Question about Fear & Loathing

[usedchemicals]

In the movie Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas, what does Johnny Depp smoke out of the light bulb when Dr. Gonzo is on his crazy acid trip in the bathtub?

If I remember correctly he is sitting in front of the television, and the camera moves so that it looks like the couch he's sitting on is levitating.

[kracks]

i think its hash

[MyMARYJANE]

ive ALWAYS wondered wat the hell that was! lol.. i just assumed he was like lighting underneath the lightbulb and sucking in the fumes HAHAH.. but iknow thats not right
great movie. gotta get the book still !!!

[SmokingPlatypus]

It's either a light bulb vaporizer, or he's smoking meth. It's not meth, because he doesn't mention meth when he's talking about the smorgasboard of drugs that he has in the briefcase. It's probably bud, hash, or opium.

[MyMARYJANE]

i feel like it might not be weed bc the whole like scene just seems more intense. liek when he floats up w/ the couch. but it could be.. some NICEEE ass weed

[FeastonThisSHITT]

I always assumed it was hash.

[sanguinekane]

I'm almost positive it's bud. I don't see the sequence after (the SF acid scene and the Wave Speech) as a hallucination, instead I believe it's a flashback (as in memory, not acid flashback) that just happens to be brought on by the herb.

[MyMARYJANE]

that SF scene is one of my faves in the whole movie :)

[Frivolous248]

Its gotta be weed. I got the movie on my PC and he says they have:

2 bags of grass
75 pellets of mescaline
5 sheets of high-powered blotter acid
salt shaker half full of cocain
a whole galazy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers
quart of tequila
quart of rum
case of beer
pint of raw ether
two dozen amyls

It must be weed, I'm pretty sure that is the only smokeable thing he lists, 'cept coke i guess but you probably wouldn't use it that way. And for me, I don't see that scene having any hallucinations, when he floats on the couch, to me it describes the feeling of being high, like your in your own little world, that scene describes getting high for me very, very well.

So: its weed... and I don't think they picked up any more drugs at that point in the movie, but he did get some adrenaline later on, so assuming they only had what they listed at that point, it was weed.

[sanguinekane]

Couldn't be the coke, as Dr. Gonzo accidentally dropped alomost all of it in the very begining of the movie, just after the hitchhiker runs away and they continue onto to Vegas. Just more evidence that it's bud.

[johnny cottonmouth]

i dont want to sound stupid but what was the deal with the song during Dr. Gonzos trip. i mean i know he was tripping and i know its hard to tell what anyone is talking about when their tripping but was there any thing significant about the song?

[DannyMan]

i dont want to sound stupid but what was the deal with the song during Dr. Gonzos trip. i mean i know he was tripping and i know its hard to tell what anyone is talking about when their tripping but was there any thing significant about the song?

Are you talking about the white rabbit song??
Oh man...

[paperlunatic]

i love white rabbit

he is sitting in front of a tv that is on a fuzzy white channel, and the sound of the white noise those channels makes could probly make you really spaced out if your baked, i think there is nothing more to it than good weed and a lightbuld vape

edit:

So: its weed... and I don't think they picked up any more drugs at that point in the movie, but he did get some adrenaline later on, so assuming they only had what they listed at that point, it was weed.

yea.........:stoned: exactly

[Smokin EnDo]

I'm sure it was meth. Meth is an "upper" and that is how you smoke meth. Either that or crack but definetly not pot.

[sanguinekane]

Care to back that up with anything, seeing as meth is never mentioned in the list of drugs at the begining, nor anywhere else in the movie or book. And crack hadn't even been invented in the early 70's.

It's bud, no doubt about it.

[chisme]

i wonder what he meant by 2 bags....i hope he mean at leats 2 oz bags 2 8ths wouldnt be enoutgh for that trip! lol

[MyMARYJANE]

its drugs

[usedchemicals]

i wonder what he meant by 2 bags....i hope he mean at leats 2 oz bags 2 8ths wouldnt be enoutgh for that trip! lol

the bag he held up had quite a bit in it, and most of the time, it seems like they're smoking cigarettes more than marijuana.

most of their time is used up on the heavier drugs

[afghooey]

Care to back that up with anything, seeing as meth is never mentioned in the list of drugs at the begining, nor anywhere else in the movie or book. And crack hadn't even been invented in the early 70's.

"a whole galazy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers"

Some of that could be smokable, maybe?

[sanguinekane]

"a whole galazy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers"

He's describing pills.

[Smokin EnDo]

METH IS AN UPPER!!! He Never said they were pills. And that IS how yous moke meth. No one put pot in a globe at the end to vaperize it. You do that to meth.

