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UnitedParcelSecrets
08-27-2006, 09:29 PM
Well, I'm still having issues with that odd wilting thing ... though it seems to be healthy anyway. I cut down my watering quite a bit, and stabilized my lighting schedule. It seems to be working, there's new growth and everything. I think it's a pretty little one. I do hope for a little girl, but even a boy I'd be happy with. Just because I've finally succeeded in getting past a seedling.

phytokind
08-27-2006, 10:04 PM
Is that pure perlite?

Th3 sand m4n
08-27-2006, 10:10 PM
what type of growing medium is that? by the look of the leaves it doesnt look like your nutrients are quite right. for your first grow it would be easiest to do a soil grow. You said you cut down on watering and fixed your lighting schedual thats a step in the right direction consistant lighting is almost a must different hormones are produced by the amount of light the plant is receiving. also from the amount of drooping i see lay off the watering for a couple of days and then start slowly giving it water. good luck with that man ill check back regulary to help you out so post any problems you have :thumbsup:

Th3 sand m4n
08-27-2006, 10:13 PM
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if that is pure perlite that would explain why you have nutrient deff. a plant can usually sustain itself for a week or so with the nutrients it has stored in its seed but after that its going to need food and pure perlite dose not have what you need so you either need some soil in their or to supply all of the nutes it needs.

phytokind
08-27-2006, 10:18 PM
And I think that you aren't supposed to use more than 50 percent perlite. Try coco coir or peat with the perlite, and some nice worm castings, like about equal parts of each.

UnitedParcelSecrets
08-27-2006, 10:32 PM
The medium is actually dirt, mixed with pearlite, with a layer of pearlite on the top to reflect light and make it so that watering doesn't disturb the soil. The wilting, I believe, is from past overwatering. I was watering it every day like a fool for a while. I'll definitely take your suggestions into consideration, though! And thanks a lot Sandman, I think you'll be a lot of help.

Th3 sand m4n
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
I was watering it every day like a fool for a while. that will do it, try and water every other day. even though its temping to water it every day weed just cant deal with that much water. Think about in nature it doestn rain every day so over watering just leads to root rot post some more pictures in a couple of days if you can. :smokin:
o and also a good way to check if the plant needs water is to put your finger an inch or so in the soil and see if its wet if its dry give it water if not wait another day.

UnitedParcelSecrets
08-27-2006, 10:50 PM
Actually I just did that today! I watered yesterday, and I just checked today and it's still damp ... so no water today. :)

Th3 sand m4n
08-27-2006, 11:18 PM
By the way what strain of weed is that?

UnitedParcelSecrets
08-27-2006, 11:22 PM
I have absolutely no idea. It came from a bag of mostly shake that I bought a while back. I'm surprised it even sprouted. I almost smoked the poor thing! This is my first real grow, so I didn't want to invest in seeds in the case that I fucked up. Next year, I'll be ordering seeds of strains I want. :)

UnitedParcelSecrets
08-29-2006, 02:15 AM
:) Well the wilting seems to be slowly fading off. The color seems a little off, but I think it's just the way the light hits it. I haven't watered today or yesterday, and I don't intend to until the plant needs it. Here's a picture from the front and one from the back for today:

smoky mcpot 05
08-29-2006, 02:01 PM
also you have to much intense light for that little thing, also there way to close.

boybuffalo
08-29-2006, 02:10 PM
Your wilting is do to the lights being to close to the plant. They do sell indoor plant lights at Home depot 120watt that put off less heat and can be 5 to 12 inches away from the plant. I get great success with 6 of those lights on a 3 ft bar that I can move up and down as the plants grow. It also allows me to go 23 hours of light on for the first 4 to 5 weeks and then 4 to 6 week of 12on 12 off.


Well, I'm still having issues with that odd wilting thing ... though it seems to be healthy anyway. I cut down my watering quite a bit, and stabilized my lighting schedule. It seems to be working, there's new growth and everything. I think it's a pretty little one. I do hope for a little girl, but even a boy I'd be happy with. Just because I've finally succeeded in getting past a seedling.

Th3 sand m4n
08-30-2006, 01:47 AM
Your wilting is do to the lights being to close to the plant. They do sell indoor plant lights at Home depot 120watt that put off less heat and can be 5 to 12 inches away from the plant. I get great success with 6 of those lights on a 3 ft bar that I can move up and down as the plants grow. It also allows me to go 23 hours of light on for the first 4 to 5 weeks and then 4 to 6 week of 12on 12 off.

It could be due to the lights being to close but i doubt it i have had more cfls then that and had no wilting, also those lights produce very little heat. and even if it was getting to hot they would burn or curl up not wilt and look all droopy. droop= over watering problem its a common mistake.

