Purple Erkle / AK47 GrOw

[dusto2k3]

I have 6 purp erkle and 3 ak47. Just started flowering yesterday.

4'x4' hydro hut
1000w HPS

I'm using canna nutes

I had been vegging for 6 weeks since i got the clones since july 13 and 14.

No problems so far.

Anyone see anything that should be addressed?

[orangeman]

Well atleast for me, it's hard to tell if anything is going grow unless it's a nute burn on the foliage with those HPS lights on lol but to me everything looks fine & dandy ^_^....wait, I believe I've seen that grow environment before. Wtf lol, ok is that like a box you can buy or something? I've seen some one else on here post pics with that same lookin box.

[dusto2k3]

yeah dude, i've posted the setup on hewre before. But i had it setup for vegg. Yeah it's the hydro hut. 52"x52" or just over 4'x4'. It sweet. i just have it hanging out in my computer room with me. The box costs 280. They also have a 3'x3' and a 4'x8' box as well.

There is sslight nute burn on one plant, but that is old foliage. new stuff is great. Everthing seems good now.

I'ma keep this thing updates for all to see!
:rasta:

HEY ANYONE IN THE San Diego/North County area?

I'm looking for some clones or somthing.

Anyone tried Original Haze #2? I just ordered some seeds from Dr. Chronic.

[smoky mcpot 05]

Great setup, Great Grow, A+++ all the way

[dusto2k3]

Smokey, thanks dude. I hope it turns out as good as it looks {/hoping}

[dusto2k3]

Orange or Smokey or anyone

Lemme ask you this. I got the ak47 clones july 13. Since then the leafs had only 3 leaflets. Just a few days ago, the plant began putting out leafs w/5 leaflets.

You know why this took so long (6 weeks or so)?

[YASoob]

hey dusto2k3, where did u get purple erkle seeds?

[dusto2k3]

YASoob, i live in San Diego and am i medical marijuana patient. I bought clones from one of the dispensarys before they were raided/shut down by the DEA. If you live in SOCAL and want some i'd be happy to get some to ya. I have AK-47 too.

[email protected]

[Racerx]

Orange or Smokey or anyone

Lemme ask you this. I got the ak47 clones july 13. Since then the leafs had only 3 leaflets. Just a few days ago, the plant began putting out leafs w/5 leaflets.

You know why this took so long (6 weeks or so)?

AK-47 is a weird plant. I am helping a grow with 2 of them. One of them has never produced anything but 3 leafs. The other started only 3 leaf, moved to 5, now is back to half 3 and half 5. Its 3 weeks into flowering but stayed mostly 3 leaf during veg. I am curious to see if your AK are the quickest to start bud development. Looking good.

Though, hard to tell with the pics, but how far is the glass from the top of the canopy? Looks kind of far to me.

[dusto2k3]

i have it 20 inches away. It stays pretty cool, i should probably move it closer or what?

[Racerx]

i have it 20 inches away. It stays pretty cool, i should probably move it closer or what?

Well you generally want it 12" or less. This allows you to utilize as many lumens as possible, otherwise they start to drastically drop off as you get farther and farther away. Moving it closer will effectively lessen the light's footprint, so sometimes you must make somewhat of a compromise. Remember though, you will probably end up with more and better bud with fewer plants and a very close light rather then more plants and a light that is farther away. This all depends on the type of hood, the environment, the age of the bulb, etc.

I keep all my lights at about 8-12". It can get warm, but I keep the air moving underneith the hood so the temp is effectively lowered.

[orangeman]

YASoob, i live in San Diego and am i medical marijuana patient. I bought clones from one of the dispensarys before they were raided/shut down by the DEA. If you live in SOCAL and want some i'd be happy to get some to ya. I have AK-47 too.

[email protected]

Lucky motha fucka!

[dusto2k3]

Not much happenin here.

The growth on the Ak's is super dense.

This is like...day three of flowering

[YASoob]

YASoob, i live in San Diego and am i medical marijuana patient. I bought clones from one of the dispensarys before they were raided/shut down by the DEA. If you live in SOCAL and want some i'd be happy to get some to ya. I have AK-47 too.

oh man, that be great. but then again, i'm so scared. I don't want to break rule 1. but oh man, purple erkle and ak47, its so tempting.:dance:

[L0r6dIN6faM6ous]

its been awhile

any hairs yet?