[usedchemicals]

"a whole galazy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers"

He's describing pills.

yeah, he never does say that they were pills

[sanguinekane]

METH IS AN UPPER!!! He Never said they were pills. And that IS how yous moke meth. No one put pot in a globe at the end to vaperize it. You do that to meth.

It also happens to be a crude (very crude) way of vaping bud. If you want to believe it's meth, fine, go ahead, that's your choice, and I can see that anything I say is not going to convince you otherwise. I'm just saying that I can say with what I believe to be a fairly high degree of certainty that what he smokes in that scene is bud and not meth.

[BigNugs4U]

I always thought it was meth, since the scene surrounds him with a shroud of t.v. static, kind of in a "wired" way. He did not specify the uppers as pills, as smokin endo says. And in addition, the light bulb is like a meth skillet in that it has a stem proceeding to a bulb.

[SmokingPlatypus]

meth is never mentioned in the list of drugs at the begining,

"And an entire galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers and spinners."

Could be meth in that list.

[sanguinekane]

Yeah, I admit that meth COULD be in that list, but having read almost everything Hunter S. Thompson wrote, I don't see him as someone who would do meth. Speed, yes, but not meth specifically. The fact that meth only began to be made for recreational use in the late 60's also leads me to believe that it simply wouldn't have had the time to permeate the drug culture to reach a point where it would have been written about in a major work.

[Binzhoubum]

I've read the book many times and seen the movie many times.

He is smoking HASHISH! He says so. He says something like I just need to get some good rest and drink a little rum and smoke some hash.

It was a hash pipe. ;)

:smokin:

[Binzhoubum]

It is hashish...I assure you all. He mentions it in the BOOK. :smokin:

[delta9thc06]

Im pretty sure its freebase cocaine, cause thats how ya do it.

[delta9thc06]

This too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebase

[UMrocksmysocks]

its drugs

good answer :rasta:

[Binzhoubum]

He is NOT smoking meth. He says that he needs to crash and get some good sleep while Dr. Gonzo is tripping his balls off in the bathroom.

He is drinking rum and smoking hashish! And then he stares at the tv white noise and he is simply stoned folks.

He is not freebasing cocaine because, as noted earlier, that Samoan bastard of an attorney spilled all the blow out of the salt shaker while they were driving the Great Red Shark at full speed down the lonely Las Vegas highway.

He is not smoking ice. For sure. Case closed. :)

On a side note, did you all know that Hitler used to get daily injections of methamphetmine intravenously. Some say that this habit led to neurological damage which resulted in his poor choice to send his troops into Russia during the winter. :smokin:

[delta9thc06]

I guess we may never know for sure what he was doing cause he died . But ya hitler use to take meth and a couple other drugs so that he could stay up later and thats why he looked like a raging lunatic during his speaches.

[Binzhoubum]

I guess we may never know for sure what he was doing cause he died . But ya hitler use to take meth and a couple other drugs so that he could stay up later and thats why he looked like a raging lunatic during his speaches.

I am 99% sure that in the book it says hashish. Dr. Thompson was saying something about rum and hashish helping him to sleep during that portion of the trip. :thumbsup: :stoned:

Oh yeah....I forgot to say: FUCK HITLER! And I don't think that the drugs made him look like a raging lunatic, he was a raging lunatic!

[sanguinekane]

He is NOT smoking meth. He says that he needs to crash and get some good sleep while Dr. Gonzo is tripping his balls off in the bathroom.

Exactly. The whole point of his argument with Dr. Gonzo is trying to get the tripping bastard to chill out so that Thompson himself can get some rest. Why would you smoke meth if you were trying to get some sleep? Seems rather counter productive to me.

[Binzhoubum]

Exactly. The whole point of his argument with Dr. Gonzo is trying to get the tripping bastard to chill out so that Thompson himself can get some rest. Why would you smoke meth if you were trying to get some sleep? Seems rather counter productive to me.

Thank you for backing me up! :thumbsup: :D :smokin:

[usedchemicals]

He is not freebasing cocaine because, as noted earlier, that Samoan bastard of an attorney spilled all the blow out of the salt shaker while they were driving the Great Red Shark at full speed down the lonely Las Vegas highway.

I remember this, but i also remember them snorting cocaine at many points throughout the movie, in Las Vegas.

[afghooey]

Hitler did meth? Well, that explains a hell of a lot. If you know any hardcore methheads, you know what I'm talking about. Fucking crazy mofos.

[BigNugs4U]

some people CAN sleep on meth. And eat.

[Sterling]

immortal technique says shutupniggas its hash


and if u can sleep on meth its probally because u've been up for 5 days bud.



ps-ether smells good.

[Sterling]

immortal technique says shutupniggas its hash


and if u can sleep on meth its probally because u've been up for 5 days bud.



ps-ether smells good.

