View Full Version : How do you think America will end?
NextLineIsMine
08-26-2006, 06:14 AM
When and ,most of all how do you think the empire of America will fall? Like a massive depression or something...
paperlunatic
08-26-2006, 06:33 AM
hey, uh, buddy. i kinda live in a america so, uh, uh, uh, uh who?
nvm
giant ants
Oneironaut
08-26-2006, 06:35 AM
Revolution, dude. Revolution. :cool:
mrdevious
08-26-2006, 06:43 AM
Perhapse the trillions of dollars of debt combined with the increasing amount of outsourcing north american industry. Add more wars than a nation can handle, and the empire may crumble, especially if somebody powerfull (china perhapse) sees a weakened nation and decides to invade. But realistically I think America will just eventually lose their status as a superpower. After all, the Egyptian empire crumbled a long long time ago, but Egypt didn't just disapear off the map.
Ammie
08-26-2006, 06:44 AM
hmmmmmmmm never thought about it....
great now im goin to be up for days tryin to determine my demise:confused:
oh well im goin down in a blaze of glory :D
paperlunatic
08-26-2006, 06:46 AM
hmmmmmmmm never thought about it....
great now im goin to be up for days tryin to determine my demise:confused:
oh well im goin down in a blaze of glory :D
lol yea me too!:stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:
:) holy crap they took my kidneys
jamstigator
08-26-2006, 09:36 AM
Nanobots!
Lethal G
08-26-2006, 09:52 AM
I think you're all wrong. The fall of America will be caused by none other than...
A giant half-chicken, half-squirrel.
benagain
08-26-2006, 12:38 PM
Klingon invasion
anycraic
08-26-2006, 12:54 PM
well the main factors will be less and less control of the worlds oil, the breakdown of the vital petro-dollar cycle due to the rise of the euro, more and more countries will trade their oil in euros instead of dollar due to the ever increasing eu market economy (already larger than the u.s's). huge expenditure on wars (there will be plenty more to come, the next few are pretty obvious) in an attempt to control natural resources (all the west vs islam bullshit is just a cover of the real issues of course). Alliances will become harder and harder to make as world public opinion is already hugely anti-american (please bear in mind its the government that everyone hates, not the people). the empire will crumble, but as someone already said, like all before (rome, china, spain, france, britain etc.), the original country will survive, and still be quite wealthy. note to all americans: dont be disheartened, most european countries had vast empires once, but these days we are doing fine as equals, and have worked with each other instead of against each other to make life better for all our citizens. so its gonna be fine. China, however, scares the fuck out of me though...
Mark Bryan
08-26-2006, 02:31 PM
We will fall due to the enemy within and without,but after a brief period of captivity,once Armageddon is fought when Christ returns and the believers recieve their NEW bodies like his,then we will TAKE BACK America/Manasseh and the newly revived Hemp For Victory will help us REBUILD on the ashes of the ruined cities and we will live 1,000 years in peace before Satan is loosed and makes his LAST STAND! Then ETERNITY will begin after the world is purified by fire and is TRANSFIGURED into an eternal paradise!:rasta: :pimp: :D PEACE!
Ozarks
08-26-2006, 02:39 PM
America will never end, especially with open borders. In fact we will need to expand and start taking over countries just so we have some place to put them all.
Lets start with Mexico.:D
Skeebo
08-26-2006, 02:43 PM
Hmm...I don't think that the US will be the only one to fall, but likely the first.
THE USA:
Has the largest national debt in the world. $8.5 trillion and increases by $1.75 billion a day.
Causes the most pollution in the world per capita.
Is the largest consumer of natural resources (30% of the worlds resources, yet has only 5% of the world's population).
Has the highest MPG consumption per production vehicle of any nation in the world.
I could go on and on, but I'm bored.
Economic or environmental collapse. Within 50 years or so.
Hamlet
08-26-2006, 02:53 PM
Sorgon the Devourer with attack with his army Turusian Foknoggins! They've already infiltrated us through their socio-economic base known as Walmart! Yeah man, they're selling foknoggins to our children deguised as action figures but once everything is in place and Sorgon gives the sign, its all over!
Tom Swierzbinski
08-26-2006, 03:38 PM
I believe economic collapse within 25 years, or, more likely, it will be 'broken down' by wars. All these damn countries that theyre looking to go to war with - Iran, Lebanon, N. Korea... also Syria, Russia, China, Vietnam, Japan will all join in to defend the Middle Eastern countries.
Basically, within 10 years the West will be at war with the East. If that happens, I dont want us to win (the world would become an Orwellian police state), and I dont want them to win either, or we will all be sent to concentration camps/gulags and then killed. Thats if we survive the war.
I say, every-fucking-thing on this planet gets nuked. All that survives is a few tribes that live in isolation in the rainforests. That is the ONLY way that the world will ever experience peace.
