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Kevin Spencer
08-29-2006, 03:34 PM
hey dudes and dudettes just wondering how ur progress with ur shits coming.....hows the black shit doing? you guys solve the problem, is it getting worse? better? drop a line guys...
thx
kevin
potluvr
08-31-2006, 01:31 PM
I don't think one of them is doing very well. Still purple and leaves are starting to curl. I don't have high hopes for that one. But the other purple ones are doing well. I think part of it is from the cold at night. We'll see once october comes around. :) Thanks for checking in...
hienuff
08-31-2006, 02:02 PM
I've been nailed by this stuff bad. Last year it was just a small problem infecting just a few plants.This year it is devastating a majority of the crop.It only shows up when flowering begins and it causes the older parts of the bud to dye and shrivel.while the new bud continues to grow and dye on top.I hope someone finds the answer for as I have written off my entire season this year I would like to find a preventative measure for next.I am certain it is not genetic.I have had issues with cutworms inside the stems(this could be the viral carrier that harddon refered to).
hienuff
08-31-2006, 02:07 PM
It's certainly not because my plants were in a weakened state since they have reached an imressive height of 11 feet even though i topped them at 2.Growing strong all the way to flowering and then T%$#@^% purple hell.Seems to leave the plants with a very earthy odor like any leaf of a hardwood tree.
curious101
08-31-2006, 10:33 PM
mine aren't getting better and i've begun to also lose hope...hope this stuff don't spread
hienuff
09-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Sorry curios101. Such a shame when your efforts go unrewarded.Unless someone can come up with a preventative method I may have to give up on my spot since it seems to reoccur yearly.So I ask anyone with a higher understanding than myself......Can this be avoided?If this is viral and carried by insects can anyone give me a proven method for the removal of boring worms from a particular area? I tried seven dust 10% on a continual basis up until the budding stage and the darn things are there anyway.Safers soap doesn't stop them either!Neither seem to reduce the leafhopper population as well.Are there any good over the counter insecticides for these two pests?
hienuff
09-01-2006, 02:19 PM
Curious101,Potluvr,and kevin....What pests are you encountering?What methods of insect prevention are you practicing?Are we all hypothetically in the northeast U.S.?
Kevin Spencer
09-02-2006, 05:57 PM
hey guys, well shit cant remember how to spell ur name dude, so dont take it personally, heir, well from that post of harddon and shit he said it was viral, or a cold actually if i remmeber correctly he said starve a cold feed a fever, i remember him saying to raise the ph to 10, idk how long assuming a couple days to a week, give it a huge dose of superthrive and clear corn syrup. I was unsure as to how much corn syrup to give it so i never did that or raised my ph, if u guys have tell results.....and hypothetically speaking im in the northeast of the states as well......im guessing it must be the area were we have our shit residing.......i dont know.....its a pissoff ill tell ya that, hopefully it gets cold and kills those lil worms, if thats it, oh and how did u find those lil f@'ers? i havent noticed any lil worms but thats probably it..... anyways peace guys , good luck
kevin
hienuff
09-03-2006, 12:19 PM
Hey kevin.The boring worm is easy to spot after it is basically too late since it eats a hole into your stem right above a branching node and then pushes its waste out that hole.So piles of crap at the base of your stems coming off the trunk are easily identified.I think my babies are coming out of it a little.I am starting to see more green in the new growth now though it is not by my own doing since I haven't changed anything.I still expect major losses though if not complete failure.Cold and rain are the only things that have seemed to change unless you count some granulated ferts that I put down when I first noticed the problem.I do know that this disease or whatever it is will come back next year so I am going to lay down some pesticides as a soil topdressing after harvest and use some neem as a soil treatment and foiliar treatment next year.I have no experience with neem oil but I hear it does wonders.To prevent viral/fungal issues already existing I am going to double dose the veg stage next year and see what happens.
hienuff
09-03-2006, 12:23 PM
I still wish to ask the community here.....should you have any knowledge of this disease feel free to state it.I am still seeking a good preventative measure for next season if anyone has any specifics.Thank You
hectec41
09-04-2006, 01:03 AM
g I have a question no one's really answered it..What wrong with my plant it is now . Ever since it came out of soil its been like this, I been watering it can anyone help me.Picture below I have it under light too
hienuff
09-04-2006, 01:40 PM
how long has it been?It's green so that is good but if it has stayed a seedling for more than a week then it is likely that the taproot dried up in which case it will take a while to get a feather root out of what may still be alive.I find that making sure the tap root has four inches to grow down unimpeded gives it a better chance of being female.next time fill that cup and keep it moist.
hienuff
09-04-2006, 01:43 PM
P.S. Use plastic cups since styrofoam gives off some nasty gases when the soil starts to break it down.
Kevin Spencer
09-05-2006, 08:49 PM
hey guys i may have found a possible solution to killing cutworms without incesticide......i read that if u sprinkle cornmeal around the base and stem of the plants they have to walk over it at night when they feed so what happens is they eat it and ingest it and swell up and die.....the only problem is i have no clue waht the hell corn meal is or u can use bran meal, where can i get it?
hienuff
09-06-2006, 01:15 PM
You can buy cornmeal at any grocery store.Unfortunately I must take that idea with a grain of salt since the borers are offspring of a moth that lays its eggs on the plant.A friend of mine uses pesticides(diazinon maybe) to keep them off his corn and he says that it kills the ones inside too but I am afraid that such strong chems would kill the users of the finish product as well.I think that using neem oil on a weekly regiment during the entire veg cycle next year will help.Maybe I will even use it biweekly for the early stages of flowering too.Whatever it is he uses he mixes 3 ounces to spray an acre of corn so I figure 1 tsp will do my entire area after harvest this fall in order to do some preventative.
hienuff
09-06-2006, 01:25 PM
No wonder they call it MOTHER nature.....just like a woman.Lets you dream all summer and then SMASH.....back to reality!
Kevin Spencer
09-06-2006, 04:35 PM
hey dude, so u dont think the cornmeal will work ? im thinking im going to try since i dont want to use pesticides an stuff, ill tell ya results,it probably wont work this year i dont think i can fix it cause they are already in moth/laying egg stage(i did see a lil worm though) so im probably going to have to tackle this next year, but im not worried im just going to change locations, i have 1 in a nice spot which isnt infected so maybe ill try there, but if i get frucked again next year im going to try the cornmeal, plus the fact i got punkd some,. but fruck, better luck next year.
curious101
09-07-2006, 03:19 AM
well, i had three plants and the disease or w/e it is spread to another so i pulled both because they completely destroyed all my flowers...hope my last girl makes it or harvest will never come for this dude
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