Are all girls just fake

[cannabis campbell]

Girls have to try and do all the stuff with their bodies so that they looked good eg shave all the hair of their legs, vagina, etc, all this make up, pluckin eyebrows etc it takes a girl hours to get ready and a man only has to have a shower and put on clothes.

You think, you go out and see so many sexy girl, if you get with one of them and start living with them one day and see them without make up, you eventually realise that she looks quite ugly! this isnt a sexist remark or anything i mean some girls do look ok without make up its just that most dont but thats probably only because were comparing them to what they look like with make up.

I bet this has probably happened to you before if youve been with a girl for a long time??

[BabyFacedAbortion]

Um, EXCUSE ME? Are you saying that basically all women look terrible without makeup on? I know many, many girls who look better without their 40lbs of makeup then with. I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences, like you have any right. Half the time, you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU. Some girls may enjoy makeup but in the long run, no girl wants to wear it. I don't know, I think you're being a douche. No offence :) By the way, makeup doesn't make a girl fake.

[FAllout]

nothign you can do about it?

[Skrappie]

maybe its because the only grooming you do is shower, is perhaps why you are having a hard time with girls.

[LIP]

Um, EXCUSE ME? Are you saying that basically all women look terrible without makeup on? I know many, many girls who look better without their 40lbs of makeup then with. I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences, like you have any right. Half the time, you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU. Some girls may enjoy makeup but in the long run, no girl wants to wear it. I don't know, I think you're being a douche. No offence :) By the way, makeup doesn't make a girl fake.

At the moment i have a beard... does that count as not shaving?

Campbell has a point though... what's the point of makeup?

[Inferius]

I hate makeup. I avoid girls who wear it. It might seem shallow, but makeup just makes girls look like whores to me. And I prefer someone with a healthy confidence, someone who feels beautiful without all that crap thats going to make their face fall apart in 20 years.
I also fucking HATE those sunglasses that are humongously round. The kind white girls wear while they pucker their lips and try to act "gangsta". Makes me want to vomit.

[MeatRulz]

this isnt a sexist remark or anything i mean some girls do look ok without make up its just that most dont but thats probably only because were comparing them to what they look like with make up.

I bet this has probably happened to you before if youve been with a girl for a long time??

i dont think he is being sexist baby face.

[friendowl]

i love to see a fine bitch wake up in the morning
looking all tore up
she can talk all th eshit she wants but the bottom line
is she is ugly
pretty girls need no make up

if your ugly and you know it clap your hands
if you a tore up ho who wears lots of make up stomp your feet

[amsterdammed]

i personaly prefer a woman not to wear make-up, or at the most a bit of light make-up. without all that shit on a womans face you can see her real beauty.
a lot of woman are beautiful man, i'm sure many guys and gals will agree with that.
you don't wanna spend the rest of your life banging your bischop do you?

[manshowboy487]

Girls are different. their brains work differently. they are naturally wired to value social relationships, and that was seems to drive them. They spend a lot of time and effort to feel accepted. A lot of girls are the same, but that's not to say they all are. I have met wonderfully open-minded intellectual girls. But sadly these characteristics rarely come along with beauty.

[cannabis campbell]

Um, EXCUSE ME? Are you saying that basically all women look terrible without makeup on? I know many, many girls who look better without their 40lbs of makeup then with. I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences, like you have any right. Half the time, you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU. Some girls may enjoy makeup but in the long run, no girl wants to wear it. I don't know, I think you're being a douche. No offence :) By the way, makeup doesn't make a girl fake.

no im not being sexist at all BFA im just saying women look better with makeup

i dont mean they look bad without it

but obviously dont look as good when they dont have if on but i dont mean that in a bad way at all not a sexist comment

i dont mean just make up makes you fake i mean because all a man has to do is

shave and shower

where are girls have to get everything damn thing on their body shaved, foundation, liquid eye liner, blusher, mascare, powder etc whatever else you know what i mean?

[Azalea Bloomfield]

I've noticed for years that some of my most beautiful female friends feel uncomfortable when they 'don't have their face on'...which makes me so sad. I feel quite certain that we get accustomed to things being/looking a certain way. So for girls who start painting their lovely faces while very young, they become used to how they look with make-up. I never wear make-up, not because I'm so exquisite I couldn't use some 'airbrushing', but I'm used to how I look without it, and so I think I'm beautiful without make-up, as are most of us. But it's a choice, I love a woman all dolled-up or glammed-out with fabulous cosmetics...but it doesn't make her fake, just a women exercising one of her many choices.

So dude, would you prefer we all stopped shaving our legs and under our arms, and other places we may be keeping silky smooth, to be more authentic to you? Then would we be 'real' :twocents: Genuinely, A.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I don't like all the makeup - just minimum amounts, if any. Being in shape is better, IMO.

Most of the models in NYC, when they're not working, wear little or no makeup, and dress in a t-shirts and jeans style. The no-makeup, t-shirt and jeans image turns me on more than the high-fashion and glamour look.

Women don't have to look like "models" to be just as attractive as anybody can. :dance:

[souldistortion]

asdfasfdas

[souldistortion]

you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU.

exactly his point, that is why men are real and women are fake. lol way to prove his point in an attempt to disprove it, oh the irony

[cannabis campbell]

lmao :D

[FeastonThisSHITT]

i love to see a fine bitch wake up in the morning
looking all tore up
she can talk all th eshit she wants but the bottom line
is she is ugly
pretty girls need no make up

if your ugly and you know it clap your hands
if you a tore up ho who wears lots of make up stomp your feet

LOL


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LOL

[souldistortion]

You know, this can all be proven with simply math.

let us say males=M and females=F

Assumption 1: The average female wears makeup

based on this assumption its safe to say that if we took an average male (M) and an average female (F) off of the street, the female would have makeup and be in her normal state, the guy would be relatively well groomed and in his normal state. but one key variable makes women different and that is little 'm' which is of course the universal variable constant for make up.

so we have a man who's attractiveness is equal to 75%

M + nothing = 75% attractiveness

and we have a woman, who's attractiveness is also 75% (they are average aren't they?)

F + m = 75% attractiveness

notice the extra 'm' variable, the removal of the make-up variable causes the equation's total to drop an astounding 50 percent or more. (you all know what I'm talking about

In conclusion: Men are more attractive beings. with the addition of even the slightest amount of 'm' we could far surpass 100% attractiveness making us all gods with faces carved from angels.

[souldistortion]

...

[souldistortion]

I just realized the solution to my equation. M>F

[Purple Banana]

LMAO soul distortion. It's interesting to see both perspectives; being a girl who used to never wear makeup. Many girls go all out and think they have to buy every single piece of cosmetic device known to woman to make themselves feel appreciated and valued, and others, like myself, use makeup EXTREMELY sparingly. The most I'll do is eyeshadow (nude colors) and mascara, but not nasty clumpy thick mascara. Maybe foundation if my skin is a bit odd looking. But I'd much rather have the less physically attractive guy than the "hot" abercrombie and fitch wannabe douchebag. I actually prefer the nerdy kind of guy who wears Family Guy t shirts and doesn't shave, but is nice and funny as hell. Humor is #1.

[graph]

But I'd much rather have the less physically attractive guy than the "hot" abercrombie and fitch wannabe douchebag. I actually prefer the nerdy kind of guy who wears Family Guy t shirts and doesn't shave, but is nice and funny as hell. Humor is #1.
Wow, thanks for making me realize what a sack of crap my life really is.

Just kidding, I don't wear the t shirts.

[souldistortion]

nice, that sounds like ME! except i have the advantages of the abercrombie and fitch guy too, without the douchebaggery! actually i dont, but i am funny as hell. I really respect the fact that you use make up so sparingly. thast very smart because as every great guitarist knows: the best effects are the ones you dont notice, that slight echo that makes my guitar solos sound awesome that you didnt even know was there until i turned it off. Subtly is beautiful. I shouldn't remember that make up even exists when i look at a girls face. I want to say, wow, thats a gorgeous girl, not wow, thats a lot of make up.

[napolitana869]

I only wear full on make up (powder and all that) when I want to look really nice like out to a nice dinner or something. If I'm going to a party or something where I want people to think I look nice I just wear eye liner. For going to work and class and everyday things I dont wear anything because make up costs alot and takes too much time to put on and I would rather use that time to sleep in. and my boyfriend doesnt seem to mind so thats the way its going to stay.

[souldistortion]

I only wear full on make up (powder and all that) when I want to look really nice like out to a nice dinner or something. If I'm going to a party or something where I want people to think I look nice I just wear eye liner. For going to work and class and everyday things I dont wear anything because make up costs alot and takes too much time to put on and I would rather use that time to sleep in. and my boyfriend doesnt seem to mind so thats the way its going to stay.

sounds like a stoner chick to me :thumbsup: haha your boyfriend is chill

[crudemood]

I'd say this whole make-up thing is a product of the media.
Someone said it was 'pretty' to be wearing pounds of make-up and suddenly everyone had to wear it.
I honestly do wear makeup from time to time but not all the time to the point where people are so used to the makeup that not wearing it will be such a big deal.
I think theres alot of pressure on girls to be a 'proper' girl. I don't think it makes them fake. Fake all comes in personality and in most cases, lots of make up = lots of fake personality.

The End.

[souldistortion]

I honestly do wear makeup from time to time but not all the time to the point where people are so used to the makeup that not wearing it will be such a big deal.

make the rest of the world follow your examlpe and we wont have to deal with girls being fake anymore.

[cannabis campbell]

You know, this can all be proven with simply math.

let us say males=M and females=F

Assumption 1: The average female wears makeup

based on this assumption its safe to say that if we took an average male (M) and an average female (F) off of the street, the female would have makeup and be in her normal state, the guy would be relatively well groomed and in his normal state. but one key variable makes women different and that is little 'm' which is of course the universal variable constant for make up.

so we have a man who's attractiveness is equal to 75%

M + nothing = 75% attractiveness

and we have a woman, who's attractiveness is also 75% (they are average aren't they?)

F + m = 75% attractiveness

notice the extra 'm' variable, the removal of the make-up variable causes the equation's total to drop an astounding 50 percent or more. (you all know what I'm talking about

In conclusion: Men are more attractive beings. with the addition of even the slightest amount of 'm' we could far surpass 100% attractiveness making us all gods with faces carved from angels.

took me a while to understand it but yeah i see what you mean

basically all men have to do is shave and women will find us attractive sometimes we dont even have to do that

but women have to do more things to feel attractive and good about themselves (does that make them insecure?) but if they never did in the first place then we wouldnt know about make up and would care about it and we would just think that women naturally look good without it just like men, because your not used to seeing us wear make up because we dont do it but if we did and then we suddenly stopped you would think all are unattractive

see what i mean?

[souldistortion]

yeah man i gotcha lol. that was my way of making a simple concept as complicated as fucking possible in case you didnt notice haha. i really just want to piss some bitches off. im just kidding, i love females to death i just like to debate them and make them defend their species because its the internet and im stoned. haha and no girls are insecure for wearing make up. we are a species that passes down information (culture) and because its in our culture. just like a lot of other things that girls wouldnt know about if it wasnt thrown in their faces. The western world is a makeup wearing culture. thats just how we are. every culture is differnt and people follow after the trends of their culture.

[SpiritLevel]

Makeup? False appearance? See Worthy? Makeup is shyt. Makeup is war paint. Make up is what you do when you get out of bed; you make it up (the bed) because your sleepy ass been tossing and a turning all night. Make up is what you do when the reality is grim; you make shyt up to make reality great again. Makeup should be called Telling Lies/Cloaking the Truth. The title of the thread will then apply. But this is just IMO

War paint is used when one is goin to do battle. War paint is camoflage. Makeup is worn to fight a man's negative opinon on a woman's ugliness while out on the battlefield. Some girls NEED it, but I prefer those who do not.

[Kenn]

Ive been with the same girl for 10 years and still find her sexy as hell ,sure no one looks their best in the mornin especially after abig nite,have u looked at ur self strait outta bed in the mirror? My girl usually puts make up on when we go out the rest of the time not at all. Hell beauty is only skin deep anyway theres alot more to a relationship than looks.If my girl had an accident say and burnt her face up bad,would i stop lovin her then...no way id still love her the same.:)

[souldistortion]

Makeup? False appearance? See Worthy? Makeup is shyt. Makeup is war paint. Make up is what you do when you get out of bed; you make it up (the bed) because your sleepy ass been tossing and a turning all night. Make up is what you do when the reality is grim; you make shyt up to make reality great again. Makeup should be called Telling Lies/Cloaking the Truth. The title of the thread will then apply. But this is just IMO

War paint is used when one is goin to do battle. War paint is camoflage. Makeup is worn to fight a man's negative opinon on a woman's ugliness while out on the battlefield. Some girls NEED it, but I prefer those who do not.

oh my fucking god i love you hahahaha

[bud breath420]

im suprised only babyfaced has realy said something about this thread... i would have thought more girls would have said stuff... im disapointed... i blame the media for this whole thing... they see girls looking beautiful in magazine and on the tv and crap and they try to mimick that apearance to attract attention (from men or whatever)...id rather just talk to someone for who they were not for what they look like... girls arent fake the appearance they put on to impress others is though but on the other hand looking nice has nothing to do with being fake does it?... this is so god damn confusing!! well shit thats me!! im all out of thoughts! peace ppl!!

[SpiritLevel]

lol @ bud breath420

Can't blame the media! Alright, the media does do ALL it can do to entice people to think that if they 'have this' or 'do that' that they will feel better. The objective of advertising is to make people think they will altogether have a better life if they buy and use a particular product. No one can show me an advert where the Sales & Marketing Army are not trying to show you how happy or better off you can be after spending money then using their product. That is part of the game.

Goin slightly off tangent; Magazines and particular publications get paid to sell you stuff. Often a celebrity or model is used to sell a product. Society then becomes modelled on celebs and/or models. Celebs are modelled on models which is clear in their choice of designer wear. Models are celebs. Everyone is then made to look at the advertisement and subliminally think if they are like that person then they will be as happy as the individual in the photo or on screen. Getting paid big bucks keeps the smile on most celeb faces. But the same emotional things that affect all our 'happinesses' affects them too, but the advertisers can't show you that.

Concluding then, IMO, buying and using products that one thinks is goin to make them more attractive in some way decides the result that the sales people have done their job well, and not much else. So yes, people/men who think that a fast car; lots of money; a boat on the ocean; a mansion in the hills will make them more attractive to women are as fake as women with makeup who think that a mask somehow displays the real inner self. (I think I am goin a little to far here).

@ BB420 are the girls in the mags and on tv really that beautiful in the first place? Shallow people look in mags and dream of being that individual in the picture. To mimick an appearance; is that not to be fake? To try to impress, or to attract the attention of someone, by means of looking a certain way means essentially that a person is willing to put up a 2 dimensional picture of themself before anything else and hope to be recognised. Recognised as what? If I look at an attractive girl my initial thought might not be bedding her unless her tits are in my face or other subtle signs that indicate sexual tendencies are on show. Makeup is for one thing, to make oneself feel better by having people pay attention to them. Or lack of self love and confidence in ones' self could be an additive.

I could go on but it's bout time I stopped cause this post is slowly detracting from the topic. FAKE!

[orange floyd]

i hate how people are suckers for the media. im not even attracted by most of the models on TV/magazines because they don't even look real. when it comes between a 90 pound girl with no boobs and a pretty face that probably looks like crap without make to a girl thats a normal weight and has a nice rack and ass and looks decent without a shitload of makeup, i definately go for the latter. fuck all those anorexic models on tv they dont even look good

[SpiritLevel]

:thumbsup: @ orange floyd.. know what u mean

[NightProwler]

llol. i actually think the opposite.too make up on girls makes them look very unattractive to me. lol you [pretty much said that almost everygirl is ugly without her makeup on.

make up is fake, not girls

[bud breath420]

damn if only girls looked like the magazines i look at... although having women run around naked all day hmmm ... naw never mind me im stoned

[Captain Hanks]

Girls have to try and do all the stuff with their bodies so that they looked good eg shave all the hair of their legs, vagina, etc, all this make up, pluckin eyebrows etc it takes a girl hours to get ready and a man only has to have a shower and put on clothes.

You think, you go out and see so many sexy girl, if you get with one of them and start living with them one day and see them without make up, you eventually realise that she looks quite ugly! this isnt a sexist remark or anything i mean some girls do look ok without make up its just that most dont but thats probably only because were comparing them to what they look like with make up.

I bet this has probably happened to you before if youve been with a girl for a long time??

haha, i know exactly what you mean and that is why i prefer on calling it "fake-up"...

i allways make sure a girl is hot without makeup before dating her

[Kryzco]

i'm a female

but I'm basically anti makeup and all that jazz

but then again' I ain't what you would consider pretty

[souldistortion]

i think because stoners are more relaxed and prefer things unaltered, we prefer our ladies to be unaltered. i dont want to wonder whether they added somthing to get what im seeing. i want them, purley them and nothing else. i am officially anti make up because of this thread

[SocksThaClown]

I agree with Orange Floyd. Most of the 80/90lbs girls don't really have much personality. All shallow and emotionless from botox...:eek:

[welshkillabee]

My girl wears no make up at all she is naturally beautiful :thumbsup:

[Azalea Bloomfield]

Hi welshkillabee,
I was wondering, if your lovely girl wasn't 'naturally beautiful', would she try to create some illusions with make-up? Or maybe she is so beautiful because she feels beautiful, and is perhaps free-thinking and unindoctrinated, which are beautiful qualities and are reflected on our faces, IMO, and...well, what came first, the beauty, or the foregoing make-up? You see my point/question? I'm nicely baked and trying to corral my thoughts...As a general rule, as a woman, I see that women that alter themselves the most--even if it's just with a lot of make-up, tend to be less comfortable in their own skin, perhaps have deeper neurosis due to media influence , etc., and so from a deep place they are trying to 'fit in', which demands some level of fakeness*, cuz this world is quite insane and if you try to fit the 'image', you exchange your wild/real self for the plastic version, to one degree or another. I'd appreciate hearing what anyone thinks...
*but ultimately I don't harsh on, or judge any of my sisters for their own choices--even though I wish they'd all rebel against the darned 'beauty industry' that does nothing but create eating disorders in 9 year olds and...sorry, that's another thread. Makes me mad though! :dance: Dance it out...

[SpiritLevel]

Same thread Azalea Bloomfield (http://boards.cannabis.com/member.php?u=54736). This topic, as with most topics, overlap into other areas. Its quite hard to give real responses to some statements without talking of subjects that are related, even if the average person doesn't see the link. Crazy society is trained to split thing up and find no relevance between right and left... what I mean is we forget that right compliments left and that they are essentially part of the same being. Like media, models, anarexia, fast food, Giovani Versache or whoever are the same subject because the media can depict a model in designer clothes who won't eat nothin but 2 McNasty fries and looks anarexSICKYsicksick. Speak your mind and tell us Guys how it really is for women

[Azalea Bloomfield]

There are few things more satisfying than feeling heard, and understood, and finding solidarity with others...that's how I feel in reading your response to my post, SpiritLevel :clap: . To believe that these seemingly unrelated 'trends' in our society are unrelated is to swallow the 'fake' propaganda that leads us to brainwashed lives of consumerism and conformity. So am I 'fake' cuz I made my hair pink and purple, the colors of my spirit? I'm the artist and the canvass and I do what I do to be true to myself, to express my deepest self for my own satisfaction and expansion of my deepest self...I think there's a difference in 'alterations' to one's physicality based on 'intention' as well. Do you think I'm still in the same 'thread'? :dance: cuz this site and you people are so awesome! :smokin: Mmmm,mmmm, gooood...Azalea

[Phantomnesia Phoenix]

I don't know about you guys, but I have some girl friends who are stunning with or without makeup, its just a different look. Really I don't care if they wear makeup or not, I actually like the morning after look best of all. Well most of the time at least.

[napolitana869]

you know, if youre ugly make up doesnt really help. you just have to be happy with who you are

[cannabis campbell]

True ^^^

but if your ugly make up does actually help lol

[orange floyd]

True ^^^

but if your ugly make up does actually help lol

i think makeup makes ugly girls even uglier

[IanCurtisWishlist]

i would be happy if all girls stopped wearing makeup. makeup is a bunch of bullshit, it's just consumerism. it's like marilyn manson once said in Bowling for Columbine, "buy the acne medicine or the girl won't fuck you"... same thing applies to women and makeup... you gotta have makeup or guys won't notice you. it's a fucked up mentality. and personally i feel this idea of the perfect woman makes girls live up to standards which are by no means "normal" or healthy for that matter. women are expected to be perfect models for their men. in a sense i feel bad for them and on the other hand i feel disgust. i guess i'm somewhat of a femenist by nature.

ladies , throw away your makeup and show us your natural beauty.

[Ammie]

make up can be fun, but it has to be tasteful.
If u look way different with make up then u do with out u are obvisouly wearing to much.
its all about the natural look.:D
atleast thats what i like but hey, to each is own right ;)

[Kryzco]

good post ammie

for me make up should be used to accentuate your best features

not for false advertising and looking like a cheap hooker

[SpiritLevel]

mainly @ Azalea Bloomfield (http://boards.cannabis.com/member.php?u=54736). The question raised in the title of the thread is 'Are all girls just fake?'. Cannabis Campbell gave a few examples of what can be percieved to be the actions of faking ones appearance. It just so happens that makeup was the baton that many picked up and ran with. No one has really touched on anything else that compliments how one can be perceived as fake. There are lots of additives that can be compounded into this topic.

Freedom of Self Expression differs some what from Fakin It. Freedom to express oneself through wearing makeup puts a thin line between Freedom and Fakeness. To express freely would be to not give a rats ass about what the next person's perception would be. Getting dolled up to look sexually attractive means that the individual is totally caught up on how other people see them. Leaving the house, on the other hand, looking like a tramp *cough* means that the individual has prioritised their appearance behind something else. hummmm. But looking unkempt could also be fake as some women do get fed up of attention (or at least they say they do while thrusting their titties in my face) because they are so naturally beautiful.

So, Azalea Bloomfield (http://boards.cannabis.com/member.php?u=54736)'s statement reading '..I think there's a difference in 'alterations' to one's physicality based on 'intention' as well..' Is right on point. Unless we know one's intention, we cannot simply deduce whether they are fake of freely expressing their self. If one has an intention then it is premeditated and decided that one will do that to achieve this; so thats like doing something on purpose to achieve particular results as oppose to doing nothing and not expect anything. I suppose their actions and body language, while wearing The Mask, confirms factors that stray into area of psychology and subjects like that. Gee the media has done a lot to confuse the deduction of whether or not someone is naturally doing something or if they are guided.....?!%^%$"

[Davidj56]

I think girls with makeup.. Or 2 Much makeup look like clowns

[deftdrummer]

Girls are different. their brains work differently. they are naturally wired to value social relationships, and that was seems to drive them. They spend a lot of time and effort to feel accepted. A lot of girls are the same, but that's not to say they all are. I have met wonderfully open-minded intellectual girls. But sadly these characteristics rarely come along with beauty.

MANSHOWBOY hit the nail on the head! there is the arguement that it is hardwired in the sexes. ie: males have the ego, while females are attracted to this ego sometimes subconsciously. Think of it like a natural balance between the sexes.

[Azalea Bloomfield]

Hi All, and SpiritLevel thanks for catching me up on the foundations of the discussion.

Regarding this idea introduced by SpiritLevel:
>But looking unkempt could also be fake as some women do get fed up of attention (or at least they say they do while thrusting their titties in my face) because they are so naturally beautiful.

I just find that SO funny...perhaps someone could assist these poor, desirable women that suffer through so much bothersome attention...Give them solace by letting them know that in our particular youth-oriented culture of the good 'ol USA, they will be considered 'over the hill' soon enough. In about the time it takes to turn the toxin from the bacteria and spores of the Clostridium Botulinum strain into a nifty syringe full of Botox, they will be rescued, so to speak, from all that pesky attention :thumbsup: Even that great rack will only defy gravity for so long...so fear not troubled 'hotties'! That just strikes me as so funny, picturing what you said...

deftdrummer, hi!, is there anyway you could rephrase what you posted so I could understand what you mean? I wanna get it, but the 'balance of the sexes' due to the 'strangely' attractive male "ego"...? Help me to comprehend you, I've been known to be dense on occassion. ;)

And since I'm feeling chatty...It is difficult to know how much we've been influenced by the ubiquitous media SpiritLevel. Even with concerted efforts to remain authentic and rooted in what is real (which I realize is subjective, reality I mean), everything get's co-opted eventually it seems like. Has anyone brought up breast implants? If a woman gets them for her carreer, lets say, is she fake, or a savvy business woman? Or both?

This comedian has a great line where he asked a female friend of his why she had gotten breat implants and he mimicks her saying "well they're bigger now, and look how bouncy they are, and the men LOVE them, they love the bigger breasts!" And he says, "well men love beer too, so why don't you have a tap installed on your forehead?" It was funnier when I heard him say it, but it's a good point, I think. For whom do we do the things that we do? And to what end? I'm far too restless...I could either go and walk it off, or...:smokin: just roll and chill. Warm Regards, Azalea

And my standard disclaimer: My sisters have my support in doing WHATEVER they choose to do, regardless, as long as they are not hurting another. A.

[Azalea Bloomfield]

I was just thinking that people that are really honest about what's fake about themselves can make the 'fake' just another part of what is endearing about them, like Pamela Anderson...I don't know her, but she seems to be a kind-hearted, charitable person, a vegan, a seemingly righteous babe...and honestly fake. :smokin:

[SpiritLevel]

Maybe Pams kind heart, charity and vegan diet would mean NOTHING to the world had it not been for those baywatch implants and well maintained barbie doll appearance. (I am those three things but the world don't see it, I bet if I was a male Pam the world would) Had she been a bit of an overweight, flat chested moose would the media feel that she was worthy of having stories published about her?

I didn't know she was any of those three things until you said it, but I did know she got big titties and a slim build. She's sold herself wrong IMO cuz most people will only recall the physical attributes of her existence as oppose to what she stands for. She could come to me for a job within the vegan society and I'd just be conditioned to think she is obsessed with her appearance. I'd probly already have a preconceived decission in my head as to whether or not I want her on board and if I were a 2 dimensional thinker my analysis of her persona wouldn't go further than looking at her tits and imagining her lips round my cock.. Some managers do attempt employ women on this basis alone!
I gotta take a break, last sentence has thrown me somewhat........

[Markass]

Personally, I mostly try to find the ladies that don't wear makeup...you know what they're always going to look like, and if they look fine without makeup, then why would they need to wear it? Woot. I donno..

[Shannon]

Um, EXCUSE ME? Are you saying that basically all women look terrible without makeup on? I know many, many girls who look better without their 40lbs of makeup then with. I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences, like you have any right. Half the time, you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU. Some girls may enjoy makeup but in the long run, no girl wants to wear it. I don't know, I think you're being a douche. No offence :) By the way, makeup doesn't make a girl fake.

Amen.

[deftdrummer]

shannon you look hot without makeup

[orangeman]

Um, EXCUSE ME? Are you saying that basically all women look terrible without makeup on? I know many, many girls who look better without their 40lbs of makeup then with. I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences, like you have any right. Half the time, you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU. Some girls may enjoy makeup but in the long run, no girl wants to wear it. I don't know, I think you're being a douche. No offence :) By the way, makeup doesn't make a girl fake.

Lol CC you got pwnt xD.

[Green Love]

No, howd you come too that conclusion about women?

[likemclever]

I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences,

Me too. Its been my experience that those men are fucking shallow and not worth the effort to begin with.

As for make up. I wear it when I feel like it and donâ??t when I donâ??t.

[Green Love]

my girls be real.
everything else be
fake.

[SpitfireIRL]

Naw. That's bullshit. I think my gf is just as beautiful, if not more, without make-up.

[Fluffy]

Girls have to try and do all the stuff with their bodies so that they looked good eg shave all the hair of their legs, vagina, etc, all this make up, pluckin eyebrows etc it takes a girl hours to get ready and a man only has to have a shower and put on clothes.

You think, you go out and see so many sexy girl, if you get with one of them and start living with them one day and see them without make up, you eventually realise that she looks quite ugly! this isnt a sexist remark or anything i mean some girls do look ok without make up its just that most dont but thats probably only because were comparing them to what they look like with make up.

I bet this has probably happened to you before if youve been with a girl for a long time??OK, about the shaving part.... Would you rather see a bunch of cavewomen running around? I can go with or without make-up. But as the trimming and being clean.....i get to it. It makes me feel good. I do it for me noone else. :) I go for skincare, then make-up if needed. :)

[stinkyattic]

I go for skincare, then make-up if needed.
Right on.
Makeup can just make people look silly, fake, creepy... look at Michael Jackson, lol! Or Barbara Walters... creeee-----py!
I appreciate when people make the effort to look neat. The fellas need to pluck sometimes too! Ahem, nose hair, guys? If your skin and hair look healthy, makeup is just not necessary! It can be FUN though... :D

[cannabis campbell]

OK, about the shaving part.... Would you rather see a bunch of cavewomen running around? I can go with or without make-up. But as the trimming and being clean.....i get to it. It makes me feel good. I do it for me noone else. :) I go for skincare, then make-up if needed. :)

Well if women NEVER wore make up and NEVER shaved anything then we would be used to it :) you see where im coming from? like men if all of us shaved our whole body then you would be used to that and find us really unattractive if we didnt shave our whole bodys lol

[powair]

Um, EXCUSE ME? Are you saying that basically all women look terrible without makeup on? I know many, many girls who look better without their 40lbs of makeup then with. I'm so tired of hearing men talk about women's appearences, like you have any right. Half the time, you guys don't even shave and we spend atleast an hour a day making ourselves look nice for YOU. Some girls may enjoy makeup but in the long run, no girl wants to wear it. I don't know, I think you're being a douche. No offence :) By the way, makeup doesn't make a girl fake.

In resonse to this, i am a girl and i would never spend even close to an hour getting ready. I dont even brush my hair i just put it back lol. I know im sexy just being me. In my opinion, makeup and shit may not make a girl fake, but it sure makes them insecure.

[blackbarbie]

It's like damned if you do, damned if you don't. If a girl is "natural" then people would say that she doesn't take an effort in her appearance, and she should be more girly. If a girl likes to doll up, then people say that she's insecure and that she's secretly ugly. Fuck that. It's funny how what a girl looks like is a big issue, but we're lucky if half the guys out there wash between their nuts.

I do things depending on my mood. Sometimes I'll put my hair in a ponytail and wear no makeup like I don't give a fuck, but others I'll spend like 3 hours getting ready to look cute.

And wearing makeup doesn't mean a girl is insecure either...I wear makeup, I love it. It's fun to put on, honestly. It's like an art form. I wear different looks to go with my mood.

[cannabis campbell]

^^^

its bad for your skin and unhealthy

[birdgirl73]

Makeup's not bad for the skin. Not all of it, at least. There are lots of cosmetics that moisturize and provide sunscreen protection and are very good for the skin, in fact.

[suhl]

uh girls you dont spend the hours looking nice for guys, that is for you. why else would you get mad at guys for staring at your body when you have on ga skin tight outfit that you spent so long picking out. i really dont need to explain why but most guys couldnt tell the difference if you spent 10 minutes on the makeup. good is good bad is bad. makeup can be good can be bad. all things in moderation, some girls dont need it. but might as well say no girls need to dye their hair but shit all of them do it. i really dont know what im talking about but if you already look good that hour you spend getting ready is for you and not the guy. thanks fokes

[cannabis campbell]

lmfao are you stoned because that confused me so bad

[l33t h4x0r]

Cambell, you putting on nice looking clothing is the same as girls putting on makeup... both of you are just trying to look nice, taking something not from your body that you like and putting it on your body every day.

