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420mory
08-15-2006, 09:59 AM
I would like to dedicate a topic to this subject, since this is also something for 'open minded' people.
So what is this about? if you dont know the new world order, you could say this is about "conspiracy theories". The belief that governments terrorize the people to get more power, such as the WTC on 9/11-2001.
I guess/hope some people here are already "awake" or at least not happy with the official theory about 9/11 and other 'terrorist attacks'. It would be nice to discuss some of the subjects with other people :D
for people who arent familiar with any of the 'theories'/evidence: do some research! There are loads of documentaries available about the subject, you need to educate yourself and look at the facts. A good start would be to search for "911" on google video and watch some of them..
People who are already aware of something being "wrong", i recommend www.undergroundsatellite.net - this site has 60,000 files, 180gb in total, available for free download.
another great movie is the latest one from alex jones: terrorstorm.
downloadable here:
http://www.powerbeat.org/samples/alex_jones_-_terrorstorm.wmv
cant deny the facts..

edit: maybe this should be in the philosophy forum 'where we get a little deeper into things'

420mory
08-15-2006, 10:00 AM
nobody has anything to say about the folks that own the world?
quite suprising..
i dare you watching the terrorstorm movie..

Binzhoubum
08-15-2006, 10:51 AM
I'll watch it and get back to you. ;) :smokin:

jamstigator
08-15-2006, 11:14 AM
I don't really buy all these conspiracy theories. I do find it entertaining to study conspiracism though, why people believe the conspiracists, that sort of thing. Alex Jones is pretty entertaining sometimes. He misleads people, attacks people when they ask difficult questions (like, where's the evidence), and it's fun to watch him squirm when confronting someone rational. I wouldn't recommend anyone BUY anything from him though. He's just a profiteer who takes advantage of the gullible; there are a lot better ways to spend one's money than enhancing the lifestyle of someone like that.

SpiritLevel
08-15-2006, 01:14 PM
Alex Jones Predicted 9/11! (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=77857)

That is an interesting thread. Probably because I posted there. I like reading my own shyt.

New World Order? Globalisation? How can it not be true is my question? These days I need evidence that can show me otherwise.

Freemason; Illuminati; Order of Death; Skull & Bones; Scroll & Key; Helena Petrovna Blavatsky; 1776; Dajal; HAARP; Cell Phones; Precession of the equinox; Mayan; Aztec; Temple of Amenti/Hall of Records; Reptilian Agenda; Mars; Space Exploration; Europa; Currency (current-sea); River Bank; Shape-Shifters; Magic; Terror; ECHELON; Intel; IBM; Hitler; The World's Worst Attrocities; Henry Ford; Afrika; AIDS; Small Pox; Global 2000 Report; Earth Population Reduction; MK-Ultra; The Holographic Universe; Bermuda Triangle; Dark Side of the Moon; Disclosure Project; Culture; Livity; Niabingi; DNA; Clones; Genetics; Chaos; Mark of the Beast; Dinosaurs; Sacred Texts; Messiah; Matrix; Disobedience; End-Times; wtf.. so many words and names associated with the new world order and globalism there ain't enough space...


So when we are all knowledged up, what next? Just sit and watch the Earths Pupulation get consumed by Evil until its my turn? What is the Plan? I'm ready to shoot up this mother fucker, even though I know it won't help.

psychocat
08-15-2006, 01:32 PM
Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe.
Where power is to be gained you will find corruption, the elite want to stay at the top and are not beyond smoothing the way with all manner of means.
Bildeberg is well documented yet the most secretive meeting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

Both Bush and Kerry are "Bonesmen"

http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/skullbones.html

A list of members of S&B

http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/Groups/Order_of_Skull/part_10.htm

It may be BS in parts but then so is what half of your goverment tells you, no smoke without fire just keeps coming into my mind.
Money talks and how many politicians have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar ?

spliffonshik
08-15-2006, 02:58 PM
I've seen that documentary movie about 9/11 on google.
Was really shocked and even tired of quantity of facts of that tragic date. It is totally unbelievable, but it is politics - very dirty game. Strongly recommend to watch that movie.

Marlboroman
08-15-2006, 03:06 PM
I've seen that documentary movie about 9/11 on google.
Was really shocked and even tired of quantity of facts of that tragic date. It is totally unbelievable, but it is politics - very dirty game. Strongly recommend to watch that movie.

If you watch HBO, there is a show called Deadwood.

This last season has been about this very subject, useing power to scare the masses for more power.

