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trupothead420
08-26-2006, 12:11 AM
i jus got a 60-100x pocket microscope from radio shack...now what is the best way to check them...by puttin it up to tha plant n lookin (which i am havin a hard time doin :P) or to cut a piece off and look(some one had said to do that) but would it stunt it or hurt it in some way?? thnx

BOYZNUS
08-26-2006, 12:14 AM
DUDE,, DO IT BEFORE YA GET STONED. IT'S ALOT EASIER.

trupothead420
08-26-2006, 12:17 AM
lol...well im not at tha moment...should i maybe trim a leave from near the main cola or..???

Racerx
08-26-2006, 06:12 AM
you need to turn off your fans and stabilize the scope. I use a camera tripod and duct tape the scope on. You can fashion a variety of stabilizers from a variety of household materials; long as you have duct tape your set.

Dutch Pimp
08-26-2006, 02:05 PM
i jus got a 60-100x pocket microscope from radio shack...now what is the best way to check them...by puttin it up to tha plant n lookin (which i am havin a hard time doin :P) or to cut a piece off and look(some one had said to do that) but would it stunt it or hurt it in some way?? thnx

Snip the smallest sample possible, off a bud leaf. Put it on a white paper plate. If you cut it small enough. the microscope will fit over it. No matter how small you cut it, you will still have to move the microscope around to view it all. You can take micro-samples all over your crop. (P.S...don't get resin on the lens- don't use rubbing achohol to clean lens)..60X is ideal.

4x5
08-26-2006, 02:18 PM
Make sure to view the trichomes in actual daylight (5500k) makes a BIG diff in what you see color-wise.

smoky mcpot 05
08-26-2006, 02:33 PM
you people are all fucked up, its a handheld microscope from radio shack. Trupothead, you have to do like I said in the other thread. You have to take a sample from the bud, its best to place it on a all blue surface. I told you it would be damn near impossible to see what you need to see on the plant, which by the way your most likely rupturing all kinds of trichomes while doing...(don't you listen!?)

Dutch Pimp
08-26-2006, 04:03 PM
...why put a sample on a blue surface?....with a pocket microscope, that has a light blub for illumination? True..true..I do get fucked up.

smoky mcpot 05
08-26-2006, 04:40 PM
trichomes show up better on a blue surface. There was an article in Red Eye and Weed World a few months back about a micro photographer, that was taking photos more than 100x. Photos of single trichomes, truely incredible stuff, anyway he's the one that discovered that. Also red works good too but not as well as blue. I was skeptical at first also but then I tried it and it does really make a world of difference. ;)

dryst
08-26-2006, 04:50 PM
smokey post some pics :D

trupothead420
08-26-2006, 06:31 PM
cool thnx ya'll...imma try a lil piece of leaf from the top...and place it on a blue surface...'preciate all tha help guys...:D

smoky mcpot 05
08-26-2006, 06:44 PM
you have to have actually bud, a few calyx's with leaflets, to get an accurate reading.

trupothead420
08-26-2006, 08:06 PM
you have to have actually bud, a few calyx's with leaflets, to get an accurate reading.

this thing is great!! have to play around wit ;) i took a piece of bud that i got to try it out and f*kin awesome..i also trim a leaf us to c but jus a bunch of dots...im tryin to take pics using the microscope so i can post em on here for yall, its a lil tricky but its def doable.....so u say to trim a piece of the bud wit cal and leaflets will that hurt the plants in ne way? do i jus clip it right t the stem at the bottom of the bud site or...????sry...im jus tryin to learn and figure this stuff out and so i dont f*k ne of them up ya know... ;) thnx....

smoky mcpot 05
08-26-2006, 09:46 PM
I told ya, as much as you will not want to do this, just clip a piece of bud off from the top, don't cut at the stem, just lop a little piece off. It won't affect the plants in anyway that you will see.

betterhomesandgarden
08-26-2006, 10:37 PM
Just grab the bud from behind and stabilize it against the scope. Make sure the battery is good, because those rat shack scopes drain the battery fast - and a low battery will give you a false reading. As far as clipping bud, I would not do that, if you like to look often.

BHG

trupothead420
08-26-2006, 10:53 PM
'preciate the info....i got a few pics for every one to look at and let me know what ya'll think.... they look more clear to me...a couple of red/amber ones......some 1 jus told me that they start off cloudy, then slowly clear, then turn and amberish color(like tha pistils do right?)...is that about right??? u want no cloudy ones right?? jus clear and amber color....more amber-higher potency,couch lock effect high......1/2-1/2 to more clear-more "up" high?? that sound right?? thnx....:D :stoned:

the image reaper
08-26-2006, 11:02 PM
the stages are: clear, milky, amber, in that order ... Clear trichome = THC not yet at its peak ... Cloudy, milky trichome = THC peaking, head high ... Amber trichomes = past maturity, body stone, 'couchlock' ... I prefer a 'head' high, so I harvest when I get about 5% amber trichomes, then I have a nice (for me) balance ... experiment to find what you like ... harvest some buds at each stage, and label them, for later identification ... :smokin:

dryst
08-26-2006, 11:09 PM
cloudy is what gets u high man...i harvest 80%-95% cloudy...

trupothead420
08-26-2006, 11:25 PM
the stages are: clear, milky, amber, in that order ... Clear trichome = THC not yet at its peak ... Cloudy, milky trichome = THC peaking, head high ... Amber trichomes = past maturity, body stone, 'couchlock' ... I prefer a 'head' high, so I harvest when I get about 5% amber trichomes, then I have a nice (for me) balance ... experiment to find what you like ... harvest some buds at each stage, and label them, for later identification ... :smokin:

great thnx brah...c its a good thing im askin these questions, other people tellin me the wrong order...lol....yea thats wha i am wantin is tha 'head' high...so 5% amber and the rest cloudy right? well i guess imma clip a lil piece of bud to get a better look, and try and get a pic.. i only clipped a lil piece of a trim leaf near the top thats those 3 pics...

trupothead420
08-27-2006, 12:15 AM
what does every 1 think bout these ones.....ya said to clip a piece of a bud from the top, but i clipped one from a lower brach, but the bud i clipped is near the top..tha branch grew bout 2-3 nodes down from the main cola....does this work...or does it def have to b from like the main cola or something....these also look pretty clear to me...couple amber here n there....but mainly clear right? none of them look cloudy/milky to me...and if they start from clear, then damn they must not b even close to being ready...or again is that from me not clippin it from the top branches... i mean hell, they been flowering for like 70 some days...sry again guys im just tryin to get this right and sh*t... :cool:

smoky mcpot 05
08-27-2006, 12:27 AM
first off, props for takening photos that look have decent through that scope, I honestly didn't think it was possible...you proved me wrong. Second, it goes from clear, cloudy/ milky, amber/ golden. He got that part right. But as far as effects. Clear, is pure THC, you will want to harvest your sativa or sativa dominant plants at this point to truely feel the best effects of the sativa high. It will be cerebral and a head high. Cloudy is starting to convert to CBN has a balance of high and body, harvest your hybrids at this point for a pretty even mix. Amber most of the THC has coverted to CBN and CBN's lesse psycoactive ingredient that I forget what its called right now. Couch lock, body high the best kinda high for pain relief. Harvest your Indica or Indica dominant plants at the point for the most couch lock/ pain relieving high. Your last set of photos look pretty good, lots of Capitate Stalked Trichomes, a few are getting ready to 'burst' with heads developing a little point meaning there packed full with THC and very easily ruptured. I'd say you have less than a week, to know for sure your going to have to nip a few calyx's off the top of the cola!

trupothead420
08-27-2006, 12:43 AM
first off, props for takening photos that look have decent through that scope, I honestly didn't think it was possible...you proved me wrong. Second, it goes from clear, cloudy/ milky, amber/ golden. He got that part right. But as far as effects. Clear, is pure THC, you will want to harvest your sativa or sativa dominant plants at this point to truely feel the best effects of the sativa high. It will be cerebral and a head high. Cloudy is starting to convert to CBN has a balance of high and body, harvest your hybrids at this point for a pretty even mix. Amber most of the THC has coverted to CBN and CBN's lesse psycoactive ingredient that I forget what its called right now. Couch lock, body high the best kinda high for pain relief. Harvest your Indica or Indica dominant plants at the point for the most couch lock/ pain relieving high. Your last set of photos look pretty good, lots of Capitate Stalked Trichomes, a few are getting ready to 'burst' with heads developing a little point meaning there packed full with THC and very easily ruptured. I'd say you have less than a week, to know for sure your going to have to nip a few calyx's off the top of the cola!

thnx....brah...i really 'preciate all ur help...its def been more than helpful...im gettin a lil confused here and there wit folks tellin me diff. orders and diff meanings...but thnx for clearin it all up...yea i was pretty amazed wit the pics myself lol....i guess imma go clip a piece of the cola :( and find out which is sativa/indica so i get a better idea when to harvest... ;) o wait u said "nip a few calyx's off the top of the cola"...jus the cal or a nice lil piece of bud.....??

trupothead420
08-27-2006, 01:03 AM
b/c i snipped a lil piece of bud what do i do wit it? i mean can i smoke it or will it b horrible?....the NL x BB is a hybrid right? so i should wait until they're cloudy? and the NL#5 is what indica? so wait til they r mostly amber?

smoky mcpot 05
08-27-2006, 02:32 PM
b/c i snipped a lil piece of bud what do i do wit it? i mean can i smoke it or will it b horrible?....the NL x BB is a hybrid right? so i should wait until they're cloudy? and the NL#5 is what indica? so wait til they r mostly amber?

just dry it out well, no point in curing such a little sample, and smoke it. And yea a little piece of bud. Also theres tons of information and dis-information going around the cannabis community in general. I speak only from first hand experience of over 25+ years the only information I will pass on is that which I know to be true, not just because I read it somewhere it must be true, because as you 'grow' in this game. You'll realize even the top 'cannabis experts' will completely disagree on some aspects and its your responsiblity to find out whats the truth. I say only the truth my friend. And your correct about the harvest points. Glad to help, hope I cleared up some of the confusion. Best of luck and a Happy Harvest. :thumbsup:

trupothead420
08-27-2006, 05:59 PM
yes u have been a tremendous help brah....i have learned alot jus from wha u have told me....and like u said im jus gonna have to find out form experience as well...im jus gonna go by the info u have shared wit me and my own judgment and c how i like them in different stages and what not...im jus having trouble determing tha color of the trics...i say they r mostly clear and my girl says she sees alot of cloudy nes...so i guess im jus gonna have to take a few more samples, compare them and jus go wit my own judgement...but i would believe they r close if not past, b/c they have been flowering like i said for over 70 days....again thnx for all the help thru this trics check and sh*t, i will keep u updated....Pzzz

smoky mcpot 05
08-27-2006, 06:47 PM
Thats great, thank you for your thanks, lol. Theres nothing that makes me happier than to help others to grow the best herb. Yes I too had trouble determining the color of trichomes at first. The best way is to look at them from the beginning of budding til harvest. (which of course you didn't have the option of doing this time) Also the issue of Weed World I believe it was 61 or 62 that had the micro photos of trichomes in different stages will help you alot. You might try to find something on it somewhere on the web. Its alot easier to judge when you have something to compare too. I would think the would be ready too as your strains are both indica dominant and 70 days is a bit long for a indica dom. hybrid. Again happy harvest. ;)

Bodom Children Of
08-30-2006, 01:43 AM
this may help

trupothead420
08-30-2006, 01:49 AM
this may help

Yo bodom....really 'preciate those pics.....that def helps a lot...i guess i was pretty much seein tha right colors for tha most part, jus had to be safe ya know.... thnx again and smoky...deep appreciation to u..... i have been harvesting the past 2 days and damn is it fun(and a pain in the ass) ;) will keep ya updated:stoned:

smoky mcpot 05
08-30-2006, 03:01 PM
To be honest, I had those photos of trichomes but I wasn't going to post them because the don't really show you the right thing. I mean ruffly there okay, but you'll never see anything that looks like that through the microscope. I'll try and find some online photos of what I was talking about and let you see the difference. Once again, glad to help out. And you have a great week sir! ;)