WeedFaerie420
08-26-2006, 03:39 PM
Yea, way to start a "Let's Bash America" thread. :mad:
Although I absolutely hate the current USA regime (Bush), that is not to say that our entire government and what it was built on, stands for is hated. Why hate democracy? All of you seem to be having a pretty fun time describing your fantasy for America's destruction. Would you rather live in North Korea? At least we have a system in place that gives us a chance to change, to vote in a next president that could possible make drastic changes with foreign policies and environmental issues. Was the USA on such a horrible path when we had president Clinton? I personally don't think so. Stop judging the USA's ENTIRE future based on our current jackass president. You people talk about the USA like we are no better than Nazi Germany during WWII. The USA has done good in this world 2, but all you jealous haters seem to forget or disregard that.
anycraic
08-26-2006, 05:01 PM
aaaargh weedfaerie, its not a bash america thread, its a how will it end thread. and shut up about democracy, cause you dont have much compared to a lot of countries. if u actually study politics u would know how undemocratic ur entire governmental system is. obviously the poor countries are far less democratic, but compared to the rest of the western world, u dont have much at all. this is a fact no matter how much you dispute it.
in regards to a lot of american posters on these boards, why do they always call everyone 'jealous haters'?. im not trying to be funny, but jealous of what exactly?
u dont see anyone else from any other country on these boards calling people "jealous" of this and that, so wtf
The Colonel
08-26-2006, 05:39 PM
MAN BEAR PIG
daima
08-26-2006, 05:40 PM
Revolution, dude. Revolution. :cool:
i agree. civil war. us agaisnt those who create and try to implement draconian laws upon us. let us be free, or let us fucking rumble.
dai*ma:stoned:
a little out of time
a little out of place
a little lost in space
racing the moon
i'm climbing the walls
of this hurricane
but all in all
i cant complain
graymatter
08-27-2006, 01:38 PM
Yeah man, they're selling foknoggins to our children deguised as action figures
but you better hurry, supplies are limited...
NextLineIsMine
08-28-2006, 07:06 PM
All super powers find their demise at some point. What do you think Americas downfall will be in the future?
dryst
08-28-2006, 07:06 PM
when the middle finally stops all the internal fight, unites and then armageddon starts....
Storm Crow
08-28-2006, 07:25 PM
Let me give you kind of a time table as to when the revolution will start. WAY back when I was in high school, (I'm 59) I had a Government teacher, Mr. Fierro. He also collected coins. He noted an interesting thing. After debasing (cutting with cheap metal) their smallest coin, he could find NO government that lasted 50 years- most fell within 25 years. The US debased the penny in 1982.
Big Calhoun
08-28-2006, 08:14 PM
America will probably erupt into a civil war. I think eventually we will have a president that will dramatically lessen our international role. At the same time, by time this person comes to office, alot of our domestic issues will have been ignored for so long, that society will start to rebel. I think it'll start out as a war of the classes and eventually become a war of races.
dryst
08-28-2006, 08:15 PM
whites vs blacks?
or perhaops white and blacks vs everythign eles?
Nochowderforyou
08-28-2006, 08:24 PM
All super powers find their demise at some point. What do you think Americas downfall will be in the future?
I think their downfall is staying in Iraq. When will they understand that they cannot change an entire country. They're going to do the same thing they did in 'Nam. They'll blow it to pieces, try and get their way, and walk off with the tail between their legs because they couldn't win, while all the homes and lives they destroyed, have no choice but to start again, while he's at home in a nice, warm bed.
Bush is a bully and he's pushing peoples buttons. It's only a matter of time before it all breaks. It will either be America blowing the entire world to hell, or America being blown to hell. When and how though, only time will tell.
hipEstoner
08-28-2006, 08:25 PM
whites vs blacks?
or perhaops white and blacks vs everythign eles?
i don think it would be whites vers blacks, cuz theres most people r cool with everybody, i think it would be 1 type of society vs the people that dont like the government, so i think it could be the government vs the people?, i dont know
hipEstoner
08-28-2006, 08:30 PM
I think their downfall is staying in Iraq. When will they understand that they cannot change an entire country. They're going to do the same thing they did in 'Nam. They'll blow it to pieces, try and get their way, and walk off with the tail between their legs because they couldn't win, while all the homes and lives they destroyed, have no choice but to start again, while he's at home in a nice, warm bed.
Bush is a bully and he's pushing peoples buttons. It's only a matter of time before it all breaks. It will either be America blowing the entire world to hell, or America being blown to hell. When and how though, only time will tell.
haHA, I Live in america, but i dont feel safe in the us, cuz i think soon enuf theres gonna b a war in the us and by the time that will happen ill b somewhere in on an island whwre i will live with no shoes, own a boat and sell fishj that i catch in the local island stores, also with a stedy supply of bud, but to do that i will have to have like 10,000$ , so i will earn that money in a job, then move to a 3rd world country i think? where the price of living doesnt cost much and i will chill live a nice life and smoke erb all day, while the countrys are at war
I think the whole world (not just America) is eventually going to use up all the natural resources on Earth and that will be it! Or a nuclear war.......ugghhh Depressing Thread!!
hipEstoner
08-28-2006, 08:45 PM
haHA, I Live in america, but i dont feel safe in the us, cuz i think soon enuf theres gonna b a war in the us and by the time that will happen ill b somewhere in on an island whwre i will live with no shoes, own a boat and sell fishj that i catch in the local island stores, also with a stedy supply of bud, but to do that i will have to have like 10,000$ , so i will earn that money in a job, then move to a 3rd world country i think? where the price of living doesnt cost much and i will chill live a nice life and smoke erb all day, while the countrys are at war
DoctorCubensis
08-28-2006, 09:43 PM
One things that seperates our EVIL EMPIRE from previous empires is globalism. With technology and the ability to control the people, whether they live in your jurisdiction or not, I doubt America will ever fall. Even some of our greatest enemies, like China, are so tied to us economically that they won't dare touch us.
