Rolling: A Tutorial

[Binzhoubum]

I am bored and I just saw another post where someone wanted to know how to roll, so I thought I would make a tutorial and try to explain the best I can how to roll a good joint. :thumbsup:

Obviously, the first thing you need are materials:

-Papers
-Roach Material
-Brace (Optional, but well help beginners and ensure proper distribution of -smoking product IMO)
-Cannabis Product

Picture 3 shows the brace I made.

Picture 4 is the roach. Just take a business card, cut off a portion of it, and tightly roll it in to a cylinder.

Picture 5 are the materials I will be using in this particular joint: From top left in clockwork fashion: 1) Tobacco, 2) Weed, 3) Hashish 4) Hempka (something made by dissoliving powdered kief in medical alcohol and cooking it down, soaking it up with medium of your choice)

[Binzhoubum]

Now, I would I like to mention that I am not using the papers of my choice. I usually use a longer, much thinner paper such as OCB Slim, but at the moment I only have these shorter, lower quality papers called Mascottes.

As you can see in picture 3, I have put two of the shorter papers together perpendicularly so I can get a longer paper to roll with.

I will place the roach at the end of the joint on the right side and use it to guide my roll. As you can see in pictures 8 and 9, I am pinching the end of the paper where the roach is and kind of tucking it under and using it to guide the rest of the joint as it rolls up. If you do it right, it should basically roll itself; all you have to do is make sure it is not rolled too tight or too loose.

In pictures 10 and 11, you are able to see the finished product. I usually cut off the excess paper because I feel it is easier to light that way and allows for a much more even burn while smoking. One of the keys to even burning is also the way you distribute the smoking medium in the joint before you roll it. Look at picture 7 to see how I have distributed the medium to my specifications.

Picture 13 shows a joint I rolled using my preferred rolling papers: OCB Slim.

I hope that this has been helpful to some of you, and I would like to also remind you that practice makes perfect! :smokin:

[Binzhoubum]

Pictures 11, 12, and 13. :smokin:

I would also like to note that in picture 6 you can see how I have mixed the hashish, hempka, tobacco, and weed all together and worked it through by hand to make a uniform smoking mixture.

[OreO]

thats a nice jay man, i hope to someday be that good

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

pretty nice guide :thumbsup:

[Makaveli]

my favorite papers are King Size Smoking Brand DeLux, the ones in the black box. they're long and very thin. more ganja less paper to smoke

[Binzhoubum]

Thanks for the support all! :smokin:

I hope some people can learn from this. If you still can't figure it out, I will make a video. :)

[BlazeTheWeed]

why do you use 2 papers

[invoke]

Yeah a video would go very well with it.

Nice job!! :) :dance:

[tyrantowns]

Nice guide:) . I would like to see a video, just for perfection.

[SmokingPlatypus]

That's definately a nice spliff, man. I would totally love to toke off that. A video would just be icing on the cake, and you could totally post that stuff on youtube.com.

[Jaycub]

why do you use 2 papers

Original Poster: "As you can see in picture 3, I have put two of the shorter papers together perpendicularly so I can get a longer paper to roll with."

[pbzeppelin90]

thats a bueat. surpisingly easy to follow. i dont smoke many joints, but i do if im out somewhere, and dont feel like bringing a pipe. again, great job. if you posted a video on youtube or something make sure to post the link.

[shoi]

its good that there are all these guides stickied :D

[WeekenD TokeR]

Nup, still can't roll. I guess I just need shitloads of practice.

[Steve420]

Damn, I wish I had rolling skills like that. I usally just use a pipe, but rolling is useful if you want to sneak a spliff into a concert or something.

[cannabis campbell]

Hey you made it to a sticky nice job :D lol

[D1me]

how i learned- practice with bread crumbs or something like that. or rolling tobacco if you smoke tobacco.

[dewdrinker]

I can roll a smokeable joint, they just arnet all that pretty and i cant figure out how to roll em like in all those videos and guides i find. the part i get stuck at is after rolling the paper together to get the shape. after that everyone kinda tucks in the paper and rolls it up so easy with the thumbs. WTF? i cant for the life of me do that. i have tried so many times.

[Binzhoubum]

I can roll a smokeable joint, they just arnet all that pretty and i cant figure out how to roll em like in all those videos and guides i find. the part i get stuck at is after rolling the paper together to get the shape. after that everyone kinda tucks in the paper and rolls it up so easy with the thumbs. WTF? i cant for the life of me do that. i have tried so many times.

It's all about practice man. :smokin:

I used to roll horrible, pregnant joints, but after a little practice and trying out various methods I am able to roll a great joint everytime.

I am going to make a video and show exactly what my fingers are doing as soon as I get some time here in the next few days. :smokin:

Good smoking and good rolling! :stoned:

[MASS]

nice job man.. Well i dnt have any prob in rolling my joint like yours...
Me im fromm Mauritius an island in the indian ocean (The beaches of hawai is nofin compared to those over here)
And you are rite practice does make perfect..
Bt do you knw how to roll into a conical ???

[Binzhoubum]

nice job man.. Well i dnt have any prob in rolling my joint like yours...
Me im fromm Mauritius an island in the indian ocean (The beaches of hawai is nofin compared to those over here)
And you are rite practice does make perfect..
Bt do you knw how to roll into a conical ???

The shape of the joint is all about distribution of the smoking medium.

I can roll a fat cone if I want, but I prefer the style I use now.

I plan on rolling many different style and adding them to this thread.

I think maybe I will attempt the Cat Whisker's joint tonight and post some pics and instuctions. :smokin:

[stoneberg]

oh wow thats ingenius! i wonder if it would work if i get a thin stick of hash, and stick tobacco all over it and pack it tight into a straight joint? You just gave me inspiration for that im just not sure as how to make it burn slow and evenly to make the hash burn nicely.

[dreadedben]

Rolling really isnt hard at all. Obviously your gonna be shit at something when you start doing it and then you learn through trial and error. I think a lot of people are just too lazy or impatient to learn.

[Binzhoubum]

oh wow thats ingenius! i wonder if it would work if i get a thin stick of hash, and stick tobacco all over it and pack it tight into a straight joint? You just gave me inspiration for that im just not sure as how to make it burn slow and evenly to make the hash burn nicely.

I usually just press my hash out on the table into a coin sheet and then put a little fire to it for a couple seconds then mix it in throughly with the tobacco, trying to make sure that it is an even mixture and there aren't any oversize chunks. :smokin:

[Binzhoubum]

Rolling really isnt hard at all. Obviously your gonna be shit at something when you start doing it and then you learn through trial and error. I think a lot of people are just too lazy or impatient to learn.

Exactly! :thumbsup:

[pbzeppelin90]

once again, great job man. very informative.

[memoryburner]

thats a nice ass joint

[Binzhoubum]

Today I thought I would show you all how to roll the infamous Cat's Whisker joint. :smokin:

I would like to mention that today's joint will be rolled by my good mate "S" from the UK.

As you can tell from picture 1, these are the materials we will be using. "S" has taken two OCB's and cut one in half adding another half to the other creating an extra long paper.

You can see the medium spread out and ready to roll in picture 2. I would have used a brace to brace the joint while I was distributing the medium, but as you can see "S" has chosen to use a sort of half brace by placing one end of the joint on top of a box of papers.

Picture 3 is just a gratuitous kief shot. :D

Pictures 4 and 5 are showing the joint in various stages of rolling completion. Notice how the thumbs are used to sort of press the medium into place and then used as a guide for rolling upwards while tucking in the other side of the paper. :smokin:

[Binzhoubum]

:D

Please note how extra long the roach is in picture 7. This is done purposely to connect the other joint you will roll.

As you can see in picture 8 "S" has rolled another joint is attaching it to the joint rolled before via the extra long roach constructed before.

