Ed Ward MD
10-12-2004, 12:13 PM
3rd Party Presidential Candidate Jail Debate: Round 2
Jail Debate II is here. Difficulties in finding the correct prison facilities are making the debate itinerary hard to finalize. So many prisons. So few 3rd party Presidential Candidates (PCs). By publication time, a hearing will have been conducted in the case of the Arizona Libertarian Party v. the Arizona State University and the Commission on Presidential Debates. This attempt was to shut down the Bush - Kerry debate, scheduled for Wednesday or allow access to a 3rd party to participate.
"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government." --- James Madison
One has to wonder what good it will do for the judge to dispense a decree, unless of course it is for this government and against the Constitution. It appears as though only favorable decisions for this government are carried forward. Court documents were simply not served previously. Why will this time be any different? What makes this judicial paper any different than the previous one that was simply left to sit. This government is refusing to serve itself. The judge seems to be impotent in power or authority unless this government does it's Constitutional Duty. One would have to think this judge could do something regarding those in this government under his jurisdiction that need to be held accountable. Or the judge needs to be judged.
[The legislature] are bound to leave this particular right untouched and sacred, [or] we must say, that they may control freedom of the press, may abolish the trial by jury, may swallow the Executive and the Judiciary Powers of the State; nay that they may despoil us of our very right of suffrage ... James Madison
The National Press is Officially AWOL.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe. Thomas Jefferson
There is no longer a national press after 2 Presidential Candidates are arrested for Constitutional Rights violations without any coverage to the general public and will henceforth be called the 'corporate press'. Don't worry, the corporate press will have clear orders from their corporations and government to stay clear of the courthouse and jail debate areas. Rumor has it, there was a Restraining Order granted the corporational press, because they were 'afraid' and fearful of harm by PC Badnarik's and PC Cobb's platforms of government. If either, PC Badnarik or PC Cobb get within 500 yards of any corporational press member, their home, work, places they might frequent (the butts of the democrat and republocrat political parties), any family members of the corporational press or their corporational bosses, there will be a 'Rounding up of the usual suspects...' and the debate will be held prior to the standard 'on the day of the fascist parities debate'. If any national press do happen to wander by, the debate will be stopped and moved to a prison at least 500 yards away. This will cause serious prison transportation problems for both PC's as there are many in the national press, their habitats (the butts of the democrat and republocrat political parties), etc., but, this government is determined to make sure they, corporations and government power, are safe from corporation fear and government fear. Hopefully, one of the PCs will get a chance to put a Restraining Order on this government. Only time will tell.
Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. JAMES MADISON
One has to admire these two fine patriots. Volunteering for oppression by this government for the sake of their beliefs and their constituents beliefs. These are not kissing cousins. They are rivals. Neither was afraid to become a soldier for their cause. They joined together for their rights against a government restraining those rights. They make a nice team. Rivals, yet, comrades in arms. Fellow patriots addressing a cause was their only combined statement.
With earnest prayers to all my friends to cherish mutual good will, to promote harmony and conciliation, and above all things to let the love of our country soar above all minor passions, I tender you the assurance of my affectionate esteem and respect. Thomas Jefferson
Some of the people will learn of the outcome of the Debate Debacle. Based on the government and corporate press suppression of information, things do not look good for a meaningful debate. If a worst case scenerio evolves for the fascist political parties requiring a 3rd party 3rd debate, they cancel the last debate, or the court document just sits, or the judge will over-rule the Constitution, or whatever. But, the fascist's parties can not allow a 3rd party debate. It would be political suicide for the public to become aware of the rights of the people and the Constitutional restrictions on this government that need to be returned to America.
How soon we forget history... Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action George Washington
What then? This country is 20 days away from a presidential election without national exposure of the 3rd party candidates platforms. The time is brief for the task at hand. The numbers of both informed consituents 3rd parties is less than either major party. Another arrest is not going to get corporate press address any more than the first. The platforms are still without exposure to the general public.
