Questions...138w CFL rubbermaid grow...flowering

[Bodom Children Of]

my plant has been in flower(12/12) for about 2 weeks
i am wondering where to find the trichomes
this plant has been grown in soil from seed with fox farm organic mix with perlite and vermicultite 4:1:1
this is not my first time trying at growing
but by far this is my best try
i was thinking of building a dryin rubbermaid box with a fan blowing out attached to a carbon filter
most of my knowledge came from overgrow as well as my inspiration for my grow box
i will be glad to help others with any questions if i can
nice to meet you all
-jason

[Bodom Children Of]

some more low quality pics
should i make a run to the plant store 30 minutes away to get some nutes or just go pure foxfarm organic soil...ahahaa earthworm castings bat quano yum

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

I say just keep on doing what you're doing ...

[sheist]

thats all one plant??

[jamstigator]

Trichomes will be all over your buds and on the leaves intertwined with the buds. They are quite small, little stalks with balls atop them. It is the color of these little balls that is important when you are nearing harvest time. Here are some closeup pics of trichomes on some plants at 50 days of flowering. They're mostly clear, which means not harvest time yet. Pics were taken with a 30x jewelers' loupe held in front of the lens of a consumer digital camera (Canon A620) set on macro.

[Bodom Children Of]

thank you jamstigator
trichomes have really started to show them selves in the past week or so
i have the microscope from radioshack everyone talks of to look at my trichomes
yes, sheist thats all one plant
i trained that plant like rocky balboa, have to in order to flower in the little tubs
im thinking of investing in some more grow tubs in order to have a continual grow....seedlings, vegging, flowering
thanks for all the input everyone
-jason

[Bodom Children Of]

some more pics
one plant...yes
i tried to take some pics to show how i tied them down/ LST'd them
im not keeping track of days in flowering im just going by trichome color

[Bodom Children Of]

:dance: :pimp:
overhead view and more LST demonstration pictures
any input/comments/questions are welcome!
-Jason

[Anathema2121]

Wow man, congrats, thats a beautiful job on that LST. Nice pics too man. Just curious, did you start off with more than 1 plant in that box and hope for female or did you have enough room for more before you started flowering? But yeah man awesome setup, I love how compact it is, I might have to steal your design in the future :)

[Bodom Children Of]

i had two plants with on being female...i quick setup another cheaply done tub to better my odds of getting a female

[Bodom Children Of]

updates
some of the stems are turning yellow...wondering if this is from old age or nutrient deficiency...i put one dose of slow release 17-17-17 about 2 weeks ago...the box said one feeding per 4 months
the trichomes are clear to cloudy:pimp:
i started six more seedlings yesterday that are yet to sprout
already germinated them then put them in mix of 4:1:1
potting soil, perlite, vermicultite
if anyone want to make rubbermaid grow tubs don't go to home depot, lowes has everything ahahahah
only supplies needed from home depot is to make carbon filter
also i will probably make a drying/curing tub with carbon filter
will post pics when made

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

Your grow is pretty much my inspiration now. Mine's the exact same kind of box, though I didn't know anyone else was doing that. I even have the same fan. Mine's at four nodes, and at five I'm going to start the LST'ing process.

[Nochowderforyou]

That is some very impressive growing there Bodom Children Of. Now that is someone who has been doing their homework. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I suggest you find another space to flower under a 150Whps bulb. I used to grow for a good year with CFL's and I had good results and potent smoke, but what I got that 150W, I tripled my yeilds! In shorter amount of time as well.

Just a suggestion. :) But keep doing what you're doing because you got a greenthumb alright. :cool:

[IneedMONEY]

thats a pretty sweet grow man. I definatly like the LST, thats how it should be done. During my grow I had 6 plants and I topped 3 and just left 3 untopped. Then I would kinda tie down each plant differently, try to find the most space efficent. Keep truckin, get some high qual pictures of the nugs.

[somethingfunny]

Looks good :thumbsup:

btw what is LST?

[kdspecial]

nice Do you have pictures of the final yeild? Do the CLFs get the buds crystaly like an Hps?

[Bodom Children Of]

this is my first full grow using this grow setup trichomes are still clear so a ways to go yet but ill report my yeild here
-somethingfunny : LST is low stress training(i believe thats what it stands for)
you tie/bend the plant horizontally and let the side stalks go up mostly it produces an even canopy of buds of low height my space is pretty small including the huge pot in the rubbermaid tubs...thought i would be able to maybe squeeze two plants in one grow space but this one plant takes up the whole space by itself...i have spend alot of time tying this plant down in order to keep low height...was thinking of switching to a cabinet but ended up tying them down heavilly, might not veg as long before cutting to 12/12 next grow
here are a couple of pics....sorry my camera sucks i dont know how to take high quality close up pics but i tried