UnitedParcelSecrets
08-30-2006, 01:51 AM
No offence boybuffalo, but I'm more inclined to believe sandman.

invision
09-01-2006, 02:57 PM
best thing UPS is pick up your pots when very dry and feel the weight of them and water them and do it again and you will know when its water time my pot get very light when dry and very heavy when watered so far this has worked for me give it a shot for a week or so

chisme
09-01-2006, 06:26 PM
at this early point id say your better off just having the one bulb hanging directly above it a little bit closer....then in say a week start adding more bulbs right now theye would be bit too far away for me to like because u have like 3 you cant get them as close...so yeah id go with just one bulb for now.

Th3 sand m4n
09-03-2006, 01:38 AM
any updates yet?

soccergal
09-03-2006, 04:37 PM
His lights aren't too close...CFLs can really be close to the plants, like 1.5 to 2 inches away. You have to remember the heat output on those bulbs is minimal. You can touch the thing after it's been on for 24 hours and it's still not really hot.

checkmark9
09-03-2006, 05:40 PM
not talking about heat but can a plant get to much light?

qdavid
09-04-2006, 02:00 PM
I think your good to go. My opinion is with your watering thing. Every day is just too much. Overall, I think she looks good. Good lukck!

UnitedParcelSecrets
09-08-2006, 08:26 PM
As you can see, the newer growth is doing far better than the old. I've started LSTing, and she seems to be taking well to it!

phytokind
09-08-2006, 08:40 PM
So how old is the plant now and when are you going to start 12/12? And those ropes are for LSTing?

UnitedParcelSecrets
09-08-2006, 08:47 PM
Twine, and yes for LSTing. She's somewhere around three weeks I guess. Two or three. I'll start 12/12 ... when she seems ready.

Th3 sand m4n
09-08-2006, 09:54 PM
For three weeks its a little small but i belive this is due to a lot of stress. Have you transplanted her? or had an inconsistent lighting schedule? but besides that it is looking way better! good job man :thumbsup: one thing cool about your plant is it has virtualy no stretching inbetween nodes which usually only happens with high powered hps lights. once again good job and hopefully you will see a good amount of bud out of her !

UnitedParcelSecrets
09-08-2006, 11:29 PM
Inconsistant light schedule is the reason for that stress... my day job and not being able to find a good timer is at the cause of that!

soccergal
09-09-2006, 02:27 AM
Yeah I hear you on that. I've got my lights on 24 hrs. a day right now but really it's just because all my power strips have the three pronged plugs...and I haven't found a timer that has a three pronged outlet.

doco
09-09-2006, 04:28 AM
I just bought a three-prong timer today at Dixieline for $10. It's Intermatic Heavy Duty for air conditioners and appliances...should be able to handle the 400w HPS lights and fans fine but I havent tried it yet.

UnitedParcelSecrets
09-11-2006, 05:42 AM
I finaly got a timer! Good shit.

Th3 sand m4n
09-14-2006, 02:11 AM
why are you lsting?

Th3 sand m4n
09-16-2006, 04:51 PM
any updates?

UnitedParcelSecrets
09-30-2006, 09:53 PM
I'm LSTing because there isn't much room, and it's much better for the plant than topping it. Which I haven't done, by the way. I haven't cut it at all.

Here's a new picture I took last night. The thing is a bushy little beast ... short and squatty, and the main stem is horribly thick.

By the way, changes since the last time I posted - I have a consistant light schedule, I water less often, and I've transplanted into a bigger pot, with a soiless grow mix I got from a friend of mine who runs a ... place.

TheGreenFog
09-30-2006, 10:23 PM
Well, UPS...looks like you're strugglin' a little there. Good luck with the LSTing. Plant still looks a little wilty. But less than before. Hope that soilless mixture works good for you. Keep up posted. How many plants do you have? Just the one?

Be cool. Toke :rasta:

TGF

UnitedParcelSecrets
09-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Just the one for now ... really it's just for practice in the act of growing. I'm okay with no harvest if it turns up male. Oh, and it's really not wilting ... the leaves are down a bit during that picture because I had just watered it, and it does that after I water. Perks right back up a few hours later. Also, you can't really see it, but the whole plant is growing in a zigzag.

UnitedParcelSecrets
10-21-2006, 04:36 PM
Well, it's very much male. Though it looks like, had it been female, I would have actually had a hefty harvest! Haha

doco
10-21-2006, 05:10 PM
Bummer UPS, sorry for your bad luck. Question: when you say you cut back on watering - what was your watering schedule and what did you cut it back to? I'm still trying to sort out my watering for my week old seedlings.

UnitedParcelSecrets
10-24-2006, 03:44 AM
I was watering every two days, and I switched to only watering when they were relatively dry. It ended up being four days for mine.