View Full Version : Who thinks 2pac is still alive?
Baz2137
08-01-2006, 08:11 PM
Well I just recently saw a probably bogus 2pac sighting and it caught my intrest because when I was younger I did a project on it, anyway what do you people think? I think its a possiblity, but I doubt it.
OniEhtRedrum781
08-01-2006, 08:12 PM
nahh, i'm pretty sure he's dead...
graph
08-01-2006, 09:03 PM
2pac's alive, he hangs out with the easter bunny, santa, and jesus.
NightProwler
08-01-2006, 09:05 PM
i think hes gone for good.
sweetnhighz
08-01-2006, 09:09 PM
any1 ever hear of witness protection program? if theres a possibility he is alive this is where he would be, wanting every1 to think hes dead is genious! cause u know somebody wants/wanted him dead for some reason, i truely believe hes in the wpp, i know one thing, he sure is making hella money still for supposdly being DEAD!
go toke up
08-01-2006, 09:25 PM
2pac's alive, he hangs out with the easter bunny, santa, and jesus.
lmao. he does,i seen it. :stoned:
iwantFUEGO
08-01-2006, 09:29 PM
that would be kewl.
DaZeDShAdOw
08-01-2006, 09:52 PM
maybe, maybe not............none of us knows did we see his body lmao and i think that autopsy picture was a fake ass bogus picture it didnt even show his face lol he was turned lol
I think hes alive. He had alot of people after his blood, he had to lay low.
jeter0213
08-01-2006, 09:55 PM
i think hes alive becasue no pics of him in the hospital and the funeral was cancelled at the last minute i definately think hes alive
orangeman
08-01-2006, 09:56 PM
If you still think 2pac is alive your in denial. He died 10 yrs ago. You only get arrested if you come back 7 years after your death, after that nothing can happen (besides lose in respect). I never knew the guy but from the home footage I saw of him, he's not the type of guy that could go this long in the dark faking his death.
chisme
08-01-2006, 10:01 PM
YEAH ITS OVER HE'S DEAD
upinsmokeuk
08-01-2006, 10:29 PM
dont know if its true but he ment to be in mexico,and macavelli{in latin}i think it was means somethin about it all,{just what i heard}but seen pics on internet of him after shooting so would be good cover up,made him more popular and more money thou
orangeman
08-01-2006, 10:38 PM
dont know if its true but he ment to be in mexico,and macavelli{in latin}i think it was means somethin about it all,{just what i heard}but seen pics on internet of him after shooting so would be good cover up,made him more popular and more money thou
It was spelled "Makaveli" and he got that alias from the Prince Machiavelli from reading many of his books while in Prison. You guys gotta watch the movie "Biggie & Tupac: The Story Behind the Murder of Rap's Biggest Superstar" it will totally change your mind about Tupac supposidly "faking his death". The picture of his autopsy might be fake but that doesnt mean his death was faked. If we can watch movies like Hostel and Saw and see these excellent effects what makes you think some good make up artist couldnt have made that picture up just for publicity and to start a bunch of shit?
I mean just look at this wax statue of Tupac http://www.alleyezonme.com/images/2pac_wax.jpg
If people can get that realistic dont think they cant make some one up to look like 2pac from an angle (especially if your just looking at one pic..from the side).
420mory
08-01-2006, 10:41 PM
He's living in our hearts, never die!
Its a Plant
08-01-2006, 11:18 PM
Orangeman, nice to see you've been educated on Pac. Keep it real.
As for any question that he might still be alive, the answer is that there is no question. The dude's gone.
If you saw even one T.V. interview with him, and saw how he spoke and acted, him pulling a stunt like faking his own death is just a joke. He was a hardass, and talked shit and I'm sure loved to back it up whenever possible. He was from the streets, fighting is in his blood. Sadly, he was brought down in a short fight, if you want to call it that.
Hmm, I might go listen to either "Changes" or an acoustic "Thugz Mansion".