The only way I see America falling is if these rogue nations like N. Korea lay some serious smack down on us. I wouldn't mind seeing America fall at all, since we're a nation of ignorant, bigoted, greedy imperialist fat tards who're more interested in Tom Cruise's sex life than the famine all over the world, but if it's done by mid east terrorists or rogue states killing civilians, that's pretty fucking gay too.
Tribalism vs. McWorld, no matter who wins, we lose.
Psycho4Bud
08-28-2006, 10:15 PM
How will America end? Do some reading on Yellowstone Park/ Super Volcano.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
DoctorCubensis
08-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Looks like I got censored! Thanks cannabis.com, I'll try to do better this time, okay, you nazis?
America won't ever fall. Technology ensures this, as well as our economic ties to even our most powerful enemies, such as china.
Globalism is the difference between our empire and previous empires. Instead of falling, I'm thinking we'll all sort of morph together eventually and the nations who refuse to, will be attacked.
graymatter
08-28-2006, 11:53 PM
How will America end? Do some reading on Yellowstone Park/ Super Volcano.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
That's some pretty imposing stuff. But I look for Disney to capitalize on that potential energy and develop the next great theme park out of it.
Myth1184
08-29-2006, 12:08 AM
When and ,most of all how do you think the empire of America will fall? Like a massive depression or something...
Empire of America...you watch too much Ghost in the Shell my friend...
daima
08-29-2006, 12:56 AM
How will America end? Do some reading on Yellowstone Park/ Super Volcano.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
I agree. These volcano's start going off, and thats about it.
dai*ma:stoned: sfca
Th3 sand m4n
08-29-2006, 01:20 AM
i think the us will fall if hillary clinton becomes the next president :)
Hamlet
08-29-2006, 02:29 AM
"i think the us will fall if hillary clinton becomes the next president"
At this point I'll take Whoopi Goldberg, J.Lo, Jimmy Carter...I don't care!
DoctorCubensis
08-29-2006, 03:41 AM
Empire of America...you watch too much Ghost in the Shell my friend...
Oh it's you again. We manufacture reasons to attack countries and take them over. We pillage towns and steal resources. We're spreading our corporations throughout the globe, taking advantage of slave labor. We export our crappy McCulture to the darkest depths of the globe. We place trade embargos on those that do not co-operate.
How are we not an empire?
On a lighter note, looks like I didn't get censored. GEEZ DOCTORCUBE CAN'T YOU LEARN TO READ THE WHOLE THREAD? LAWL.
Psycho4Bud
08-29-2006, 04:28 AM
Looks like I got censored! Thanks cannabis.com, I'll try to do better this time, okay, you nazis?
How did you get censored.........I just looked though and you have NO past posts/threads deleted. You can drop the nazi bullshit now!
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
sanguinekane
08-29-2006, 04:51 AM
Increasing economic turmoil as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears. Then, as oil supplies get really low and prices on everything (and I mean everything, oil isn't just for making gas for your car) go up, and the already poor majority of the American populace will hopefully realise their predicament, and rise up against the government, overthrow it, and replace it with one that either goes back to actually following the constitution, or one that is a total overhaul.
Either that, or we end up destroying ourselves and everybody else in a nuclear war with China and/or N. Korea.
Hamlet
08-29-2006, 10:23 AM
"Increasing economic turmoil as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears."
Eureka! You nailed it right there. America has always been strong because of a strong middle class. First time in history and now that's going by-by.
**The SuperVolcano kinda freaked me out too but then again, if we're going in that direction, a nearby star could Supernova. Oh shit! I forgot about that! Dammit! you guys are creeping me out! I'm going to go feed me goldfish.
Mark Bryan
08-29-2006, 03:42 PM
America will never end, especially with open borders. In fact we will need to expand and start taking over countries just so we have some place to put them all.
Lets start with Mexico.:D YYYYYYOOOOOOOWWW! :D I had to give the 'ol REBEL YELL to that one dude!:thumbsup: We drove'em back 't Mexico City AND THEN SOME! We did it in 1846 or so,we can do it AGAIN! I LIKE YER ATTITUDE DUDE! I'll burn to that! :rasta: :D
Mark Bryan
08-29-2006, 04:12 PM
Increasing economic turmoil as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears. Then, as oil supplies get really low and prices on everything (and I mean everything, oil isn't just for making gas for your car) go up, and the already poor majority of the American populace will hopefully realise their predicament, and rise up against the government, overthrow it, and replace it with one that either goes back to actually following the constitution, or one that is a total overhaul.
Either that, or we end up destroying ourselves and everybody else in a nuclear war with China and/or N. Korea.