[azure]

Cambell, you putting on nice looking clothing is the same as girls putting on makeup... both of you are just trying to look nice, taking something not from your body that you like and putting it on your body every day.

yes they may both be trying to look nice but those are two completely different things, omfg.
Most clothing you wear primarily to keep warm and protect yourself, yes it comes in different designs but the big difference is its a necessity, not something which you use to make your actual body that you where born with look different.

[CChrisgat05]

i've lived with a gf of mine and all she did was wear make-up and she even slept in it i remember the only time i seen her without is and i was like ok its over and from that point on i've been single looking for a girl who doesnt give a shit about make up but it just dosent seem to happen so i will stay single though it kinda sux since im going on 3 years now. i mean the shaving of the legs and shit like that is all fine and dandy i like that but the make up thing is to much if there are any natural women out there keep it that way make up is horrible and alot of the stuff has animal by-products in it.

[suhl]

the difference is girls put on nice looking clothing too, so that comparison doesnt really make sense, id say a guy wearing nice looking clothing and a girl wearing nice clothes is more similar than a guy wearing nice clothes and a girl wearing makeup

[Cheery Cherry]

I think people should spend more (or equal) time working on their inner beauty as they do on the external beauty. I see more and more "fake" guys nowadays too with dying/straightening hair, maybe even use hairspray and crap...

I do wear make-up and I can also go without...really depends on my mood and situation that I am in (like I'm not going to bother with makeup while camping or just to run to a store, etc.) and I have heard guys tell me that I look better without make up but I like wearing it sometimes. It's just one of those things that I have fun with. Just like shopping for clothes...I enjoy having (or shopping for) shoes that match every outfit I own or matching my purse...it's just fun for me. I don't do it for men and I don't do it for other women, I do it for me and if it makes me feel good..dammit, I'm doing it. If that makes me fake...well, it really doesn't matter because I don't feel fake and how I feel about myself is more important. :)

[Oblio]

FOOD FOR THOUGHT...

Women wear high heals to make them look taller.
Women wear bras to make the breast look better.
Women wear make-up to hide their real appearance.
Women wear hose to make their legs look nicer.
Women wear ....yada yada yada
Then they go out looking for a real man!

Here is a simple test..ask any friend to see their high school yearbook. When looking over the pics, notice the ones with heavy make-up. 90% of the time the ones you notice were the class ho's. Heavy "war paint" is typically a sign of insecurity. This same insecurity makes them search out acceptance by using sex. In a nutshell...instead of doggin' a lady for 2 inch thick plaster on her face try giving positive statements about them so they do not feel the "NEED" to spend 2 hours getting ready to go wash the car or check the mail. I am not saying this is true 100% of the time, but can almost be used as a rule of thumb.

If you discuss this topic with a female and at any given point she feels personally attacked....the discussion is 100% over! It is now a defensive battle. Most women will even defend the points fully knowing she is wrong.

In a society that is superficial as ours it is not hard to understand why the corporate world pushes this billion dollar industry down our throats. Sad part is how it personally effects females self-worth and demeans natural bueaty.

[CChrisgat05]

wow oblio great way of puttin it in words

[shilling]

Amen.

schwing! You're hot!:rasta:

[cannabis campbell]

damnn

[CChrisgat05]

schwing! You're hot!:rasta:


LOL whos that for

[NightProwler]

girls think theyre fooling everybody when theyve got make up on. they dont realize that guys know if youve got beauty or not. but hey internal beauty is what really counts so its alright if your face/body isnt beautiful.

[mushypeas]

Girls have to try and do all the stuff with their bodies so that they looked good eg shave all the hair of their legs, vagina, etc, all this make up, pluckin eyebrows etc it takes a girl hours to get ready and a man only has to have a shower and put on clothes.

You think, you go out and see so many sexy girl, if you get with one of them and start living with them one day and see them without make up, you eventually realise that she looks quite ugly! this isnt a sexist remark or anything i mean some girls do look ok without make up its just that most dont but thats probably only because were comparing them to what they look like with make up.

I bet this has probably happened to you before if youve been with a girl for a long time??

all i do is brush my hair and teeth and im ready to go i dont like make up i think it looks fucking rediculus it reminds me of clowns... i dont like clowns lol also noticed alot of the girls sayin make up is shit too are caked in it u all look like goths lol