[Sterling]

immortal technique says shutupniggas its hash


and if u can sleep on meth its probally because u've been up for 5 days bud.



ps-ether smells good.

[BigNugs4U]

Ster, not necessarily the case. Its that their bodies are affected differently and/or they have become accustomed to it.

[BigNugs4U]

and they can sleep every day. And maybe every other day.

[SkatePopwar]

it def was a trp, he sees himself right? who knows it coulda been like SALVIA no idk

[SwirlyMass]

People freebase coke all the time.

[WeeDIndeeD420]

dude he does say right as hes smoking it, that it no more SPEED that fueled the sixtys, remember and how its so sketchy looking i would bet hes smokin THE REAL MEANING OF DOPE

[Ol Schwaggy Bastard]

hes freebasing cocaine, to whoever said it isnt because the lawyer spilled it in the car, if you remember later in the hotel the lawyers feeding him coke off that huge knife...they get more drugs throughout the movie.

[Breukelen advocaat]

There's no question that Thompson did a lot of speed in his younger days - he claimed that it made him prematurely bald. But, I don't think that anybody smoked it in the time period that Fear & Loathing took place in. Some of the strongest amphetamine pills were called Black Beauties, and you could get them by prescription, or from dealers. Shooting or snorting methamphetamine was also common, and more dangerous than the pills. I have a feeling that Hunter stuck with pills.

Has oil was also around at that time, and glass pipes were used to smoke it. That could be the answer but as someone said, it was probably just hash.

[Ol Schwaggy Bastard]

`he also claimes that doing hallucinogens on a tropical island where alcohol was illegal made his go bald. he liked to tell little fibs.

[Biddy Early]

It was DMT, it states this in the book.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It was DMT, it states this in the book.

That makes sense.

I read his Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail in the Rolling Stone magazine serialized excerpts way back in the day. I don't remember if they did that with Thompson's Vegas material.

[MisterGreen]

wow after reading this thread i should see the movie because i'd only heard the title and the general idea never this much detail. it sounds crazy.

[halfassedjediknight]

its dmt, and thats why it gets all hallucionogenic and weird right after he hits it. if you notice theres a projector showing like tv static and stuff projected against him and the wall behind him and stuff..

and i dont think the couch actually levitated.

..anyways, they had a bong and stuff too, so i dont think it would have been hash anyways. but then again i have no idear.

but yeah read the book! its good.

[Ol Schwaggy Bastard]

That makes sense.

I read his Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail in the Rolling Stone magazine serialized excerpts way back in the day. I don't remember if they did that with Thompson's Vegas material.

Yeah they did.


And DMT makes sense.

[friendowl]

dmt

[TokinSurfer]

deffenetly ice

[sonic titan]

He doesn't even mention what he is smoking in the book. I'm looking at it right now. In my book it's page 62. All he says is " I walked over to the TV set and turned it onto a dead channel-white noise at maximum decibels, a fine sound for sleeping, a powerful continuous hiss to drown out everything strange"

He doesn't mention the rum and hash until page 65 when he's telling a story and says "Forget LSD I thought, look what it's done to that poor bastard. So I stuck with hash and rum for another six months or so, until..."

[Breukelen advocaat]

uppers-Amphetamine
downers-Benzodiazepine
screamers-Methamphetamine
laughters-Nitrous oxide
For Thompson's terminology, I don't think that most of these words match the drugs he was referring to in the story. By "downers" he was probably talking about barbiturates (Seconal, etc.), or Chlorpromazine (anti-psychotics like Thorazine, etc.) which he'd have been more likely to have than benzodiazepine products, which are comparatively weak. The only one on the list I'd agree with is "uppers" for amphetamines.

[Matt the Funk]

For Thompson's terminology, I don't think that most of these words match the drugs he was referring to in the story. By "downers" he was probably talking about barbiturates (Seconal, etc.), or Chlorpromazine (anti-psychotics like Thorazine, etc.) which he'd have been more likely to have than benzodiazepine products, which are comparatively weak. The only one on the list I'd agree with is "uppers" for amphetamines.downers probably qualudes...or w/e the fuck those were called, anyways this thread should be delted soon...

[Breukelen advocaat]

downers probably qualudes...or w/e the fuck those were called, anyways this thread should be delted soon...

This thread is about a movie. If we're talking about these particular activities, then it's only in that context, and for historical accuracy.

Quaaludes were not technically "downers", but you definitely could go down and out, as in die, from them. They're muscle relaxants - very popular, but I do not think they were something Hunter Thompson was partial to. The short name for Quaaludes was usually just "ludes". Everybody in those days called Seconals "downs", or "Reds". There were others, but it's not necessary to name them. Thompson was more of a spaced-out type guy. His use of ups and downs was more utilitarian than pleasure-orientated.