Pictures 9 and 10 are showing how the two joints have been connected and then reinforced using another smaller rolling paper. :smokin:

[Binzhoubum]

:D

Pictures 11 and 12 show "S" cutting a diamond shape into the roach connecting the two joints. This is, obvisouly, so you can smoke both of the joints at the same time.

Picture 13 shows the finished product and picture 14 shows "S" enjoying a bit of his hard work!

NOTE: When the two joints burn down and get too short, you can the roach material in half and VOILA! --- two more joints to share with friends and family! :smokin:

[Mr. TBAGU 420]

Nice man, the skill of that rolling is so incredible i just wish i could roll like that. One day i will.. i'm working on it now. But yeah, nice ass joints man! Keep up the good work and if you get a video out i can't wait to see it. :smokin:

[pbzeppelin90]

may i just say, i want to have your babies.

and when do you think you'll have that vid up?

[Binzhoubum]

I am working on the video guys. Have been a little busy and a little stoned lately, so I am waiting for someone to be able to record whilst I do my rolling thing. :stoned:

It will be up soon. :smokin:

Thanks for the interest and support!

[Buddahlova]

nice jay bro

[yoyoman1020]

Does anyone else roll a paper around a pencil, lick it and pull the pencil almost ouf of the empty joint, then just drop weed in there, then pull the pencil out and twist? I find it pretty easy that way.

[IanCurtisWishlist]

Does anyone else roll a paper around a pencil, lick it and pull the pencil almost ouf of the empty joint, then just drop weed in there, then pull the pencil out and twist? I find it pretty easy that way.

i used to do that but i find that i would waste way too much weed in a joint. best to just roll the paper around the weed.

[Don Don]

I manely stick to pipes but i half to admit that is one sexy jay. I'd hit that any day.Keep on rolling man.

[bright eyes]

those are some skillz my friend

[Binzhoubum]

Thanks for the feedback all! I wish I had the means to make a short video and upload it so I could show you all how easy it is to roll like that.

In a weeks time, I think anyone could do it. Well, maybe a couple weeks. But I don't have a camera or camcorder anymore and I wont have a computer soon either. :(

Keep smokin' :smokin:

Binz

[Big Haze]

Any1 have a blunt rolling tutorial?

[deftdrummer]

I want to smoke that right now!

[magicmushroom420]

damn that looks good ive read about alot of peaple using roches on here but i thought it was fucked up ive never acually seen sumone use one and didnt think i would ever use one but after seeing how good that looked im definatly gonna try that shit soon

and i want specifics on how to make that hempa stuff

[magicmushroom420]

and that cats wiskers joint is tight as hell u should put up some more different kinda of joint i got a lot of mids i gota smoke so i wanna start exparementing with crazy shit like that

[ashighasucanget]

you must live in the netherlands :D Nice man , that joint looks so tasty m8. Nobody rolls hash,tobacco and weed together in the states. Just strictly weed, they dont know whats up ,lol

[TommyJ]

In the first tutorial, you use hash and weed, why is that?

[cyberwitch]

Cool J man. Yep would be nice to see different photo, and video guides for different types of joint fashions. Thats a realy nice photo giude you took there, so bite the bullet and give us some more. Cheers.

"Hell", One may even try there own. Like you say "Practic makes perfect".

[cained]

these dudes taught me...

[mistyganjatree]

you really gonna smoke all that paper?

[jason straka]

why do you use 2 papers

Look forget these 2 papers thing. Grab a pen roll the paper around it. Glue it and as you get the pen off. you dump the pot there. Look when the bottle of wine is made the beer is not inside. Got the pic?

[jason straka]

Look. All u´ve got 2 do 2 roll it is the following. Grap the paper. Put it around a pencil. Glue the edges together. Now that the glue is dried. Gently dump the pot in it. As u do so make sure the pot is not to tight and neither is it to loose. Well, when a bottle of beer is made, the beer isn´t inside it yet. Try to imagine making the bottle of beer with the beer inside it. It´s insane.
That´s exactly what people have been trying to do.

[jason straka]

U can c in the ilustration that it doesn´t work. Don´t do it.

[Binzhoubum]

Look. All u´ve got 2 do 2 roll it is the following. Grap the paper. Put it around a pencil. Glue the edges together. Now that the glue is dried. Gently dump the pot in it. As u do so make sure the pot is not to tight and neither is it to loose. Well, when a bottle of beer is made, the beer isn´t inside it yet. Try to imagine making the bottle of beer with the beer inside it. It´s insane.
That´s exactly what people have been trying to do.

No offense man, but that's how I used to roll joints when I was about 14 or so because I didn't know how to roll.

Peace. :stoned:

[Binzhoubum]

In the first tutorial, you use hash and weed, why is that?

Smoke 'em if you got man! At least I think it's something like that. :stoned:

[penicylan]

i found the key 2 rolling a good J is to leave less weed in the center of the paper ... thumbs holding/rolling up 2ward middle. zip ... voila .... joint
hey Binz ... thanks 4 the tutorial ... gonna try that cat wisker one ;)

[Badfinger]

New here so be gentle.

in my years of toking I have come across 2 types of roller. those who don't care what it looks like and are happy toking on what looks like a tampon, and those who treat it as an artform.

I remember the first time i rolled a non tampon looking joint, was sooo happy then remembered that i was only practising and it had nothing in it. ah well.

just got back from the Dam where i remembered another way if you dont like the taste of the paper (until you try it you wont realise how bad the paper tastes).

its best to use the finest papers you can get. in uk Rizla silvers. the reason will become clear

step 1 - take your skin and fold it the reverse way than what it came out of the packet. you need to have the glue side on the underneath and at the bottom nearest you.

step 2 - fill it with goodies and whatever then roll it as normal so its the glue strip that is the first bit you fold over.

step 3 - (the reason for the fine papers) to stick it you need to lick the outside of the rolled up spliff. If you use fine paper you can clearly see where glue strip is, so lick there.

what you are left with (or should be) is a perfect rolled spliff with just a single roll of paper and a large flap of the remaining paper coming out the side. to get rid of it simply set it alight. Don't worry it wont set the spliff alight. As soon as the fire hits the the part you just licked it goes out.

then just a little tidying up and your away.

no more nasty paper taste. I read somewhere its called a Dutch joint but thats probably a load of crap.

As soon as my short term memory returns I think up of a few others

[Box215]

do you all usually mix tobacco and shit in with your joints? cause no one i know does it like that...straight weed

[SoUtHeRnStIcKy420]

after sein this shit, i feel like a puss for owning a JOB rolling machine. nice skills man, props to ya. pce:stoned:

[Iggmasta]

Nice guide, that hempka shit looks serious

[ethsfreshman]

roll from the inside out,
i cant explain it you kind of make the paper do shit

like after the weed is in, roll it to where the front is higher than the back, then the back is higher than the front until it is a cylinder, then roll the front down to where it is at the top of the weed, tuck it from the middle to the end (or it willbe pregnant) lick,stick,spark... not that hard... i havent had any problems...just practice. the first time i did it all the wed fell out and it sucked...just do it over and over and eventually the will look like little cigarettes...except they arent.

[Pius]

I've found that the biggest mistake newbies make when rolling is they don't take their time to see if the smoking medium is level before they try to tuck and roll. i usually put the mix into the paper, roll it once in my fingers to get it into shape, and then open it up, level it out, twist tuck and roll. rolls perfect joints everytime:D

[bzbuzzard]

do you all usually mix tobacco and shit in with your joints? cause no one i know does it like that...straight weed

yea, they do it like that in europe, its not too popular in the states.

