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NextLineIsMine
08-30-2006, 04:54 AM
Im curious to know what everyone on Cannabis.com believes in. I myself am a staunch atheist.
just to stir up a little RESPECTFUL debate on the side, Wouldnt you get bored in heaven? Youre supposedly there for an eternity so what would keep you amused for say 3 million years?
SocksThaClown
08-30-2006, 04:59 AM
Well seeing as i am simple minded. Probably a ball or something.
chris420
08-30-2006, 05:01 AM
Whatever we find pleasurable during our life in my case it would be smoking grass and getting laid, thats not against any dogma is it ?
SmokingPlatypus
08-30-2006, 05:09 AM
A yo-yo and a lot of marijuana.
dryst
08-30-2006, 05:10 AM
im agnostic
sanguinekane
08-30-2006, 05:37 AM
Hellenic/Kemetic Reconstructionism here (wiki article cus I know most people havn't heard of either of those, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Reconstructionism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemetic_reconstructionism )
As for what would keep me entertained in the afterlife? Friends, family, some good movies and tunes, and good old maryjane.
420purplehaze420
08-30-2006, 05:38 AM
I beleive people when they say that dinosaurs are real, cause either that or its one hell of a well played out prank
so from that you should be able to guess my answer
NextLineIsMine
08-30-2006, 05:53 AM
were talking about eternity though man. What about when you got to that point when you had talked about everything there was to talk about and done everything you could ever do. I just cant concieve of existing endlessly.
I believe in a supreme being but i still consider myself agnostic. I constantly think of where all the matter in the universe came from so either a supreme being put it there or we are living inside of this surpeme being.
Oneironaut
08-30-2006, 05:58 AM
Militant atheist (see signature).
FeastonThisSHITT
08-30-2006, 06:11 AM
were talking about eternity though man. What about when you got to that point when you had talked about everything there was to talk about and done everything you could ever do. I just cant concieve of existing endlessly.
I have a hunch that when you are out of your bodily form, time is a non-issue. Neither is Boredom.
I believe that we are in a continium of endless existance. I believe that there is a spiritual level of existance in our subconsiousness, as well as the subconsciousness of animals. We live in the physical level of existance while we are alive in this lifetime, but are still connected to the spiritual realm through our minds, we just can't handle the reality of ... well reality, so our brain only uses as much of itself as it can handle for the time being. (10-12%?).
I believe that through the use of some substances, such as salvia divinorum, ayahausca, mushrooms, etc, we can gain small insights into the spiritual world we are "blocked" off from. Dreams as well.
When I was high off of 1 Ounce of mushrooms, I truly felt like I was experiencing the different dimensions meshed together. It was not a pleasant experience, I was having trouble integrating the situation. I could see reality as it was, but there were layers behind it, every sense was a feeling that existed on it's own accord.
It's too hard to properly describe what I believe. Let's just say I am agnostic, since I am not mono or polytheistic, I can't make sense of what the spiritual realm really is, but I know it exists.
I think it is arrogant to assume one knows EXACTLY what happens when you die. I mean, that is what it all boils down to right? When you die, you get the answer, which religion was right? Were they all wrong? No more debates, just the truth.
I've heard some people say "But maybe they are all right in their own way?" Umm... These religions directly conflict with each other, so if one was right the others have to be wrong. If you see pearly gates, the Bhuddists were wrong, If you become reborn in another life form, the theists were wrong.
Anyone ever see the southpark episode where a bunch of people go to hell? I think they hit it bang on with that message.
"But I was a devout catholic, or I was a perfect Muslim, or hindu or Bhuddist?"
"I'm sorry to inform you, but uh.... the mormons were the correct choice"
and everyone sighs... dammnit, I picked the wrong one.
FeastonThisSHITT
08-30-2006, 06:14 AM
I kinda hope that I have a chance to meet my christian friends in the after life and tell them "HA!, I told you you were fuckin wrong"
maybe they will be sayin it to me... we will see.
In a wierd kinda way, it's making me curious almost like I wanna see now. But of course that's not gunna happen, I'll just chill and smoke weed until the end comes.
Oneironaut
08-30-2006, 06:19 AM
Anyone ever see the southpark episode where a bunch of people go to hell? I think they hit it bang on with that message.
"But I was a devout catholic, or I was a perfect Muslim, or hindu or Bhuddist?"
"I'm sorry to inform you, but uh.... the mormons were the correct choice"
and everyone sighs... dammnit, I picked the wrong one.
YouTube kicks ass. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBTqWVL9LHw&mode=related&search=
if there is a heaven and our spirits go there when we die, we won't suffer the falls of the flesh.
