is it true sugar makes buds fatter?

[redrosesforabluelady]

i read on the miracle grow thread that adding sugar to your water will make the buds grow faster and fatter is this true and if so what is the ratio..... please reply to this cause if it is true i would like to do it thanks,brian

[kush07]

Yes, sugar does effect bud growth and developement by as much as 10%. It is always good to add it to your watering regime during flowering and whenever you might need to help a plant get over stress.

Happy Toking :rasta:

[redrosesforabluelady]

awesome but does anyone know how muc hto put in the water cause i dont wanna put in too much or not enough

[m.g.]

i've been growing outdoors for going on 30 years now and would not recommend putting sugar around your plants. the solution will gum up the roots and attract insects. if you must do it anyway i urge you to test it on a trial plant planted well away from the others...then you'll see what i'm talking about.

[redrosesforabluelady]

damn it because as soon as the post came back as it was good i ran outside and watered it with sugar in it.....so am i gonna be screwed now?

[smoky mcpot 05]

Well I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH M.G.! I have the same amount of experience as m.g. but unlike him have had amazing results with Sugar. The most un-processed the sugar the better, the best being Turbinado. I would recommend using around 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. But he is right about the insects. Well atleast about the ants anyway. But in some aspects ants are actually benefical, protecting from more harmful insects. Don't know how he says it 'gums up the roots', adding sugar supplements plants natural sugars making them grow bigger faster than without it. There was quite a nice article in HT's a few months back called 'Sweetleaf'.

[redrosesforabluelady]

alright then i put like way too much sugar in the water i took like 3 scoops in my watering can thing and i only put in like a 1/2 gallon maybe 1 full one is tha tbad?

[imsmokingmyroach]

I use brown sugar for my plants. I mix 2tsp-3 gallons and flowering food.
I think sugar works great.

[bud breath420]

you should disolve your sugar in your water before giving it to your plants... sugar as well as supplementing sugars for the plants gives it extra carbon...

[houdini]

What ? sugar ? since when ? I'm also a long-time grower and this is the first time I've heard of sugar (like you buy in a store) aiding plant development. I'm always open to new ideas but pouring sugarized water on plants ? Sounds like a recipe for major bug attraction.

[smoky mcpot 05]

Well theres just a limit to how much can be used at one time, To much of a good thing can be bad. It also depends on how big your plant is.

Houdini, I don't know what to tell you, this has been well known of decades in growing circles, not just cannabis but other fruits and vegetables as well. Get out from under that rock my brother!

[stinkyattic]

Sweet and TopMax and some other products contain sugar so if you're afraid of gumming up the roots just use those things instead.

[smoky mcpot 05]

and carboload. ;)

[phillykid]

the carbohydrates (sugars) feed the benficial microbes in the soil, and facilitate the uptake of the residual nutrients in the soil.

1/2 cup of unsweetened pineapple juice per 5 gal/water. during the last 2 weeks.

[redrosesforabluelady]

awesome thanks a lot guys i have done this twice already and have only noticed a few ants so im guess im going to give this a go for all u guys to try i already noticed a difference as well

[smoky mcpot 05]

Happy to be of assitance, also I don't think a few ants are going to much of a problem for a plant the size of the one you have. I defiately think the reward outweighs the 'risk' but thats just me...have a happy grow, stay safe.

[m.g.]

ok then...when you start getting odd shaped, coppery colored spots breaking out on your leaves you'll know what the problem is and perhaps next time will stick with 'the book' and time honored methods instead of looking for a shortcut. don't you think something so simple and accessible would be used by all if it really worked?

[redrosesforabluelady]

why would it develop brown spots...cause ive already done this a few times... if it does coudl u tell me how to fix it?

[smoky mcpot 05]

I don't know what books you're reading but the ones I've read suggested to use sugar. And FYI, it is a 'time honored method' people have been doing it for decades. Theres fewer experienced growers that don't use than do use it that I know. And I've never had "odd shaped, copper colored spots breaking out on my leaves" I'm not getting into a 'pissing contest' about this I've said all I have to say about the subject.

[redrosesforabluelady]

i dont know what to do now lol... do i keep using sugar or do i stop..... i jus twant huge buds.. i think everyoen does

[houdini]

I'm with M.G. on this. All of the top growers I know DO NOT use sugar in the way suggested in this thread. Ed Rosenthal, George Cervantes have written quite a few growing books and nowhere in any of them are they recommending the use of sugar in the way suggested here. I've also been a regular on Overgrow, especially the growing threads, and this subject never came up in the 4 years or so I was there.
However, as I said previously, I am open to new ideas. Smoky, could you please supply some net or book references where the use of sugar to aid marijuana plant development is specifically mentioned ? Thanks buddy and peace to all here. I'm not interested in a pissing contest either but I am interested in accurate information for people who use these boards.

