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Sedater18
10-09-2004, 01:25 AM
I'm stoned right now and i feel like i need to watch this presidential debate right now. it is really killing my buzz. God damn it kerry has an emotionless cold way of speaking and bush looks almost catatonic in this speech. It is like watching a father talking to his son. Kerry makes a statement and bush looks at him with his mouth hanging open and then gets up and looks like he's think "omfg duh! LOL omfg daddy i told you that they didnt have the big bombs but threat they had them terror war!" really pisses me off. Kerry has no charisma and bush is...dumb. Is anyone else getting annoyed with this

Torog
10-10-2004, 10:52 AM
I'm stoned right now and i feel like i need to watch this presidential debate right now. it is really killing my buzz.("*" )(edited for offensive content) it kerry has an emotionless cold way of speaking and bush looks almost catatonic in this speech. It is like watching a father talking to his son. Kerry makes a statement and bush looks at him with his mouth hanging open and then gets up and looks like he's think "("*")duh! LOL ("*") daddy i told you that they didnt have the big bombs but threat they had them terror war!" really pisses me off. Kerry has no charisma and bush is...dumb. Is anyone else getting annoyed with this
I quoted you,but without your offensive taking of the Lord's name in vain,I find,that it's Kerry who's clueless and dumb,in regards to the national security needs of America,as Kerry believes,that he must be popular with euroweenies,before he can act to protect America.

Sedater18
10-10-2004, 04:00 PM
thats pretty god damn amazing that your that god damn devoted to god. oh my god dude you god damn hard core. OMFG your hardcore god damn it, you must really love that god damn mother fucking church fucking shit you're one true god lover. ;)

Drink the Bong Water
10-10-2004, 06:30 PM
Thats not cool, not cool at all

Ed Ward MD
10-10-2004, 06:56 PM
I find it ironic that someone would "post a pro fascist regime voting post" on an oppressed board. These gestapo (demo/repubs) dirtballs would gladly send everyone even visiting this board to prison, or better yet, a nice hefty fine to stay out. Some are in jail for life for merely ingesting a plant that God/Nature/Evolution put on this earth for all species to use or not use at their discretion. Yet these Nazi scum are "more smarter" (man I love that line from a star trek show) than God, Evolution or Nature. Only they know what is best. Only they know that a cage, financial ruin and oppression are in the best interest of The People.

The fasci'crats of both the major parties are nothing but TYRANTS & FASCISTS. Who am I voting for? DUH. Michael Badnarik. The only Presidential Candidate aligned with the Constitution. I am voting for 'people rights'. No other man has the right to tell me what to do with the life granted to me by God, Nature and Evolution. He is nothing more than me and I am nothing more than him. No other man has the right to take God's, Nature's and Evolution's Rights from me. So throw my vote away?, you say. ROFL, Roll on the Floor Laughing, I will vote for Right, Rights, Peace, Property and Prosperity. To do other is to promote the current tyranny in cowardice. I'd rather 'poop' on my vote, eat it and die, than vote for either of those 2 nazi'crats.

Ed Ward, MD
http://thepriceofliberty.org/ward.htm

Torog
10-11-2004, 03:07 PM
thats pretty amazing that your that devoted to God. oh my God dude you hard core. your hardcore , you must really love that God (phrase edited for content) you're one true God lover. ;)
Yup,I love God and His Son,Jesus Christ...and I'm devoted to both.

I take it that this means,that you don't say thanx to God,before ya eat yore vittles,and you may have never told God,thanx for for yore many blessings..huh ?

I'll pray,that you wise up-before it's too late...

Peace,God bless you and yours...Have a good one ...Torog

Torog
10-11-2004, 03:10 PM
Thats not cool, not cool at all
Howdy,

Do you mean Sedater's inexcusable profanity..or that I'm being politically incorrect-in your world of liberal,secular pc'ism ?

Just curious...