Granted its from the view of those useing the power, and I'd like HBO to add some scenes to include the general population and the effects of whats going on has on them.

Basically its globalization on a smaller scale, but same tactics.

Peace.

Mark Bryan
08-15-2006, 03:47 PM
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm www.newswatchmagazine.org http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/home.htm You'll want to click the boxes on the left of the page to see the pictures! http://www.infowars.com/cashless_society.htm#microchips The Mark Of the Beast can be beaten with this, http://www.libertydollar.org/information/pdfs/color-brochure.pdf Printed of course on hemp paper along with a newly revived Hemp For Victory program, http://hempmuseum.org usin' hemp energy, www.hemp4fuel.com creatin' the best hemp technology available http://www.ecofibre.com.au/otherprods.html Thus we could fulfill the Prophecy of Revelation;12:14,Ezekiel;34:29 and Isaiah;59:19 (KJV) I'll let you look up the verses provided and let you see for yourselves how these prophecies CAN be fulfilled with the revived Hemp For Victory program! Any questions concernin' interpretation? JUST ASK!

Mark Bryan
08-15-2006, 04:01 PM
http://www.hort.perdue.edu/newcrop/ncnuo2/v5-284.html

Mark Bryan
08-15-2006, 05:13 PM
Sorry the link won't work!:mad:

Great Spirit
08-15-2006, 05:42 PM
I totally believe in some conspiracy theories, and most others I really don't believe in. I take a more spiritual side in this matter. I believe in the Illuminati and their use of black magic. I believe that the FreeMasons have connections to the Illuminati, since Freemasonry is part occultic and part based on Judeao-Christian Islamic beliefs. I also believe that we are all known as "God", and that this physical reality is a shadow of another reality, and then other realities too.

On this one street alone in my town, there are 2 Masonic buildings. It's awesome though because the one building looks like Solomon's Temple kind of, and one is actually designed as a Muslim mosque but with European design. Fucken beautiful man. :)

But anyway, yes a terrorist attack is predicted before the end of October. Hmm. If it occurs, then my worst fears have been realized. I can only say Godspeed to you, as it will be a world of concentration camps, but then when 2012 comes, it'll be a big gathering of some sort as I have been told. But the Earth will go into the higher dimensions...into the 4th, 5th, and 6th dimensions I think. Believe what you want about that. It's just what i heard but I believe they have truth in them.

pisshead
08-15-2006, 05:50 PM
there are those of us here that post about it...

but we've got to give up our sovereignty and our rights and our borders so we will be prosperous and free...the world dictatorship will keep us safe from their manufactured enemies, as long as we submit to endless taxation, cameras and biometric scanners monitoring us, RFID national id cards and all the rest of the freedom they have planned for us.

Mark Bryan
08-15-2006, 05:51 PM
I believe the world will be enlightened when the cannabis/psychedelic culture prevails and the 1,000 years of peace is ushered in.

Great Spirit
08-15-2006, 06:04 PM
I believe the world will be enlightened when the cannabis/psychedelic culture prevails and the 1,000 years of peace is ushered in.It's time that we go to a semi-industrialized hemp lifestyle. we have the tools, but we also have the plant to do it...hemp! i mean we will have our fuel from hemp, not petroleum. i do hope we can go into a more spiritual direction too. the establishment knows all too well the powers of cannabis and they make it illegal so we can't use it.

pwn3dy0
08-15-2006, 09:08 PM
Alex Jones predicted 9/11 to the que in july 2001. He said the goverment would stage a fake attack and blame it on Osama Bin Laden. He also said the world trade center would be the target.

WalkaWalka
08-15-2006, 10:02 PM
I beleave the main reason the goverment does not like hemp is that it allows people to think for them selves.

And something else people always tell me volcoms razor( the simpelest explanation is usually correct) well its pretty simple the goverment just doesn't give a fuck about you or me.

SpiritLevel
08-16-2006, 10:48 AM
CHECK THIS ONE! Hold on to your BTClient!!
http://www.chomskytorrents.org/?Action=ChangePage&Page=0

eg420ne
08-16-2006, 03:19 PM
Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe.
Where power is to be gained you will find corruption, the elite want to stay at the top and are not beyond smoothing the way with all manner of means.
Bildeberg is well documented yet the most secretive meeting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

Both Bush and Kerry are "Bonesmen"

http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/skullbones.html

A list of members of S&B

http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/Groups/Order_of_Skull/part_10.htm

It may be BS in parts but then so is what half of your goverment tells you, no smoke without fire just keeps coming into my mind.
Money talks and how many politicians have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar ?
Hey dude im stealing this quote
"Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe"

Krogith
08-16-2006, 03:31 PM
In that case Bong Doesn't Breathe......

Mark Bryan
08-16-2006, 06:03 PM
It's time that we go to a semi-industrialized hemp lifestyle. we have the tools, but we also have the plant to do it...hemp! i mean we will have our fuel from hemp, not petroleum. i do hope we can go into a more spiritual direction too. the establishment knows all too well the powers of cannabis and they make it illegal so we can't use it.

Now THIS is somethin' we see eye to eye on! :dance: I ain't sure what the Q'uran says,but Ezekiel;34:29 says:And I will raise up for them,1) A PLANT OF RENOWN, (Hemp)2) They shall no longer be consumed with hunger in the land,(food) NEITHER BEAR THE SHAME (PROHIBITION)OF THE HEATHEN(Law Enforcement)ANY MORE!

weirdo79
08-17-2006, 04:05 AM
Occam's Razor (also Ockham's Razor). (nothing on you Walka not being a dick here It's just one of my faves,wikipedia has an interesting blurb on it)

Psst Spiritlevel you forgot the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians and "Crowley's minions". And, hell well we're here Hagbard Celine (Immanentize the Eschaton "one day at a time").

There are no prophets with vague predictions seeing the future.....Only humans taking whatever coincidence(or reading the freaking paper and evidence...you know the public files...its just most people stick to mainstream news so its suddenly "wow that guy knew beforehand"...Nope everyone who was educated on the subject knew too...) comes into play and jamming whatever personal belief they have into the "mold" and screaming "see they/we/I predicted it".

Quoting fiction to support cannabis legalization is counter productive. We already have science on our side , fictional nonsense only harms our point.

And , lest I be accused of being a right wing Psycho supporter (har har bud ;) ). If you check my posts I dont believe either sides official story on any of it. Of course rich people screw over the poor to stay rich. So would 90% of us put in the same situation. It's human nature, we hoard. The problem everyone looks at is, its almost always a zero sum market, which means those rich guys in order to get richer have to actually TAKE money from their rich friends....Not just us "poh folks".

IF , (big IF) the worst possible scenario was true and the illuminati truly ruled over earth! (shakes fist for emphasis) you dont think there would be constant in-fighting? Once again human nature....


Ohhh and stop applying this magical label to cannabis. I love it , you love it. But stick to the facts. Not superstitous unprovable(All those people claiming astral travel miracously can't repeat it under controlled conditions much like 90% of superstition and the occult, and Shirley Maclaine isnt proof..har) assertions that guillible people just soak up (or kids eager to belong to the "yeah thats cool club").

Cannabis does not make you a free thinker I subject my evidence as Torog...and several others that are FAR right wing and completely closed off from reality. (including many on the far left....cough cough GS....)

At least no one here quotes Icke.....(that I've noticed)....

Mark Bryan
08-17-2006, 05:13 PM
There are no prophets with vague predictions seeing the future.....Only humans taking whatever coincidence(or reading the freaking paper and evidence...you know the public files...its just most people stick to mainstream news so its suddenly "wow that guy knew beforehand"...Nope everyone who was educated on the subject knew too...) comes into play and jamming whatever personal belief they have into the "mold" and screaming "see they/we/I predicted it".

Quoting fiction to support cannabis legalization is counter productive. We already have science on our side , fictional nonsense only harms our point.

So you don't believe in prophecy? Perhaps you haven't studied enough! Lemme give you an example! http://www.potts.net.au/tree/misc/adam.html God in psalms 89 told King David his throne would NEVER end and in Ezekiel chapter 37 concernin' the two sticks and in chapter 21 verses 25-27 shows the three overturns from Jerusalem to Ireland,Scotland and England! Look at the genealogical chart if you don't believe me! The bible is 100% ACCURATE!

Mark Bryan
08-17-2006, 05:43 PM
http://www.portraitpainters.com/furr/queen_in.jpg www.google.com http://www.kingdavid.org/kingd1.html http://www.ucgstp.org/lit/booklets/usbp/chapter5.html You'll be interested in this last link!

psychocat
08-17-2006, 07:30 PM
I believe that religion and rumours of black magic are simply remnants of how people were fooled a couple of hundred years ago, people then believed in demons and devils so it was just another tool in the mindwashing armoury of the "educated elite" to keep the working masses in line,,,,, and FEAR !

By pretending to promote racial harmony they create racial divides like a wolf in sheeps clothing , divide the people make them fearfull of each other and watch em fight as you reap the benefits.

As for prophets , thats hokum too imo .

Mark Bryan
08-18-2006, 12:40 AM
Prophets? You'll have to do better than that! I just proved how accurate prophecy is with the throne of David which STILL exists through Queen Elizabeth II!

Hamlet
08-18-2006, 12:54 AM
Maybe one day we'll be the architects of our destiny when we stop posing as its prophets.

Mark Bryan
08-18-2006, 04:00 PM
I agree there are MANY false prophets,but if a person(s) makes a prediction/prophecy and it DOES come to pass,then he/she can be considered a prophet as I demonstrated with the Throne of David which still exists!

jamstigator
08-18-2006, 04:02 PM
So what you're saying is...

Step 1: Make a prediction
Step 2: Prediction comes true
Step 3: Prophet!

Krogith
08-18-2006, 04:27 PM
The last days are here stop bickering look around. Follow Jesus and learn about his Father Jehovah. Learn about how Jehovah will bring an end to Satan's System of things and because Jesus died for us redeming Adams sin We can all enjoy everlasting life under Jehovah gods rule on a Perfect Earth in Peace. Let the rulers of the world Distroy them selves and serve god being a peacefull kind person, TEACHING PEOPLE ABOUT JEHOVAH.

psychocat
08-18-2006, 05:36 PM
God save us all from the bible bashers of all persuasions.

Mark Bryan
08-18-2006, 05:43 PM
So what you're saying is...

Step 1: Make a prediction
Step 2: Prediction comes true
Step 3: Prophet!
Actually you have to be CHOSEN to be a prophet,you don't just become one. Even then,those chosen usually don't want to be,like Moses who said things like:Who am I Lord that you should send me? I am of slow speech,how would I get them to listen to me? If you are not chosen,then you CAN'T be a prophet. How do you know? You hear a voice (either audible or in your head/a dream) and you'll see visions of things you know haven't happened yet and you'll be told to warn people of what you saw or write it down. If a total stranger comes along and calls your name and tells you your life story and details things you've never told or shown to anyone,you would automatically percieve that person to be a prophet like the woman at the well who was shocked when Jesus told her she had 5 husbands!

Krogith
08-18-2006, 07:03 PM
There are no REAL prophets today, All are false prophets.

Mark Bryan
08-19-2006, 03:17 PM
EXACTLY! We're STILL waitin' for the two witnesses to show up who WILL be prophets. On an INDIVIDUAL scale your guess as to who they'll be once they recieve power from God for 3 1/2 years is as good as mine! On a NATIONAL scale,you can say that the two witnesses could be England/Ephraim and America/Manasseh the only two nations to be declared Christian nations.:rasta:

Krogith
08-19-2006, 04:33 PM
there are no 2 whitnesses where you find that in the bible? were waiting for God Appointed day of armagedon, where Jehovah speaks from the heavens and Jesus returns in sprit form and Distroys all who oppose his Father. And under Jesus's rule we will come into perfection over 1000 years and at that point will be give back to his father Jehovah as a perfect world of peace. Everlasting life on this earth will come finaly as orginaly created. Befor Satan caused adam and eve to sin

SpiritLevel
08-19-2006, 08:28 PM
...Psst Spiritlevel you forgot the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians and "Crowley's minions". And, hell well we're here Hagbard Celine (Immanentize the Eschaton "one day at a time")...

I didn't forget, I said there were too many words to be associated with the subject to list. :thumbsup:

weirdo79
08-21-2006, 01:45 AM
Touche spirit Touche, And mark you collossal nutjob...Your vague assumptions are not supported. Your forgetting all the other prophecies....(plus the changing of certain lineages completely in your aforementioned kingdoms...Oh but dont let facts get in the way).

Anyone who believes the bible is 100% accurate is 100% idiot...The endtimes have gone and passed more than 10 times now...Care to support any of your doomsday scenario's with actual information or just wild assumptions backed by no facts again? Oh wait the bible didnt mean 2000! it meant the year 3000 so keep sending in money folks....

www.evilbible.com study up ignoramus Oops I meant Nostradamus....

manshowboy487
08-21-2006, 02:01 AM
Yes I am afraid I am with you on this subject. I have been exposed to enough information leading me to believe that 9/11 was orchestrated by our government. and it scares me. This war on terror is bullshit. The world is fucked up because of our government and their evil intentions. our bases in Iraq are permanent.. I have many thoughts on this subject. People need to wake up, only then will change be possible, but we may be too late. If i had read my own words a year ago i would think that I have gone crazy. But really people do not trust me, research it yourself, know what is really going on. A good place to start is watching "9/11: loose change" 2nd edition, video google it and watch it, it only takes 1hr 20min of your life, and it is very well made documentary that you owe yourself to watch. Prisonplanet.net is another with alex jones, he has lots of good documentaries to watch, i suggest your start out with "Terror Storm." There are also plenty of books written on where this world is going and the people that are leading it down that dark path. I suggest you pick up either "The New Pearl Harbor" or "9/11 commission: omissions and distortions" essential reads. it's time to wake up america

manshowboy487
08-21-2006, 02:14 AM
I believe the world will be enlightened when the cannabis/psychedelic culture prevails and the 1,000 years of peace is ushered in.


sorry i'm afraid that will never happen, the sixties came and went man.

PigSnout
08-21-2006, 11:22 AM
So what you're saying is...

Step 1: Make a prediction
Step 2: Prediction comes true
Step 3: Prophet!

Thanks for making things clear jamstigator. :D
The 49ers will suck this year. Hey everybody I'm the Prophet Pigsnout.


.........wonder if I can use this to get chicks?

jamstigator
08-21-2006, 11:29 AM
Religion is a prophetable business!

Mark Bryan
08-21-2006, 02:41 PM
there are no 2 whitnesses where you find that in the bible?
http://www.wcg.org/lit/bible/Rev/2witnesses.htm :confused: HUH? I THOUGHT YOU KNEW! Oh well,here's a link for ya!

Mark Bryan
08-21-2006, 02:43 PM
sorry i'm afraid that will never happen, the sixties came and went man.
So you don't consider the many uses of hemp as evidence of the comin' 1,000 years of peace?

Mark Bryan
08-21-2006, 03:00 PM
And mark you collossal nutjob...Your vague assumptions are not supported. O.K. let's see proof of this,not allegations!
You're forgetting all the other prophecies. Which ones? You have to list'em you know,not just look for somethin' to attack just to create contraversy!
(Plus the changing of certain lineages completely in your aforementioned kingdoms...Oh but dont let facts get in the way).
http://www.potts.net.au/tree/misc/adam.html You mean this lineage? Got any links to back your theory?

Anyone who believes the bible is 100% accurate is 100% idiot...The endtimes have gone and passed more than 10 times now...Care to support any of your doomsday scenario's with actual information or just wild assumptions backed by no facts again? Oh wait the bible didnt mean 2000! it meant the year 3000 so keep sending in money folks Talk about ignorance! You're in the BIG LEAGUE here so act like it and start backin' it up! These fictional CHEAPSHOTS don't work with me!


www.evilbible.com study up ignoramus Oops I meant Nostradamus.... This link couldn't float on CONCRETE! BORIN'!
.......

psychocat
08-21-2006, 10:31 PM
People believe what they want to believe , I choose not to believe in something that so obviously was written by maniacs ( evilbible.com ) and I really don't buy prophets of any kind.
Nostradamus was more reliable and I still think it's a question of interpretation of what are at best vagueries.

Mark Bryan
08-22-2006, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE]People believe what they want to believe , I choose not to believe in something that so obviously was written by maniacs ( evilbible.com ) I TOTALLY AGREE HERE! :thumbsup:
And I really don't buy prophets of any kind. Given the deliberate misinterpretations of scripture in the past,(inquisition/dark ages etc.) I can understand your opinion,but that doesn't invalidate the scriptures if interpreted correctly. Example,the hebrew word for cannabis is Kineboisin which means aromatic cane,not calamus as you read in Exodus;30:23. Calamus had no aromatic value at all! THAT'S a mistranslation or misinterpretation! Here's a REAL interpretation! In Revelation;1:7 it says when Christ returns,EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM! and in ;11:9,it says the whole world will SEE the 2 witnesses bein' killed and will celebrate their deaths! It wasn't that long ago that people wondered how the hell that was possible for the whole world to witness these two events which have yet to happen. NOW WE KNOW! Through T.V. and the INTERNET! Now THAT'S a CORRECT interpretation of a prophecy made in 96 A.D.! (C.E.)

Nostradamus was more reliable and I still think it's a question of interpretation of what are at best vagueries. http://www.equalrights4all.org/books/books.html#nostradamus :D I believe you know Chris Conrad who wrote a book on Nostradamus. Here's a POTHEAD who believes in prophecy!:thumbsup:

Krogith
08-22-2006, 04:19 PM
the #2 means truth or solid. just as the beast that kills them is representing a world goverment the 2 witnesses are a truth baised religion that as the bible says spits fire from there mouth, this is there word that this religion is teaching.

jamstigator
08-22-2006, 05:35 PM
Some of you guys have read or watched too much 'Left Behind'.

Mark Bryan
08-22-2006, 05:46 PM
I've never seen it.

weirdo79
08-23-2006, 03:43 AM
The burden is on you to provide proof , try taking it off a .edu or maybe try a history book...Your forgetting some of those monarchies went down hard during certain periods.

Also you dismiss my link (which has all the pertinent info your saying I didnt provide even though the onus is on you to prove such,which means providing a proper cite) without so much as a comment other than "boorrring" I know facts are boring thats why they're facts....HAR

Oh as to your response to psychocat , I'm sure that YOU mark are able to decipher the scripture properly and not the thousands before actually educated on the subject....(and yes there is a lot of twisting its because there is alot of contradictory passages in the aforementioned "bibles")....

Your "proof" is a site owned and operated by private individuals who have a familial interest(not to mention monetary) in linking themselves to the "first families" despite the massive historical evidence available at ANY school or ANY library....also its based on writings in the bible and alot of assumptions as to the actual geneology of aforementioned people. Using the bible as proof of whats in the bible is pure idiocy. Big boys indeed....Also other people who believe in prophecy do not validate your assumptions. This is yet another in a long line of fallacies from you....

your derision of my ad hominem's is ironic considering your engaging in them yourself (and nothing wrong with that as long as you provide an arguement...)

I stand by my ignoramus conclusion. Next you'll be linking to Phelps site as proof god hates gays....

May I suggest for future use, you make use of this site....www.fallacyfiles.org

whydoyoucare
08-23-2006, 04:09 AM
interesting, and quite possible if Bush wasnt so stupid. :thumbsup:

Mark Bryan
08-23-2006, 03:06 PM
The burden is on you to provide proof , try taking it off a .edu or maybe try a history book...Your forgetting some of those monarchies went down hard during certain periods. O.K. ask a specific question and let's see where this goes. As for the monarchies are concerned,MANY of them were corrupt to begin with,yet the gospel in it's purest form despite the many imperfections still endures,can you say that of many of the ancient pagan religions and their empires?


Also you dismiss my link (which has all the pertinent info your saying I didnt provide even though the onus is on you to prove such,which means providing a proper cite) without so much as a comment other than "boorrring" I know facts are boring thats why they're facts....HAR This is just pure sarcasm and doesn't need to be addressed!:rolleyes:


Oh as to your response to psychocat , I'm sure that YOU mark are able to decipher the scripture properly and not the thousands before actually educated on the subject I DID take a 3 month course in bible prophecy study in the summer of 2000 in Pulaski,Va. and I am a certified student of prophecy.I DON'T however claim to be a prophet,just a person who stidies the prophets and interprets the prophecies.
....(and yes there is a lot of twisting its because there is alot of contradictory passages in the aforementioned "bibles").... Jack herer points this out in the Emperor Wears No Clothes. http://www.jackherer.com/chapter10.html


Your "proof" is a site owned and operated by private individuals who have a familial interest(not to mention monetary) in linking themselves to the "first families" despite the massive historical evidence available at ANY school or ANY library....also its based on writings in the bible and alot of assumptions as to the actual geneology of aforementioned people. Using the bible as proof of whats in the bible is pure idiocy. Big boys indeed....Also other people who believe in prophecy do not validate your assumptions. This is yet another in a long line of fallacies from you.... fallacies? O.K. http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/israsxn.html Follow the migrations of the northern tribes after their deportation. http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/migration12.html


your derision of my ad hominem's is ironic considering your engaging in them yourself (and nothing wrong with that as long as you provide an arguement...) You referrin' to my comments to Psychocat? I stand by that.


I stand by my ignoramus conclusion. Next you'll be linking to Phelps site as proof god hates gays.... Remember Sodom and Gommorah? Where are they? AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DEAD SEA!


May I suggest for future use, you make use of this site....www.fallacyfiles.org I''ll pass.

weirdo79
08-25-2006, 07:04 PM
Sodom and Gomorrah are actually abandoned trade cites (sorry I'll believe archeologists over your unfounded assumptions Try some NON biblical books sometime. You know written by those pesky people who actually study history instead of just assuming....)

The rest of your breakdown just shows you dont know your subject at all. I suggest going to school , you've obviously dropped out around grade 3....

Fundies are funny , your as bad as that idiot who writes in capitals and drive by posts. You refuse to even acknowledge the other side then stick your fingers in your ears going lalalallalala. Try an education it works wonders for people.

By the gods you dont even know what a fallacy is....and refuse to even look up any .edu's says volumes about your arguement. Try taking your fingers out of your ears. Or as jesus said (paraphrasing) "get the log out of your own eye"....You refuse to look at counter evidence(that you didnt even provide against) after ive soundly debunked yours...sounds like someones in denial....It's ok your faith is unfounded we all know this....

Your as bad as that GS lunatic claiming Bush is the devil/antichrist etc..(and believe me I hate Bush). Religious lunatics have never been able to debate and you most certainly havent addressed anything except with the most obtuse "lalalallalala" and arguing from ignorance stance. Try reality it can be fun ya know... I love how you dismiss my ad hominem glazed factual rebuttal as sarcasm so that you dont have to look at the information contained within. Classic denial man. You exhibit so many psychological dependency issues its HILARIOUS.

Using jack herer is just pointless stupidity he says nothing to support your point and in fact supports mine? so you agree? Or are you just so confused you dont know what your saying anymore....You say the bible is 100% true however you acknowledge inherent contradictions which means you realize its not 100% so your basically a liar as well as a cretin....Lovely. Get some help nutjob....(read above at the aforementioned log comment...(and yes im aware its actually timber but I thought a big word like that might confuse you...)

Dizz-Oh!
08-25-2006, 10:57 PM
WTC 7.

Dizz-Oh!
08-25-2006, 11:03 PM
"IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO DOUBT THAT THE DOCTRINE OF THE ILLUMINATI AND THE PRINCIPLES OF JACOBINISM HAD NOT SPREAD IN THE UNITED STATES. ON THE CONTRARY, NO ONE IS MORE SATISFIED OF THIS FACT THAN I AM."

GEORGE WASHINGTON

Freemason, and first president of the United States

Bong30
08-25-2006, 11:08 PM
George... is the shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlwPJLza9Ks

I would like to be a Freemason...............

what is your Point? Dizz?

Let me guess? You hate george bush, you hate america.........


you are 15 and you were 9 when bush was elected, and now you have been brain washed, by left wing teachers and now you hate all of america.....

sound right?

Ozarks
08-25-2006, 11:45 PM
I would like to be a Freemason



2B1ASK1

Fengzi
08-26-2006, 12:01 AM
God save us all from the bible bashers of all persuasions.

Amen brother


What God Wants,
God Gets,
God Help Us All (Roger Waters)

Dizz-Oh!
08-26-2006, 07:15 AM
Bong30, so funny of u to come after me. Im not even Muslim.

I belong to the Sons and Daughters of Liberty, and I am 27 years old.

And I do not have a point. Those are for assholes.

And the inbred Thelemites who confused Will with Intent.

Mark Bryan
08-30-2006, 03:55 PM
Sodom and Gomorrah are actually abandoned trade cites (sorry I'll believe archeologists over your unfounded assumptions Try some NON biblical books sometime. You know written by those pesky people who actually study history instead of just assuming....) You haven't PONTED OUT much less proven ANY THING unfounded! Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by asteroids! WHY ELSE are they more than 1,200 feet BELOW sea level? You lose.


The rest of your breakdown just shows you dont know your subject at all. I suggest going to school , you've obviously dropped out around grade 3.... UH where's the proof here?


Fundies are funny , your as bad as that idiot who writes in capitals and drive by posts. You refuse to even acknowledge the other side then stick your fingers in your ears going lalalallalala. Try an education it works wonders for people. Oh so you're sayin' you DON'T DO THAT? http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/ignore.gif You haven't provided ANYTHING but HYPOTHESES!


By the gods you dont even know what a fallacy is....and refuse to even look up any .edu's says volumes about your arguement. Try taking your fingers out of your ears. Or as jesus said (paraphrasing) "get the log out of your own eye"....You refuse to look at counter evidence(that you didnt even provide against) after ive soundly debunked yours...sounds like someones in denial....It's ok your faith is unfounded we all know this.... By THE GODS? Acnowledgin' more than one god is idolatry! You don't even know what ignorance is!


Your as bad as that GS lunatic claiming Bush is the devil/antichrist etc..(and believe me I hate Bush). Religious lunatics have never been able to debate and you most certainly havent addressed anything except with the most obtuse "lalalallalala" and arguing from ignorance stance. Try reality it can be fun ya know... I love how you dismiss my ad hominem glazed factual rebuttal as sarcasm so that you dont have to look at the information contained within. Classic denial man. You exhibit so many psychological dependency issues its HILARIOUS. How many times you gonna keep strikin' out! Evil bible offers NO PROOF just contradictions like you!
Using jack herer is just pointless stupidity he says nothing to support your point and in fact supports mine? so you agree? Or are you just so confused you dont know what your saying anymore....You say the bible is 100% true however you acknowledge inherent contradictions which means you realize its not 100% so your basically a liar as well as a cretin....Lovely. Get some help nutjob....(read above at the aforementioned log comment...(and yes im aware its actually timber but I thought a big word like that might confuse you...) I notice you're careful to point out contradictions to support your DEAD belief,but you WILL NOT mention or consider the MISTRANSLATIONS Jack pointed out which I KNOW you ignored! It's the PRIESTS who messed up and mistranslated the scriptures LONG before I was born and explains why you're so determined to support a WHACKED OUT site like Evil Bible! When I said the Bible's 100% accurate from Genesis to Revelation,I mean the actual translation from original hebrew to English,not what the priests want you to hear! Mark 6 Wierdo 0

psychocat
08-30-2006, 10:33 PM
Mark 0 brain cells

Assuming the land was at or slightly above sea level prior to destruction then it is impossible. Asteroids would not cause a mass of land to sink by 1200 ft. FACT!
You either need to believe or choose to believe, either way you are not doing a lot for your cause by making such illogical statements.

If an object was to indent the earth by 400 meters it would be so massive and dense that there would be a crater miles wide, a series of smaller hits could never achieve it.
The only logical explanation for such a difference would be an earthquake.

Mark Bryan
08-31-2006, 06:43 PM
Mark 0 brain cells REALLY?! Why am I still typin?!


Assuming the land was at or slightly above sea level prior to destruction then it is impossible. Asteroids would not cause a mass of land to sink by 1200 ft. FACT!
You either need to believe or choose to believe, either way you are not doing a lot for your cause by making such illogical statements.

If an object was to indent the earth by 400 meters it would be so massive and dense that there would be a crater miles wide, a series of smaller hits could never achieve it.
The only logical explanation for such a difference would be an earthquake. WRONG!!!!! The Bible says the Lord RAINED DOWN from heaven FIRE and BRIMSTONE! You're sayin' it's an EARTHQUAKE?! THAT would've occured AFTER the impact from a northern trajectory,just look at the Great Rift Valley where it gradually slides downward! An earthquake does not rain down fire from the sky UNLESS it's a volcano! The meteor shower obviously hit a faultline causin' the land to collapse downward as a result of an earthquake CAUSED by an asteroid impact,so you ACTUALLY have to consider BOTH to be a factor,NOT an earthquake alone! The Chesapeake Bay,Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean are all craters too,the Pacific one created the moon after Rahab's explosion between Mars and Jupiter! Most if not all of our meteor showers come from Rahab's remnants!

psychocat
09-01-2006, 02:13 PM
REALLY?! Why am I still typin?!

WRONG!!!!! The Bible says the Lord RAINED DOWN from heaven FIRE and BRIMSTONE! You're sayin' it's an EARTHQUAKE?! THAT would've occured AFTER the impact from a northern trajectory,just look at the Great Rift Valley where it gradually slides downward! An earthquake does not rain down fire from the sky UNLESS it's a volcano! The meteor shower obviously hit a faultline causin' the land to collapse downward as a result of an earthquake CAUSED by an asteroid impact,so you ACTUALLY have to consider BOTH to be a factor,NOT an earthquake alone! The Chesapeake Bay,Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean are all craters too,the Pacific one created the moon after Rahab's explosion between Mars and Jupiter! Most if not all of our meteor showers come from Rahab's remnants!

You really need to get your head out of that piece of fiction you're so obsessed with.

Mark Bryan
09-01-2006, 03:05 PM
You really need to get your head out of that piece of fiction you're so obsessed with.
FICTION?! Let's see you whip out the data to prove your THEORY! An earthquake ALONE CANNOT rain down fire from the sky! Show me the proof of that! I ALSO see no evidence of volcanic activity either,so MY conclusion would leave ME to believe it was a METEOR SHOWER! C'MON suck it up and show me the data that proves me wrong and I'm in this fantasyland YOU'RE obviously in!