Smoke one for the man ~
~R.I.P. ~
zeebo phillips
08-01-2006, 11:20 PM
It was spelled "Makaveli" and he got that alias from the Prince Machiavelli from reading many of his books while in Prison. You guys gotta watch the movie "Biggie & Tupac: The Story Behind the Murder of Rap's Biggest Superstar" it will totally change your mind about Tupac supposidly "faking his death". The picture of his autopsy might be fake but that doesnt mean his death was faked. If we can watch movies like Hostel and Saw and see these excellent effects what makes you think some good make up artist couldnt have made that picture up just for publicity and to start a bunch of shit?
I mean just look at this wax statue of Tupac http://www.alleyezonme.com/images/2pac_wax.jpg
If people can get that realistic dont think they cant make some one up to look like 2pac from an angle (especially if your just looking at one pic..from the side).
His jaw looks a bit too thin...just a bit...
Alive
08-02-2006, 01:45 AM
i smoke nugs with my man tupac all the time what you know about that....
LOL /sarcasm
benagain
08-02-2006, 02:35 AM
No way of knowing for sure, but I think he's dead myself.
dopesmoker
08-02-2006, 02:55 AM
Hes gone. Believe it or not he is dead. R.I.P.
3rdEyeVision
08-02-2006, 03:01 AM
wasnt there a sighting of him walking in downtown LA or something???....hes also released like 3-4 cds since hes been dead
lagstronaut
08-02-2006, 03:17 AM
Isn't it true that all the music he recorded was in a 2 year span? Like hundreds of songs or something? Someone was telling me that instead of spending weeks on tracks like alot of artists do, he just went into the studio with his shit already ready and got multiple songs done every day in month long stretches, because he just had such an understanding of the process. If it's true then that's just fucking amazing, considering the quality of each song is maintained, not just getting songs done for the sake of getting songs done
Genuine17
08-02-2006, 04:03 AM
the bitch is alive witness protection!!!!
the mans released more movies and albums "dead" than i will ever in my living life!
Oneironaut
08-02-2006, 04:27 AM
Who thinks 2pac is still alive?
Deluded people.
delta9thc06
08-02-2006, 04:52 AM
http://www.jokaroo.com/extremevideos/tupac-alive.html
word.
StOneD.aS.FuK
08-02-2006, 01:58 PM
live by the gun DIE by the gun. :thumbsup:
smok3y
08-02-2006, 02:39 PM
Man Pac's gone, all these storys off pac sightnings are complete shit, do u think he going to fake his death and walk down the streets of LA or NY!? I think not!!
It would be good if they got the person who shot pac and biggie..
May they both rest in peace..
cannabis campbell
08-02-2006, 03:19 PM
I think hes alive. He had alot of people after his blood, he had to lay low.
omg one person who thinks hes alive, well two including me
if you look at all the facts your stupid if you think hes dead :)
orangeman
08-02-2006, 03:21 PM
omg one person who thinks hes alive, well two including me
if you look at all the facts your stupid if you think hes dead :)
....:p.
cannabis campbell
08-02-2006, 03:32 PM
No offence orangeman :) lol
cannabis campbell
08-02-2006, 03:33 PM
Tupac Facts (http://members.aol.com/subseven/tupac.html)
read this then give your opinion
orangeman
08-02-2006, 03:51 PM
Tupac Facts (http://members.aol.com/subseven/tupac.html)
read this then give your opinion
Oh trust me, I've read all of those "facts" before and really that shit is not true. Remember, Tupac read a book by Machiavelli. Machiavelli faked his death but 2pac didnt. He might have did things up to his death that added up to make it look fake but the actual event that took place was not fake. It was on camera that they beat the shit out of Orlando Anderson. Suge grew up in a blood neighborhood and he had a crew that contained mostly bloods. Even the LEO he was cool with was a blood don. I dont know the right names or none of that shit, I'm not into gangs but to make a long story short if you really ask me I think 2pac was set up and killed by cops because be planned to leave Death Row. Suge wasnt gonna have that, think of all the money he'd lose. I believe Suge had him assassinated and attempted to release all of his unreleased tracks to get money. But that didnt work out to well :p. If 2pac didnt get shot and Suge didnt lose those masters then I wouldnt doubt if Suge would have tried to get Afeni assassinated for those tracks.
Lethal G
08-02-2006, 04:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu-lOzwHXkY
Perfect evidence that Tupac is dead and that his music is just way ahead of his time. :)
Its a Plant
08-02-2006, 04:12 PM
Tupac Facts (http://members.aol.com/subseven/tupac.html)
read this then give your opinion
Haha, those "facts" were fabricated by some 12 year old that wanted his or her very own website. I think I'll go ahead and cast those aside. He is dead. Do you honestly think he'd fake his own death, when there were so many that cared about him? His mom is probably still a wreck over it, and every appearance I've ever seen of her, she ends up bawling on stage. He wouldn't do that to his momma.
cannabis campbell
08-02-2006, 04:14 PM
Hes alive he really is
hes in columbia :)
lilstony421
08-02-2006, 10:01 PM
he might be in pertective hiding of what not. WHo knows . I seen shows on it and it was on americas most wanted . Its like he dies and then the world goes on . you never no .
and for the signtings out there not all african americans look like tupac lol .
Kryzco
08-02-2006, 10:04 PM
I don't think tupac would fake his death
its would just be betrayal to his legacy
He would lose all the respect he worked so hard to get
I think he's dead
cannabis campbell
08-02-2006, 10:16 PM
Maybe he gained the respect so people would think that... ?
MegaOctane12
08-02-2006, 10:25 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that he's been dead for ten years and he's still releasing tunes.
cannabis campbell
08-02-2006, 10:44 PM
and movies...
MistaPoleeseMan
08-02-2006, 11:08 PM
Pac lived in the studio. He recorded a ridiculous amount of songs with a ridiculous amount of people. He did it cuz he said he had a dream in which he received knowledge of his own death. Most of the shit they have put out by him wouldnt have made it out of the studio if he had it his way.
There is no way he is alive. He read alot of books about Machiavelli and other what-ever-the-fuck Machiavelli did type individuals. He gave all of the Outlaws names from what-ever-the-fuck Machiavelli did type individuals. I doubt it was because he was planning to fake his own death like Machiavelli did. That would be fuckin stupid. If you were going to do that why name yourself after a guy that did it? Thats a foolproof way to get found the fuck out.
I aint even gonna click the Tupac Facts link. Ive seen 100000000 of them already with all this math and this and that and facts twisted into a giant conspiracy. If you want to find something very badly its easy to get tunnel vision and start linking things together like a twisted chain.
MistaPoleeseMan
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
I dont really think it was bout money that got Pac killed. Suge was jerkin him already payin him in assets and shit instead of checks. Mufukas was always after him for whatever reason. He had a big mouth and he was arrogant as fuck. People tend not to deal to well with that in the underworld. Pacs security set it up for some reason. They were told not to take their guns with em. Even the security guard who saw it happen said it happened so fast they couldnt have stopped it anyway.
jamstigator
08-02-2006, 11:28 PM
He's out there trying to keep Elvis from killing JFK.
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 12:05 AM
i got board and did a lil research, there is no proof that the bullets that hit him killed him . I seen the pics and theres alot of ways . Its like in the mob if somones after you they fack the death . Havent you ever seen joe dirt. HE wanted to get out of the spot light from everyone and thats the best way to do it . And as for his mother why would it make her sad . if anything it would make her happy to see her son living his life out of the publics eye . like he wanted . Theres no proof that he is dead. after he was shot they had the atopse and then a day after they (creamated him) then the funeral was canceled last min and no one knows what happened after that . He had alot of money he could have put that fack photo out there . And as for his image he did not care and did not wana be looked up to so much . Theres plent of places to find info. also he got shot 5 times how come they had to cut his head open . IF he was not shot in the head. so people befor you say he is dead have proof . He could be and he could not .
also wasent there a garage that they found with alot of biggy smalls picks and nazi stuff hanging in it and they arrested that guy but let him go .
also the only person that seen the shooting was killed in a hall way . kinda straigh.
plus he always had a vest on and he did not to go to the tyson fight . that was ?ing in the 1st place .