Have a good one...Torog

kuulbns
10-11-2004, 03:49 PM
Hey there, I just wanted to say that I am a born again Christian..BUT,..I do not preach or pander to others. It's not my place to judge. We are taught to show respect and love (yes love, even if it sounds corny to some) for others. If you haven't compassion for others how can you call yourself Christian? Normally I don't discuss religion or politics but some of your points are quite interesting.
Mr. Bush says he is against stem cell research because it destroys human life. Contradictory to that he sends our troops to die. The number of Americans without health care has skyrocketed. Prescription prices are out of control so that many cannot afford the medication they need even if they can get in to see a DR.
Now,.. I am not for abortion, that is just my personal belief but,.. There are hundreds of thousands of frozen embryos in fertility clinics that will either be detroyed or used for research. Stem cell research holds promise for the millions of people suffering nuerological disorders and/or spinal cord injuries.
I'm not going to make personal attacks on the candidates. I will say that since Mr. Bush has been in office the economy is in the toilet, we're at war, and the rest of the world is on fire(lol).
So Toroq is this bad leadership or just a sign that the rapture is coming, Hmmmmmmmm?

Sedater18
10-11-2004, 05:42 PM
I take it that this means,that you don't say thanx to God,before ya eat yore vittles,and you may have never told God,thanx for for yore many blessings..huh ?

I'll pray,that you wise up-before it's too late...
you're right. I don't thank god before I eat and i don't thank him for my many blessings. I don't believe in god and if god was real then he is an enormous asshole for all the bullshit he lets happen when he could stop it all without ever moving his hand, but he doesn't. He just stands by and watchs babies get their heads cut off and a little girl watch her brother get killed while tutsis shoved her fathers severd penis into her mouth and laughed. Did you not remember about what was happening there while you sat down to a nice big breakfast with your happy children and thank god for how nice he is? A father is beating and raping his 12 year old daughter, Andrea Yates drowns her 5 children in a bath tub from youngest to oldest. The 7 year old was the only one who realized exactly what was happening and his mommy chased him around the house until she caught him and dragged him kicking and screaming into the bath tub where she took his life. What would jesus do? Watch. I'm not at you for being religous, that doesn't have anything wrong with it in most cases. I am mad at god for all of the preventable horrors that happen in the world because it makes for good stories. Don't preach to me to respect a god that doesnt exist because I won't. I stopped believing in imagenary friends when i was 6...how about you? If I am wrong, when I'm in hell and you get to heaven, you tell God that Grady Davis thinks he's one sick fuck.

kuulbns
10-11-2004, 08:45 PM
Hi Sedater! I would never tell you what to believe, just was saying, don't think it's right to go off on a speel about being a Christian when you don't walk the walk. If you're going to down others you should take a look in the mirror, (got a mote in your eye Toroq?). I do not believe in this war, but I do back our soldiers. I think we should have been in Rwuanda(?spelling?) years ago but they have no wealth for us to exploit. Anyway,...lol,.. that's it,.. I'll shut up now!

Euphoric
10-11-2004, 11:25 PM
thats pretty god damn amazing that your that god damn devoted to god. oh my god dude you god damn hard core. OMFG your hardcore god damn it, you must really love that god damn mother fucking church fucking shit you're one true god lover. ;)

best post ever!

Torog
10-12-2004, 02:17 PM
Howdy Sedater..

What you and alot folks don't understand,is that God ain't around to stop bad things from happening..bad things happen because of the choices that folks make..and that is what God will judge us for..don't blame God for the bad things..blame those who are responsible..hold folks accountable ,for the choices they make-God gave us free will-so that we can choose our own path..when the time for Jesus to return happens,all the evil will be dealt with..so make the right choices and do unto others as you would have them do unto you..and stop blaming God for the bad things people do-by their own choice.

Have a good one ...Torog

Ed Ward MD
10-12-2004, 02:47 PM
My mistake. Won't happen again.

Agree with others, your best posts are the ones not seen.

Ed

Euphoric
10-12-2004, 02:52 PM
toerag is a bot! he must be...humans cannot synthesize such mindless drivel naturally, it takes the latest in Bo-Ring technology (a sub company of MindWash detergents) to produce such marvels. :D

PiercedPipehittin
10-12-2004, 06:23 PM
so we can thank god for good things. and pray to god to help us. but when shit goes wrong....sorry people, im not stopping bad things from happening. so if we stop blaming bad things that happen on god, which i dont do, i know its the people, but wouldnt we also have to stop blaming good things on him too?

PiercedPipehittin
10-12-2004, 06:30 PM
i also wanted to respond to something in the beginning of this thing. i realize kerry isnt the best candidate ever, but almost anyone is better than the useless, retarded, dumb fuck, hillbilly, religious nut, war junkie god damned!asshole that we have now. if that piece of shit wins (i mean buys and steals) another election, then i hope god is real, and i hope that bush burns for eternity for the things he has done. for the sake of the country, for the sake of the many innocent people dead and dying in iraq, for the sake of the globe!, and for the love of jesus please end the tyranny. no more years!

sawleaf
10-13-2004, 12:05 AM
Howdy Sedater..

What you and alot folks don't understand,is that God ain't around to stop bad things from happening..bad things happen because of the choices that folks make..and that is what God will judge us for..don't blame God for the bad things..blame those who are responsible..hold folks accountable ,for the choices they make-God gave us free will-so that we can choose our own path..when the time for Jesus to return happens,all the evil will be dealt with..so make the right choices and do unto others as you would have them do unto you..and stop blaming God for the bad things people do-by their own choice.

Have a good one ...Torog


Well said Torog! Why do people blame god for bad things??? Most people don't thank him for the good things? Why are people so fast to blame god and not the devil or themselves. We humans are responsible for all the bad, not god. When's the last time you heard someone say "wow the devil is fucked up for causing those kids to die"??? Why are most anti-religious people I meet very unhappy people??? If you know the answers cool, if not I won't preach. :)

Ammie
10-13-2004, 12:32 AM
thats pretty god damn amazing that your that god damn devoted to god. oh my god dude you god damn hard core. OMFG your hardcore god damn it, you must really love that god damn mother fucking church fucking shit you're one true god lover. ;)
sedater ur cool and all but that was just uncalled for u should treat people like that if u know it bugs him u shouldnt delibertaly say all this to piss him off thats just fucked up!! :mad:

Ammie
10-13-2004, 12:34 AM
Well said Torog! Why do people blame god for bad things??? Most people don't thank him for the good things? Why are people so fast to blame god and not the devil or themselves. We humans are responsible for all the bad, not god. When's the last time you heard someone say "wow the devil is fucked up for causing those kids to die"??? Why are most anti-religious people I meet very unhappy people??? If you know the answers cool, if not I won't preach. :)


AMEN saw ;)

smokey
10-13-2004, 12:45 AM
i dont believe in god myself but if i did i would be askin the question "if he wants us to thank him for all the good why the fuck cant we blame him for all the bad. its give n take in my eyes
im not sayin people shouldnt be religious but i really cant understand how anyone can believe there is an all-superior being tht created everything. but then i am very scientifically minded. oh n sedater just cause u dont believe in god no need to go around talking shit to ppl who do believe thts out of order one thing i dont understand tho is in one of your posts u say u are mad at god for all the bad shit in this world.
how the hell can u be mad at someone u dont even believe in ????? come back when u make sense

Kombucha
11-01-2004, 09:46 PM
Torog, are you saying you agree with Bush and his wars?
If so, why do so many American Christians say they believe in the Bible... as long as it works for them. "Thou shalt not kill" is totally ignored if its a foreigner that might be dangerous or a someone convicted of a crime.

psychocat
11-03-2004, 01:54 PM
Torog is so full of shit he doesn't have a head just a colostomy bag , war for peace is an oxymoron you idiot , wars carried out in the name of the Lord (a lord who is supposedly peace loving????) are just bullshit too.
One question... If you took all of the unwanted religious fanatics in Europe and all the dissidents and sectarians, then mixed them all together , throw in a good measure of paranoia and what do you get after 200 years of interbreeding ?????
America of course.

pisshead
11-03-2004, 02:26 PM
the thing people have to understand is, torog can call himself a christian all day long, but once he starts promoting anti-christian ideas as wholeheartedly as he does, he is no longer a christian.

he also calls himself a conservative, yet he supports and votes for one of the most socilastic/liberal presidents (bush) that this country has probably ever seen. he's done more to sell out our sovereignty to global bodies than any other president. our borders are wide open, he wants amnesty for anyone who can get here, gun control, bigger government, more spending, more dept. of education, more welfare and foreign aid, the FTAA as the pan american union...the list goes on.

torog is a liberal who doesn't know what it means to be conservative.

but because he puts that R next to his name, torog worships him. he listens to words, and doesn't look at peoples' actions.

torog, although he claims to be, is not a christian conservative, and neither is bush. bush is a blueblood elite from maine, a tory, an anti-american puppet put into power to further destroy the country and grow the anti-american sentiment around the world, and torog cheers it on.

we are literally mid 30's germany right now and you could write an encyclopedia on that topic alone. bush's granddaddy even funneled nazi money through his banks and built up the nazi war machine. his family are literally nazis.

