc, but maybe try a little talk therapy before hitting the pills. See a psychologist (they talk) not a phsychiatrist (they give pills, electro shock, lobotomies, etc.) I'm like you, I don't want to be on some weird chem, and I've avoided anti-deps for over 20 years by using pot. But some folks swear by them, and if nothing else works, they're probably better than dying.

How much is a stone in pounds? (Sorry, ignorant American here.)

Anyway, good luck! And let us know how it goes.

geoffrowley19
10-20-2004, 03:31 AM
shit i love the boards here, people are usually really sincere and give good anwsers to questions! just thought id let you guyz kno...anddddd the same thing is with me sorta.. i usually am only hungry when i smoke now unless i skate a lot that day then i get hungry, but usually im only like hungry if i have the munchies...

apsinthion
10-20-2004, 07:15 AM
A stone is 14 pounds Sinsemilla Jones.

I dont know what to suggest really but if just can't eat you could alway's try dosing yourself up on vit tablets and protien shakes (not a long term solution but better than nothing.)

Can't think of anything else Res. Sorry.

Lulu
10-20-2004, 08:55 AM
That happens to me from time to time. Try to get into the habit of eating first thing in the morning, when you skip breakfast your metabolism slows right down and that in turn affects your appetite.
If you live alone it can seem like too much trouble to prep and cook for just yourself - but you have to make the effort. Fresh juices and smoothies are a good way to start off the day and with the cold weather coming in make yourself some porridge.
Stay away from processed and canned foods, too much sodium and chemicals - try to eat as much fresh produce as possible. Aways make double the amount and freeze some, for when you're feeling like you couldn't be arsed cooking. Vegetables tossed in olive oil, fresh herbs and sea salt roasted in the oven (easy peasey) with a sour cream dip, yummy and straight forward. You've just gotten out of the habit :rolleyes:
For your height you are way underweight. So off to the market with you start putting up those pounds ;) Bon appetit, Lulu

RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the feedback, guys.
I'm not bullshitting, Bro (and no offense has been taken :) ), I am quite worried now.

I do drink copious amounts of tea - I am a tea monster!, and I rarely can eat anything first thing in the morning. I don't eat enough fresh produce, mainly because I am lazy, and can't be bothered to eat.
When my children visit me at the weekends, I tend to eat fairly well - as I HAVE to cook for them...but even then, I don't get enthusiastic about food - and never really have.

I work nights, which doesn't help the natural rythmn of things - so maybe that has something to do with it.
I'll admit thatI am very depressed at the moment. My life is on the downturn, have a few money probs, and the whole 'missing my children' thing gets me so down, that I am close to tears whenever I see 'happy families' around me. I am fucked of with life in general, and those people around me that can't seem to see anything beyond that which directly affects them. My ex-wife is continually blaming me for walking out on the family (but she was the one who shagged my 'best' mate) - I left because I didn;'t want to subject my kids to an atmosphere of hatred between me and tyheir mother - it wouldn't be fair on them... but I'm always to blame!
I am a very introspective person, and often take the worries of the world upon my shoulders, when they have nothing to do with me - but I have a strong sense of caring.
I wish I didn't.
I wish I could just say "fuck you, world!" - but I can't...and believe me I have tried.
My compassion has cost me dearly, not only in the direction of my life, but also those lives of which I have affected in the past.
There is a constant battle that rages within me: I wanna be good, but am afraid that my 'goodness' will be thrown back in my face (as it usually does) - so, I try to divorce myself from society. Then I feel guilty that I don't care...the cycle is endless.
I suffer from guilt.
Guilt that I have let my children down, guilt that I have interfered when I should have left well alone.
I feel angry that those that I thought were my friends, have turned around and stabbed me in the back.

I feel blissfully happy, one minute, then for no reason at all, I suddenly plunge into a deep state of depression that borders on suicide...I don't understand why this happens.
Those around me don't know of this, because I can act very well, and hide those dark thoughts that I have...but as soon as they are gone, those thoughts come flooding back like a tidal wave.