[Bodom Children Of]

i just wanna add this picture to my thread becuase i found it very useful as a guide

[somethingfunny]

Ah ok, thanks for the explanation. So basically it ensures even lighting when you have limited bulbs

[Bodom Children Of]

somethingfunny: Ah ok, thanks for the explanation. So basically it ensures even lighting when you have limited bulbs

Yes, but one is also able to get more budsites from one plant I believe.
:rasta:

[elway07]

hey bodom I have a question for you m8. I am going to make a make shift ventelation system for my closet using cpu fans. My question may be dumb but need advice none the less. I have 4 computer type fans that each have two wires, obviously black and red.... what kind of wiring do I need to hook it up to to plug it in or how do you do it? Does that make sense?
I guess basically I am asking for a step by step on how to take four seperate CPU fans and turn em into vent fans as you have on the top of your box. Thanks so much
Elway

[Bodom Children Of]

all you need to do is take an AC adapter (can be from a variety of things)
next splice the wires together, if the fan doesn't work with the wires hooked up one way try switching the neg & pos
im not sure how many fans one can hook up to an individual ac adapter
i have one 120mm fan to an ac adapter and two 80mm fans to an ac adapter
hope this helps, any more questions just ask

[elway07]

sweet that does help I didn't think about that what volts do use use?
Thanks a lot

[Bodom Children Of]

one is 6v the other is 12v

[IneedMONEY]

its electricity principals. depending on if the fans are in parallel or in series you need different adapters. You definatly need an adapter but you need to match the amperage as close as possible or youll burn shit out. Just installed 2 cpu fans

[Bodom Children Of]

Here are some update pictures
everything still going along smooth
some yellowing of leaves but i guess thata be natural from old age
can't wait till these buds are done
plant has been in flower for about 6-7 weeks
can anyone make an educated guess as to how long i have left?:pimp:

[Bodom Children Of]

here are a couple trichome pics taken at 100x
seen everyone else taking pics like this so i tried
i also made a odorless bud drier
two layers with carbon filter and 250cfm
yes i must get a dimmer to slow down that fan

[Bodom Children Of]

here are some seedlings ive started for my next grow
just some more bagseed but i will probably take clones from at least one female

[Bodom Children Of]

Here are some pics of the plant. Sorry about the shitty quality but I am no photographer.:D

I figure they'll be done by the end of this month.:thumbsup:

Can anyone give me a rough estimate on how long till they be done?:confused:

They have lost alot of lower leaves and browning leaves alot but i see good new growth coming from the buds.:p

skeet, skeet:stoned:

[harris7]

how much did you get out of your box? a few of my friends are very interested in using your idea

[Bodom Children Of]

how much did you get out of your box? a few of my friends are very interested in using your idea

The plant is still flowering, but will be done by the end of the month:thumbsup:

I'll post my yeild in this thread when it is harvested:smokin:

[Bodom Children Of]

Harris7:
Also, These would be excellent for a closet or in a corner somewhere.:thumbsup:
As for in the dorms, I would be leary, but depending on how secure the room can be, it could be done.:thumbsup:
Any questions you or your friends have just ask!:stoned:


I will be trying SOG with clones in one of my grow boxes, so I will let you and the forum know how that goes. Hopefully i will yeild more than from just LSTing one plant.:pimp:

[doco]

I think thats an incredible job of LST'ing them...I love how you have them zig zagging back & forth. I bet you could fit an 8 ft Sativa in that box using your method!

[Bodom Children Of]

I think thats an incredible job of LST'ing them...I love how you have them zig zagging back & forth. I bet you could fit an 8 ft Sativa in that box using your method!

hahahaha...I'd sure in the fuck try to:stoned:

[TheBudBuster]

nice growing man.. im gonna try lst.. seems to work wonders..

[elway07]

let us know your yield when she's done. that looks great. I wished I had tied my plants early on. I had no idea they would get so freaking big...lol

[Bodom Children Of]

Just waitin' on the trichomes! :stoned:

Some halfway decent closeups of the buds (pics1,2):thumbsup:

Here is the plant today after I watered her. The pot fits right into that bowl so i just drain into that. (pic3)

This is just the plant sitting in the bin. (pic4):smokin:

[doco]

Man, those look good...like they are covered in ice. And those pistils are so long & spikey it makes them look like Venus Fly Traps! They could be ready any day now. Nice job. :thumbsup:

[Bodom Children Of]

Man, those look good...like they are covered in ice. And those pistils are so long & spikey it makes them look like Venus Fly Traps! They could be ready any day now. Nice job. :thumbsup:

Yeah I wanna smoke some....:pimp:
Some parts of the bud are really amber while others are not so I will continue to wait. This is my first grow so I just want to see lots of amber trichomes....get a fuckin coutchlock high:thumbsup:

[elway07]

Great grow let us know your yield off that plants...

