"Reliable"

[Marlboroman]

Someone told me recently that Alex Jones is not a "reliable" person to gain information from.

Allow me to give my perspective of the word "reliable".

I am going to look at it as I would any other word in the enlish dictionary. But from a view that its a single word LIE, with a prefix and suffix attached.

re·li·a·ble-
adj.

Capable of being relied on; dependable: a reliable assistant; a reliable car.
Yielding the same or compatible results in different clinical experiments or statistical trials.

Thats what the dictionary has to say.

But lets take a look at the word its self and see how it is constructed.

re-
pref.

Again; anew: rebreathing.
Backward; back: recurvation

It is typical to drop the E on a word when you add a suffix.

lie-
n.

A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

able or -ible-
suff.

Susceptible, capable, or worthy of a specified action: debatable.
Inclined or given to a specified state or action: changeable.


Looking at this word from a different perspective certainly changes its definition. It goes from describeing a positive trait, to describeing a negative trait.

Being reliable typically brings to ones mind thoughts of the plumber that always shows up on time, or an employee that is never late. This is the positive version, because after all, who doesnt like their toilet fixed on time?

However keeping within the english launguage and its rules, I see that this word is actually a negative one, meaning that someone or something can be manipulated over and over.

Such as buying a reliable car means that it will start everyday, and will not break down.

When you are driveing a car are you not manipulating the controls?

Altho when speaking of a car, reliable is good, but when speaking of people, I take unreliable any day.

ma·nip·u·late-

tr.v. ma·nip·u·lat·ed, ma·nip·u·lat·ing, ma·nip·u·lates

To move, arrange, operate, or control by the hands or by mechanical means, especially in a skillful manner: She manipulated the lights to get just the effect she wanted.

To influence or manage shrewdly or deviously: He manipulated public opinion in his favor.

To tamper with or falsify for personal gain: tried to manipulate stock prices.
Medicine. To handle and move in an examination or for therapeutic purposes: manipulate a joint; manipulate the position of a fetus during delivery.



So based on the english language and its rules, I would agree that Alex Jones is not a reliable person. Nor am I.

I think some powers in this world are relying on the "reliable".

Peace.

[Captain Hanks]

ramble?

[Bong30]

who are you talking to?


Alex Jones starts with....(just like most of you) hate bush hate america............. now let look at some plane video.... he has an agenda......

Agenda
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Look up agenda in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Agenda may refer to:

Agenda (meeting), points to be discussed. It sometimes refers to the list of topics itself.
Political agenda, the set of goals of an ideological group. Also used as above, the topics under discussion by a government.
Lotus Agenda, a piece of Personal Information Manager software.
The Agenda, a current affairs television program aired by TVOntario.
Agenda Poetry, a literary periodical in the United Kingdom.
AGENDA (band) - a Montréal, Canada based indie rock band.



I put in bold for you......................

[Marlboroman]

ramble?

Not at all, read it, it makes sense.

And it just might change your perspective as to how people commonly use words that have lost their true meanings.

Peace.

[Marlboroman]

who are you talking to?


Alex Jones starts with....(just like most of you) hate bush hate america............. now let look at some plane video.... he has an agenda......

Agenda
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Look up agenda in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Agenda may refer to:

Agenda (meeting), points to be discussed. It sometimes refers to the list of topics itself.
Political agenda, the set of goals of an ideological group. Also used as above, the topics under discussion by a government.
Lotus Agenda, a piece of Personal Information Manager software.
The Agenda, a current affairs television program aired by TVOntario.
Agenda Poetry, a literary periodical in the United Kingdom.
AGENDA (band) - a Montréal, Canada based indie rock band.



I put in bold for you......................


This isnt about an agenda, this is about a word, that word being reliable, and how its been used to discredit not only Alex Jones, but many other sources of information as well.

People use words today that have lost their true meanings, and words that have an implied meaning rather than and actual meaning.

I didnt mention hateing anyone in the thread starter, I dont recall ever mentioning that I hate anyone, so please dont use a personal word such as "you" when describeing a group of people you disagree with.

Peace.

[Krogith]

he tells people to make copys of his stuff and give it to people for FREE Most of his Videos are FREE on the Net.

[Breukelen advocaat]

OK, for the sake of accuracy, let's say that Alex Jones is an "unreliable" source, which is basically saying the same thing as the other description of "not reliable".

unreliable
adj 1: liable to be erroneous or misleading; "an undependable
generalization" [syn: undependable]
2: not to be trusted [syn: undependable]
3: not worthy of reliance or trust; "in the early 1950s
computers were large and expensive and unreliable"; "an
undependable assistant" [syn: undependable] [ant: reliable,
reliable]
4: dangerously unstable and unpredictable; "treacherous winding
roads"; "an unreliable trestle" [syn: treacherous]
5: lacking a sense of responsibility

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unreliable

Sounds like AG and his ilk to me.