MistaPoleeseMan
08-03-2006, 12:25 AM
Dude. You must be really high to type all that mis-information. Several people saw the shooting. His security was following him in a Navigator. Also, Pac had on a basketball jersey. Not a vest. He died from a collapsed lung.
This is the internet, I could make a myspace account and say I was Tupac. Dont beleive everything you read on the internet.
This would help immensely.
http://pbskids.org/caillou/games/spelling.html
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 12:56 AM
what year did he die??????? was it 1997
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 12:59 AM
you tell me not to belive anything onthe internet yet you tell me it over the interent . kinda funny
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 01:04 AM
The Simple Facts
After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996 Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.
The Suspicious Facts
Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.
There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.
In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.
The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the exectutive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.
The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with Suge Knight.
Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".
A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta.
The shooting gave him respect because everyone bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.
In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)
There are no suspects for the shooting.
Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.
Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight?
In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly creamated the day after he "died"? And since when do they creamate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autospy.
The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.
The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.
Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coinsidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.
There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"?
The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry), . In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)?
In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "ni**as Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that ni**a's gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.
In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?
In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf**kin menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had bi**h a*s ni**as on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.
In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan s**t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.
On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli.
The only witness to the shooting was found shot to death in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him.
Doesn't all this sound a bit to ridiculous, although there is no specific fact that makes my theory valid, there is nothing the obviously disproves it, but it all adds up to something, there must be something funny going on. Don't you think?
Although this doesn't provide any evidence about Tupac's death, it is interesting. If you rearrange the letters of "makaveli", you get "mak alive", or make alive. Remember how Tupac spelled Machiavelli as Makaveli? Well, he is probably spelling Calumnate as Killuminati. Calumnate means to make false or slanderous statements.
In his recent new album titled "2pac Greatest Hits" on one of the tracks he said "Rest in peace Biggie Smalls", wasn't these tracks recorded before the death of the Notorious B.I.G?
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 01:28 AM
if you would have read what i wrote befor you wrote lol you would see what i ment and the navigor 1st came out in 1997 or at least all the places i looked it did so they had a 1997 in 1996 the sercurity drove a navee and tupac had a bmw seams kidda funny. that the sercurity would drive a better and new car than the singer / stars .this is kinda fun this is all i will type till i let you guys cheack up.I maybe wrong
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/chadmilliser/paccardeath.gif
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/chadmilliser/th_autopsy.jpg (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/chadmilliser/autopsy.jpg)
Its a Plant
08-03-2006, 02:24 AM
Tupac's himself is not releasing anything new, people. Could it be possible that perhaps his record label and producers do all that after he layed the track down? Most of the stuff from new albums were just verses he recorded years before, then someone added a beat to it. He's not magical. Hmmm, he's not the only one working on an album. It's just his name that goes on the cover. Please, please stop trying to prove that he's alive and that let it go. He's gone.
spliffstar22
08-03-2006, 03:29 AM
he's alive... All you people sayin he wasn't smart enough, and he was from the streets so he couldn't do it?? 2pac was a smart man, smarter than the average man, just think about it, someone that famous would have a public funeral, like biggie's... Why would there be no funeral.....?
Its a Plant
08-03-2006, 03:35 AM
Every celebrity likes there privacy. I'm sure his family was no different. I can respect that they don't want their son's coffin on the front page of every newspaper in America. Him faking his death or going into hiding just wasn't him. His character was the opposite of that. He was confrontational. Punking out and faking his death?? Please, maybe some other attention-starved rapper, but he just didn't do it.