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WeedFaerie420
08-29-2006, 04:21 PM
aaaargh weedfaerie, its not a bash america thread, its a how will it end thread. and shut up about democracy, cause you dont have much compared to a lot of countries. if u actually study politics u would know how undemocratic ur entire governmental system is. obviously the poor countries are far less democratic, but compared to the rest of the western world, u dont have much at all. this is a fact no matter how much you dispute it.
in regards to a lot of american posters on these boards, why do they always call everyone 'jealous haters'?. im not trying to be funny, but jealous of what exactly?
u dont see anyone else from any other country on these boards calling people "jealous" of this and that, so wtf
Shut up about democracy? Where are you from by the way? (i'd love to have the opportunity to drudge up some nasty and bloody history about your country) And I know how my government works, and I know it's at least better than a dictatorship or monarchy. And we (americans) don't have much at all? Really? I think our whole fucking country would beg to differ. This shows you ARE A JEALOUS HATER, to answer your question. I can't speak for everyone else who calls people jealous, I'm not the spokesperson. The reason people from other (non USA) countrys probably don't call non citizens jealous haters is becaue they aren't the world power and aren't being bashed all the fucking time. Is there a thread about the destruction of England or of North Korea? I don't think so. I'm allowed to have pride in my country, just as I'm sure you have in yours... although I did specifically indicate that I am NOT a BUSH supporter and am crushed by our foreign issues, war in iraq, our environmental issues, etc. You want more from me? Private message me then we'll work something out, mmk?
eg420ne
08-29-2006, 06:22 PM
America is already lost......Welcome to the North American Union.......look it up
Ozarks
08-29-2006, 07:21 PM
Actually that was a joke, Apparently you don't have much of a sense of humor ...
YYYYYYOOOOOOOWWW! :D I had to give the 'ol REBEL YELL to that one dude!:thumbsup: We drove'em back 't Mexico City AND THEN SOME! We did it in 1846 or so,we can do it AGAIN! I LIKE YER ATTITUDE DUDE! I'll burn to that! :rasta: :D
... except for your own, there's a word for people like that. :D
jamstigator
08-29-2006, 08:50 PM
A nation of sheep will be wearing wool in the winter while the government wolves shiver!
DoctorCubensis
08-29-2006, 09:51 PM
Let me give you kind of a time table as to when the revolution will start. WAY back when I was in high school, (I'm 59) I had a Government teacher, Mr. Fierro. He also collected coins. He noted an interesting thing. After debasing (cutting with cheap metal) their smallest coin, he could find NO government that lasted 50 years- most fell within 25 years. The US debased the penny in 1982.
Revolution. LAWLLRSKATES! The law will break it up as soon as one begins to organize. We're all under surveillance now. Revolutionaries will be considered terrorists and treated as such. Not gonna happen.
And hamlet, I know I didn't get censored, and I stated that after the post saying that I did. Maybe if you kept reading you woulda saw, but hey, it's okay man. You have a great day too bud :thumbsup:
Hamlet
08-29-2006, 11:08 PM
"And hamlet, I know I didn't get censored, and I stated that after the post saying that I did. Maybe if you kept reading you woulda saw, but hey, it's okay man. You have a great day too bud "
I think you mean Psycho4Bud.
sanguinekane
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Revolution. LAWLLRSKATES! The law will break it up as soon as one begins to organize. We're all under surveillance now. Revolutionaries will be considered terrorists and treated as such. Not gonna happen.
Intially, yes that will be what happens, but thats what happens in almost every revolution. But where there is a will, there is a way. The original American revolutionaries were backwoods farmers and everyday citizens who had more courage than weapons, and they eventually defeated the greatest empire of the time (though they obviously had a little help). Revolutions are never easy, but if the people want one bad enough, they always come around.
Hamlet
08-30-2006, 01:38 AM
Actually, we don't need a 'revolution' in the classical sense of the word. Our system is set up so that power can change hands without one. Great way to do business, huh?
All we have to do is think alike and get off our lazy asses and VOTE! But that's a fuckin' bitch, isn't it? Must be cuz only baptists and grandparents seem to do it.
So here's what we do. Instead of taking off for some dead presidents birthday, or the Easter Bunny, whatever....make Election Days national holidays...<if you vote! Everybody and his brother will be at the polls , guaranteed. Laws and politicians would change...guaranteed. Of course we might end up with Britney Spears as President, but that remains to be seen, and at this point I'll take her!...lol
sanguinekane
08-30-2006, 02:41 AM
True, we don't need a revolution...yet. But I made a prediction for one in the future, based upon the theory that the slow erosion of our rights happening now continues on into the future. If Bush gets replaced with someone competent in 2009, and this country starts to turn around, then yeah, no revolution needed, and I hope this is what actually happens.
If not however, who knows how long until only certain people are allowed to vote, if anyone at all?
Breukelen advocaat
08-30-2006, 03:18 AM
Actually, we don't need a 'revolution' in the classical sense of the word. Our system is set up so that power can change hands without one. Great way to do business, huh?
All we have to do is think alike and get off our lazy asses and VOTE! But that's a fuckin' bitch, isn't it? Must be cuz only baptists and grandparents seem to do it.
So here's what we do. Instead of taking off for some dead presidents birthday, or the Easter Bunny, whatever....make Election Days national holidays...<if you vote! Everybody and his brother will be at the polls , guaranteed. Laws and politicians would change...guaranteed. Of course we might end up with Britney Spears as President, but that remains to be seen, and at this point I'll take her!...lol
Election day(s) should be a national holiday. They do it in other countries, and more people vote. It isn't really "lazyness": We have longer working hours and less time off than these countries. Many Americans are just too overworked to make it to the polls after a hard day at the job. It's very difficult, if not outright impossible, for many people to do it.
Election day is very important, but the average working person is denied a fair chance to participate.
They force you to do jury duty, but you're not able to vote. Nice.
Hamlet
08-30-2006, 03:29 AM
"They force you to do jury duty, but you're not able to vote. Nice."
I've noticed that myself...:) Something tells me career politicians don't want us all to vote. It would mess up their gerimandering. But fuck'm, let's do it anyway...whaddaya say?! whataday say?!