[sombro]

i've read on another forum about some experienced growers flushing with molasses dissolved in water a few days before harvesting but that was for taste rather than improved yield.

[houdini]

There's a whole shitload of folklore out there about flushing. First of all, you DO NOT flush plants growing in the ground. You DO flush plants either in pots or grown hydroponically. Its very simple. Use plain ordinary water about 10 days or so before harvest. But if you want to spend money, then be my guest. You can find a myriad of products for good bucks on the web. Using H2o will give you a smooth smoke afterwards, providing of course that you dry and cure properly.
There is a molasses product around which claims to 'sweeten' the buds. I don't believe it.

[justlovingit420]

you guys are all high i suggest ya stop smokin weed as for you smoky you havent posted any plants on here that look like you know what ur doin ive grown in the emerald triangle for 20 years and know not 1 person that ever watered with sugar whatever if i was all of you i would just stick to whatever your program with growing is and let the other fools try all this other shit thats how ya messup ur plants is when you start listening to foolishness im out

[smoky mcpot 05]

I'm with M.G. on this. All of the top growers I know DO NOT use sugar in the way suggested in this thread. Ed Rosenthal, George Cervantes have written quite a few growing books and nowhere in any of them are they recommending the use of sugar in the way suggested here. I've also been a regular on Overgrow, especially the growing threads, and this subject never came up in the 4 years or so I was there.
However, as I said previously, I am open to new ideas. Smoky, could you please supply some net or book references where the use of sugar to aid marijuana plant development is specifically mentioned ? Thanks buddy and peace to all here. I'm not interested in a pissing contest either but I am interested in accurate information for people who use these boards.

Well you must not have read JORGE Cervantez lastest edition, Page 290.

Justlovingit420, you have a big mouth my friend, just because I haven't been spamming the boards and interrupting other peoples threads with photos of mine doesn't mean I dont have them. Look through all my posts before you go running your mouth off. But just for you here, and this was just this year, my photos from my grows in the 80's would have blown your little mind.

Sorry Redrosesforabluelady for polluting your thread.

Didn't know what I was doing here.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/DSCF0001.jpg

or here
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/WildberryFemale.jpg

not here either
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/JrsPics019-1.jpg

defiately not here either
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/C-1ColumbianHybrid2.jpg

and here either
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/HerijuanaFemale.jpg

I know there not the 6 foot tall plants you have, (as I don't have the backyard option you do) but defiately enough I think to prove I know what I'm doing...

[justlovingit420]

like i said you dont what ur talkin about my dick is bigger than those plants hawhen you can grow plants like these then you can tell me wassup

[redrosesforabluelady]

i think i started a war lol.... its al lgood smokey.... i mstartin to ge tnervous i dont htink i mgonna even jus twater my plany every da ybecause yesterda ya army helacopter went aroudn m ybackyard 3 times with there door open so imgettin very nervous

[redrosesforabluelady]

those are soem nice planst justloveinit

[m.g.]

red, whenever i'm confronted with something new i'll check it out (if it sounds reasonable) BUT i would never use it on the entire area. like i said earlier, pick a few away from the main body and use them for your experiments. i would never expose my entire crop to anything outside of 'the book' until i personally know the results. but keep in mind people having been growing for thousands of years and during that time any shortcuts would have been found by now and published...that not only applys here but in all aspects of the grow. there are no guarantees but following 'the book' will most likely give you a harvest worthy of your time and effort and after you have the basics down then start customizing to fit your needs and conditions...

k.i.s.s. (keep it simple stoner)

good luck

[phillykid]

come on now mj is not that hard to grow. u gotta spot in ur backyard where u can tend to ur shit easily and keep them concealed. anything less then that same tired pic u keep showing would be below average.:rasta:

[redrosesforabluelady]

wait..? did u say my plant is below average... im confused i thoug hm yplant was doin great

[smoky mcpot 05]

justlovingit420, I've grown plants over 10 ft tall, you're plants aren't anything special so stop acting like you're doing something nobody has done before. Like I said "my grows from the 80's would have blown your little mind" a field full of plants atleast 8ft tall and no less than 200 plants. but see as you MATURE and go through life you'll realize that things like a family and a nice house are more important than 6 foot tall plants. I grow plants that are concealable as I have children and don't have a fenced in backyard. You really couldn't act anymore childish and petty.