He is dead.
Gone.
No longer with us.
And I'm sure if he had any say on the subject, he'd just want people to move on with their lives and not continue to speculate about such nonesense, and only that we take what he said with us. ~
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 04:08 AM
how would you no him what you think your his g/f or somthing thats not facts like we have thats what you think and eveone has there own views on it .
Its a Plant
08-03-2006, 04:12 AM
how would you no him what you think your his g/f or somthing thats not facts like we have thats what you think and eveone has there own views on it .
Haha, was that directed at me?
Sure everyone has "views" on it, but the "facts" are what should have this debate closed already.
Fact: Tupac is dead.
It's just a bunch of wishful-thinkers that always hope for something that's not.
Get over it :p
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 07:28 AM
u no how many people fact there deaths we will shut up if you get his mom on here to tell us were the ashes were put and 2 other people to back up her story . that would solve it . See you have a smart man with money that is like coming back from the dead to tell us what will happen and it is 100% the money he had they could have put out a reward to help him mother out.. mmmmm i do not see any. you have man that new hollywood ways and many many people and he could have very well. Its also funny if his mother was always so upset . they who made the tupac clothing line and weres that money going . shure is not going to to find the people. To all u people who think that he is dead . did you see his body after it was shot . did you see his body when he was cremated . Did you see his ashes .
what you do have is a guy that die of a collaps lung . when i was born that happened to me . Im not saying a story like he is in cuba or some shit . but i for one belive us fans that buy the cds and the cloths and take are time to care should no. Tupac is way more than HIS KILLer WILL ever be .
also for one if the drive of the car wanted his albums he was in the drivers seat and guys u do no that if he set it up he would not be right by him . A bullet will go right throw somone and hit the person by them . If it was a hit they would have garrenteed the kill and shot him in the head .
50 cent gets shot 9 times in the chest
tupac 5 and he dies ???
Its like he was shut out of are memmory and he is were he wants to be .
if everyone wants everyone to drop it then they should salve it .
there are many people poor or rich that fake there deaths each year.
no one seen the shooter
no one seen the body
we should get Nancy drew to salve this !!
graph
08-03-2006, 07:42 AM
I can shoot a man 12 times and it can miss every single major organ, and he can live. I can shoot a man one time in the back, and kill him without so much as a scream. All that proves is that the person who shot "FITTIE" either couldn't aim for crap, or isn't real. I'm going with the second one.
I think sometimes it's hard for some people to accept the mortality of their heroes, that even people who seem godlike can be brought down so easily. We want to believe they're alive because, let's face it, after death a person's career usually goes downhill. We want to believe a conspiracy so that it's not as simple as a legend simply dying.
If tupac faked his death, I would have less respect for him. He would have gone out a coward, rather than dying the way he lived his life.
Look at the bright side, Elvis died in a crapper, Lincoln was killed by a crazy person that jumped off of a balcony, and JFK... well... grassy knoll. Oh, now I see where you're coming from.
chillsmoke
08-03-2006, 07:48 AM
yeah hes dead man.. but his spirit can live on, he was a cool dude
Its a Plant
08-03-2006, 02:29 PM
Haha, please, this is killing me. So you're saying that just because I personally didn't see him buried, he's alive? If we played that little game, no one on earth would be dead according to you...:rolleyes:
And some of the other stuff you said, lilstoney, doesn't make any sense. So when you were born, you died of a collapsed lung? Hmmm...
Haha, maybe your some amateur hitman, which explains some of your very odd explanations on how things were done. But hey, I believe you..:rolleyes:
Cleary you are in the know in Hollywood, and know all about the conspiracies. His mom uses all that money for some foundation started in his name, so it's not for profit or some shit like that.
Any more lies told about how he's alive and living underwater in France are only tarnishing a good man's name.
Nochowderforyou
08-03-2006, 02:36 PM
Autopsy photo below.