Kombucha
11-03-2004, 05:58 PM
I don't think either side is being that fair to each other.

Pisshead, I dunno what you're saying. Bush is a liberal AND a nazi? He certainly isn't liberal, or a nazi really.

pisshead
11-03-2004, 06:37 PM
if clinton was a liberal, and bush only expands and further funds clinton's liberal policies...i don't know what else that makes him.

you can be liberal and a nazi. in the end, socialism and fascism is tyranny, dictatorship. you have the same end from both.

bush comes from a line of nazis. prescott bush was fined under the trading with the enemy act for funneling nazi money through his businesses and banks. that's well documented, and gets a lot worse than that...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Kombucha
11-05-2004, 03:36 PM
But being liberal isn't extreme right wing, it is moderate left wing, whereas facism is extreme right wing.

Kombucha
11-05-2004, 03:37 PM
Being liberal is moderate left wing, whereas facism is extreme right wing.

pisshead
11-05-2004, 03:54 PM
but in the end, extreme liberalism and fascism give you the same thing, tyranny. they sound a little different, but look very much the same.

socialism leads to fascism. socialism concentrates the wealth into the hands of a few, and then transfers the wealth and governmental powers into the hands of corporations, who then rule. we're almost there, we've still got a little way to go.

they're 2 arms of the same beast. both sides work against us to achieve tyranny. it's basically divide and conquer.

if we went back to what the constitution says, this kind of thing can't happen. but the constitution has been treatied and legislated away and too many people affiliate themselves with a party, which the founders warned us would be detrimental to the republic.

it seems they were right.

Kombucha
11-05-2004, 11:06 PM
I think you need to be careful of worrying too much about historical laws. I know history is very important but things have changed a lot since the late 1700s. If the French kept their ideas from time of the writing of the constitution they'd still be beheading people for seeming like they liked kings too much or saving food.

pisshead
11-06-2004, 03:47 PM
tyranny is tyranny. you'd be surprised how what we're seeing today is almost identical to the tyranny of hundreds and thousands of years ago.

Kombucha
11-07-2004, 10:52 AM
Well it seems to me that in America you have a choice of right wing or slightly more right wing. I would have thought a liberal person would be a nice break. I doubt many people are going to get too left wing in America so I wouldn't worry about Communist tyranny.

pisshead
11-07-2004, 05:31 PM
well, the country has been moving 'left' for the past 100 years with our federal reserve system and all of the socialist and welfare programs and treaties and trade deals that have stripped congress of a lot of authority and given it to the president.

the same way germany's republic was destroyed is basically how we are.

we are not far right at all. there are very few real republicans left in our congress that stand for small, limited government with checks and balances and separation of powers. they're all for big government, selling out sovereignty with trade deals, open borders, gun control, abortion, nafta...all of the 'left' issues they all agree on.

check out ron paul's website. he's a true conservative.

in the end though, it's tyranny. whether it comes from the left or right. socialism leads to fascism, they work together to enslave people.

i might have already told you, but go to the thread i have on page 3 called most of alex jones' video to watch...or something like that...and watch road to tyranny first, then matrix of evil. it's so hard to explain to people that there really is a sinister plot to destroy our constitution (and your magna carta) and give us a world socialist dictatorship. the plan is to disarm the world, and they have bad things planned for the world. all of history shows leaders disarm their entire populations because they have bad things planned, it's naive to think otherwise. and in our case, it's no different.

i urge you to look into this some more before you totally dismiss it. although as the tyranny becomes darker and deeper, i think you'll begin to understand what i'm talking about. it's what people have been talking about and writing about for a while now.

Kombucha
11-07-2004, 07:55 PM
You say you aren't far right, but maybe that's just to what you're used to. America is definitely on the right side of centre. As for the magna carta, its from the 1200s, it means nothing today. I will look at those videos when I next get access to broadband.

pisshead
11-07-2004, 11:51 PM
it's the ideas contained within the documents that's important, not when they were written.

but check out the road to tyranny and matrix of evil and police state 3.

Kombucha
11-08-2004, 05:17 PM
I know what you mean but the Magna Carta was only really designed to restrict the king's power to help the nobles, not normal people.