M.G. what is this 'book' that you keep on refering too, as the 'book' that I'm talking about says to use sugar.

[phillykid]

i was talking to the asshole

[smoky mcpot 05]

lol Phillykid, glad that its not just me. ;)

I think this whole thing has gotten outta control and off subject.
Redrosesforabluelady, you do what you feel is right and whats best for you. You've heard from both sides of the playing field. Maybe you'll try one method this time and one the next. M.G. is right about this:
"whenever i'm confronted with something new i'll check it out (if it sounds reasonable) BUT i would never use it on the entire area. like i said earlier, pick a few away from the main body and use them for your experiments. i would never expose my entire crop to anything outside of 'the book' until i personally know the results," other than that, well I've already expressed my opinion. Well I hope that you have a successful, happy, SAFE rest of your grow. For the record, the Army isn't the ones that go around looking for cannabis plants. I hope that eases your mind a little bit.

[redrosesforabluelady]

yea that does ease it a little do you happen to know what tyhe choppers look like that do look for the plants

[newtoitallgurrl]

Ok I have to agree with the sugar side lol I had a hard time with my plants and so one day decided it looked dehydrated soo blonde me gave it some gatorade in its water, and the next day they were happy as can be. I learned in other threads thats it was the sugar in the gatorade, well now that my female plant is in budding stage she is well over 9 1/2 ft tall, and got some killer size buds, and from the time it was 1 month old looking sad till now I have giving it gatorade! see attached you will see the last few months of it life stages starting from june to august, and have use gatorade (which contains .................................SUGAR!)
So Red roses here is proof that sugar is a good thing. I use about 12 oz of gatorade to one gallon of water, oh PS i have never used any sort of nuts either!! just gatorade.:D :thumbsup:

[jamstigator]

Huh, sugar eh? Well, I've never heard anything about using sugar, but nobody, including me, ever said I knew all there was to know. So, I'm gonna try it next grow, although not to excess or anything. Best case, it helps a little. Worst case, probably doesn't do anything noticeable and I'll be out a little sugar. ;)

[Henry56]

you nee da pk booster to increase brix levels not sugar that is just retarded ahahah

[smoky mcpot 05]

I'd say thats a noticable turn around there Newtoitallgurrl. Nice plant btw. (Where those bud shots at?)
Well put Jamstigator, I'll think you'll find that it helps alot though.

[latewood]

All this foliage and no buds??? Makes me want to run out and make some sugar water...roflmao

what's up D

[redrosesforabluelady]

yea i do agree tha tsuga rworks because i went outside this morning to chekc on my plants and the buds are twice the size no lie i will post pics as soon as i get a chance probobly in a couple days i definitly would suggest adding a spoon full of sugar to your water whe n yo uwater it and if you dont want t belieave it its cool. but it worked for me and newtoitallgurrl who jus tso happens to be horny today lol... peace,brian

[smoky mcpot 05]

well what do you know....But hey, I don't know what I'm doing.
But Justlovingit420 does,
if ya knew anything youd know that feminized seeds are always female stop givin advice until you know what ur talkin about amatuer and remember you started this by ur jelously on one of my posts big mouth just cause you cant grow anything over 2 feet is not my prob
Love and Peace Everyone.

[newtoitallgurrl]

OK you wanted pics here ya go, a few weeks ago we moved her indoors and put forced her into bloom with 2-150 hps lights, she has been in bloom for about 13 days now. she is loaded with buds:D, lAnd know what the best part of this is?? all you dipshits that talk your shit about other ppls plants and shit, just cracks me up, you read your grow manuals, and bibles, and you put on a front htat for 100 yrs you have been growing and never heard of the sugar thing or your "good book" says nothing about such a thing, It's ok, I know how men don't like it when people that just did something for the first time did it better that you after all your many years of experience lol let alone a GIRL!! now who's ROTLMFAO!!! :p
P.S>. that was last night and YES, YES I DID GET MINE!! :dance: :D ;)

#23 Aug-15-2006, 18:41
SaintSinner
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Hey Aaron, just checking to see how your clone is doing? Generally speaking it's rather hard to successfully clone from the flower stage, and looking at your pictures I'd say you're not in flower mode yet so the clone should do just fine. Unfortunately to make the plant flower you need to give it 12 hrs straight of uninterupted darkness (less then the light you'd get from a full moon) for a number of days. This would be a bit of a bitch outdoors, but if you want to force it into flower early you have to figure out a way to do it. But yeah, looking at the pics I'd bet it's still in veg mode. Doesn't really matter though, it's now mid august so as the days get shorter the plant will definately flower. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's already a few weeks into flower, but even if not you'll hopefully get a harvest by the end of October.

Oh, and gatorade is mostly water with a bit of sugar thrown in. Plants would eat that up (and sugar is very good during the flower stage ). Fizzy watter helps supposedly by getting oxygen to the roots.

Last edited by SaintSinner : Aug-15-2006 at 18:45.

[newtoitallgurrl]

like i said you dont what ur talkin about my dick is bigger than those plants hawhen you can grow plants like these then you can tell me wassup

Ya know men always have cool ass cars and or other things to hide the fact that his dick is SMALL, and they way you brag and always show the same damm pic of them plants I just wonder how small you dick really must be!! ROTFLMMFAO!!!

[kush07]

Smoky is right on this one. justlovingit420, dude, don't bring childish things like talking about dicks get into something like this. All it does is show your immaturity and it might also reflect how little you actually know about growing. Me and Smoky knew eachother from way back when and I personally saw some of his crops and they where the shit. We got seperated a some years ago and now we live across the country so we don't see each other. Trust the guy man, he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.

Happy Toking :rasta:

[IneedMONEY]

great idea with the sugar, makes sense it might aid in nutrients when used in moderation, although a couple of unnamed people in here are a bunch of meatheads

hollar

[smoky mcpot 05]

Ya know men always have cool ass cars and or other things to hide the fact that his dick is SMALL, and they way you brag and always show the same damm pic of them plants I just wonder how small you dick really must be!! ROTFLMMFAO!!!

Took the words right outta my mouth.

Thanks Kush, you know how I used to grow, ;)

[redrosesforabluelady]

i think im going to go ahead and say that newtoitallgurll is fucking awesome lol
i think i might try the gatorade thign too but jus tthe sugar water is working great

[redrosesforabluelady]

and also i couldnt leave u out smokey your aweosme too it seems you alwyas respond to all m ythreads and help thanks man. peace,brian

[Green Love]

the more sex you get the better off you are

[smoky mcpot 05]

and also i couldnt leave u out smokey your aweosme too it seems you alwyas respond to all m ythreads and help thanks man. peace,brian

Anytime, Always happy to help, thats what I'm here for. Happy Growing. ;)

[redrosesforabluelady]

WHOOOOO Im i nsuch a great mood i dont know why........ ican twait to get pictures up of my plant now there the best ive ever done

[ronjohn420]

Well you must not have read JORGE Cervantez lastest edition, Page 290.

Justlovingit420, you have a big mouth my friend, just because I haven't been spamming the boards and interrupting other peoples threads with photos of mine doesn't mean I dont have them. Look through all my posts before you go running your mouth off. But just for you here, and this was just this year, my photos from my grows in the 80's would have blown your little mind.

Sorry Redrosesforabluelady for polluting your thread.

Didn't know what I was doing here.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/DSCF0001.jpg

or here
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/WildberryFemale.jpg

not here either
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/JrsPics019-1.jpg

defiately not here either
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/C-1ColumbianHybrid2.jpg

and here either
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/smoky_mcpot/HerijuanaFemale.jpg

I know there not the 6 foot tall plants you have, (as I don't have the backyard option you do) but defiately enough I think to prove I know what I'm doing...

oh god heres smokey mc feind here again screwing up the boards.... why dont you lose the attitude you little sucker....... WE ALL KNOW YOURE A EXPERT GROWER AND A EXCELLENT PARALEGAL (OF 15 YEARS I MAY ADD) AND ALL THIS OTHER GOOD STUFF,,,

look smokey its not the first time ive seen you on here starting shit.......
you need to quit

[smoky mcpot 05]

so you come on this thread and run your mouth off about something completely of topic and say I'm the one starting shit? Your the one with the attitude problem. I've helped many people on these boards why don't you just run your mouth off on the non-growing threads and leave these to the people with actual growing experience. I've proven myself and what I know. Have a user that has even seen my past grows, so excuse my french, but fuck you, you little punk. Post things relavent to the thread.

[smoky mcpot 05]

as for you smoky you havent posted any plants on here that look like you know what ur doin ive grown in the emerald triangle for 20 years and know not 1 person that ever watered with sugar whatever if i was all of you i would just stick to whatever your program with growing is and let the other fools try all this other shit thats how ya messup ur plants is when you start listening to foolishness im out


like i said you dont what ur talkin about my dick is bigger than those plants hawhen you can grow plants like these then you can tell me wassup

And you say I'm the one starting shit! What a joke! Your the one that needs to quit with the attitude. I'll admit that I was too harsh on you in the first thread where we encountered each other but YOU NEED LET IT GO LOUIE!
And for the record, everything that I've said about myself and my experience is true, not my fault you can't handle it...figures you'd be the only one to come on here and side with that jackass.

[ronjohn420]

look its not that i have the problem... but i always hear you talking shit to people in alot of threads on here..... for example


okay everyone... i may be wrong for pointing out this man's main flaw

NO ONE LIKES THIS GUY (INCL. MODS)
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I'm sorry for michigan if thats the finest...

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Smokey mc SHUT THE FUCK UP! Fuck dude, you are the biggest wanker on these boards.
The bud is obviously very good bud and anyone who knows anything about buds or growing can tell you this.
I bet you've been smoking ass and not bud and this is your way of making yourself feel better.
Does it make you feel better saying shit to people? You are obviously wrong.

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DE.Db33t- I just got really pissed off because i've seen posts from smokeymcpot in other threads ragging on other peoples weed too. If you have nothing constructive to say..don't say anything!
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No, just browsing the legal section and took literally 2 clicks to find a post that supported what I'm saying. I'm not running out of anything, I have 15 years of legal experience that coinsides with what I'm saying, if y'all want to ignore my advice thats fine go right ahead. Sorry for trying to keep a few people out of jail. Really the last I have to say on this subject.

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LMAO smokey mcpotty.

Why do you even smoke, let alone come here, if you're so damn paranoid?

You quote one questionable post and think you've proved your point? No one is even sure the whole story on that, so might as well throw that out the window. You seem to be running out of proof that we can get busted just b/c we belong here...hmmm...what's next?

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IGNORANCE IS BLISS HUH 'ITS A PLANT'


Why don't you leave the legal advise for someone who actually knows what there talking about.


And I do love that song "Ignorance is Bliss" by Les Claypool, but that's beside the point. The point is that you still have one cute sig.

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I JUST WISH YOU WOULD STOP BRINGING NEGITIVITY ON HERE



THATS ALL

[redrosesforabluelady]

ok mr.ron jon and everyone else im not being a dick but can you please stop with this shit my thread is being fuckin ruined. i started this thread for help and im probobly the youngest one on this thread and im being the most mature. please stop all the off topic stuff i came onto this website for help and to help others with the knowledge that i know so please stop. smokey thanks for your help

[smoky mcpot 05]

Your welcome Redrosesforabluelady, thats what I was trying to say earlier, but when I'm attacked so help me God, I will defend myself.

ronjohn, sure does look like you have a problem, dragging up shit from the past, talking about something you weren't even involved with, having nothing to say about the topic of this thread, etc, etc. Yea, thats the same tired stuff you posted before. But what about after that? Nothing about how many have said, "thank you Smoky" well I'll tell you its alot more than have said negative things. I'm expressing my opinion, which I'm allowed to do, whether it be good or bad. I tell it like it is, if the buds don't look good to me than I say how I feel. Get over it, review my posts, you'll see alot more positive, helpful posts than 'negative' telling it like it is posts. Enough of polluting this thread. Anything else to say about the matter, make a thread for it...

Redrosesforabluelady, I'm glad that you saw the results others and myself where talking about. I hope that despite all this pissing and moaning you still value my opinion and understand why I've polluted your thread. Again my apologizes! Once again, your welcome and I'm happy to help and I'm sorry for all this bullshit.

[redrosesforabluelady]

its all good i wanted your opinion on this. and eveyrone elses opinion im thankfull for also. just for a future reference pleas eno one fuck up my threads again if you guys wanan throw around your words about people dont do it in the "OUTDOOR GROWING" section. thank you,brian

[smoky mcpot 05]

True that, again I can't say I'm sorry enough. Please keep us posted, (even if you have to make a new thread) I'm very interested to see your results.

[ronjohn420]

redrosesforabluelady i apologise for going off on your thread eariler.... i just see smoky being a "spectical" of himself in different places and i get mad when he questions peoples knowledge.... and since i caused a disruption, i will make it up by tryin to help you with the research ive done on this topic

Fertilizers are usually described by their N-P-K ratio. The three numbers represent the amounts of Nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), and potassium (K), the three most important nutrients for green plants.

Table sugar is comprised entirely of atoms of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. No nitrogen, phosphorus, or potassium. So, it would make a pretty poor fertilizer.

It's sort of easy to see how a mistake can be made, considering how we often refer to fertilizer as plant "food."

A plant's "food" is actually the glucose it makes for itself, using the sun's energy, carbon dioxide from the air, and water.

If sugar were anywhere near a suitable substitute, then we'd all have gone that way years ago. The people that push this stuff, are those that struggle to grow anything and grasp at straws. Or out of sheer coincidence, they move a plant to better light, and feed it some sugar, and the plant gets healthy and BAM! But the sugar has little to do with the turnaround in actuality. This is why fertilizer R&D departments hire phd's. This stuff has been studied in labs for many years and there just are no big secrets, or mysteries.
The fertilizer we give it is really more like "vitamins" than "food" Hope this helps.

have a good one

[ronjohn420]

POSTING AGAIN.... couldnt edit the last post........

smokymcpot ... truce and big buds for us all

have a god one

[smoky mcpot 05]

I don't think anyone here has said that sugar is a good fertilizer, just a good additive. Its 9 to 7 in favor of using sugar or sugar supplements and the user that created this thread said, "double the size of buds and is the best I've ever done". So I think that speaks for itself.

Ronjohn, Amen to that! shake on it ;)

[redrosesforabluelady]

alright im glad everyone made peace all apologies are accepted sorry if i came off as a dick. and thanks ron jon for that info.but i stil lthink that the sugar does something idk what though and also some users have said gatorade helps as well.. idk but i plan to keep you all posted with updates on how the bud looks .and let me say its a lot better than the last pictures...even though i still think those pics were good too lol,brian

[latewood]

redrosesforabluelady...I have sat back and watched this thread spiral downhill and out of control for long enough. This is all I can say to You.

I think you are off base having positive opinions about sketchy information that could ruin your grow. You have been offered the correct information and advice from the only confirmed experienced grower on this thread (m.g.) and have chosen to ignore it.

I am not saying that others that posted here don't know what they are doing, but "WE" know (m.g.) He knows what he has been doing for a long time. No offense meant, but I thought someone should steer you straight. good luck, and you are gonna need it, If you continue w/grow methods using substances like gatorade. Peace
p.s. there are alot of very knowledgable growers here at Cdot, but you have to read quite a bit, to weed them out from the "Bullchitman" peace, again latewood

[smoky mcpot 05]

I think thats horseshit Latewood, what do you mean by "confirmed", because I've had another user on this thread "confirm" my past grows, having seen them in person but I guess thats not enough "confirmation" for you. Not to mention all the photos that I've posted, and they didn't look 'ruined' to me. He's had the same conditions as before he used sugar and the plant turned around right after using sugar. So how do you explain this? I'll make it easy for you, SUGAR! Redrosesforabluelady, I hope your realize that just because a moderator says it doesn't mean its not "Bullchitman". Go ahead and ban me latewood, I don't want to be apart of a community with moderators like yourself that are on a power trip, we all know how Germans get on power trips, ;) So heres page 290 in Marijuana Horticuture the Medical Grower's Bible. Also I thought I'd leave you with this, Strike another one up for latewood, another user and bad reputation for cannabis.com. What a great moderator :cool:


lol...great..jus had to make sure...thnx again like usual... ;)


http://www.ganja.co.uk/cannabis-seeds/index.html
Theres a link to pukka seeds, all those other companies are in the catalogue as well.
I think I'll buy my seeds from nirvana, their seeds are so much cheaper than pukka's. Thanks smoky.


Thanks mcsmoky, but since you seem to know so much may I ask for a little more advice?


http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=80415


its all good brah...'preciate all tha help....i also saved all the trim leaves and wha not that were covered in trics...imma try an make some hash :D...hope all goes well ;) Pzzz


thnx....brah...i really 'preciate all ur help...its def been more than helpful...im gettin a lil confused here and there wit folks tellin me diff. orders and diff meanings...but thnx for clearin it all up...yea i was pretty amazed wit the pics myself lol....i guess imma go clip a piece of the cola :( and find out which is sativa/indica so i get a better idea when to harvest... ;) o wait u said "nip a few calyx's off the top of the cola"...jus the cal or a nice lil piece of bud.....??


yes u have been a tremendous help brah....i have learned alot jus from wha u have told me....and like u said im jus gonna have to find out form experience as well...im jus gonna go by the info u have shared wit me and my own judgment and c how i like them in different stages and what not...again thnx for all the help thru this trics check and sh*t, i will keep u updated....Pzzz


It's weird, I do keep finding references to NL#1 being an IBL. Hm, I tend to believe you though Smoky.


Thanks for putting things in perspective Smoky and Stinky. I'll post some updated pictures in a week or so.


Thanks for the reply smoky, the yellow spots just showed up today and they're quite small. I will take a picture in time.


I'm with smoky, at least 4 more weeks.


tnx for all tha input guys....yea smoky im still wit u,


I agree with all you just said, ... I should have pointed out to him, that the original version probably isn't relevant these days, likely rare to find ... you have a good attitude .. like me, you are only here to help ... :thumbsup: , :smokin:



thanks smoky and everyone else who has helped

[the image reaper]

Smokey, I have to throw something in here ... yes, you seem to be an experienced grower, and an intelligent person ... unfortunately, your head is too big for your hat sometimes ... because you know a LOT, does not mean you know EVERYTHING ... I have run across a couple of erroneous statements by you, but unlike you, I did not have the uncontrollable urge to tell someone they don't know what they're talking about ... you can be a big help here, but you'd be a bigger help, if you'd just lighten up ... maybe you should go smoke some of that herb you've grown ... just chill ... :smokin:

[latewood]

Well, we took a vote...smoky, you let your mouth over load your butt, and we have had all the 'chitman' we can take...see ya...

p.s. by your request. this is for your verbal assault on other members.

[newtoitallgurrl]

well I think that it will just be crappy if you ban someone for just stating a opinion, I think it was just a matter of not feeling respected as a mod. Latewood you have not exactly been the kindest person as well, I have read alot of your postings being just as ignorant as the next person. Hell if all it takes was to stat your opinion wether it was liked or not then a hell of a lot of ppl should need to be banned. I mean isnt that what this site is for giveing opinions and helpful info, not one person in here is the god of growing cannabis! everyone here had to start form one place or another, yes many have had great results,but hey if someone wants to try something they heard, then let them, I mean I just felt sorry for my plant and knew gatorade made me fell better when I was dehydrated so why not a plant, I had no idea it was the sugar in the drink. Call me a dumb blone but it helped! who knows it could turn out to be shit weed or be the sweetest/orangest tasting stuff I have ever smoked. If it does the job then yes I will always back the sugar in the water, so sorry you probably got pissed for feeling lack of respect from smokey, as I saw in many threads you two bumped heads alot, but he shouldnt be kicked off for his opinions. Loved ya till ya made me not love ya LATER PEACE;)

[latewood]

This was a team decision, and this isn't overgrow...So don't think the Moderators here are going to put up with any crap!
Now you stated, that we have bumped heads before...Yeah I called him for being a jerk maybe once. and I have only replied to 2-3 threads that SMc was involved with. So you don't know what you are talking about.
I will re-iterate that I have never gone to any site and gotten into a pissing contest with the Mod team and I don't understand why any of you think you can do it here. It's not gonna happen.
On another note...I am not here to win your approval. I am here because I was appointed as a knowledgable & more than helpful member of the cultivation forums. So I advise you to mind your business and enjoy all the "Free" info and enjoyable features here at Cdot and stay out of Administration business. the choice is yours.
And In closing I don't care if you like me or not...that is your problem.

As m.g. said go ahead and keep using gatorade...evidently you have no desire to learn from known experts here. peace good luck with your grow. latewood


p.s.

Smoky mcpot 05 [quote]
so you come on this thread and run your mouth off about something completely of topic and say I'm the one starting shit? Your the one with the attitude problem. I've helped many people on these boards why don't you just run your mouth off on the non-growing threads and leave these to the people with actual growing experience. I've proven myself and what I know. Have a user that has even seen my past grows, so excuse my french, but fuck you, you little punk. Post things relavent to the thread.

This is what led to his ban.

Let me clear up a couple things for you.

1st) I am a member too, a longstanding member. I have the same right as everyone else to post my opinion. Most generally I post only when newer inexperienced members are being mis-lead...as in this thread

[kush07]

Smoky told me that he appreciates your words newtoitallgurrl. He's glad that someone else sees his point. Latewood I just think its ironic that you didn't ban smoky until he said something about you. So what do you have to say about the page smoky posted before he left? Do you not consider Jorge Cervantes a expert? Anyway, I hope we can all learn to get along and respect others opinions wither they be a moderator or not.

Happy Toking :rasta:

[newtoitallgurrl]

It was not intended to get into what you mods do, but I thought this was about cannabis growing and helpful tip on the subject not about outher "harmful drugs" I have learned alot in this site especially for my hydro girls, and so there if someone was to accuse me of using something harmful to them such as he was this is all about growing and helping US new ppl that are trying to do this, I am a Registered medical user and do appreciate the "free" advise and knowledge of others but as I stated before if its shit then I learned from my own mistakes not the help of others here, It is one plant that I put a seed in dirt and it grew, but I do not see the big Idea about why so many ppl in this thread jumped on the opportunity to bring others down in what they have tried, and maybe the mods need to set rules about putting others down, telling them they are retarded or what have you, take it like this you gave ur 2 cents and that was it, I saw many ppl in this thread keep up with a as you called it a PISSING CONTEST and for your info this here that I state my OPINION if smokey got banned for his verbale abuse then read back on this thread and see all the FU'S and BS that was put in on this thread, and as for the input from M.G. all he stated was gumm up and bugs, nothing about buds not getting bigger nor killing your plants. so to be honest I dont know why all the BS in this subject any how.
PS I like everyone, I just don't like when some ppl that do the same as other get the boot and not them. and your right this is not a who can pee farther than others site to begin with and if I felt my gatorade which contained SUGAR helped my plant out the so be it. But you were right in the mix of takling crap and being just a immature as others. and that my friend IS MY OPINION! lotsa love to ya, my plant has lots of greenery and it also has ALOT of BUDS growing, so there;)

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All this foliage and no buds??? Makes me want to run out and make some sugar water...roflmao"

[latewood]

We can joke too...I wasn't being immature, I was stating the truth. I never posted any FU's. telling me "so there" is real immature. Since you bring up maturity. What a copout!

When a mod warns you; you better move on. simple as that. smoky didn't, he was obnoxious to people, and I was going to ban him last night, but I asked the team what they thought 1st...that is why it was after his reponse today.

kush07...I knew you would respond...Know why??? You have 2 of the exact same IP's as smoky, and we are investigating if you are the same person...so far other mods seem to think so. If you find yourself banned it will be for that reason.

I hope all your plants come out great. And m.g. was telling you he thought that was a bad thing to do...read between the lines, Duh

I'm done with the childness. if you want to enjoy yourself here move on...this is all the time I plan on taking away from my other duties here. BTW...I haven't banned 1/10 the people other Mods here have. If you research alot of controversial posts, you will find I lean more towards freedom of speech. So get your facts straight people or we will give you a vacation too!

When you start naming me in every response, I take that as a personal attack...a banning offense. peace

[redrosesforabluelady]

well i think eveyrone will stop now after someone got banned so yea i put up pictures of how my plant is doin now in a new thread cause this onw went way teh fuck downhill... and i decided to stop using sugar and just experiment on 4 plants inside everyoen chekc out my new thread and tell em what you think

[kush07]

We can joke too...I wasn't being immature, I was stating the truth. I never posted any FU's. telling me "so there" is real immature. Since you bring up maturity. What a copout!

When a mod warns you; you better move on. simple as that. smoky didn't, he was obnoxious to people, and I was going to ban him last night, but I asked the team what they thought 1st...that is why it was after his reponse today.

kush07...I knew you would respond...Know why??? You have 2 of the exact same IP's as smoky, and we are investigating if you are the same person...so far other mods seem to think so. If you find yourself banned it will be for that reason.

I hope all your plants come out great. And m.g. was telling you he thought that was a bad thing to do...read between the lines, Duh

I'm done with the childness. if you want to enjoy yourself here move on...this is all the time I plan on taking away from my other duties here. BTW...I haven't banned 1/10 the people other Mods here have. If you research alot of controversial posts, you will find I lean more towards freedom of speech. So get your facts straight people or we will give you a vacation too!

When you start naming me in every response, I take that as a personal attack...a banning offense. peace

It doesn't suprise me that we have the same IP's because I am visiting him. I know I am not the same person. If posting from the same IP makes you worthy of a ban I would have liked to had some forewarning about it. If you think I am the same person then so be it. If this is some scare tactic then I find it quite low. Keep it calm and grow happy.

Happy Toking :rasta:

[justlovingit420]

cant we all just get along lol

[redrosesforabluelady]

no for some odd reason they cant.... thats why m ythread got ruined and i had to make a new one to post pics EVERYONE GO LOOK AT THEM AND LEAVE SOME FEEDBACK

[BOYZNUS]

ok then...when you start getting odd shaped, coppery colored spots breaking out on your leaves you'll know what the problem is


AND WHAT WOULD THE PROBLEM BE? I CAN'T FIND THAT IN MY SICKNESS BOOK.

HMMMMM, NOTHING ABOUT COPPERY SPOTS CAUSED BY SUGAR.

I MUST NEED A NEW BOOK.?