[dusto2k3]

yeah, i have many hairs. HEre are some pics. There were hairs from the get go as i got them as clones. Now there are many many more

The only problem i'm running into is that it is really hot here in San Diego now and in my grow room it gets up to 92 at the hottest part of the day. I have a little window AC unit that is coming, but its not supposed to be here until sep.8. Damn. So i'm freezing gallons of water in hopes of placing huge ice cubes in the room around the plants.

Think this will work temporarily?


.:thumbsup:

[bluntman2006]

yeah dude, i've posted the setup on hewre before. But i had it setup for vegg. Yeah it's the hydro hut. 52"x52" or just over 4'x4'. It sweet. i just have it hanging out in my computer room with me. The box costs 280. They also have a 3'x3' and a 4'x8' box as well.

There is sslight nute burn on one plant, but that is old foliage. new stuff is great. Everthing seems good now.

I'ma keep this thing updates for all to see!
:rasta:

HEY ANYONE IN THE San Diego/North County area?

I'm looking for some clones or somthing.

Anyone tried Original Haze #2? I just ordered some seeds from Dr. Chronic.:thumbsup: man that tent is nice for what i need to run the 400w hps i have to say thanks because i was thinking of getting one,now!I know i will descent for your money and it doesn't weigh that much nice set up dusto:smokin: and good luck on dr chronic

[Markass]

I think I'm going to move to california in a couple of years..

[dusto2k3]

Everythings sweet startin' to stink.

Look at the last picture. It's this little bug that cruises arounds the underside of the leafs. It really small and they are a beige color. Anyone know what these are?

I have to keep my grow room open for a few more days until i get the ac unit we ordered. Once that gets here, i plan on putting some ladybugs in there.

[L0r6dIN6faM6ous]

you should get an intake fan and also an exhaust fan too for your little tent..

a nice AC will be good when you get it.

untill then try using a fan or 2

[dusto2k3]

I have good ventilation. I have a 4" vortex at the top pulling air out and have ducxting pulling in fresh air commin from outside now. The vortex is 172 cfm and the growroom is 145 cfm. There are fans moving air clipped to the poles.

[bluntman2006]

I have good ventilation. I have a 4" vortex at the top pulling air out and have ducxting pulling in fresh air commin from outside now. The vortex is 172 cfm and the growroom is 145 cfm. There are fans moving air clipped to the poles.nice:thumbsup:

[dusto2k3]

Thanks Blunt.

[dusto2k3]

So i am growing clones too. First time that why these questions.

They have good amount or roots and are still in the small rw cubes. Say the roots are sprouting out and dangling on some. When should I take the humidity dome off of them?

Right now my ak-47 clones are lookin yellowish. While, in the same conditions, the purple urkle clones are dark green. Different needs for diff. plants?

[YASoob]

you can take the dome off when theres a nice root bound.

I never did this before (cause i only cloned from 1 mother) but try adding a drop or less then a drop to one of those RW with rootbound to see if it will green up later (just an experiment i just thought of).

[SpiritLevel]

brilliant !!!!! shame about the bugs.. we got the same at the moment.. I think it's particularly the time of year

[doco]

Hey Dusto2k3, I'm in your neck of the woods too, down here in PB. I'm thinking about one of those Hydro Huts and wanted to ask a couple of questions: what are you using for intake and exhaust fans? Did you get the dual flange kit for the intake fan or how do you have that set up? I'll be using a 400w HPS (with some supplemental CFL for blue light during veg) and I don't wanna bake the girls quite yet! I'm starting it off with four 12" pots. This will be my first indoor grow with real lights and I wanna do it up right but damn, this is getting expensive - I coulda bought a z or two by now! Anybody else wants to answer too, thats fine...more the merrier.