[Bodom Children Of]

:smokin: The pics speak for themselves.
will post more after it is done drying and in jars to cure.
scales are at wet weight:stoned:

[TheBudBuster]

lol u cunt... oney messin enjoy brutha. how long and how do you cure them..

[jamstigator]

Looks nice! Dry weight will probably be 3-ish ounces, which is pretty good for a rubbermaid grow. Enjoy the fruits of your labor and patience! ;)

Edit: Oops, thought the scale said 260 grams, not 26.0. So, I have no idea what your total wet weight is, but dry weight is about 1/3 or 1/4 of wet weight, in my experience, sometimes even 1/5 if you dry it really thoroughly. Whatever, looks good! I'd smoke it!

[Bodom Children Of]

After being in the bud drier for 3 days they were crispy so i moved em into jars. weight was 80.2g, biggest single bud was 7.4g:smokin:

[TheBudBuster]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooow from the box

[Bodom Children Of]

Check out my new chillum I just got for $25:stoned:
Buds been goin like hotcakes:smokin:

[loser90]

Nice how many plants did you fit in there and what was the wattage

[Bodom Children Of]

Nice how many plants did you fit in there and what was the wattage

One plant, and 23w X 6 = 138watts:thumbsup:

[Weed4Life]

Excellent grow dude. buds look sweet, and yeah I like to off some pot and it seems to go quick in my town.NIce grow box especially with 6 cfl's. Awesome and cheap with good yields with sum Lst. Let me know how you are gonna clone your mum. I was gonna use a wick cloner when I get to that spot. Heres a pic of what Im talking about:http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=10225&highlight=wick+cloner

[Bodom Children Of]

Excellent grow dude. buds look sweet, and yeah I like to off some pot and it seems to go quick in my town.NIce grow box especially with 6 cfl's. Awesome and cheap with good yields with sum Lst. Let me know how you are gonna clone your mum. I was gonna use a wick cloner when I get to that spot. Heres a pic of what Im talking about:http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=10225&highlight=wick+cloner

I have cloned with this method: Dowzer's peat pellet cloning method (http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/1126.htm)

I bought some peat pellets, roottech cloning gel, and a new exacto knife. Made the 45 degree cut underwater and let em soak a bit them smother about an inch on the end with the gel and put em in the pellets after they soaked with water. Then set em in two clear cups to act as humidome, mist every so often

Hope it helps any other questions just ask...check out my Second Grow (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=81530) where the cloning is happening right now!:thumbsup:

[mPk]

Bodom I was just curious if the fan on top of your grow box is blowing in or out of the box? (during vegging&flowering)Thanks:)

[Bodom Children Of]

shit man, nice buds... cant wait for a smoke report :D

My motha is almost 2 weeks flower.... you should checkout my thread its getting a bit boring ;)

It's a nice heady high, no couchlock really. Takes only bout a half bowl to a bowl to get me ripped.:smokin:
I'll check out your thread...I just put my mother into 12/12 from second grow,a week ago today.



Bodom I was just curious if the fan on top of your grow box is blowing in or out of the box? (during vegging&flowering)Thanks:)

Out...all the time....for circulation and expelling the hot air from the lights right below.:thumbsup:

[Schwagelfankey]

Here's an idea to make it a bit more aesthetically pleasing.
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[prlito9mm]

hey bodom im looknig to building the same exact box..that box really inspired me...how long did you veg or how long should i so the plant wont outgrow the box

[green_gardenr]

so do you think it would it be possible to put a small hps light in there with a cool tube?? or would it get to hot??

[Bodom Children Of]

so do you think it would it be possible to put a small hps light in there with a cool tube?? or would it get to hot??

I think one could do it. I'm going to try it eventually. Hopefully sooner, than later.:jointsmile:

[trynagethigh]

What size tubs were those that you used. I have some huge ones that I know would work for 2 or 3 plants.

[Sugarblaster]

i posted this in ur other thread, figured i'd try it here since it's the question thread:

How exactly do you make the carbon filter? Im a noob, so what is the carbon filter necessary for? and why not stick with the PVC pipe intake, or do you use both?

also how hot does it get in there?

[trynagethigh]

sugar heres a link to the carbon scrubber instructions.
http://boards.cannabis.com/growroom-setup/90173-how-carbon-filter.html

[Cyclonite]

So you got about .6g/watt very commendable...I dont think after 3 days the buds would be dried through. Did you happen to get the true dried weight or were they dried all the way through?

I might have to give this a go...you got more per watt than I did with a 400 HPS.

I like the 40gal square rubbermaid, no lst required and you could run 4 ft fluorescents on the sides...Ill put mylar all over the inside and really have close to 0 light loss. You could take a 4 light ballast and make a plexe sp? glass holder for each lamp...wood would be fine also. So 1 4 ft light per side...you could get excellent vertical light coverage.