[Hamlet]

Sorry, there's just no talking in circles around the fact that Alex Jones is a deluded, mentally ill individual hyping rubbish.

Conspiracies are a lot of fun for sure. I see people's eyes light up with the same kick that Christians get from spewing Revelations silliness. But it's just not a sane way to look at things if you want to understand how the World really works.

Bush and Cheney are sleezeballs for sure. But they're just too stupid, lazy and incompetent to pull off a really good conspiracy. They can't even attack a small country in the middle east with the most powerful army in the world without fucking it all up. No one's as slick as you guys give them credit for.

[thcbongman]

Sorry, there's just no talking in circles around the fact that Alex Jones is a deluded, mentally ill individual hyping rubbish.

Conspiracies are a lot of fun for sure. I see people's eyes light up with the same kick that Christians get from spewing Revelations silliness. But it's just not a sane way to look at things if you want to understand how the World really works.

Bush and Cheney are sleezeballs for sure. But they're just too stupid, lazy and incompetent to pull off a really good conspiracy. They can't even attack a small country in the middle east with the most powerful army in the world without fucking it all up. No one's as slick as you guys give them credit for.

They're obviously slick enough to avoid accountability for the actions they undertaken.

I'm not saying at all they commited a conspiracy. I'm saying these guys are not anywhere close to stupid. Just because Bush is a poor communicator doesn't mean he's a mastermind in the head. They itched for the war in Iraq, they wanted it, they didn't care if it fucked up. In the short-term war is great for overall economic health. You have Americans making bombs, companies developing technologies used in war, security, reconstruction contracts. You can make money off destruction of others. It sounds sick, but it's true.

I don't doubt Bush and Cheney, who spend a sizeable portion of their time with political fundraisers, had a plan on how to get American companies to profit off the war, rather than an actual war plan. Calling them stupid and lazy just shows how easily you can be deceived.

With that said, Alex Jones is whoring his name for recognition.

[Oneironaut]

Umm, did you bother to check out the etymology of "reliable"? It doesn't come from the word "lie", but from the word "rely".

"Lie" comes from Old English lēogan, which meant pretty much the same thing it means today.

"Rely" comes from Latin religāre, which is the prefix re attached to the verb ligāre, which means "to bind" or "to link together".

The fact that a Germanic word and a Latin word happen to sound similar in Modern English does not mean that their meanings have anything to do with each other. "Lie" and "rely" have always been, and still are, very different words with very different meanings. "Reliable" has about as much to do with lies as the word "belief" has to do with bees and leaves.

[birdgirl73]

Hiya, Marlboro,
This one caught my interest because of my affinity for words--and for etymologies. But it also caught my eye because I think in order to make your point about reliability/unreliability, you've contrived an inaccurate coupling of root verbal components for that particular word. Perhaps you were fully aware that you were creating a linguistic connection out of unrelated roots, but if you weren't, here's some some distinctly separate history of the two words you tied together in your syllabic analysis of the word "reliable."

Reliable, meaning "able to be relied upon," comes from the word "rely," which has no connnection, in part or in whole, to the word "lie" (other than similar pronunciation of that one syllable). "Rely" comes to us most recently from Middle English, where relien meant "to gather or rally." In Old English, the word was "relier," which meant "to bind back." The original root is the Latin infinitive "religare," which means "to tie back." It's probably not necessary to etymologize "able," but if you want to, you can look up habilis < hablēre (Latin).

"Lie" comes from the Old English word "lēoghan," which meant the same thing it does today: to lie. In Middle English, that word became "lien." Its etymology and meaning never crossed paths with "rely," "reliable" or its root components at any time in linguistic history. Until today, that is!

English has always been very good to me. So I try to return that favor when called upon to do so. . . .

[birdgirl73]

Oh heck, Oneironaut. You beat me to it!!! I just saw your post. Sorry, Marlboro, but you've got two linguistics majors reading in on you . . . .

[Bong30]

I hated college english............passed it though

dont say anything BG .....LOL

i.e. like we could tell.......

do you know how to use a dictonary?

you spell like my ass.............

do you know how to make a sentance?

i just lined um up for you guys and gals............ LOL

[graymatter]

Well, we all have our strengths and weaknesses... does anyone find it more difficult to hold back a fart these days?

[birdgirl73]

I would like to meet your college English teacher, Bong! (And I didn't say a word. . . . )

[Bong30]

I would like to meet your college English teacher, Bong! (And I didn't say a word. . . . )

She was HOT......................LOL

[Marlboroman]

OK, I'm wrong, the root of the words are not similiar.

I dont like to admit when im wrong, but if I was afraid to admit it, I would never think creatively.

I still dont like the use of the word, as I dont like to see myself as someone who is reliable to be manipulated, such as a car.

But that is determined upon the context the word is used I think.

Peace.