Green Love
08-30-2006, 03:30 AM
We aint going nowhere. lol. America's # 1
sanguinekane
08-30-2006, 04:52 AM
Egypt was #1, Rome was #1, China was #1, Britain was #1, France was #1, Russia was tied for #1, and on and on.
I doubt America will ever just disappear from the map, but to think we will remain on top forever is literally a pipe dream.
Mark Bryan
08-30-2006, 03:24 PM
Actually that was a joke, Apparently you don't have much of a sense of humor ...
... except for your own, there's a word for people like that. :D
Actually,I KNEW it was a joke! I was agreein' with it as funny as it was! As for not havin' a sense 'o humor, Why are SOME women called VACUUM CLEANERS? Because they SUCK,they BLOW,and like to get LAID in the CLOSET!:D :dance: Wanna crack some jokes?
SmokingPlatypus
08-30-2006, 03:30 PM
If voting actually changed anything, it would have been made illegal decades ago.
Oneironaut
08-30-2006, 04:19 PM
If voting actually changed anything, it would have been made illegal decades ago.
It was anarchist Emma Goldman (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman) who came up with that quote.
“If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.”
And she was absolutely right. Voting new leaders into the system and expecting them to correct the evils inherent in the system is absolutely absurd. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that politicians do what is in their best interest, generally not giving a crap about what people think after the election bit is all over. And what is in their best interest is staying in power, staying rich and in general keeping the status quo. They will only make enough concessions to keep the masses from ousting them out of power. Therefore, if we want to really get anything done, we need to threaten politicians with loss of their power and, in my opinion, we should follow through on that threat.
orangeman
08-30-2006, 04:54 PM
Well since I'm moving to Canada I can safely say that America will end with a bloody nuclear missle from al Qaeda that will hit the south side of America and spread it's chemical debris to the north side until it wipes out everyone :D
(time to flame me :p).
Ozarks
08-30-2006, 05:44 PM
Actually,I KNEW it was a joke! I was agreein' with it as funny as it was! As for not havin' a sense 'o humor, Why are SOME women called VACUUM CLEANERS? Because they SUCK,they BLOW,and like to get LAID in the CLOSET!:D :dance: Wanna crack some jokes?
If I missed the humor in your last post, that is my fault. Sometimes it's hard read people correctly on the Internet. :)
I will never hear church bells ringing again without smiling. Upon hearing that her elderly grandfather had just passed away, Katie went straight to her grandparent's house to visit her 95 year old grandmother and comfort her.
When she asked how her grandfather had died, her grandmother replied, "He had a heart attack while we were making love on Sunday morning."
Horrified, Katie told her grandmother that two people nearly 100 years old having sex would surely be asking for trouble.
"Oh no, my dear," replied granny. "Many years ago, realizing our advanced age, we figured out that the best time to do it was when the church bells would start to ring. It was just the right rhythm. Nice and slow and even.
Nothing too strenuous, simply in on the Ding and out on the Dong."
She paused to wipe away a tear, and continued, "He'd still be alive if the ice cream truck hadn't come along !!!
SmokingPlatypus
08-30-2006, 09:24 PM
It was anarchist Emma Goldman (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman) who came up with that quote.
That's right, I couldn't remember who had said it. It was a brilliant quote.
Hamlet
08-30-2006, 11:20 PM
Therefore, if we want to really get anything done, we need to threaten politicians with loss of their power and, in my opinion, we should follow through on that threat.
Sounds good....got a better way of doing that besides voting them out of office?
Hamlet
08-31-2006, 04:18 AM
"People with power tend to listen more to people's plights when those people are forcing them to deep throat the barrel of an M-16..."
Noted...that's why people in power are the ones in control of the M-16s. We've played that game since the dawn of civilization. Fortunately, two hundred years ago some wise old hippies decided those weren't very cool rules.
So they broke all the power up, put the people in charge of the M-16s on a leash, and gave some of that power back to you. Bitch all ya want about the government but you gotta admit...... that rocks.
The catch is there's always going to be some sleezeball schemeing to take that power away from you. If he catches enough of us nappin', or with our heads stuck up our asses, or in our X-boxes, he might just pull it off.
What we got ain't perfect. But it works if you work it. It's up to you and me to go make it perfect. As for me, I'm all about gettin' off my ass and giving it a go.
thcbongman
08-31-2006, 12:26 PM
When and ,most of all how do you think the empire of America will fall? Like a massive depression or something...
I don't think America's reign on power will end like in a depression. Simply other countries will become more economic powerhouses in America.
In a way, it would be a good thing. Rather than spending 25% of the budget on the military, it can go to more useful agendas, such as education, improving infrastructure, and making America a more "happy country."
Why does America have to be #1? Couldn't we settle for #1 in the HDI index?
jakez
08-31-2007, 03:40 PM
We aint going nowhere. lol. America's # 1
Why do there have to be so many morons like this guy that it overwhelmes the knowledgable people... :(
Boricua
08-31-2007, 03:47 PM
I believe that if will fall down. Their will be a time in the future were people get tired of all the lies and mafia government. A revolution will begin but not in the near future.
Gandalf_The_Grey
08-31-2007, 07:30 PM
If what the government tells us is true, and it most certaintly is, America will crumble when marijuana is legalized. Hospitals will overflow! Everybody will become addicted to drugs! Violence and crime will run rampant! 90% of the population will get cancer! 80% will be schizophrenic! Terrorists will overrun us!