Sometimes, I feel like I am an alien in this world, and find myself aghast at peoples lack of foresight and vision.
Then, I come to a place like this, and see that I'm not alone...so, what am I feeling?
Why can't I just live my life to the full and fuck everything else?

I like making people laugh - Ilike helping others to overcome their issues, and yet cannot seem to address my own - lol, the world's greates advisor can't even sort his own shit out!

The last four years of mylife, has been spent 'getting along' -I have no ambition anymore, because everything that I thought was true, has turned out to be a lie.
I used to think that there was a special person that was made for me - and I have met her (not my wife, though)...and yet I was denied her....and in the process of denial, I have lost a great deal of people that I loved.

Anyways, I'm prolly boring the pants off you all, so I'm gonna try andf eat summat lol
Thanks for the feedback (ironic choice of words lmao), I'll try all of your suggestions...

Res...

Lulu
10-20-2004, 11:43 AM
Eating first thing in the morning is a good habit to have and after a few days you'll find you're waking hungry. Tea and coffee are appetite supressants so try cutting back or switch (at least a couple of cups) to a more natural, lower caffeine tea like Jasmine.
Guilt after a marriage breakup is sooo normal (even if you are the injured party) your children will be happy if you're happy. Remember you did the right thing, a hostile, turbulent atmosphere would have been damaging for your kids and soul destroying for yourself. Try to move on, try counselling if you think it'll help and stay away from anti depressants. You will get over this and find happiness again but happiness doesn't lie with someone else - only you can make you happy, no one else.
Stop worrying about stuff you have no control over. It's wasted energy. Concentrate on stuff you can do and stop beating yourself up. You sound like a nice man and someone who genuinely cares. Clap yourself on the back and count your blessings, I'm sure you have loads when you sit back and think about it. Take care xx

RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 12:09 PM
Thanks Lulu :)
I'll deffo try the Jasmine tea - I can't do without my cuppa lol..but I know I drink far too much (usually 10or so cups a day!).
Res...

IntrepidS
10-20-2004, 12:11 PM
Her Resinate, does the problem occur also when you eat at resturants and when you order food?

RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 12:24 PM
I think that is a general disinterest in food...
I don't eat out very often at all.
I don't go out very much at all, either.

It's like, I can go into a supermarket and see nothing to eat, whereas most people can see loads of food.
I get jealous of people who get very excited about food - I can't.
I used to have a friend who would describe a meal with such enthusiasm as to be almost inspiring - I wish I had that. To me, I can't wait til they invent a pill that would constitute a meal....put a pill on a plate, drop some water on it, and 'hey presto!', roast beef dinner....

Oooh..I got major de ja vu then!

maryjanemama
10-20-2004, 12:29 PM
Resinate, I'm so glad that I've found someone who shares my same misery. Does it feel like your throat is constricting when you try to eat? Like someone has their hands around your throat? Believe me, meds won't work, they'll only make you feel shittier.

I agree with Lulu and everyone else who suggested milk shakes, smoothies, and juice. That's the path I follow. I've gone days without eating or just drinking juice or smoothies and I'm just fine.


Really...I'm just fine.

































Pay no attention to the man behind me in the white coat. :D

GHoSToKeR
10-20-2004, 04:46 PM
Res, I know how you feel.. As i've been getting older, I've found myself feeling guilty for thing's that have nothing do with me, or things I have no control over. I feel guilty because my dad's an alcoholic, even though he's been an alcoholic all his life. I feel guilty that my mom is stressed out with work and smokes 30 ciggies a day and may get cancer, and I feel I should be able to make her quit, but I cant. I know I shouldn't feel guilty but I do. I feel guilty that so many people devote their lives to things which are trivial and irrelevant, but I can't help it. It feels, to me, like I should be able to do something about it but I can't.