Breukelen advocaat
08-30-2006, 06:20 AM
Note: All posts made by me are totaly non-fictional. I 100% encourage the growing and using of illegal substances. I grow marijuana in my house and I encourage law enforcement to try and track me down. I smoke marijauana as well as other illegal substances and condone and encourage others to do the same.
I like that anti-"disclaimer", lol! :thumbsup:
"Try and track me down" - a classic. :dance:
To answer the original question, I am an Atheist. I have an American Atheist membership certificate, signed by Madlyn Murray O'Hair, with my name on it.
FeastonThisSHITT
08-30-2006, 06:25 AM
YouTube kicks ass. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBTqWVL9LHw&mode=related&search=
Lol, Thanks, I forgot how they worded it.
buddymyfriend
08-30-2006, 10:12 AM
Im curious to know what everyone on Cannabis.com believes in. I myself am a staunch atheist.
just to stir up a little RESPECTFUL debate on the side, Wouldnt you get bored in heaven? Youre supposedly there for an eternity so what would keep you amused for say 3 million years?
Atheist here, I believe religion is for the weak, its an emotional crutch. Just my :twocents:
Peace
Buddy
Reefer Rogue
08-30-2006, 10:13 AM
I'm agnostic.
intrepidus6
08-30-2006, 10:19 AM
I don't follow any set dogma, but I do have very strong spiritual/religius beliefs.
It's very complicated to explain, but I will try:
I recieved a number of "visions" which aparentally other people have had as well, there is a "supreme being" but nothing like a "God" now, there are Gods, but the supreme being is different. We are all part of the supreme being, but we just don't allways realise it.
When you die a number of things can happen. If you are hindu, you get reincarnated, if you are Christain, you go to heaven, etc.
It's all very complecated and I can't explain every detail of it.
Green Love
08-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Baptist.
Oneironaut
08-30-2006, 12:01 PM
As to the boredom question, I agree, heaven would become an agonizing place to live. Especially if hell also exists; imagine having to spend eternity knowing some of your loved ones are being tortured for eternity and there's nothing you can do about it, just because they committed sins and didn't repent.
Anywho, in an eternal heaven, you would eventually experience everything there is to experience. Then you would experience it all over again. And again. And again. For all eternity. Experiencing everything there is to experience over and over and over again. You'd be begging God to end your cursed existence once and for all.
We are temporary creatures. We die and then we're dead forever. Let's not forget that it's a good thing.
im not sure... agnostic... but i think the teachings of buddah are very good.... more of a philosophy than religion, and it doenst compete with science or teach hate
intrepidus6
08-30-2006, 12:35 PM
sanguinekane, may I ask what "sanguine" means to you?
dryst
08-30-2006, 01:18 PM
I don't exactly have a religion..if anything i guess i'd be atheist. But i do believe there is some sort of higher force/being but i have absolutely no idea what it is. It is probably some kind of energy.
I do however think that believing in a god is rather dumb..it's basically a way of looking for an easy answer to an impossible ideal. I don't think people should limit themselves to 1 view. We as humans can't really comprehend existence..so we make up religions to try and somehow explain it.
HUMANS MADE UP GOD, NOT GOD MADE HUMANS!
thatd make u agnostic... :D
JMRinFLA
08-30-2006, 03:24 PM
Pagan. I beieve the Earth has it's own life force and that Gods are found only in the natural world.
Mr.Jesus
08-30-2006, 05:22 PM
i was born protestant, but ive only been to church like once and i didnt like it so i didnt go back and i dont really belive in it anyways. so yeah.
IanCurtisWishlist
08-30-2006, 06:26 PM
I was born Christian and gave up Christ when I wanted to become Jewish. Then I got tired of reading about religious texts and realized that people have been contemplating the very same thing , fighting over the very same thing for thousands of years. So I've abandoned conventional religion altogether, because I don't believe it takes belief in something unseen to find the kingdom of heaven.
My personal beliefs tend to be Buddhist for the simple reason that I feel we can detach from suffering with the right kind of attitude. I reject Christianity because I know the scriptures have been changed, manipulated and perverted--not to mention all the atrocities committed by Christians and Catholics over the years. It is basically a confidence trick--to submit to the will of Jesus is submitting to the will of church. The Church , before it was the nice friendly place where you could get saved , was just another word for political ruler. The church told everybody what to do, how to do it, told the people of the Pope's "papal infalibility". To top it all off--to ensure that you do whatever they say, they falsify a story of how you will burn in hell (literately feeling your flesh burning) forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever, should you choose to reject Jesus Christ as a savior (thus rejecting the church's form of mind control over fearful people).
As history proves it, the church (and most religious institutions) have been used as a tool to control everybody. We see this in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as well as other worldly religions.
So, as it is so well-worded and spoken by Eve Libertine of Crass, "I'll make no subscription to your paradise". Bravo! We don't need people telling us what is right and pure, when the very people telling us what to do are out molesting our boys, fighting wars, suicide bombing, jihading, creating dogma which only hinders the progress and potential of this world.
It's not that I don't believe in a divine god, I just don't believe what I've been told my whole life. If I meet my creator when I die, then I will thank him for giving me such a mind that allowed me to think for myself--for allowing me to reject the heresey spread by the majority of people.
Relgion--it's just another form of mind control.
intrepidus6
08-30-2006, 08:17 PM
RAmen to what IanCurtisWishlist said!
IanCurtisWishlist
08-30-2006, 09:06 PM
RAmen to what IanCurtisWishlist said!
Ramen? Do you mean the delicious prepackaged treat known as... *TOP RAMEN*??
sanguinekane
08-30-2006, 10:27 PM
sanguinekane, may I ask what "sanguine" means to you?
Optimistic, cheerful, vibrant, full of life. Though I do realise it has other definitions.
weedskunkpot
08-30-2006, 10:32 PM
I'm a rusta!:rasta:
Professor Dan K.
08-31-2006, 01:05 AM
I don't exactly have a religion..if anything i guess i'd be atheist. But i do believe there is some sort of higher force/being but i have absolutely no idea what it is. It is probably some kind of energy.
I do however think that believing in a god is rather dumb..it's basically a way of looking for an easy answer to an impossible ideal. I don't think people should limit themselves to 1 view. We as humans can't really comprehend existence..so we make up religions to try and somehow explain it.
HUMANS MADE UP GOD, NOT GOD MADE HUMANS!
QFT man, i agree with you 100%.
I actually hate having this deiscussion because it basically goes on forever, because there is no answer.... infinity is a bitch eh?
One thing to think about though, who created God? Everything has a beginning, unless your talking about time (infinity again).... man im stopping here these types of discussions only result in headaches and grudges, and im not fucked up enough to continue on.
Professor Dan K.
08-31-2006, 01:10 AM
IanCurtisWishlist,
I just read what you said and man that made me think, very well put man. I completely agree with you.
MyMARYJANE
08-31-2006, 01:19 AM
catholic.. im not crazyy into religion though. but i believe in jesus, heaven and all that.
IanCurtisWishlist
08-31-2006, 08:09 AM
IanCurtisWishlist,
I just read what you said and man that made me think, very well put man. I completely agree with you.
mucho gusto :rasta:
intrepidus6
08-31-2006, 09:23 AM
Ramen? Do you mean the delicious prepackaged treat known as... *TOP RAMEN*??
The church of the flying speghetti monster.
intrepidus6
08-31-2006, 09:23 AM
Optimistic, cheerful, vibrant, full of life. Though I do realise it has other definitions.
Blood drinking, of the blood, haveing to do with blood. More often, sanguinarian. ;)
JuggaloAtTheDoor
09-01-2006, 01:48 AM
I kinda hope that I have a chance to meet my christian friends in the after life and tell them "HA!, I told you you were fuckin wrong"
maybe they will be sayin it to me... we will see.
In a wierd kinda way, it's making me curious almost like I wanna see now. But of course that's not gunna happen, I'll just chill and smoke weed until the end comes.
I'm christian, what r we gunna b "fuckin wrong" about??.. I'm just wondering cuz u dont seem 2 beleive it the same way as I do
Oneironaut
09-01-2006, 04:00 AM
Well, obviously, the thing Christians are wrong about is Jesus. Jesus is imaginary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUj8hg5CoSw
Wang Chou
09-01-2006, 04:09 AM
I would have to say Im an Atheist because I personally dont think god exists.
But thats just my opinion
OniEhtRedrum781
09-01-2006, 04:57 AM
I'm catholic. I actually went to church weekly until I was around 10 and my mom told me I had the choice to go or not, I haven't been back since :D
birdgirl73
09-01-2006, 05:09 AM
I'd characterize myself as agnostic.
Yet fairly spiritual nonetheless.
I don't feel militant opposition against those with faith. I like the idea that folks can believe what they want to believe. I don't want others' religious beliefs pressed upon me, my schools or my government, however.
I was raised in a Unitarian fellowship and am a current member in a very liberal, left-leaning, tolerant Presbyterian congregation. I live in the Dallas area, an area that has a higher concentration of Southern Baptist right-wing Christians than nearly any other area of the country.
Fundamental religions of all types scare the liver outta me. Nothing is more terrifying than pious certitude behind a lofty, hypocritical exterior.
Budman37
09-03-2006, 08:04 PM
I belong to no religian of man I am a Scholar and student of Gods Scriptures...The church has corrupted Gods word by false teachings but that doesnt mean Gods Word aren't true...One day when you die you'll find out..."Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" 2 timothy 2:15
"WHY DO I BOTHER"
"Because it's the truth"
Oneironaut
09-03-2006, 08:26 PM
Fundamental religions of all types scare the liver outta me. Nothing is more terrifying than pious certitude behind a lofty, hypocritical exterior.
Precisely. But even moderates, in continuing to publish their "holy scriptures", end up promoting fundamentalism in the long run. Sure, it's nice that most believers cherry pick the good parts out of the scriptures and follow those, then ignore all the hateful crap, but they continue to publish the whole book and call it divine, which is just begging future readers to take the whole thing seriously. Moderate religious people, who don't take their scriptures seriously and are perfectly content to disregard anything in them they personally don't like, are setting the stage for fundamentalism among people who are more intellectually honest with their beliefs and do consider their holy scriptures to be truth.
It's even worse when the religious try to indoctrinate children into their belief systems. It is a form of child abuse to teach children who can't yet reason out the metaphysical arguments around God's existence that they must believe a certain faith and if they do not they will be shunned by their families and sent to burn for eternity after they're dead. I feel it is perfectly justified to stop parents from abusing their children with such belief systems. Sure, everybody has the right to believe whatever they want, but nobody has the right to psychologically abuse a child.
Religions are viruses of the mind (http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/Dawkins/viruses-of-the-mind.html) that require a fresh batch of supple young minds to prey on every generation. Once we stop parents from indoctrinating their children into these irrational superstitions, the viruses will have a much harder time spreading themselves. Ever try to convince a post-pubescent person that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy exist? They don't swallow it up unquestioningly like a four-year-old would.
Jaycub
09-03-2006, 08:57 PM
I like that anti-"disclaimer", lol! :thumbsup:
"Try and track me down" - a classic. :dance:
To answer the original question, I am an Atheist. I have an American Atheist membership certificate, signed by Madlyn Murray O'Hair, with my name on it.
Are you kidding me? O'hair was batshit crazy/awesome. Congrats :)
think green
09-11-2006, 05:31 PM
I'm not necessarily anything, I don't know what to believe. I tend to lean towards Athiesm, but there are also traces of Nihilism and Existentialism.
I'm not trancendent in the slightest, so religion doesn't do anything for me. I'm fairly certain, at least in my conviction, that even if there was some kind of god, all human perceptions of it are incorrect.
It seems to me that a person's religious beliefs are primarily based on neurobiological structure, so I'm cool with diversity. It's annoying when people force their beliefs on others, because seriously, people are different. Even if your beliefs wind up being correct, they wont work for everyone.
As for Heaven, I doubt that, at least in the Christian version, we would all have our current states of consciousness. We'd probably just be energy sitting around, or something.. Can't make too good of a guess.
S.P.Q.R.
09-11-2006, 11:18 PM
Hellenic/Kemetic Reconstructionism here (wiki article cus I know most people havn't heard of either of those, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Reconstructionism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemetic_reconstructionism )
As for what would keep me entertained in the afterlife? Friends, family, some good movies and tunes, and good old maryjane.
I can't believe it, another Hellenic Pagan. I am a hard follower of the ancient Greek faith, and i'm very happy to see another follower on these forums. Because I have to admit, I really didn't expect it lol.
psychocat
09-12-2006, 12:08 AM
sanguinarian. ;)
This word does not exist !
Dictionary.com Unabridged
san‧guine /ˈsæŋgwɪn/ [sang-gwin]
â??adjective 1. cheerfully optimistic, hopeful, or confident: a sanguine disposition; sanguine expectations.
2. reddish; ruddy: a sanguine complexion.
3. (in old physiology) having blood as the predominating humor and consequently being ruddy-faced, cheerful, etc.
4. bloody; sanguinary.
5. blood-red; red.
6. Heraldry. a reddish-purple tincture.
â??noun 7. a red iron-oxide crayon used in making drawings.
PS I believe in me and thats more than enough as far as I'm concerned.
sanguinekane
09-12-2006, 05:01 AM
I can't believe it, another Hellenic Pagan. I am a hard follower of the ancient Greek faith, and i'm very happy to see another follower on these forums. Because I have to admit, I really didn't expect it lol.
Haha, we run into each other in the oddest places. Once encountered another believer over the net on a model gaming forum. May the gods guide you to good things.
pwn3dy0
09-15-2006, 04:29 AM
I don't have a "religion" I have a personal relationship with god. Too much instilling fear, brainwashing, greed and corruption going on with organized religion.
make love on drugs
09-19-2006, 12:48 AM
i am a mesh of ideas, philosophies
i believe in God, or an equal supreme being. This God may manifest itself in anything, it could be a God of everything aroun dme, it could be sitting in a throne, but i couldn't tell you.
I think the spiritual realm is inivisble.
I like to study Buddhism, Wicca, Taoism, Christianity, Paganism, Existentialism, Scientology, Astrology...........just about anything, tiny parts of each one are part of what i believe
I couldnt pick one set religion.
I am very spiritual, I believe in impossiblities, the paranormal, parrallel dimensions and self-fulfillment.
I love nature, i believe in its important within our existence. That there must be a connection there, somewhere...
I do pray to God. The God. A God. Goddess. Whatever we are a part of, whartever rules or flows within us all.
I believe happiness and harmony and peace and love are meant to be the best feeling, everyone must acquire a sense of them, or to acquire whatever senses you are here for
drugs are on this earth because they were meant to be. they may be our lost keys.
There may be a heaven, and a hell, because i believe in karma, and if you don't deserve the greatest you will get the worst because there has to be a parallel to everything. there has to be an up and a down, the heat and the cold.
I believe we make our lives to what we believe they should be.
royalHIGHness
09-19-2006, 01:03 AM
agnostic--believe in some sort of higher power but not necesarilly GOD/JESUS or whatnot...........I think everyone is agnostic to an extent...everyone questions their "god" at some point..........and personally...."god" is just what they sum up their supreme being/power as.....so doesn't that make everyone agnostic? (or am I not making much logical sense?---->muscle relaxers :))
mrdevious
09-19-2006, 01:16 AM
agnostic--believe in some sort of higher power but not necesarilly GOD/JESUS or whatnot...........I think everyone is agnostic to an extent...everyone questions their "god" at some point..........and personally...."god" is just what they sum up their supreme being/power as.....so doesn't that make everyone agnostic? (or am I not making much logical sense?---->muscle relaxers :))
Having fun with Flexeril?
;)
(but yeah, that made perfect sense)
stoner spirit
09-19-2006, 02:00 AM
I'm Pagan.
Buddha Man
09-26-2006, 01:30 AM
im chrisian because i like the knowing that if i just ask for forgiveness i will go to heaven and hang out with all my lost family members.
Buddha Man
09-26-2006, 01:32 AM
plus i dont go to church or read the bible, i dont feel like i need that material to be connected with God. PEOPLE connect with God, i dont need priests or a book to tell me what i have to do.
sorry for posting twice
Tibetan Buddhist, Dzogchen, Nyingma lineage. I only beleive in what I can experience myself.
MelT
Cyclonite
09-27-2006, 03:23 PM
I believe everyone who is religious is so for one of these reason's.
1.Thats all they know and were hard wired with it as a child, were never given a choice.
2. Weak minded...can't accept the unknown.
3. Traumatic experience...had no one to turn to expect "God"
I think most religions are good though....if it makes you a good person and satisfies your needs go for it. Personally I see it as a waste of time and $$. I have hardcore science and fact based beliefs. When ever I have a discussion like this im almost always attacked and told im going to hell by the religious person and I always say to each their own, live and let live.
More death and terrible things have occurred due to organized religions(and you think the Nazi's were bad)....it has always been that way and always will continue to. If you were given the choice and left to think freely I think more people would believe in Bigfoot and ghosts than any concept of "God".
I don't discredit the possibility of some sort of supreme being('s) though, more like the concept of Q in star trek though.
I agree with you to some extent Cyclonite. The thing that drew me to Buddhism was that it isn't a religion and it doesn't claim to be able to cure the world's ills and nor do we worship anyone. Buddha encapsulated I think the only approach you can have to any religion or belief - prove it to yourself rather than taking someone else's word for it.
Do not believe in anything simply because
you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions simply because
they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything simply because
it is spoken and rumoured by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because
it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority
of your teachers and elders.
But when, after observation and analysis,
you find anything that agrees with reason,
and is conducive to the good and benefit
of one and all,
then accept it and live up to it.
-- The Buddha's Kalama Sutra
This applied to even his own teachings. I can live with a philosophy like that.
MelT
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