[missJambi]

i taught myself and now i can do it while driving!
just get a 1/4 paper. fold the bottom up to the crease and open it. fill that fold in and use your index fingers to hold the flap down while using your thumbs to roll up. being firm, roll from the middle and work your way out. lick her up and roll up. i find i roll best when already stoned cause when you put too much thought into ya f up.

[missJambi]

do you all usually mix tobacco and shit in with your joints? cause no one i know does it like that...straight weed

my hubbo used to do that. what a frickin nerd.

[Binzhoubum]

i taught myself and now i can do it while driving!
just get a 1/4 paper. fold the bottom up to the crease and open it. fill that fold in and use your index fingers to hold the flap down while using your thumbs to roll up. being firm, roll from the middle and work your way out. lick her up and roll up. i find i roll best when already stoned cause when you put too much thought into ya f up.

Haha...you are wrong in your assumptions in my opinion. But to each his own. Aesthetics and Stonedness matter more to me, I guess. :stoned:

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

these dudes taught me...

this is prolly the funniest thing ive ever seen!

i showed my friend and she thought it was just awesome too

fkn nice man!

[exiled247]

i use a dollar bill when i roll. i don't know why i thought of it, but it's worked for me... just curve the bill and put the paper in it, lay some weed in it, then touch both sides of the bill together and then basically run your thumbs up the bill until the j is completely rolled... you never get a funky looking j and it smokes so good! anyone else ever done it or am i the only one?

[smokinbear]

i just rolled my first joint with this guide and it actually turned out decent! thanks a lot man. this was really really helpful

[Vwslike2gtHI]

i can roll just have a Quick question....Why roll tobacco and weed togeather??? and is it ok to just take the tobacco out of a Marlboro (other brand etc)???


I need to hang with more Lego guys:rasta:

[raz420]

Rolling tobacco with weed helps it burn more evenly and yeah u can just take the tobacco from a cigarette and use that in ur J or whatever.

[Marzguerilla]

I hate it when my friends mix weed and tobacco together its disgusting. Weed is what I smoke and is the only thing I'm always going to smoke :rastasmoke:

[lazy smoker7]

i have a harder time rolling js than i do rolling blunts.. its because i got that stupid rolling machine , its so much easier than rolling my own lol.

[harley3344]

well i tried to roll one today (first time smoking ) and it turned out to be a wimpy piece of shit that fell apart.....

[bobhasbitchtits]

Everyone talking about rolling the paper on a pen or pencil and then shoving marijuana into it is an idiot. Anyone talking about using rolling machines is an idiot. If you don't roll your spliffs by hand, you're dumb becuase rolling the jay is the best part of smoking. It is an artform. A perfectly rolled dutch joint is the most satisfying thing to roll. You check out your awesome work, show your friends, then get ripped. I wouldn't have it any other way. No rolling machines, no pens, no pencils, no shortcuts. :S4:

[SuperTorch]

Last night I rolled my first joint, I had to use 2 paper to make it even work.

Today I see this post and think hmmmm . I got a business card I can use as a tray. I cut a little roach out of and envelope and rolled around a ink pen shaft(not the pen but the shaft pulled out of the pen, or a Q-Tip works) to make my roach kind of pre-formed round with no notch's in it. I follow the instructions, Make sure you get the lip of the paper at the roach to roll inside with the roach so you can roll it on up. End result I with minimul effort I rolled on that looks virtually like the original posters J. Once youu have made the pinch he shows you with the roach you can even-out your herb by useing your left thumb and fingers to corress the yet finshed joint with the joint held so gravity keeps the herb from coming out of the open end and using your fingers it kind of finds it own ballace.

Everyone here has the tools he showing, follow what he says and boom you got a real serious J. Again this was my 2nd J ever.



http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7462/img0764fb1.jpg

[SuperTorch]

Notic I have a grinder, thats a big part, use sissors to really chop up your herbs. To further help out mine was like powder it was ground so well and Im sure that helped a ton.

[Chumpchange]

mmmhm great guide :rastasmoke: worked out great.
never done marijuana with tobacco, but i have done hash with it, that worked out great.

[indecision]

joints are easy, i destroy freakin blunts like whoa. someone tell me how to make a blunt cuz i cant do it in all the 8 years i been smokin. crazy huh?

[Tokinskater90]

i love smokin blunts but i can't fuckin rollit so i resort to bong hahehahehah

[Tokinskater90]

BONG BOING BONG BONG BONG BONG ll love blunts tho

[RyanTheCaveman]

I read that if you add a little bit of tobacco through your weed that it will make your joint burn slower and cleaner.
is this true?

[Dr.Hashman]

I just tried rolling a joint (I rolled a 3/4 full one) and I did a shitty job. I used to be good at rolling since I used to roll my sisters cigarettes for her when she was driving. Anyways, I usually use a vaporizer or my bong with icewater because I am keeping my lungs as clean as I can. So this joint really kicked my ass, not in the stoned way, but the burning hot smoke in my mouth. If I was a smoker I would have to carry around a small bong with me. Wouldn't that be funny if I went on a smoke break with some people and just whipped out a bong lol

[Dr.Hashman]

If you get a pen, roll so the sticky sealent will stick to it and just roll it around the pen as tightly as you can and lick it, seal it. Then get another pen tube that is the same size and get it so the papers are in the middle of the 2 tubes. Push the weed down the empty tube to fill the joint then when you are done, pull it off and twist both ends or if you are using a O shaped thing to keep the mouth end open, slide it in last and then twist the other side. It is nice if you are ever selling joints, or you are just rolling a whole bunch of cigarettes.

[kushy420]

If you get a pen, roll so the sticky sealent will stick to it and just roll it around the pen as tightly as you can and lick it, seal it. Then get another pen tube that is the same size and get it so the papers are in the middle of the 2 tubes. Push the weed down the empty tube to fill the joint then when you are done, pull it off and twist both ends or if you are using a O shaped thing to keep the mouth end open, slide it in last and then twist the other side. It is nice if you are ever selling joints, or you are just rolling a whole bunch of cigarettes.
thats how i was taught to do it

[Dr.Hashman]

It works if you have 2 of those white BIC pens, but sometimes if you try to improvise with 2 different size tubes, it can be pretty hard. I tried rolling with 2 different size tubes while stoned, didn't work out too well.

[ballllin]

If you get a pen, roll so the sticky sealent will stick to it and just roll it around the pen as tightly as you can and lick it, seal it. Then get another pen tube that is the same size and get it so the papers are in the middle of the 2 tubes. Push the weed down the empty tube to fill the joint then when you are done, pull it off and twist both ends or if you are using a O shaped thing to keep the mouth end open, slide it in last and then twist the other side. It is nice if you are ever selling joints, or you are just rolling a whole bunch of cigarettes.



wait, i don't really understand what's goin on there... why put the papers between the two pens?? what o shaped thing??

seems like an easy way to roll.. can someone gimme better directions to roll using a pen?

[rebgirl420]

Its sad that in my whole mlife ive never rolled a joint and to this day, no matter how hard I try I cant roll for shit...I guess its spoon pipes for Theresa

[rnichilo]

i roll a pretty nice j, but i'm gunna try your version tonight and see how it smokes, nice lookin joint bro :rastasmoke:

[rnichilo]

Its sad that in my whole mlife ive never rolled a joint and to this day, no matter how hard I try I cant roll for shit...I guess its spoon pipes for Theresa

You could always get a rolling machine, it does all the work for ya
heres a few:

Cigarette Accessories Rolling Machines (http://www.cigarleaf.com/products/accessories/cigarette/rolling_machines.htm)

[MirandaHart]

Thanks! I always thought it was just a fancy doodad to make your joint look better - never realized how easy it made the rolling. After reading your post I tried and what a diff! :)

[Binzhoubum]

Glad I could be of help to some of you newbs.