This guilt is swiftly turning into anxiety, and if I don't do something about it I assume it'll turn into depressions. The only thing I can think of to stop feeling like this is to ignore everything that makes me feel guilty. If I feel guilty about other people's problems, then I should ignore it and just say "shit, it's their problem, not mine". I know that sounds utterly selfish and self-centered, but if everyone else lives their life in perpetual blindness then why shouldn't I? Grrr, here I go again, rant rant rant lol

Anyway, like Lulu said, a feeling of guilt is common after a divorce or the ending of a relationship. It's the same feeling of guilt as when a loved one dies - you feel responsible, even though you know you're not. The only way that I can see to get out of this guilt cycle, is to tell yourself "You're being stupid". I know it may not always work, but no one else can do it for you. You have to physically make yourself snap out of these mood swings. If something is depressing you or making you feel guilty, then you need to either rectify that problem, or tell yourself it's not your problem. Otherwise, this downward spiral will never end, your guilt and depression will increase exponentially, and unfortunately, you may never get out of it. I may sound like I don't know what i'm talking about, but I think (I hope) I do.

Focus on the good things in your life, not on the bad things you see in the world around you. Sure, the world's is a depressing place, but neither you or me are gonna change a damn thing by getting worked up over it. Don't let it get you down, concentrate on the good things in your life - your health, your ability to make people laugh, and most importantly your children - and block everything else out until you're ready to face it again.

Anyway, that's just the advice of a teenager, so maybe you shouldn't take too much notice of it.. I dunno.. Peace

RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 04:48 PM
lol@man in white coat...does he have a clip board too, and makes little notes, now and again...lol

I think its a combination of laziness (can't be bothered to cook), coupled with a load of dark shit...

Today, I thought - I know, I'll make some egg and bacon rolls, topped with cheese..cool...but after one (I made 3), I was really struggling to finish them off (I only managed 2 and a half) - I was almost forcing myself to eat it, cos I know that I should...

I've never been particularly big, but have always had a good appetite - even if most of what I ate was junk lol.
Yep, 'hands around the throat' is a good description.

I was just worried that I might be bulimic (sp) or summat, but I aint, because I don't purge...prolly just depression that will pass in time....

I reckon I'll buy a liquidiser, and do the smoothie thing...the kids will like it too lol

GHoSToKeR
10-20-2004, 04:50 PM
Res, I know how you feel.. As i've been getting older, I've found myself feeling guilty for thing's that have nothing do with me, or things I have no control over. I feel guilty because my dad's an alcoholic, even though he's been an alcoholic all his life. I feel guilty that my mom is stressed out with work and smokes 30 ciggies a day and may get cancer, and I feel I should be able to make her quit, but I cant. I know I shouldn't feel guilty but I do. I feel guilty that so many people devote their lives to things which are trivial and irrelevant, but I can't help it. It feels, to me, like I should be able to do something about it but I can't.

This guilt is swiftly turning into anxiety, and if I don't do something about it I assume it'll turn into depressions. The only thing I can think of to stop feeling like this is to ignore everything that makes me feel guilty. If I feel guilty about other people's problems, then I should ignore it and just say "shit, it's their problem, not mine". I know that sounds utterly selfish and self-centered, but if everyone else lives their life in perpetual blindness then why shouldn't I? Grrr, here I go again, rant rant rant lol

Anyway, like Lulu said, a feeling of guilt is common after a divorce or the ending of a relationship. It's the same feeling of guilt as when a loved one dies - you feel responsible, even though you know you're not. The only way that I can see to get out of this guilt cycle, is to tell yourself "You're being stupid". I know it may not always work, but no one else can do it for you. You have to physically make yourself snap out of these mood swings. If something is depressing you or making you feel guilty, then you need to either rectify that problem, or tell yourself it's not your problem. Otherwise, this downward spiral will never end, your guilt and depression will increase exponentially, and unfortunately, you may never get out of it. I may sound like I don't know what i'm talking about, but I think (I hope) I do.

Focus on the good things in your life, not on the bad things you see in the world around you. Sure, the world's is a depressing place, but neither you or me are gonna change a damn thing by getting worked up over it. Don't let it get you down, concentrate on the good things in your life - your health, your ability to make people laugh, and most importantly your children - and block everything else out until you're ready to face it again.

Anyway, that's just the advice of a teenager, so maybe you shouldn't take too much notice of it.. I dunno.. Peace
oops lol you cant delete posts, but i hit the send button.. grrr

Proof
10-20-2004, 04:54 PM
This is really fucking weird i no u guys wont believe me but the same thing has bein happen to me, its well strange, dont bother me to much though cause im jus the average weight 10 stoned. when im stoned and eat food its generaly shit food like chocy bars thatl fill u up quick and have a nice taste but i rarly eat now woo wee im stoned now lol. This is only a phase tho i go through different phases sometimes eat sometimes dont, bit strange but ah well.

RESiNATE
10-20-2004, 04:56 PM
Hey, MJMamam, I just thought...perhaps we shouyld start up a WeightGain Class..lol

"Hey...you put on 3ozs this week...well done!"
"Ooops, I just farted - Iguess that cancells out the 3oz?"
lol

And GHoST - just because you're a teenager, doesn't mean you don't know nothing. I value people on merit, not age - there are people in this world that are older than you, that seem to display a much greater misunderstanding about things - so don't put yourself down - ever..as you get older, you will realise that there are plenty of people out there that will try to do that for you.

Some things are easier said than done :)

KillaBuzz
10-20-2004, 09:20 PM
well i dint read all the postz so maybe sum1 said this but anywayz....
i rarely eat breakfast er lunch, simply becuz i have no appetite an the though ov food in the mornin makez me wanna puke. so now im used 2 eatin one big ass meal, an other healthy snack shit in between. i dunt think anythin haz happened thatz traumatizin u into not eatin, uve juss gotten used 2 eatin little amountz. think bout the nothern native indian tribez back in the day who had no clue ov population otherwise. they survived on dropz ov water, tree rootz, an the very odd animal that theyd hunt. even tho they were "starvin themselvez" az us modern ppl wood think, they made it juss fine, an i also dout that they had much appetite.
the moral ov the story: make yerself eat more eryday an u will gradually NEED to eat more az yer body getz used 2 consumin more. i kno this becuz in the summer i tend 2 start eatin in the mornin cuz i got nuttin better 2 do, an wuda yah kno, i eat bout twice az much an feel more hungry in the summer then any other time....
PeAcE

YES
10-21-2004, 12:21 AM
I have what you have but it comes and goes with me so its not to much of a problem.

When ive been smoking alot for a couple days, and i eat all of my meals high that day, when i stop smoking i wont be able to eat. I will feel hungry but just wont have any appetite. I cant explain it but i know smokeing is related to my problem.

Well, good luck.

Imotep
10-21-2004, 02:37 AM
shit i just lost my whole reply.

i get depressed and cant eat and im really tall and hung like a skeleton.
its a cycle deprerssion, bad appetite. one makes the other worse.
sucks being hung up on things u cant change.
all the best res,
definateley not alone on that one. ;)

GotAMinute419
10-24-2004, 10:27 AM
man just eat bacon, the smell of it will make you want to eat and then eat the bacon, youll eat like half a pound of it...all this bacon talk already got me hungry :D

RESiNATE
10-24-2004, 10:43 AM
Yeppers, Imotep, can totally relate...
I am of the opinion that I am just in a place of sadness, and can't break free, no matter how optimistic I try to be - Fate will provide an exit, I am sure....it's just a case of waiting for Her to get her act together lol

And as for bacon....mmmmm nice
lol

Bro DZ
10-24-2004, 04:13 PM
Yeppers, Imotep, can totally relate...
I am of the opinion that I am just in a place of sadness, and can't break free, no matter how optimistic I try to be - Fate will provide an exit, I am sure....it's just a case of waiting for Her to get her act together lol

And as for bacon....mmmmm nice
lol
My god man, you sound like a woman! LoL get over yourself and take back your life dammit

you can, and will be an excellent father and great stoner buddy! (even though your just a name on the internet so far LoL)

crazymofo8426
10-24-2004, 04:28 PM
weigh 10.5? you mean 105?