The firmness with which the people have withstood the late abuses of the press, the discernment they have manifested between truth and falsehood, show that they may safely be trusted to hear everything true and false, and to form a correct judgment between them. Thomas Jefferson
There seem to be two third parties that are symbiotic and work well together. It would seem the perfect blend. The numbers are needed. Since a Badnarik/Cobb ticket is not possible now, the most viable candidate needs to stay in the electon. With 48 state ballots in his pocket, that would be Badnarik. There seem to be few differences in the Green and Libertarian partyies' platforms. All the environmental issues should easlily be adopted by the Libertarian party as they are well within the Constitutional platform of the Libertarian party on basic inspection. The limited publicity by withdrawal of the Green party now, would certainly help viability of a PC that has aligned with the acceptable and needed Green party platforms. It would be a sacrifice for the Green party, but, the viability of their platform could be maintained. The Green Party's stance on women rights should be acceptable in the Libertarian view as long as those rights are not "more equal" than any other's rights. The other semi- similarly platformed party seems to have 2 problems with unity. They are heavily endorsed by NOW. Their views are contrary to the Libertarian Party platform in that NOW needs rights that make them "more equal" than other people and have consistently presented false information toward that end. Two problems the Libertarian Party can not abide. The other problem is Nader. While he is most likely fit enough for the Presidency, I doubt he is fit enough for the "Jail Debates". So it appears there can only be unity in the Libertarian and Green parties. The so called Reform Party would need to do some reforming to distinguish itself from the other fascist 'crat parties. Unfortunately, the Reform Party's only value to a true Constitutional Republic is to draw votes from the fascist 'crat parties.
To preserve the freedom of the human mind â?¦ and freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may think as we will, and speak as we think the condition of man will proceed in improvement. The generation which is going off the stage has deserved well of mankind for the struggles it has made, and for having arrested the course of despotism which had overwhelmed the world for thousands and thousands of years. If there seems to be danger that the ground they have gained will be lost again, that danger comes from the generation your contemporary. But that the enthusiasm which characterizes youth should lift its parricide hands against freedom and science would be such a monstrous phenomenon as I cannot place among possible things in this age and country. Thomas Jefferson
Jail Debate II is here. Difficulties in finding the correct prison facilities are making the debate itinerary hard to finalize. So many prisons. So few 3rd party Presidential Candidates (PCs). By publication time, a hearing will have been conducted in the case of the Arizona Libertarian Party v. the Arizona State University and the Commission on Presidential Debates. This attempt was to shut down the Bush - Kerry debate, scheduled for Wednesday or allow access to a 3rd party to participate.
"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government." --- James Madison
One has to wonder what good it will do for the judge to dispense a decree, unless of course it is for this government and against the Constitution. It appears as though only favorable decisions for this government are carried forward. Court documents were simply not served previously. Why will this time be any different? What makes this judicial paper any different than the previous one that was simply left to sit. This government is refusing to serve itself. The judge seems to be impotent in power or authority unless this government does it's Constitutional Duty. One would have to think this judge could do something regarding those in this government under his jurisdiction that need to be held accountable. Or the judge needs to be judged.
[The legislature] are bound to leave this particular right untouched and sacred, [or] we must say, that they may control freedom of the press, may abolish the trial by jury, may swallow the Executive and the Judiciary Powers of the State; nay that they may despoil us of our very right of suffrage ... James Madison
The National Press is Officially AWOL.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe. Thomas Jefferson
There is no longer a national press after 2 Presidential Candidates are arrested for Constitutional Rights violations without any coverage to the general public and will henceforth be called the 'corporate press'. Don't worry, the corporate press will have clear orders from their corporations and government to stay clear of the courthouse and jail debate areas. Rumor has it, there was a Restraining Order granted the corporational press, because they were 'afraid' and fearful of harm by PC Badnarik's and PC Cobb's platforms of government. If either, PC Badnarik or PC Cobb get within 500 yards of any corporational press member, their home, work, places they might frequent (the butts of the democrat and republocrat political parties), any family members of the corporational press or their corporational bosses, there will be a 'Rounding up of the usual suspects...' and the debate will be held prior to the standard 'on the day of the fascist parities debate'. If any national press do happen to wander by, the debate will be stopped and moved to a prison at least 500 yards away. This will cause serious prison transportation problems for both PC's as there are many in the national press, their habitats (the butts of the democrat and republocrat political parties), etc., but, this government is determined to make sure they, corporations and government power, are safe from corporation fear and government fear. Hopefully, one of the PCs will get a chance to put a Restraining Order on this government. Only time will tell.
Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. JAMES MADISON
One has to admire these two fine patriots. Volunteering for oppression by this government for the sake of their beliefs and their constituents beliefs. These are not kissing cousins. They are rivals. Neither was afraid to become a soldier for their cause. They joined together for their rights against a government restraining those rights. They make a nice team. Rivals, yet, comrades in arms. Fellow patriots addressing a cause was their only combined statement.
With earnest prayers to all my friends to cherish mutual good will, to promote harmony and conciliation, and above all things to let the love of our country soar above all minor passions, I tender you the assurance of my affectionate esteem and respect. Thomas Jefferson
Some of the people will learn of the outcome of the Debate Debacle. Based on the government and corporate press suppression of information, things do not look good for a meaningful debate. If a worst case scenerio evolves for the fascist political parties requiring a 3rd party 3rd debate, they cancel the last debate, or the court document just sits, or the judge will over-rule the Constitution, or whatever. But, the fascist's parties can not allow a 3rd party debate. It would be political suicide for the public to become aware of the rights of the people and the Constitutional restrictions on this government that need to be returned to America.
How soon we forget history... Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action George Washington
What then? This country is 20 days away from a presidential election without national exposure of the 3rd party candidates platforms. The time is brief for the task at hand. The numbers of both informed consituents 3rd parties is less than either major party. Another arrest is not going to get corporate press address any more than the first. The platforms are still without exposure to the general public.
The firmness with which the people have withstood the late abuses of the press, the discernment they have manifested between truth and falsehood, show that they may safely be trusted to hear everything true and false, and to form a correct judgment between them. Thomas Jefferson
There seem to be two third parties that are symbiotic and work well together. It would seem the perfect blend. The numbers are needed. Since a Badnarik/Cobb ticket is not possible now, the most viable candidate needs to stay in the electon. With 48 state ballots in his pocket, that would be Badnarik. There seem to be few differences in the Green and Libertarian partyies' platforms. All the environmental issues should easlily be adopted by the Libertarian party as they are well within the Constitutional platform of the Libertarian party on basic inspection. The limited publicity by withdrawal of the Green party now, would certainly help viability of a PC that has aligned with the acceptable and needed Green party platforms. It would be a sacrifice for the Green party, but, the viability of their platform could be maintained. The Green Party's stance on women rights should be acceptable in the Libertarian view as long as those rights are not "more equal" than any other's rights. The other semi- similarly platformed party seems to have 2 problems with unity. They are heavily endorsed by NOW. Their views are contrary to the Libertarian Party platform in that NOW needs rights that make them "more equal" than other people and have consistently presented false information toward that end. Two problems the Libertarian Party can not abide. The other problem is Nader. While he is most likely fit enough for the Presidency, I doubt he is fit enough for the "Jail Debates". So it appears there can only be unity in the Libertarian and Green parties. The so called Reform Party would need to do some reforming to distinguish itself from the other fascist 'crat parties. Unfortunately, the Reform Party's only value to a true Constitutional Republic is to draw votes from the fascist 'crat parties.
To preserve the freedom of the human mind â?¦ and freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may think as we will, and speak as we think the condition of man will proceed in improvement. The generation which is going off the stage has deserved well of mankind for the struggles it has made, and for having arrested the course of despotism which had overwhelmed the world for thousands and thousands of years. If there seems to be danger that the ground they have gained will be lost again, that danger comes from the generation your contemporary. But that the enthusiasm which characterizes youth should lift its parricide hands against freedom and science would be such a monstrous phenomenon as I cannot place among possible things in this age and country. Thomas Jefferson