He's dead, he got shot several times. He was running his mouth that night, him and his crew beat the shit out of the wrong guys in the casino, then, to get revenge, they shoot him up and kill him.
Makes sense to me. Gangs are doing this everyday over stupid, dumb shit. They get beat up, well, lets kill them.
My buddy once beat the shit out this guy in a bar once. 15min later, 5 of the victims buddies jump him and kick his front teeth out.
But hey, I was never a big fan of 2pac, so who knows for sure. I've just seen a few programs of him and I knew that his mouth would end up him being killed.
Baz2137
08-03-2006, 03:45 PM
Nigga got shot in Vegas, VEGAS! Its fucking Vegas damnit, how could anyone not see it?! He was loved when he was alive, but think about it when he died he got so much more publicity, even more people liked him, be became one of the greatest rap legends. Either Tupac predicted his own death, or he faked it. I admit if he were alive, someone by now would have found him, theres only so long you can go living a lie. And Tupac living one? Someone who speaks out that much? Is crazy to think he could do such a thing.
Or maybe theres some secret Government cover up where all the major people who have 'died' are just hidden away doing secret projects on to clone them and make super strong armies and take over the world....just maybe....but thats drifting off a little bit....so yeah....I think he MAY be alive, but its also the other possibility that he just died.
lilstony421
08-03-2006, 05:00 PM
i never said if you did not see his body i meant have you read anything about people seeing it . everything does not add up and i said i was born with a collaps lung and i lived fine lol . you took it the wrong way . thats all the reports say he got hit in the lung.
upinsmokeuk
08-03-2006, 09:36 PM
if anyone and i mean anyone,was told they would become the most richest/popular man in the world for fakein it,could someone tell me who wouldnt do it please.
graph
08-03-2006, 11:04 PM
Nigga got shot in Vegas, VEGAS! Its fucking Vegas damnit, how could anyone not see it?!
Question: How many people die in vegas without anyone knowing about it?
Answer: Too many.
He was famous, not immortal.
MistaPoleeseMan
08-03-2006, 11:24 PM
LilStony, you are dilusional. There is a movie that I recently watched that was a 2 hour interview with 2pac's personal body guard. He explains IN DETAIL exactly the position of his car in relation to 2pac and Suge, at the redlight, when he shooting took place. He saw the Cadillac and saw the window roll down and saw the guy/girl shooting. The guy popped him and rode off into the distance. Based off of that you think it would be easy to find out who did it?
I may have been wrong about the kind of car they were driving, but I can tell you this. A Navigator is about 50,000. A 7 Series BMW would go for 80 or 90,000. But that is irrelevant.
The dudes dead. All these hes still alive theories are comical.
graph
08-03-2006, 11:30 PM
Big L got shot a few blocks from his house. People think it had something to do with this brother, who owed money to the wrong people but was in jail at the time, or that the shooters mistook Big L for his brother. He died, but his music didn't. A few Big L songs which either contained him in snippets or unused or re-used beats were released.
Why can't people let it go?
yabatab
08-03-2006, 11:43 PM
This is my personal opinions on Tupac sorry if it offends anyone.
1. His music wasn't that good, it was rap the lowest form
of music there is.
2. He is dead let it go. Why would he fake his death? Think
about it he was a celebrity how could he hide it this long.
Don't you think he would have been tracked down by now no
matter where he is?
Oh yeah Elvis is living in some log cabin in the back woods
of Kentucky.....LOL
MistaPoleeseMan
08-03-2006, 11:45 PM
Big L was still "underground" so less non-hip-hop followers know about him. Old white men know who Tupac was.
Another thing I meant to say. If you have ever worked in a recording studio, or made a song, you would understand that the only thing a rapper does, is spit the verse. 16 bars is about 60 seconds or so. Its not hard for a rapper to have spit 1000 verses and only used 200. What you are hearing now and why it isnt as good as what we heard from Pac when he was alive, is the verses that didnt make the cut.
If you listen to Pacs work, he was obssesed with death and dying. If he would have died of old age theres plenty of information in his songs to make even that seem mysterious. Some people get lost in seeking the truth and create their own.
MistaPoleeseMan
08-03-2006, 11:47 PM
1. His music wasn't that good, it was rap the lowest form
of music there is.
I guess thats why rap is the most popular form of music in America today. Dont get mad cuz your favorite genre cant keep up.:rolleyes:
yabatab
08-04-2006, 12:00 AM
I guess thats why rap is the most popular form of music in America today. Dont get mad cuz your favorite genre cant keep up.:rolleyes:
Feed to the masses like Macdonalds hamburgers. I have found
that the most popular music is usually what teenagers buy and
is mostly garbage. A few bands stand apart from this stigma
most of them are bands from the 60's though.
Keep feeding into mass marketing jargon:thumbsup:
MistaPoleeseMan
08-04-2006, 12:05 AM
I been following Hip Hop for 15 years. Ive been producing and performing it for 5.
I cant help it if teenagers think its cool to listen to rap cuz girls like it. I know all too much about mass marketing jargon. I dont buy into it. When something is real you can recognize it. Rap wasnt always about iced out grillz and bitchez.
I listen to everything from Nina Simone to Al green to Paul Wall. I respect older music, you shouldnt disrespect mine.
yabatab
08-04-2006, 03:09 AM
I been following Hip Hop for 15 years. Ive been producing and performing it for 5.
I cant help it if teenagers think its cool to listen to rap cuz girls like it. I know all too much about mass marketing jargon. I dont buy into it. When something is real you can recognize it. Rap wasnt always about iced out grillz and bitchez.
I listen to everything from Nina Simone to Al green to Paul Wall. I respect older music, you shouldnt disrespect mine.
I actually like a few rappers and rap groups. The music has just
been processed and feed to the masses so much in the past 15
years that it is just repeating its self over and over again.
I'll find something that separates its self from the pack that I
like because of its originality like Nappy Roots or Cypress Hill.
I seen Nappy roots at a local bar here before they released
their first album.
fight your radio
08-04-2006, 03:12 AM
meh.
nwa or mf doom > 2pac
Its a Plant
08-04-2006, 03:34 AM
I actually like a few rappers and rap groups. The music has just
been processed and feed to the masses so much in the past 15
years that it is just repeating its self over and over again.
I'll find something that separates its self from the pack that I
like because of its originality like Nappy Roots or Cypress Hill.
I seen Nappy roots at a local bar here before they released
their first album.
LOL, you diss most music teenagers listen to, then profess your love for Nappy Roots. ~
Hmm, open-mindedness is the key. Maybe at least give a listen before completely writing off an entire generation's musical preference? Eh?
And for the record, I'm not really talking about all that poppy shit on MTV and the radio, but even the underground and the lesser-known bands. Generalizing all teenagers into that pathetic, zombie-driven MTV group was a mistake. Don't ever generalize, lol. And I'm sorry for coming off like a prick, as I'm sure you said it with little intent to offend all teenagers everywhere (Ha- I'm only a teenager for 1 more month, yet still I speak..stoned I am), but still, I at least had to speak my mind. Either ignore it, lol, or take it with a grain of salt. Although I must admit the 60's generation of music is oh so trippy.
L O V E ~
graph
08-04-2006, 04:30 AM
Take in some ADeeM, Atmosphere, Murs, and any other, lesser known MC's, and please, use discretion when you seethe.
Did you know that tupac, notorious B.I.G. and big L did a collab single called deadly combination? Wierd...
lilstony421
08-06-2006, 05:48 AM
i guess everyone willbelive what they want but you do no that if you have no proof or lack of proof itz kinda nothing to go on.
Its a Plant
08-06-2006, 05:57 AM
You know, you're right.
What's a dead body as proof, these days, anyway?
The real world is where I live.
Where are you at?
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