[L0r6dIN6faM6ous]

if your clones got roots 1 inch or more then plant em and take the dome off of em

[dusto2k3]

DOCO, GOOD QUESTIONS. i WISH I HAD THOSE WHEN I WAS BUYING MINE. Sorry, bout caps. But yeah. So the first pic is of my extraction fan. It is a 4" vortex. Right now it only has a screen to stop stuff from being sucked in. When needed we will attatch our carbon filter that came in the mail yesterday there. The next pic is the 1K hps. It is attatched to a 6" vortex. It effectivley controls any heat coming from the lamp. However, due to the intensity, we have to keep it about 15 inches from the plants.

To attatch the 6" vortex, we still need to go purchase one more 6" dual (as you can see by the picture). We got one when we first got the hut. One kit for the intake side and one kit for the exhaust side. We suck in air from an A/C unit and exhaust it through the ventilation in the house. For the airflow in the hut, like i said there is a 4" vortex. Again, the hut only comes with one single flange kit. So we had to purchase 2 more kits as well. We put a flfange on the inside and outside of all 4 holes. Oh yeah, we had to cut holes to mount the 6"ers.

My buddy lives on the beach down there and he has had problems with mold when he grows on his balcony. He would bring it in at night, but he still had issues, so watch your humidity living so close to the beach :jealous:.

In our tent, there are 9 plants. i think we let'em get too big, but we'll see. We plan on doin one of these ops where you have like 16 plants and flower after only two weeks or so next time to see what happens.

This is our first real grow and i totally know what your talking about $$$$. I could have gotten around an 3/4 elbow by now.

Definitely get one of those temp./humidity monitors with the little probe. You can hang it from the light to find the closest distance possible for the light.

We had some little pests...bugs, but put some ladybugs in there and they all got assasinated pretty quickly. Now i cant find a bad bug.

DR CHRONIC is da shit. Just got Ultra Haze #2 in the mail.. YYeeeeaaaahhh and he kicked down some free troublemaker.

[floyd2zapper]

Hi Dusto.

You should train your clones to life outside the dome because it will shock them to come straight out.Take the lid of 30 mins at a time 2 times a day
for 2 days. then 45-60 mins a day if it looks like they can cope i would do this for about 5 days impatience is the biggest killer of plants.

Hope this helps.

Floyd

[SpiritLevel]

looing good, just had 60 * AK47 clones arrive in 1" cubes. nice white roots, going to veg them for 1 week then flower. can't wait

[dusto2k3]

Spiritlevel, your super stoked. Mine are lookin nice. 60 of them would look swweeeeeettt!!!

[dusto2k3]

Floyd, didn't have a chance to do that, lookin ok anyway. Thanks for the input.

[dusto2k3]

So here's an update. We have some nice buds forming and its about 2 weeks into flowering.

Also, 4 out of 5 Fem Ultra Haze #2 seeds sprouted. I'll be stoked on that.

[doco]

Lookin good so far. You should get some amazing fat buds as big as your arm from these beauties. The HID light is definitely the way to go if you can deal with the heat issues like you have. What do you figure the cost of that setup is, with the vortex fans and all?

I'll be watching this thread to see how your Haze grow goes too...I also got some Haze beans from the doc but I'm waiting to see how some other indoor sativa grows go. They can be some giant ass plants!

[L0r6dIN6faM6ous]

lookin nice,

always love the ak-47 grows :)

[dusto2k3]

Doco, glad i could be the guinea pig. But yeah, the setup after everything was done...probably right around 3k. It'll be worth it hopefully after a harvest or two.

I have 4 seedlings. I'm probably gonna clone early to be sure of the sex and then probAbly flower 3 of them and keep 1 for a mom. I'll probably start a thread for th UL haze 2. I dont know...school is getting bothersome...they are expecting me to read and what not....damn.

[SpiritLevel]

Looking very developed for 2 weeks in.. you got the knack

[dusto2k3]

thanks spirit.

Lord6...thanks for all you input.

[dusto2k3]

So week 3.5 is here and buds are swweeeet. Nice fruity smell coming from the Ak-47 and a skunky smell commin from the Purps. No issues, maybe the AKs are lacking some N.

Any tips on getting some N in them.?

[postmandave]

damn nice grow dusto.i gotta get some of this ak im following yours and floyds grows as ak is becoming a intresting strain for me to add to my garden so thatnks for showing your grow . exellent mate.be safe the postman.