Marijuana, still think it's harmless?
Mr. Bubbles
08-31-2007, 07:42 PM
America's demise will be nobodies fault it's own.
Bogart
08-31-2007, 08:19 PM
At the rate we're going now very very badly. The justice system has gone to hell and the innocent are being punished not the criminals.
medicinal
08-31-2007, 08:24 PM
We will fall due to the enemy within and without,but after a brief period of captivity,once Armageddon is fought when Christ returns and the believers recieve their NEW bodies like his,then we will TAKE BACK America/Manasseh and the newly revived Hemp For Victory will help us REBUILD on the ashes of the ruined cities and we will live 1,000 years in peace before Satan is loosed and makes his LAST STAND! Then ETERNITY will begin after the world is purified by fire and is TRANSFIGURED into an eternal paradise!:rasta: :pimp: :D PEACE!
And then you woke up!
MrNiceGuy420
09-02-2007, 03:18 PM
complete economic disaster caused by the north american union
Gandalf_The_Grey
09-02-2007, 04:20 PM
complete economic disaster caused by the north american union
You mean like the European union caused total economic disaster for Europe?
natureisawesome
09-02-2007, 04:49 PM
I think that America will fall like Rome. The truth is, that just like other fallen empires, America has already fallen long before it actually erupts into a revolution or reformation of government. The power will go to the east. I guess America will retain power over smaller amounts of oil. This nation will no longer be able to survive as a post-industrial nation, it will quickly fall back into a agricultural nation, and when people see how much better it is, it will probably stay that way for a long time.
Needless to say, this country will become a slave to the rest of the world, and the U.n. will dramatically change or evaporate into smaller national co-forces. Many countries will in a short time develop nuclear arms, and the world will continue to hold each other at gunpoint. China will lead the race with Indonesia producing biofuel and Japan and India following behind. I suspect that China may also absorb other countries in it's close proximity.
South America may also erupt as an unsuspected superpower in the near future, and canada and Usa may become one nation.
Communism will have an effect on everyone, but not as it used to be. The American standard of living will dramatically change, and culture will follow suit. There will be no worldwide government.
I think it's also very likely that part of the final catastophe will result from a multi nuclear attack from within or some other weapon of mass destruction.
Basically things will just get worse and worse, and everyone will be full of hate and darkness.
snowblind
09-02-2007, 04:53 PM
MAN BEAR PIG. classic. most empires crumble due to civil unrest and over expantion, the british empire, rome to name but a few. i dont see america being any different. not to mention that most of you are armed with personal arms a civil war is likely. you guys should take the power back and enforce your constitution as it was meant to be, not manipulated by monkies in suits.
_tyrant
09-02-2007, 05:01 PM
America isn't going anywhere...
the world is still young in my opinion specially america
How will the USA end, or America as a whole? Well, the USA will end when/if the North American Union is created. This isn't too far away. This will also get rid of our constitution, and it is strongly believed that it will become a police state/authoritarian government. Not good. The end of the USA is near! The end of the NAU will be a revolution, eventually. But I guess it could be argued that the USA is already dead, and has been since 1913. It's not the USA that everyone loved before 1913, that's for sure. It's already slowly becoming a police state, and it's not too hard to tell, unless you're an idiot. Everyone on these forums should know this, with the knowledge of how cannabis was criminalized, and the users. The War on Drugs is just one characteristic of an authoritarian belief in laws and policies.
The original USA is gone, and the new, worse one will be gone soon when the NAU (North American Union) is formed. Then I would not doubt if after the NAU is created, many other "unions" will be created, and eventually be linked, and we will have the NWO. Say good-bye to even more of your human liberties, my friends! Unless you want to do something about it...
We outnumber the ruling elite and the federal government by a multiple-million fold. What makes you think we can't do something about it if we can bring a majority of the people to their senses? First comes knowledge, then a revolutionary foundation, and then revolution to overthrow the government. I personally think the people responsible for this whole mess should be executed; after all, they're responsible for millions of deaths. We can't let people control us like this, let alone given the chance to gain their power back and cause corruption even after a successful revolution.
Expect to see some major changes in our country, and eventually major changes in how people think about our government and the ruling elite! Expect changes... some good, some bad, some very bad.
They play us like we're in a game, and like the system is a game, and like life is a toy to be exploited.
angry nomad
09-04-2007, 12:40 PM
Egypt, Greece, Mongolia, Turkey... All these countries were once great empires, and they still live.
The Empire of the United Sates of America will fall. The republic is crumbling right now. I think we will have a US for many more centuries, but, it will not be the same.
The main problem is the breakdown of the family, and rampant apathy.
The New World Order, the Council on Foreign Relations want to destroy American sovereignty. The SPP/NAU will erase our borders. Orwell's Big Brother is right here and now. The Federal Reserve has destroyed our currency. The IRS is illegally taxing us. There is no law that states you have to pay a federal income tax. Yet, the government takes it automatically out of our paychecks. There is mercury in our vaccines and fillings, and flouride in the water. The war in Iraq is a sham. 9/11 was an inside job.
But, so many of us that are aware, and doing the best we can to save America, are caught up in the daily hustle of trying to pay the rent, student loans, or fighting our personal demons of the past because our childhoods were living hell, and we will spend our whole lives recovering from them.