[casper1]

Everyone talking about rolling the paper on a pen or pencil and then shoving marijuana into it is an idiot. Anyone talking about using rolling machines is an idiot. If you don't roll your spliffs by hand, you're dumb becuase rolling the jay is the best part of smoking. It is an artform. A perfectly rolled dutch joint is the most satisfying thing to roll. You check out your awesome work, show your friends, then get ripped. I wouldn't have it any other way. No rolling machines, no pens, no pencils, no shortcuts. :S4:

fereal all the joy is in creating the jay not just trying to get it done so u can smoke. next time u roll just try to do it by hand not only is it fun and enjoyable but u can indulge once your done.

[Andrew Nguyen]

Nice joint.

[Gurtej15]

nice rolling man:thumbsup: :rastasmoke:

[BUZz UK]

Everyone talking about rolling the paper on a pen or pencil and then shoving marijuana into it is an idiot. Anyone talking about using rolling machines is an idiot. If you don't roll your spliffs by hand, you're dumb becuase rolling the jay is the best part of smoking. It is an artform. A perfectly rolled dutch joint is the most satisfying thing to roll. You check out your awesome work, show your friends, then get ripped. I wouldn't have it any other way. No rolling machines, no pens, no pencils, no shortcuts. :S4:

This post should be stickied in a thread of its own. No truer words have i heard spoken for a while! :thumbsup:

[SaPoXiXi]

Nice toturial man i really couldn't roll when i started smokin' but thanks to tutorials like these i started rolling better and now i'm good at it so thank you i'm sure it'll help some kid get high tonight ahaha !:p

[johnnyAKABob]

did this for another thread but i suppose it belongs here

how to stick 2 papers together

1)for this youll need 3 papers of your choice, for this i used 3 zigzag blue singles, because they happened to be closest to me
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2)lick the end of one of the gum strips and stick it to the back of the other paper
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3)fold the first paper in half so the gum strip is facing outwards

(wont let me upload this pic for some reason)

4)lick the gum strip on the paper folded in half and slot inbetween the other two papers. then flatten to transfer some of the gum onto the other two paper
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5)pull out the paper folded in half and press the other two together and your done
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[mfqr]

Awesome joints, and I must say... that is a lot of kief!

[.:Karma:. o.O]

hahaha all the fights about pencils and pens and whatnot...i perfer to use my hands and a paper but if u have ur own style go with it but just i wont lol...and yea ill put a video on how to roll a blunt for the guy who couldnt...nd i perfer to use zigzag orange they work good for me and i like how the smoke and burn slower...and just watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YGOlFSj-X8

[GraziLovesMary]

New here so be gentle.

in my years of toking I have come across 2 types of roller. those who don't care what it looks like and are happy toking on what looks like a tampon, and those who treat it as an artform.

I remember the first time i rolled a non tampon looking joint, was sooo happy then remembered that i was only practising and it had nothing in it. ah well.

just got back from the Dam where i remembered another way if you dont like the taste of the paper (until you try it you wont realise how bad the paper tastes).

its best to use the finest papers you can get. in uk Rizla silvers. the reason will become clear

step 1 - take your skin and fold it the reverse way than what it came out of the packet. you need to have the glue side on the underneath and at the bottom nearest you.

step 2 - fill it with goodies and whatever then roll it as normal so its the glue strip that is the first bit you fold over.

step 3 - (the reason for the fine papers) to stick it you need to lick the outside of the rolled up spliff. If you use fine paper you can clearly see where glue strip is, so lick there.

what you are left with (or should be) is a perfect rolled spliff with just a single roll of paper and a large flap of the remaining paper coming out the side. to get rid of it simply set it alight. Don't worry it wont set the spliff alight. As soon as the fire hits the the part you just licked it goes out.

then just a little tidying up and your away.

no more nasty paper taste. I read somewhere its called a Dutch joint but thats probably a load of crap.

As soon as my short term memory returns I think up of a few others

ahh the good ol Backrolled joint. I was looking through the posts to see if anybody had posted this one yet. The backroll is a more advanced roll, but is so worth it.

I love joints... I used to roll em up while drivin to work every day, all day while drivin my work truck, and rolled em up on the way home. Its the most economical way to smoke... it wastes and destroys the least amount of THC. And a roach is a wonderful little device for gettin the most of out bigger sized j's.

As far as the weed/tobacco and hashish/tobacco, thats how its done in the UK and over alot of Europe. Its just the lifestyle... such a majority of Europeans smoke cigarettes that it makes sense to them, especially since many times it seems to be hash and not weed. The tobacco helps it burn evenly, and makes sure it doesnt burn too fast as well. However, even though I smoke cigarettes too, I like to wait a while after getting high to smoke cigarettes. It is true that smoking a cig will increase your buzz, but seeing as how nicotine is a stimulant, it also ends up making your high go away quicker. I like to wait until Im starting to come down before I smoke a cig, it helps to maximize my high time.

Nice tutorial by the way, and nice avatar of a younger Thompson.

I havent made it past page 3, but have you done the tulip yet? A very good place for beginners to start trying the more advanced rolls.

[marijuana bird]

i can roll nice tight joints but they are no where near being as pretty as urs is but as long as the joint burns nice and slow for a good long time and i get nice and high i dont care how they look theres gonna be nuthin left 2 the joint except for a little roach when ur done smokin it right:jointsmile:

[CheeseOnToast]

New here so be gentle.

in my years of toking I have come across 2 types of roller. those who don't care what it looks like and are happy toking on what looks like a tampon, and those who treat it as an artform.

I remember the first time i rolled a non tampon looking joint, was sooo happy then remembered that i was only practising and it had nothing in it. ah well.

just got back from the Dam where i remembered another way if you dont like the taste of the paper (until you try it you wont realise how bad the paper tastes).

its best to use the finest papers you can get. in uk Rizla silvers. the reason will become clear

step 1 - take your skin and fold it the reverse way than what it came out of the packet. you need to have the glue side on the underneath and at the bottom nearest you.

step 2 - fill it with goodies and whatever then roll it as normal so its the glue strip that is the first bit you fold over.

step 3 - (the reason for the fine papers) to stick it you need to lick the outside of the rolled up spliff. If you use fine paper you can clearly see where glue strip is, so lick there.

what you are left with (or should be) is a perfect rolled spliff with just a single roll of paper and a large flap of the remaining paper coming out the side. to get rid of it simply set it alight. Don't worry it wont set the spliff alight. As soon as the fire hits the the part you just licked it goes out.

then just a little tidying up and your away.

no more nasty paper taste. I read somewhere its called a Dutch joint but thats probably a load of crap.

As soon as my short term memory returns I think up of a few others

A couple of additions to this;

if youve only got thicker papers, sometimes its easier to licky the gummy before you roll it in.

Also, it helps to apply a little more saliva when it comes to burning it, and then run the lighter along it to clear up the nasty edges

[BuddyX]

good methoddddd

[JD1stTimer]

I usually have a tiny bit of spill. But there's nowhere to put it. I just do it over a board or whatever, then sweep the leftovers back into my nug jar or whatever.

[CheeseOnToast]

Le Double L-Skin
Doesnt look pretty, i kinda just made it up as i went.
But anywho, you start off with a normal L plate, but roll it at an angle, and add a second one onto the L.
I cant feel my face.

[skiddy]

Nice j haha i cant come close...;.l

[CheeseOnToast]

Illmatic ;
try putting the roach on the right hand side ( i find it easiest ), and once youve got the edge over ( before you roll it up to the sticky ) you can tighten it up by moving the back up (index finger) and pushing the top side forward and down. This is what i do when im rolling a huge one and it helps a lot.

As for burning slowly, you have to pack it. What i normally to i grab it by the roach and tap it on a hard surface, then pinch the top ( youll have some slack paper ) and flap it about ( get your roaches fitted properly first, otherwise itl fall out ). Then grab something ( clipper flint works best for me ) and poke it down until the top layer looks even. Finally twist the top and BITE the end off. This should help it burn slower and more evenly.

[5016169]

I still can't do it. $2.25 for a rolling machine at your local supply shop is totally worth it.

example (http://www.headshop.com/product.asp?pID=409&cID=57)

[JD1stTimer]

lol, i thought it would be examples of a crappy handroll and a good-looking machine roll. Typical machinist propaganda! ;)

[GosTo]

when you put the bud into the paper
and when your holding it, fold the paper over
the bud then roll it around with your fingers
your goal with that is to pack the bud
together to form a neat cylinder. then what i do is tuck the
bottom paper in and just roll it up

good luck:thumbsup:

[JD1stTimer]

Good description, GosTo. And I really like your sig! +rep

[pass_the_dubbie]

Just thought i'd say how much of a great thread this is. Everybody should know how to do a basic roll, its a great thing to do and very rewarding. It wasnt that long ago that I was rolling loose joints that barely stuck together, didnt smoke well at all and just were terrible. But I picked up techniques along the way from friends, pictures and generally just rolling to whichever way worked best. I mean the feeling you get when you've sealed the joint and it looks perfect is great...then the feeling you get when your smoking it is even better! :thumbsup:

And you dont wanna end up at a party or something where theres no other way to smoke but joints. People will gladly roll for you but they will also gladly slip your bud into there pocket. Hasnt happened to me, now it never will.

Anyways...for those who arent the best rollers, keep trying...you'll get it right sooner than you think.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

I have a roller and i dont know how to use it.:wtf:
Can some one please explain how to use one??




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[silkyblue]

svengali taught me to roll

[Unknownfigure]

Today marks the year annaversary for the creation of this thread.


That wasn't a bad spliff on page 1. I'd chief on it, even though it has some yucky tobacco in it.

[Potcake]

The joint holder made by the business card is great. I used an index card ripped in half and it's just the perfect size for the papers I have.

I have found that filters make it a lot easier to roll the joint because you have something to start from. I also found that the hole in the center of the side of a spool of thread is about perfect for holding a joint straight up if you want to repack some stuff that may have fallen out or just to add a little more.:jointsmile:

[CheeseOnToast]

Oh, another tip, if your rolling w/o a table its easier to use an M-plate. Get some card and fold it into the shape of an M, then you can place your paper in there whilst you fill it. And any spillage can easily be packed down the top at the end. I always have one in my bag.

[JD1stTimer]

LOL, here's how to use a rolling machine in case the above post was serious. Okay, first you spread the rollers apart. Then you poke your fingers down in the cleft of the rolling cloth. Then you drop your load of tobacco in there and push any stray back into the cleft with your fingers. Next you push the rollers together and wrap your hands around the machine and pull down on the blanket with your thumbs until the tobacco rolls into a firm stick of tobacco. Then you slip the side of the skin without the sticky between the rollers with the sticky side towards your face. Now you just roll the blanket down with your thumbs, but this time stop before the sticky stuff goes down in the crack and gently lick the sticky strip with the tip of your tongue. You want just enough moisture to soften it up a tad but you don't want it dripping soggy wet. All you have left is to roll the blanket down again with your thumbs, spread the rollers apart, pick it up and put it in your mouth! OMG, that seemed so dirty when I typed it I heard a Secret Deodorant commercial with a siren in it and I thought I was getting arrested for lewdness LOL.

[JD1stTimer]

I want to try my hand at comedy. Does anyone think I should use this as a bit at the next Open Mic Night I can find? Think I could make it work?

[delta_9_fools]

I'm quite impressed with the quality of the original jay in this thread. I've become rather accustomed to using a straw as a mouth piece.

[snowblind]

first of all to the starte of this thread nice joint and nice philosophy. i too agree that joints are about rolling and aesthetics. it also seem to me a perfectly coned and prepared joint, burns more smothely and evenly, and can leave an impressive amount of ash in a block.

to the dude wanting to put thin hash strips, do this it is sick if you put a few in and pack it with rolling baccy you can blow the baccy ash away and keep the hash strips.

to all you practisng keep on your joints will improve.

to the nob end pen rollers. a packed joint burns the worst way imaginable. theres no consistency and they take so much longer to make.

to the dude who said well alcohol is poured into bottles. well yeah great. but cigars are rolled and you dont wrap a present by sticking the paper first.

you good sir are a tit

to the machine rollers. way to tight. best thing you can do is rip out the plastic and use your fingers as the rollers. just pinch the paper and medium together with the plastic and roll it back and forth, its a good way to learn

to all the shit hot rollers out there peace.

ill post up one of my beauts wheni get a chance

peace

snow

[JD1stTimer]

Is it me that's a tit? Lol, after reading my posts while of normal mind I realize it was compleeeetely whack. But I think if you follow it you will get a smoke from a roller, so it's not completely worthless. Hehehe.

[CheeseOnToast]

oh oh, heres another one.if your fingers are too dry, or wont grip the paper, lick them and then rub them on your jeans ( pants? )

[Binzhoubum]

Haha...glad to see you are all still learning from my tutorial! Keep it up! :rasta:

[Gen. Johnson Jameson]

I stick to my rolling machines, 8 bucks and its never failed me yet.

[CheeseOnToast]

And another one. its 6 rizzla stuck together, 2x3.
Would have been perfect if i had blueskins :(

[texas grass]

i havent burned a 6pj in along time
their the best and burn for a long time

[daffygremli]

whats the best kind of rolling paper for a beginner. I know they sell them at 7/11. Any place else.

[joetwitch]

man thats a crazy looking joints here and canada ours r way differnt looking< instead of licking the glue people should jus wet there bottom lip and pull the joint threw works way better< i never thought of usin a brace probly would have help me learn
:thumbsup:

[ChiefSmokesAlot]

man thats a crazy looking joints here and canada ours r way differnt looking< instead of licking the glue people should jus wet there bottom lip and pull the joint threw works way better< i never thought of usin a brace probly would have help me learn
:thumbsup:

Not on the EastCoast. :pimp: :jointsmile:

[Nightrafe]

Here are a few tutorials, I hope you enjoy them

Cannabis Cigar:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/cigar.htm)
[attachment=o162871]
Crossroads:
Three way heaven!
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/cross.htm)
[attachment=o162872]
Diamond:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/diamond.htm)
[attachment=o162873]
Flaming Backflip:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/flame.htm)
[attachment=o162874]
Tulip: (good one, the first time it is a bit difficult to make, but you will learn for the future. If it is really tight and good secured it's the best)
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/joint-tulip.htm)
[attachment=o162875]

[Nightrafe]

Knee Trembler:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/knee.htm)
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Magic Carpet:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/magic.htm)
[attachment=o162877]
Saturday Night Special:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/sat.htm)
[attachment=o162878]
Nose Cone:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/nose.htm)
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Secret Agent:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/secret.htm)
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[Nightrafe]

Windmill:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/windmill.htm)
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The Joker:
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/joke.htm)
[attachment=o162882]
The Roach (for the noobs: this is just the tip of the joint):
~> Tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/roach.htm)
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Maybe it's the best if you try it the first time with just tobacco, so you don't spill any of your cannabis

[bumclot]

Here are a few tutorials, I hope you enjoy them

Cannabis Cigar:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/cigar.htm)
[attachment=o162871]
The name for this one needs to be changed I think. If I hear cannabis cigar I think blunt, which isn't nearly as involved as that.

[Nightrafe]

yes, I understand, but I don't know what other name you can give to it. Cuz this one is of the leaf of the cigar and not with a blunt wrap.
Give a suggestion if you know something better :)

[WaZ]

I was dead set on smoking a joint last night, and my roommate took his roller home for the weekend, so I gave the hand roll a try. Bottom one was the first, you can see a blue cardboard roach peeking out because I used tobacco to test so didn't care (about inked paper, wasn't planning to smoke all the way through). Top one came next, and is herb. I think the first rolled one probably came out better, shape-wise (which is second in the pic)... They're about the length of a Bic. Smoked fine, too.

[absurdity...]

Ack I have so much trouble with joints. You'd think after so much time smoking, I'd be able to do it. BUT NO. I have an essential tremor and my hands barely work. But I feel like I absolutely HAVE to be able to roll a joint or else I won't be a real smoker. I've tried practicing with tobacco a lot. If I roll with my thumbs on the ends, the middle ends up being waaaayyy too loose. If I try to roll the whole thing with my fingers, it all falls out of the ends. I have rolled some of the crappiest joints I have ever seen. I thought maybe putting in the roach/filter dealie would help but really, I think I'm hopeless. I want to be able to roll a joint without a machine. this is ridiculous.

[erock0609]

Nice job!:thumbsup: Ive always liked teaching people to role. You should ask people to photograph a joint rolled after reading your tutorial:jointsmile:

[smokiemickpot]

whats goin on fuka..hows the grow season your way goin?

[g_dogg]

there's loadsa reasons why europeans put tobacco in with the weed, you onli need a small amount of THC to get you high, why roll a spliff with more weed than you need to?

The tobacco also makes the spliff last longer, i always put tobacco in with mine, and they usuly last about 5mins. I've smoked spliffs with just weed in them and they taste harsher and last no where near as long

i'm into slowboats at the moment, makes it last even longer

[g_dogg]

We make secret agents a different and extremely harder way lol,

we had quite a bit of weed left the other week and only had ciggies, no papers or anythin

we had 2 very carefuly push all the backy out of the ciggies then push the filter out with the bottom of a pencil, rolled a roach for it

mixed the weed with the backy then carefully poured the mixture back in

it was proper shit lol only lasted for about 1-2mins cos it wasnt tight enough

[Binzhoubum]

I promised a video a long time about this time last year, and I should follow through on my promise. Expect one soon....as soon as I am not too stoned to actually make one, which, may be a couple of weeks.

Keep smoking!

[bartmanuk]

Here are a few tutorials, I hope you enjoy them

Cannabis Cigar:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/cigar.htm)
[attachment=o162871]
Crossroads:
Three way heaven!
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/cross.htm)
[attachment=o162872]
Diamond:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/diamond.htm)
[attachment=o162873]
Flaming Backflip:
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/flame.htm)
[attachment=o162874]
Tulip: (good one, the first time it is a bit difficult to make, but you will learn for the future. If it is really tight and good secured it's the best)
~> tutorial <~ (http://members.lycos.nl/hostit/Wiet-Joints/joint-tulip.htm)
[attachment=o162875]

nice one nightrafe, good to see the flaming backflip on there, ive been rolling like this for about 15 years, yet not many people seem to know this method.

BM

[FreshNugz]

Well, i have a video camera, and although i'm sure there are others better at it, I roll a pretty nice joint.
Prob is if i made the vid i dunno how to get it onto my pc and available for you guys to watch
If someone knows how to, by all means let me know. I'll film that shit tonight :thumbsup:

[maxsuperdanks]

If people are rolling Secret agents, make sure to get that fuckin filter out of there.


Filters will make damn sure you don't get high.

[SunnyD]

What is it about the filters that ensure that you don't get high?

Do they trap the THC in the smoke?

[SunnyD]

Well, i have a video camera, and although i'm sure there are others better at it, I roll a pretty nice joint.
Prob is if i made the vid i dunno how to get it onto my pc and available for you guys to watch
If someone knows how to, by all means let me know. I'll film that shit tonight :thumbsup:

Hey, do you think you could film it, put it on youtube, then send us the link?

That should work shouldn't it?

[ExxxTACY]

new to this place.. thought i might roll a qu ick lil joint nothing special..http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/alpacino1980/Aj.jpg

[Unknownfigure]

ExxxTACY;


In that picture, does that happen to be that familiar Texas weed going around right now? I've seen the same shit just the other day.

[chadmorison]

I'm new here, but heres a flick of me twisting my first joint this morning.
blaze one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS-Gdg1z-_w

[TTR700]

Rolling really isnt hard at all. Obviously your gonna be shit at something when you start doing it and then you learn through trial and error. I think a lot of people are just too lazy or impatient to learn.

Not so im not bragging or anything! But i rolled my first jay and it was perfercto ...okay maybe i am bragging .I do give thanks to beginners luck;)

Do you weed smokers all add tobbaco to your joint.?

[Hypomaniac]

I used to love waking up with fresh tobaco a bit of pot papers and a bit of thin cardboard and a hot cup of tea with cream and sugar. And do the morning ritual. Very nicely done.

[codyggg]

I totally agree, when i first started rolling I was terrible. After many broken and loose joints I can now roll good tight joints.

[Medicaldelivery]

Shit, I never knew there was a whole science on rolling, but when you break it down like that... you did nice job. There real art of rolling comes in when you're rolling a joint and still driving, now that's skill, (and stupid) but skill.:jointsmile:

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[TeeRev]

Hey man thats a nice joint you rolled! : D
I've known someone who has been smoking for about 19 years and rolls a joint that makes you have a nerdgasm in your pants. It really looks like a cigarette. Practice makes perfect and she has had plenty.

[WeayLay]

Honestly, practice is perfect. Rolling to me is an Art, and I only use natural papers, such as RAWs or Elements. I use filters/roach, does anyone roll without one when there isn't much time to roll?

[GregGreen]

:thumbsup:

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[tomwright97]

that joint looks packed man. would love to spark it up. im a bong type of person rarely have spliffs but this kinda makes me want one :( :P :jointsmile:

[GetThisOrDie]

No offense to anyone but I would never taint my cannabis with tobbaco...

Anyways...

When I was in high school we had a friend who was much older than us (cant remember age) and when we would have a gathering, usually poker games, he would roll for us. He would be holding his cards or a beer in one hand and work the extra large papers in the other. Were great rolled one hand masterpieces...

Unfortunately he passed away in a car accident.

[kushkid]

rollin just takes practice, so keep rollin yall

[smokealot123]

Le Double L-Skin
Doesnt look pretty, i kinda just made it up as i went.
But anywho, you start off with a normal L plate, but roll it at an angle, and add a second one onto the L.
I cant feel my face.


thats the same joint i smoked 1 time.. someone rolled 2 of those with grapefruit kush weed and it got all 6 of us plasterd, like i dont even know another term for how baked i got.. same as you said but i could feel my whole body from head to toe tingling for a long time.. woke up baked !

oh and i can give a simple tip to noobie rollers, i even do this from time to time and it does make the joint burn longer than normal.. just crinkle up your paper into a small ball *do it backwards so you dont rip the paper with the stickie* what you are left with is a tiny ball, then un-crinkle the paper and what you should have is a wrinkled up paper, dont throw it away lol.. roll your weed or hash in it and it is like 10 times easier than trying to get the skin to roll out of the package and it will burn evenly and alot slower..

[cosmin100]

Well thats an interesting joint you made there.I have to practice more at rolling.Thanks for the tutorial.That helped me a lot.And greate thread to.How to Pass a Drug Test - 100% Guaranteed Drug Testing Solutions (http://www.onlinedetoxstore.com/)

[shangeet]

Yes, good tutorial. In school life one of my friend do it with extra care. He depends on some materials like - rolling papers, hash pipes, small plastic bags with remnants of dried marijuana leaves, remnant seeds in pockets, the "sweet" odor of marijuana smoke on clothes, bedroom, or car, lighters or matches, use of the word pot, or 420 (nicknames for marijuana) :rasta:

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[gypski]

If you have small fingers, buy a rolling machine. Its all in the thumbs and first two fingers. You know you can roll when you can roll one that looks like a Lucky Strike with a single leaf of Zig Zag white by hand!! :D

[reverandbanana]

I dont want to put a bummer on this but wow - all that technique into a joint!!

I've been smoking for years and i mean years, ive been smoking solid since i was 13, and skunk (weed) since i was about 16.

In my early days we didnt know what kingsize papers was so we used normal small papers (by sticking two together and using sticky from a third paper or 5 sheets to get a joint slightly bigger than a single kingsize) small sheeets for *rolling tobacco cigarettes.

So maybe this where i got my expertise from, since this i progressed to kingsize naturally and also use 6" rolling papers and double them up when im smoking with friends and sharing, and yes - thats right a foot long joint isnt that hard if you have patience.

Anyhow, when i first learnt, i never roached first, i rolled the joint and slotted a roach after it was done - thats technique... then later i decided adding the roach before rolling was time effective and also created a better smoke...

I use blue or silver Rizla, or OCB and sometimes Swan, ive used Rips and all sorts... my friend uses a rolling mat and his joints always come out like a pen... stuff that unless you know how...

Anyhow, just dont put as much in one side your most comfortable with tucking in first (the bit you toke on) and you should be fine, also - tap the joint on a hard surface when done to pack it down.

Ill make a vid when im smoking again (after my UA Test on the 31st) you will see how easy it is...

You dont need a cradle to hold it or anything and i dunno why you have 4 ingredients inside the joint, i have either pure bud or tobacco and bud... does the trick and is nice.

Sorry if thats bummered things but thats how it is in the UK..

Watch this space on 31st Jan when ive done my UA and pull out a fat night back of skunk and get rolling... wow i cant wait.

[reverandbanana]

If you have small fingers, buy a rolling machine. Its all in the thumbs and first two fingers. You know you can roll when you can roll one that looks like a Lucky Strike with a single leaf of Zig Zag white by hand!! :D

wow - how could i forget zig zag papers!!! grrr.

Zig Zag blue papers are the best IMHO...

Not too long now till my UA and then i can show you all the easiest and quickest way rolling a joint *spliff or J as we call it in the uk

[HoneyBluntz]

I've read a lot on here in this thread.. After about page 4 or so i decided to skip around a bunch lolz. Anyways, I may not be the rolling king or anything. And a lot of methods that have been mentioned are pretty good in my opinion. But I figure maybe I'll toss some of my methods on here, and if anything, provide another option when one wishes to roll. Currently, don't have any pics, but in future maybe il update with some to better help :) Please read all before you attempt to do. Its easier if you first have a understanding rather then just jumping into it. Also, may seem like a ton of steps, but it is actually one of the few things in life (with practice) that is easier done then said. lolz

For pinners aka (joints)
Materials:
Randy's (I love these papers, only cuz they have a wire inside of them, thus = roach! = definate point)
Scissors or grinder or fingers.

Step 1: First off we all know we need to break up our favorite herb. Grind/ chop/ cut/ pull etc apart.

Step 2: take your paper, if it already hasn't been folded in half, fold in half and crease it, with the glue side facing in.
s2.2 Unfold your paper, take the bottom (non glued end) and fold it so the bottom edge is even to the middle crease line, then crease the bottom.
s2.3 If you need another crease line, to help make it rounder cuz your new, then the crease line you just made, raise it so that it is even with the middle crease line, and at the bottom, where folded, crease it.
s2.4 If you take your paper and look at it from a side view, you should notice your making a letter "J" with a lip to some extent. You can make as many creases as you need, in the area of the curve for that letter "J" just be sure to leave yourself a lil lip.

Step 3: With the paper's glue facing you and at the highest position of the paper. Place your herb in your paper, use your pointer fingers on the inside of the papers where the herb is. And your thumbs on the outside of the paper. Thumb(s) should be on lip with your thumb nail facing you.
s3.2 Gently, begin to roll the paper back and forth so that you begin to slightly compress it.
s3.3 When you notice your herb is starting to stick together and form a very slight resemblance to a pinner (joint) place your pointer fingers on the back of the paper.
s3.4 Now your pointer fingers are on the back of the paper, thumbs with nails facing you are on the lip, what you do now is you pinch your pointer finger to your thumb with the back and front of the paper on each side with each hand. And the glue is still on the upper top portion of the paper facing you.
s3.5 Start out gentle, (this is very important, if fail here and its start over time possibly, unless ya like smoking 2 layers of paper cuz of a patch) and move the lip you made, up and down the opposing side of the paper as you add pressure to the motion. While doing this walk your thumbs from center out. This will help your pinner (joint) from looking prego. As it becomes more compact, use slightly more pressure in the up & down movements. Eventually, you will notice that your herb has comformed to a pinner (joint).
s3.6 Once compacted to satisfied compression, without spilling out any herb, walk the lip of the paper down with your thumbs, so that the edge of the lip itself is enough to blanket over the top of your herb, and touch the opposing back piece of the inside of the paper.
s3.7 Try to get the lip, that is against the inside wall of your paper, to be slightly tucked behind your herb if possible.
s3.8 The pinner should be resting on your middle fingers, thumbs are slightly pressing down and in with lip blanketing your herb, and your pointer fingers are pressing towards you and kinda upward. See that glue, lick it, lick it like ya never licked anything before in your life. Well, maybe not that wet, but dont be affraid to get it a bit more wet then just damp.


Step 4: Gently (so that not to disturb any creation), move your pointer fingers & thumbs to center of your pinner (joint). In one motion (even if you have to go uber slow) move your thumbs up & out from center and your pointer fingers down & out from center. Besure that while in the motion of this, you add a little more pressure with the movement of your thumbs & fingers. Continue the motion till the glue over laps itselfs and glues itself to your pinner (joint).
s4.2 You may notice that your glue is showing signs of a few places not sticking. Its ok, put a lil lick to ya finger and just gently dab the area's that may need some extra wetness to help the glue.
s4.3 If you notice your pinner (joint) is a little on the loose side, you could always take a dollar bill of some type, 1, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 what ever you choose. And basically what you would do.. (hmm thinkn, sorry not done this step in a decade or two) ... Hmm Sorry lolz.. Hard to explain with out pics.. Place currency in front of you, so you can read it, fold it from right to left once. Grab ya pinner, and gently dampen it with your tongue or finger or etc and place parrell to the crease, on the crease, on your paper currency. And with your thumbs and pointer fingers as before when rolling the pinner, add pressure and basically roll it up and down inside your paper currency till you aquire desired compactness. Be warned though. The tighter the roll, the harder the pinner (joint) is to toke from.

Step 5 If you wish to twist the ends, cool, if you wish to tuck the ends in, cool, if you want to make a filter for it, that would be something I can't explain without the use of pics. So.. Twist both ends with a lil wetness on ya fingers, wait, let completely dry. And once dry, on 1 end, cut just the twisted part off. :)

Sorry so long, sorry no pics, but this will work with enough practice. When trying this method, you can gaurentee to rip your first few attempts or so. Don't get disappointed. Everyone that has ever rolled a pinner, joint, blunt, etc has ripped some papers in they're life time. Practice makes perfect. I will at a later time update this better with pics to help everyone better understand. :) Enjoy & Happy smoking.

By the way, if you do use Randy's Wired Rolling Papers, start bending the wire away from the pinner / joint / etc when about 1/3 of your herb has been smoked. This helps to ash the smokable, and as more is smoked the wire becomes more handy as bending away, for use as a roach clip of sorts ;)

When I update this with pics in the future (undertermined time frame) I'll add another "how to" in regards to muh name ;) I'm not called "Honey Bluntz" for nothing lolz

[HoneyBluntz]

Since I can't seem to figure out how to edit my original post, or how to make reg pictures, everything is fancy linked, just clicky on stuff to see the pics.. And this post is a duplicate of my previous to some degree. So check it, there are a few differences.

I may not be the rolling king or anything. And a lot of methods that have been mentioned are pretty good in my opinion. But I figure maybe I'll toss some of my methods on here, and if anything, provide another option when one wishes to roll. Currently, don't have any pics, but in future maybe il update with some to better help :) Please read all before you attempt to do. Its easier if you first have a understanding rather then just jumping into it. Also, may seem like a ton of steps, but it is actually one of the few things in life (with practice) that is easier done then said. lolz

For pinners aka (joints)
Materials:
Randy's (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-1.jpg) (I love these papers, only cuz they have a wire inside of them, thus = roach! = definate point)
Scissors or grinder or fingers.

Step 1: First off we all know we need to break up our favorite herb. Grind/ chop/ cut/ pull etc apart.

Step 2: take your paper, if it already hasn't been folded in half, fold in half and crease it (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-4.jpg), with the glue side facing in.
s2.2 Unfold your paper, take the bottom (non glued end) and fold it so the bottom edge is even to the middle crease line, then crease the bottom.
s2.3 If you need another crease line, to help make it rounder cuz your new, then the crease line you just made, raise it so that it is even with the middle crease line, and at the bottom, where folded, crease it.
s2.4 If you take your paper and look at it from a side view, you should notice your making a letter "J" with a lip to some extent (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-6.jpg). You can make as many creases as you need, in the area of the curve for that letter "J" just be sure to leave yourself a lil lip.

Step 3: With the paper's glue facing you and at the highest position of the paper. Place your herb (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-7.jpg) in your paper, use your pointer fingers on the backside of the papers. And your thumbs on the front of the paper. Thumb(s) should be on lip with your thumb nail facing you (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-8.jpg).
s3.2 Gently, begin to roll the paper back (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-9.jpg)and forth (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-10.jpg) so that you begin to slightly compress it.
s3.3 When you notice your herb is starting to stick together and form a very slight resemblance to a pinner (joint) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-11.jpg).
s3.4 Start out gentle, (this is very important, if fail here and its start over time possibly, unless ya like smoking 2 layers of paper cuz of a patch) and move the lip you made, up and down the opposing side of the paper as you add pressure to the motion. While doing this walk your thumbs from center out. This will help your pinner (joint) from looking prego. As it becomes more compact, use slightly more pressure in the up & down movements. Eventually, you will notice that your herb has comformed to a pinner (joint).
s3.5 Once compacted to satisfied compression, without spilling out any herb, walk the lip of the paper down with your thumbs (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-12.jpg), so that the edge of the lip itself is enough to blanket over the top of your herb, and touch the opposing back piece of the inside of the paper.
s3.6 Try to get the lip, that is against the inside wall of your paper, to be slightly tucked behind your herb if possible.
s3.7 The pinner should be resting on your middle fingers, thumbs are slightly pressing down and in with lip blanketing your herb, and your pointer fingers are pressing towards you and kinda upward. See that glue, lick it, lick it like ya never licked anything before in your life (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-13.jpg). Well, maybe not that wet, but dont be affraid to get it a bit more wet then just damp.


Step 4: Gently (so that not to disturb any creation), move your pointer fingers & thumbs to center of your pinner (joint). In one motion (even if you have to go uber slow) move your thumbs up & out from center and your pointer fingers down & out from center. Besure that while in the motion of this, you add a little more pressure with the movement of your thumbs & fingers. Continue the motion till the glue over laps itselfs and glues itself to your pinner (joint) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-14.jpg). And wa-la you could be done. For me, this is done. Cept just need to twist the ends and cut one of the ends off. But if ......
s4.2 You may notice that your glue is showing signs of a few places not sticking. Its ok, put a lil lick to ya finger and just gently dab the area's that may need some extra wetness to help the glue.
s4.3 If you notice your pinner (joint) is a little on the loose side, you could always take a dollar bill of some type, 1, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 what ever you choose. And basically what you would do.. Is fold your paper currency in half with out creasing it, then gently, slightly dampen your pinner/joint, place it in center of your paper currency. And then just roll your thumbs & fingers up & down while not allowing the paper currency to wrap around your pinner/jonit. Basically when your thumbs are down, your fingers higher, when your fingers are down, your thumbs are higher. Ie: Position in comparison.

Step 5 If you wish to twist the ends, cool, if you wish to tuck the ends in, cool, if you want to make a filter for it, then the next steps are for you.
s5.2 Take a thin thicknessed paper/cardboard, index cards are perfect for this. And cut a skinny long couple of strips (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-1.jpg). Anywhere between 1/8 " - 1/4 is sufficient. Though if you go with the 1/4 you will not be able to fold the glue over onto the filter. With the 1/8" you can. Its all a matter of your personal preference.
s5.3 Roll it by making a very very tiny overlap, then just roll it (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-2.jpg) like you would a roll of duct tape.
s5.4 If your notice, when tight, that the circumfrince is greatly smaller then the opening of your pinner/joint. You may need a 2nd piece included into (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-3.jpg) the roll of your filter..
s5.5 While leaving a slight little lip/ over hang piece from initial roll of filter, pinch the second piece in so that it is slightly into the roll already like this (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-4.jpg).
s5.6 Fully created and ready to be included into your pinner/joint should resemeble something like this (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-5.jpg).
s5.7 Be extremely careful in this next step. You must hold your filter tightly rolled in your figers while trying to place it into your pinner/joint. It may need to be slightly pushed in, or tucked in. Successfull implitation of the filter will look like this. You notice the filter has slightly become unrolled, this is ok, this is perfect (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-6.jpg).
s5.8 Cut a glue strip off your most unfavorite papers (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-7.jpg).
s5.9 Slightly dampen the edge of the end (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-8.jpg) of the pinner/joint where the filter is located. Attach the glue strip you cut from ya unfavorite paper so that at least 75 % of the glue strip width wise, is on the pinner/joint (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-9.jpg). Then just wrap the glue strip around.
s5.10 You may notice that the glue strip's width exceeded the end of the pinner/joint. This is ok/can be perfect. Cuz now you want to slightly fold that extra 25% of glue strip down onto the filter itself (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-10.jpg).
s5.11 Once completely dried, should be ready and set to go. After lots of practice you should be able to complete from this point up to the very first step in less then 4min. (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-F-11.jpg)

By the way, if you do use Randy's Wired Rolling Papers, start bending the wire away from the pinner / joint / etc when about 1/3 of your herb has been smoked. This helps to ash the smokable, and as more is smoked the wire becomes more handy as bending away, for use as a roach clip of sorts ;)

Do you love honey blunts? Ever wonder how to make one with out a great deal of loss in your paper? Ever have the problem with your blunt paper crumbling, falling apart, basically not being as easy as you thought it would be? Well.. Watch for my next how to guide on why I am called HoneyBluntz.. I will show you a easy and fast way to make the ever popular Honey Bluntz (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/Todd77/HB%20How%20Tos/HB-B.jpg) a reality for you :) Till then, hope you enjoy my pinner how to guide. :)

[vapelife]

I have not rolled one in so long I have forgotten how lol.

[pipesdaddy]

Nice to see that it can be done in such a manner. really getting enriched.

[themrzach]

hahaha all the fights about pencils and pens and whatnot...i perfer to use my hands and a paper but if u have ur own style go with it but just i wont lol...and yea ill put a video on how to roll a blunt for the guy who couldnt...nd i perfer to use zigzag orange they work good for me and i like how the smoke and burn slower...and just watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YGOlFSj-X8

video is awesome.
thanks.