[LIP]

Im also more interested in AK now than ever before. I remember smoking a joint of it and i couldnt finish the spliff, 1st and only time thats EVER happened to me, but i cant find seeds on most of the sites? Oh well.

[floyd2zapper]

Looking great dusto any chance of telling us the yield of the ak47 plants.
when there done.Be checking back on this grow good luck.:)

Lip .get ak47 seeds here.http://www.puresativa.com/serious-seeds.html

[LIP]

Cheers for the link mate.

[Chaos]

wow i wanna see more pics now!!!!!!!!!!!

beautiful plants man!!!!

[dusto2k3]

in the morning......

[TheGreenFog]

Drooling.......seriously. Very nice. Kudos.:thumbsup:

It's awesome to see so many people beating the system. They're ass-backwards. I'm hate having to buy on the blk mrkt. . Grow on!

Be...cool.

TGF

[Chaos]

what kinda camera do you use?

[dusto2k3]

So now they are like 4.5 weeks into flowering. Some of the hairs have begun to turn brownish reddish. Here are some pics.

Chaos, i use a Konica Minolta A2. It takes some pretty sweet pics. The close ups are badass.

[doco]

Hey again Dusto2k3 - looking really nice. I envy your setup a lot and it's the model I'm going to use for my future hydro hut but I've gotta buy the pieces here and there, etc. etc. so my first grow is just a closet setup.

I just got my SDMM card so I'm legal now but since they shut down all the local dispensaries, I'm wondering if there is a good place to get clones locally?

[dusto2k3]

dude, i know you can still get 'em in Orange County. I don't know of anyone locally

http://www.canorml.org/prop/cbclist.html

[doco]

Ya, OC may be the best option. One of the delivery services that I've used told me they are going to have clones soon.

[dusto2k3]

it really sucks they closed them down. THere used to be this kick-ass one over in OB that had clones al the time.

You have tried delivery? for weed for clones? They deliver from LA to SD or what?

[doco]

Naw, just one of the SD delivery services for weed...a small amount as a trial. It was good NYC Diesel but they charged me like $70 for an eighth so it was pricey but I wanted to check out what they considered "premium". I'm gonna check out one of the other delivery services in the next week or two.

[dusto2k3]

strange, i saw them listed on the site but i didnt knoe they were still delivering, shit, maybe one of the hard nights ill have to give 'em a try.

[tekneeqs]

are ur plants still in those pots shown on first page of thread?
what size are they now?

[dusto2k3]

yeah same pots. 2 gal is the size. Once they are done, I'll be interested to see whats going on in the roots of all of them.

[dusto2k3]

Damn, had my first issue today. I woke up and they were drooping, not from malnutrition, but cuz the buds are so heavy. Had to put a lot of fishing line in a grid to hold 'em up.

[BlueBear]

How long untill harvest? Are those real 2 gallon pots or the 1.6 that alot of grow shops call 2 gallons? Good luck, keep us posted.
Adieu

[dusto2k3]

Bluebear, I wish i knew how long til harvest. I got all these clones and no information on an apprx. flowering time. So, i am going to have to let the plants do the telling. My buddy has supplies me with one of those little microscopes from radio shack. I'll have to use that. The buds still look might premie, as tomorrow will be the start of week 5. I'm thinkin somewhere around 3 to 4 weeks...maybe 5????

The pots i got at Home Depot. On the bottom, it gives the volume in Liters, but i did the math and its 2 gal. i think it was 7.8 liters or something like that.

I plan on getting square pots for the next grow, preferably smaller because with only 1 1K hps, i think we will do better with sog. i am gonna try like 20 in there next.

[faithlessxxx]

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Looking delicious...mmm.

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[dusto2k3]

friggin shit.

so the last couple of days are sad as fuck. Looks like the element we didn;t have some control over ended up hermitizing the purple urkle plants. Like 3 weeks ago here in socal there was a wicked heat spell. The temps in the room got up to 102 degrees. Ya'll think this is a good guess to why this happened?

Now i look in some of the buds and there are beans.ahhhh. :(.

They are starting week 7 tomorrow. This sucks. The 3 AK plants don;t have signs and not all the purps were affected. I think they are just gonna stay in and finish the last couple of weeks. Fuck.

:o<----all these damn happy faces, i need one swimming in a toilet or something.

[invision]

worst case senerio you have a bunch of feminized seeds

[doco]

How about an update Dusto2k3??

[doco]

ok Dusto2k3 I am giving up the 125w x3 CFL...they just get too damn hot. If I'm gonna battle heat I may as well get all the lumens I can with a 400w HID so I ordered a Hydrohut Mini and a cooltube for my MH/HPS. My question for you since we live in the same county is: I currently have a 6" Vortex 455cfm and a 4" Dayton 265cfm squirrel cage - I'm planning on venting similar to the way you did - the 6" Vortex to draw air from the outside room through the cooltube and out the window while the Dayton will just exhaust air from the Hydrohut into the room. I saw you started out with a duct fan for air intake and I was planning on going passive intake if I could...what are your thoughts now that you have put some time in with the Hydro Hut and our local weather? I can get another small fan for intake if I need it. I'm using a 400w and I know you had 1000w - that must have been murder when we had that heat wave back in July!!!!

Here's a drawing of what I'm planning, which I think will require two 6" duct flange kits?:

[dusto2k3]

DOCO, hey dude, here's they final deal. So from those 9 plants i grew I got 14 ounces dry. I'm not too sure how that is as far as harvest, but it was OK. The AK was DANK, and the purple erkle, i think wasn't purple erkle in the end. OH well. I'm growning it again now, but after my current grow it will be gone. I am gonna grow only AK47. I am flowering 3 Ultra Haze now alony with 8 AK and 7 of the fake P.E.

About your setup. That squirrel cage fan hooked to your filter will create negative pressure. I dont think that is good. My exhaust fan is a 4" vortex that moves like 172 CFM. Even with the 3 passive intakes along the bottom and a small 4" inline duct fan (80 CFM), I STILL have a neg pressure in there( reference the shitty sketch...). I recomend you get a speed dial for that squirrel cage fan. That way you can turn it down and equal out the pressures a little.

Last grow our temps got a little out of control. I'm in north county so its a little hotter here in shit marcos. We now have a small window mounted AC unit and we are running the 1k HPS at night to keep temps up a little as it is starting to get cold now. If it gets real hot in the day, we have to AC so everything should be OK as far as the temps now. Running the light at night is working a lot better.

Your set up looks just like mine. Do you live in an APT or house down there? I see you are venting your light outside thru the window. I just constructed a phlange and am venting the sxhaust for the room and the lamp into the heating vents that are in the house.

[dusto2k3]

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[doco]

Hey Dusto2k3, whats up!? Sounds like you had a nice harvest there, I would be happy with that! Are you going to do a log on the current grow?

As you can see my plans changed a bit along the way. Multiple big 125w CFLs are hot, I don't care what anyone says and I just couldnt get good ventilation in the closet. So I got the hydro mini and patterned it after yours to a large part and went right to a 400w HID. After battling the temps from the CFLs I was a little gunshy but the cooltube works fantastic and now I think I shoulda got a 600w or maybe a 1000w...the cooltube and 6" vortex easily handle that end of it. It's an HPS ballast and Ive got a Metal Halide conversion bulb in it for vegging.

Here's a shot of the setup: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=88985&page=2

So I got off to several missteps and killed a bunch of seedlings by over watering till this last group survived my brutality. I've got 9 plants from seed at about 2 1/2 weeks on their 4th nodes. One Cinderella 99, one TroubleMaker (Hindu Kush/Master Kush I think, something like that.) and the rest bagseed, some killer, some schwag. Im supposed to get some Mango clones shortly from one of our generous members here and I'll veg them all till I can sex them and cull out the weaklings. Obviously the Mango are females and the C-99 was a feminized seed so if I didn't stress it too badly it should be a female as well.

I'll start a log next weekend...my seedlings were too pathetic and embarrassing but theyve pulled through and are doing well, now that Im not drowning them!

Thanks for all the advice & encouragement!!