Blend this with a simple canna coco hydro setup and a simple drip system and i bet you could get awesome results.

[cazro]

I see you used the carbon air scrubber for the exhaust in the bud dryer. What about using one for the grow box you made http://boards.cannabis.com/growroom-setup/80747-how-rubbermaid-tub-growbox.html

I'm sure there is smell coming out of the box that the carbon thing can eradicate. I guess this could be done by adding a duct on top and attaching the filter.

Also, do you use a lid for the dryer box? Do you put holes on the top. I'm assuming yes.

[Bodom Children Of]

yes i use the same one for the rubbermaid grow box attached to an inline fan. yes there is a lid for the dryer box with two passive intakes. 1 inch each.

[cazro]

So would you say the air scrubber took away all the smell or most of the smell so that you could only smell it if you stuck your nose up to the box?

[redlevels]

I've read through out this post and not once was the pot size mentioned, was this deliberate? I've spent hours looking for the pot size!

So what is the pot size? :jointsmile:

[BongVader]

"Before you consider one an enemy, first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, if he *is* an enemy, you're a mile ahead, and you have his shoes."

hahaha badass quote dude

[BongVader]

I think im going to use this type of grow, it all makes sense but i have one question about the AC adapters, i have like 5 of the 12 V and was wondering, do u just cut the cord before the connector to get the red and black wires? this is really the only thing that illudes me

[Hennessy1414]

I've read through out this post and not once was the pot size mentioned, was this deliberate? I've spent hours looking for the pot size!

So what is the pot size? :jointsmile:

bump. answer that one :rastasmoke:

[Gundari]

ive done a similar grow and i used a 5 gallon bucket, i feel it was overkill. If that helps at all.

[thecreator]

Hmm love the box idea but how do you think this idea would be with one plant bing grown hydroponically? That would be sick hmm I guess if you found something small enough to be a reservoir or something. Hmm if you got a larger box you could get a five gallon bucket and cut it accordingly. Hmm I'm going to look into that. I'd love to have just one plant going in my room.

Great box man big up your self!

[Sjapp]

So the carbon filter. where does that go? on top of the exhaust fan?

[Balkey]

Well Sjapp, you should search some of his grow logs (grow log #2 to be exact), its shown where it's at. BUT I found the link for j00 and here it is:

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/indoor-growing/94635d1161186709-second-bagseed-grow-100_0759.jpg

WOOOOOOO that indeed is the exhaust.

Enjoy. :rastasmoke:

[black3290]

im kinda confused.
do you leave it growing in there for how long until its finished?
for 12/12? or is there something im missing?

[black3290]

what is the temp supposed to be when light is off?

[edub325]

I have a 400 watt hps light and would like to build a rubbermaid setup

[bugmenot11]

I have a 400 watt hps light and would like to build a rubbermaid setup

you need a cooltube and shit tons of fans. get 58gallon tubs to make it and expect to get lots of flouros to put around the side. also need a vortex can fan:rastasmoke:

[midniter]

updates
some of the stems are turning yellow...wondering if this is from old age or nutrient deficiency...i put one dose of slow release 17-17-17 about 2 weeks ago...the box said one feeding per 4 months
the trichomes are clear to cloudy:pimp:
i started six more seedlings yesterday that are yet to sprout
already germinated them then put them in mix of 4:1:1
potting soil, perlite, vermicultite
if anyone want to make rubbermaid grow tubs don't go to home depot, lowes has everything ahahahah
only supplies needed from home depot is to make carbon filter
also i will probably make a drying/curing tub with carbon filter
will post pics when made ( Bloom whats the basic way your tying the plant down?Do you use a small pencil or pipe cleaner & tie it to it then the side of the planter?I have some plants i have already topped 2 times,and there pretty bushy but there only 12 in high now in 5 weeks,i wanted to know can i do the tie down method now & make them produce more under a 400 watt hps hortilux light by making them bend around?Thx for any info bloom.

[blowin]

WILL LIGHTS CFLS A BUNCH OF THEM work for this setup?
thanks

[fishneck]

dude this box is awesome i have 5 pk 2 northern lights the only problem i had was mildew used baking soda on them left it for 2 day washed them .They now are in they second day of flowering and growing like a weed lol

[Bodom Children Of]

post some pix then ! :rastasmoke:

[ZoSo12]

I live on the southern east coast. So no I can't grow my meds legally. It's a shame I have to risk my life and freedom to get my meds. And then it's not good quality. The only thing you can do with it is smoke it. I prefer to cook with it. It's a lot more healthy for me. The only sinsibud around here is about $25-$30 a gram. I estimate no more than 11% THC levels. I can't trust anything around here so whats the point. I just suffer.
But you my friend have inspired me. :thumbsup: