6 of 8! Sweet.......

[redman71]

Well I got lucky, they started pulling their pants down and letting me see, I got real lucky in that 6 of the 8 ended up showing me their beautiful white hairs! Check em out....any tips now?

[phytokind]

Nice photos. I've just sprouted four seedlings, hopefully one or more turn out female.

[redman71]

Just got in the mail my 3 pack bottles of Earth Juice- Grow, Bloom, and Cataylst.
Since I am in the first week of flowering should I use only the Bloom by itself, or should I make a cocktail of all 3, as there is a recipe on the bottle to do so for the flowering cycle. It is as following:

Per gallon of water:
Grow (2-1-1): 2tbsp
Bloom( 0-3-1): 1Tbsp
Catalyst(0.03-0.01-0.10): 2Tbsp
Meta-K: 2tsp
Microblast: 2 tsp

[Dutch Pimp]

Well I got lucky, they started pulling their pants down and letting me see, I got real lucky in that 6 of the 8 ended up showing me their beautiful white hairs! Check em out....any tips now?
TIPS? ....some reflective material would help. (mylar, white paint, foil, etc)

[redman71]

The closet is covered in Mylar...thanks though

[redman71]

This is Day 8 of flowering, and all are showing nice little flowers popping up everywhere, with the awesome little whites hairs curling everwhere. One night after my Earth Juice cocktail yesterday, I swear they grew a good inch or so over night!

[UMrocksmysocks]

ive got a couple questions..

what are you using, 400w?
what size are those pots-they look a little small
how long did you veg for and how tall is your tallest plant/???

[redman71]

I am using a 400W HPS,
the pots are a little small, but based on what stage I am at, I am not going to transplant. Dont see any roots coming out the bottom or anything, so hopefully will be ok.

My tallest plant is 30 inches tall right now
I vegged from June 1 to August 16th.

[Racerx]

Is the tallest one shown its sex yet? Just curious. Im pretty new to seeds and it seems like the males are almost always the fastest growing so Im curious if you found that at all.

PS. Your leaves curling down...whats the temp like? any airflow? if the heat isnt bad and you have airflow, then they are rootbound. My plants always cup and turn down the tips of their leaves when they are bound.

Instead of transplanting, just cut the bottom off the pot and put it into another larger pot. The roots will grow right into the large pot and the growth/bud production will really speed up.

[redman71]

Is the tallest one shown its sex yet? Just curious. Im pretty new to seeds and it seems like the males are almost always the fastest growing so Im curious if you found that at all.

PS. Your leaves curling down...whats the temp like? any airflow? if the heat isnt bad and you have airflow, then they are rootbound. My plants always cup and turn down the tips of their leaves when they are bound.

Instead of transplanting, just cut the bottom off the pot and put it into another larger pot. The roots will grow right into the large pot and the growth/bud production will really speed up.


I do have 3 fans in the 10x 12 room that the closet is in. 2 of the smaller ones are in the closet with the plants, I dont think the heat is too big of a problem, because the ventilation is pretty good in there. So with that said perhaps I should try the larger pot idea. They have all shown sex and are all females, some probably different strands then others, since these are bag seeders.

Very good idea on the larger pot thing, I think I shall do that this weekend. What size should I go up to? Thanks in advance:rasta:

[Racerx]

I do have 3 fans in the 10x 12 room that the closet is in. 2 of the smaller ones are in the closet with the plants, I dont think the heat is too big of a problem, because the ventilation is pretty good in there. So with that said perhaps I should try the larger pot idea. They have all shown sex and are all females, some probably different strands then others, since these are bag seeders.

Very good idea on the larger pot thing, I think I shall do that this weekend. What size should I go up to? Thanks in advance:rasta:

Well I would try transplanting 1 or 2 so you can see them side by side. If you like the results, do the rest. As long as you can cut the bottom off the pots gently without a lot of movement or shaking, it wont stress them one bit. Generally when I do it, I have a plant that has stunted and isnt growing as fast as the others. I transplant the pot into the new pot, and within 2 days they double or triple their previous growth rate. Well I usually double up, so if your doing 1 gallon, do 2 gallons or 3 gallons IF you have the space. Remember, it will make the plants taller.

The other method I use is a more advanced cutting method. Essentially, you just cut the bottom and the side of the pot, and leave just a tiny bit connected at the top lip. Then tape or tie some string around the pot to hold it together and gently put it into the new pot and fill dirt around the sides of the pot. Then slip a knife down in there and cut the tape/twine and the tiny bit at the top and you should be able to slide the pot out from around the plant. I use a Dremel or an airtool with a cutting disc. This time around I didnt have much space so I used 1 gallon containers and I had to transplant one plant (some need it, some dont). I went into a 2.5 gallon pot. In 2 days it grew more then it had in the last 2 weeks. Got to love visual evidence.

Good luck, the look VERY similar to the bagseed sativas that I am growing in soil right now.

[redman71]

RacerX thanks a lot for the tips man, I am going to cut the bottoms out today and put into bigger ones. Hey I was thinking of taking some clones today, I dont have anymore space so I was going to have to leave them on the 12/12 with the others. You ever have sucess with this?

[UMrocksmysocks]

ya that would work, i'd get a couple 42w cfl's too tho and put the clones in another little room to establish some roots

you could have a little sea of green :)

[redman71]

I took my first set of clones today from my 8 day flowering females. I put these clones under (2) 40W CFLS from lowes that are especially for plants, and aquarium life. They were a couple bucks more, but said had a really good blue and red range....we shall see, gonna try the 24hr bit on these and see. I swirlled them in Earth Juice Catalyst before putting them in their new little home of all organic soil, no ferts...

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[Racerx]

I took my first set of clones today from my 8 day flowering females. I put these clones under (2) 40W CFLS from lowes that are especially for plants, and aquarium life. They were a couple bucks more, but said had a really good blue and red range....we shall see, gonna try the 24hr bit on these and see. I swirlled them in Earth Juice Catalyst before putting them in their new little home of all organic soil, no ferts...

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Looking good! I generally say 7 days into flowering at the most, otherwise they can take a lot longer to revert back to veg. You should be fine with 8 days. Especially if they arent developing buds yet, just pistils. One thing though, I would definitely go with 18/6. While rooted plants may be able to take 24 hour, that constant heat and light isnt perfect for clones. They need time to rest. Dont be discouraged if they take a long time to root, clones can be in shock for quite a while, especially when going from flowering, but as long as they look healthy they will eventually root.

Here is another tip. If for some reason your clones fail, before you throw them away, throw them in water. They will perk right back up after a day or 2, even when they seem DEAD. Leave em in water until they show bumps or get them healthy again and then put them back into your medium and try again. I have done this not twice but three times once...and the thing finally rooted and turned into a great mother! I was hesitant to clone it but it didnt have any affect, was great.

[redman71]

Looking good! I generally say 7 days into flowering at the most, otherwise they can take a lot longer to revert back to veg. You should be fine with 8 days. Especially if they arent developing buds yet, just pistils. One thing though, I would definitely go with 18/6. While rooted plants may be able to take 24 hour, that constant heat and light isnt perfect for clones. They need time to rest. Dont be discouraged if they take a long time to root, clones can be in shock for quite a while, especially when going from flowering, but as long as they look healthy they will eventually root.

Here is another tip. If for some reason your clones fail, before you throw them away, throw them in water. They will perk right back up after a day or 2, even when they seem DEAD. Leave em in water until they show bumps or get them healthy again and then put them back into your medium and try again. I have done this not twice but three times once...and the thing finally rooted and turned into a great mother! I was hesitant to clone it but it didnt have any affect, was great.

RacerX-
You are the man! Thanks for all the tips and advice, I will follow your lead on these clones, I will post more pics soon to show some progess. Thanks again for your input man...here's a rip for you...:smokin: :stoned:

[redman71]

Ugh I got home today and the soil for my clones was dry and they were wilted over, green but they all looked like hell, I re-watered and partially put the humidity dome over the tray they are in. Should the fan be on around them? I am hoping they bounce back....

[redman71]

Ha they came back and look good today...

[UMrocksmysocks]

good to hear

picssssss?Ssssssssss>??

[redman71]

I cut the bottoms out of my old pots and put into some deeper bigger pots. Hope this allows more roots now. Have some nice buds forming in places, we shall see. My clones I thought were gonners came back today too...

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Day 12 of 12/12 cycle:

[redman71]

well finally went ahead and created a whole new veg room for my new clones. They are peppy and upright now, hopefully they stay that way. I will post pics of the old ladies when they wake up....

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