Yet, I hope. I see more and more tolerance as each generation grows. I see less racism, sexism, and blind acceptance of the government's lies in each generation. The internet is an amazing way we can technologically tap into the global subconciousness of the human race. This is the digital Dreamtime. I see hope in alternative media, namely the internet, and the radio. TV is mostly lies, and they only mix in truth to confuse you.
Am I voting for Ron Paul? You bet your stash I am!
TheDefiler
09-04-2007, 01:21 PM
I for one can't wait to see this fucking pathetic government crumble! We need to get back to what we started with! Too much money and corruption in the government now!
MajMike
09-04-2007, 02:03 PM
"America" will/can never die, for it is a set of ideals (which we admittedly don't always live up to).
As for the nation, history has taught us that nothing lasts forever, but I don't see the end coming anytime soon.
My hope is that our citizenry will rise up, and make the needed changes by educating themselves politically and voting for their real interests (instead of the BS the govt/Dems/Reps sell with fear).
Peace.
wickerbill
09-04-2007, 04:43 PM
I think that the only thing that can bring the US down is the US. By that I mean that it is in danger of collapsing upon itself. When a hand full of people in power chip away at our gauranteed rights, arrogantly abuse it's power around the world, ignores the will of the masses, when 2% of the population has more wealth then the rest of the population combined, when work hours are longer,the cost of living higher, and wages are stagnet if not declining, when a major US city gets destroyed by a hurricane, is still not rebuilt 2 years later as we spend billions for an uncessary war, etc. etc. Draw your own conclusions. There are countless examples of fallen empires throughout history. The points that I have offered are but a few of the symptoms of teetering empires:cool:
nschell_420
09-05-2007, 02:44 AM
How will America end? Do some reading on Yellowstone Park/ Super Volcano.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
I watched that,and to be honest with you it scared the shit out of me.Seeing as I live 200 miles from where it located,I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH TIMe if that happens.:(
19Chuck85
09-05-2007, 11:46 AM
The fall of the US of A as a world power I believe will happen within my lifetime, and when it does fall, I hope to be as far from here as possible. The "United States of Canada" is not something I want to be around for. Speaking of which the North American Union as THEY call it by 2010? HAHAHAHAAAAaaaa if that is the case then why the fuck are thy making it so hard for us to go south of our border when not even 2 years ago we could cross with only a drivers license, now we need a pasport, and in 3 years we won't need either?
The "United States of Canada" comment has to do with the sudden slowing of the US economy and insane amount of work available up here.
KevinFinnerty
09-06-2007, 12:10 PM
The Christian Right will be the cause of this country's demise, and religious fanatics in general will probably lead the demise of earth as a whole. I mean, when a group of people openly and proudly disregards such "blasphemous" principles as reason and logic in favor of following the teachings of a bunch of glorified fairy tales, who knows what the hell they'll believe or do? If somebody says something like "I believe country X is evil and should be destroyed because, according to this book, God says so," and they have no other line of reasoning to back up their belief, what can you say to them? They won't provide any legitimate justification for what they think, and they've been conditioned to NEVER, under any circumstances, consider the fact that they maybe wrong. It may be decades, or even centuries, until it happens, but eventually the cults that call themselves Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc., will brainwash enough individuals with their teachings and gather enough power to do irreparable damage to this planet and it's inhabitants. It's only a matter of time.
Jah420
09-06-2007, 12:16 PM
hey, uh, buddy. i kinda live in a america so, uh, uh, uh, uh who?
nvm
giant ants
LMFAO that was so fuckin hilarious +rep :clap:
FreeVenice
09-06-2007, 12:41 PM
The US has deep roots around the world and if it were to fall, i'm almost possitive that many other countrys will fall before it. but if we were to say the US was taken down, i would say some kind of uncontainable virus or a major nuclear fallout, and I mean major. The main point tat we are missing is that, who ever has the land has the power, and unless you can take over 75% of a country a war will not be the cause. Even with nukes you would at least have to hit 30 states at least just to make a real dent. I see the UK falling before the US, and china/japan taking over the planet.
I don't know what it is, it's like if your born in another country the US is automatically the enemy. Just think where your country would be if it wasn't Americanized, no good music, fasion would probly suck, no movies, no good entertainment for that matter. What are you going to do watch soccer all day, while listening to Queen (oh wait, where did they get their inspiration), and im sure you will have a new "enemy" to talk crap about. . .ha im just talking trash. . .
in my opinion the human race has over stayed it's welcome on this planet, and no matter who the "big bad country" is it doesn't really matter. People will always be crying, people will always be ding, and thats because of your pride and arrogance. Find a way to take that from every single person on the planet and there will be peace. pick up a history book and help the world stop repeating mistakes. . .lets all remember who planted the "tree" we call the US.
Keep pointing the finger over here so no one can see what your up to, good job.
The US has deep roots around the world and if it were to fall, i'm almost possitive that many other countrys will fall before it. but if we were to say the US was taken down, i would say some kind of uncontainable virus or a major nuclear fallout, and I mean major. The main point tat we are missing is that, who ever has the land has the power, and unless you can take over 75% of a country a war will not be the cause. Even with nukes you would at least have to hit 30 states at least just to make a real dent. I see the UK falling before the US, and china/japan taking over the planet.
I don't know what it is, it's like if your born in another country the US is automatically the enemy. Just think where your country would be if it wasn't Americanized, no good music, fasion would probly suck, no movies, no good entertainment for that matter. What are you going to do watch soccer all day, while listening to Queen (oh wait, where did they get their inspiration), and im sure you will have a new "enemy" to talk crap about. . .ha im just talking trash. . .
in my opinion the human race has over stayed it's welcome on this planet, and no matter who the "big bad country" is it doesn't really matter. People will always be crying, people will always be ding, and thats because of your pride and arrogance. Find a way to take that from every single person on the planet and there will be peace. pick up a history book and help the world stop repeating mistakes. . .lets all remember who planted the "tree" we call the US.
Keep pointing the finger over here so no one can see what your up to, good job.
England will never fall. :thumbsup:
TheDefiler
09-06-2007, 03:19 PM
I recent read an article that was talking about how countries with the wealth more spread out amongst the populace have more civil liberties and countries where the wealth is controlled by a select few have less civil liberties. Well it seems the USA is falling into the area of less civil liberties and has been for a long time. Like i said before, I can't wait for this bullshit government to collapse...hell maybe even the whole country. Hopefully when it all goes down i'm gonna be in a much better country watching the carnage in America on the news. That's what it's gonna take to get people's heads' out of their asses and do something besides sit on their asses and read the latest celebrity tabloids cause their lives are so meaningless and boring that they have to live vicariously through other people.
epxroot
09-06-2007, 04:30 PM
If you really want to know how America will end just read some history books on how other countries that made money out of thin air fell. This country is going down hill fast, and will fall within the next 5 years. In the next 5 years America as we know it will be a distant memory. We are to caught up in ourselves to even notice. Our minds are being polluted and we are being distracted from what is really happening in the world. There is a plan that has been in the making for thousands of years. For those of you who don't believe in the father really should look into this subject a lot more, and no I am not talking religion here religion is a man made idea, and will be the downfall of the entire world. If you really want to know who is in power just do some research on the Black Pope, Jesuits, Free Masons, and ther ore other groups. This is not hogwash it is real. We are fighting against darker forces that do exist.
We will suffer another depression, and it will be soon. The american currency is not worth squat. We left the gold standard a long time ago, and gave the control of or monies to private groups. Think about this for a minute. How is it possible to print money out of thin air, and then charge intrest on it. Our Federal taxes go towards paying a ebt that can't be paid off because the money doesnt exist. It is a scam and we all except it. Why do you think we have a democracy? Do you know what a democarcy is? A democracy is 51% controlling the 49% and if you think you are in that 51% group think again. The 49% group are just here to slave away and line the pockets of the elites. We have some hard times ahead of us if we don't do something fast. We need to unite, and push all our differences to the side. The only problem is people are to loyal to the party they back when they should be loyal to the country they live in. I have drank way to much coffee and I am getting to restless to continue this post gotaa go do something lol.
PlantBoxer
09-06-2007, 04:59 PM
Someone above said this already, America was completely conqured in 1913, thru the Federal Reserve system, and the Income Tax.
It began then, removing all reffernces to our REPUBLIC, replacing them with the filthy DEMOCRACY word. Our nation is utterly lost, just look how far we are from our constitution. Look how badly our economy is, look how far the demise of the dollar has fallen since The Federal Reserver BANKSTERS took over our nation!!
Ask any politician the differences in a Republic and Democracy is, most will say, oh they are the same....that man or woman is your enemy!!
Go ask Ron Paul, Dr. No as he is called on the hill, as he will not vote for anything that goes against the constitution.
It's so good to read that so many of you get it, you young folks have been left holding a bag of burning shit!!! We have done this to ourselves, no nation, no ideaology, no terrorist, can do what has been done.....except those at the top of our nation!!
Iit's time to march on Washington, clog the streets, clog the interstates, clog up every square inch of the corrupt city, drive this scum and villeny out.
We should all know who signed for the FEDERAL RESERVE to come into power, and hunt that trash down, and throw them out of the USA, and start again...farther West this time.
Someone above said this already, America was completely conqured in 1913, thru the Federal Reserve system, and the Income Tax.
It began then, removing all reffernces to our REPUBLIC, replacing them with the filthy DEMOCRACY word. Our nation is utterly lost, just look how far we are from our constitution. Look how badly our economy is, look how far the demise of the dollar has fallen since The Federal Reserver BANKSTERS took over our nation!!
Ask any politician the differences in a Republic and Democracy is, most will say, oh they are the same....that man or woman is your enemy!!
Go ask Ron Paul, Dr. No as he is called on the hill, as he will not vote for anything that goes against the constitution.
It's so good to read that so many of you get it, you young folks have been left holding a bag of burning shit!!! We have done this to ourselves, no nation, no ideaology, no terrorist, can do what has been done.....except those at the top of our nation!!
Iit's time to march on Washington, clog the streets, clog the interstates, clog up every square inch of the corrupt city, drive this scum and villeny out.
We should all know who signed for the FEDERAL RESERVE to come into power, and hunt that trash down, and throw them out of the USA, and start again...farther West this time.
Agreed! The person who signed for the federal reserve died long ago: President Woodrow Wilson. But if you look at his journal, he states he made a grave mistake, and ruined the country. He was basically deceived into signing it...
You mean like the European union caused total economic disaster for Europe?
What I think will happen is that economic disaster will happen first, and then a "solution" will be posed, which will be the North American Union. What I'm getting at here is that this economic disaster won't be an accident...
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