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420mory
07-31-2006, 01:27 PM
Pot church takes a hit

S. Arizona couple face prison for what they say is religious use of marijuana
By Stephanie Innes
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 07.09.2006

PIMA ?? The Church of Cognizance, which has quietly operated here since 1991, has an unusual tenet ?? its worshippers deify and use marijuana as part of their faith.
Until federal authorities charged them with possessing 172 pounds of their leafy green sacrament earlier this year, church founders Dan and Mary Quaintance say they smoked, ate or drank marijuana daily as a way of becoming more spiritually enlightened.

But now, with added conspiracy charges, the Quaintances face up to 40 years each in prison in a case they call religious persecution.
Federal prosecutors say religious freedom does not exempt the use of illegal drugs. The Quaintances say it does. They also say a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision allowing a religious group's use of a hallucinogenic tea containing a federally banned substance should nullify the charges against them.
The couple is scheduled to go on trial in Las Cruces, N.M., on July 18, though defense lawyers are asking for a delay.

"They have a bona fide religion and the only marijuana they utilize is for the practice of their religion," said Mary Quaintance's attorney, Mario A. Esparza. "Our Constitution in the United States guarantees that freedom of religion, and the Quaintances are being punished for the very thing the Constitu- tion stands for.

"They did not distribute to anyone outside of the church and they never profited from it," Esparza said.
The Church of Cognizance, which leaders say has 72 monasteries located in members' homes nationwide, has a simple motto: "With good thoughts, good words and good deeds, we honor marijuana; as the teacher, the provider, the protector."

Dan Quaintance, 54, says the church has 40 to 50 members in Arizona, but cannot estimate how many there are nationwide. Leaders say members must be 18 to join, and he says the average age of worshippers in Arizona is 35. Dan, who preaches at weddings and funerals of church members, says the church does not sell its sacrament or proselytize.
"Laws exist to protect people from injury and we've injured nobody," said Dan Quaintance, an Iowa native, Vietnam veteran and retired welder who identifies himself as his church's "chief cognoscente."
"Marijuana is the averter of death," he said. "The energy and spirit that is in marijuana is God. You consume the plant and you consume God. You are sacrificing your body to the deity."

The Quaintances were arrested Feb. 22 in Lordsburg, N.M., just seven days before the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a small religious group based in Santa Fe that combines Christianity and American Indian practices could use hallucinogenic tea in its ceremonies. The tea, called hoasca, contains dimethyltryptamine, or DMT, known for its hallucinogenic properties.
A variety of religious groups representing millions of members filed briefs supporting O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal, or UDV, and its use of hoasca ?? among them the Arizona Civil Liberties Union, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the National Association of Evangelicals and the Union for Reform Judaism. Some supporters likened banning the tea to a federal ban on sacramental wine.

Graham County Sheriff Frank Hughes says that in his 10 years on the job, he's never had a complaint about the Quaintances, who live in a small rectangular home in the sparsely populated rural community of Pima, about 90 miles northeast of Tucson.

Their home sits on a four-acre property that's dotted with old vehicles. Alongside their house is a wall made out of tires, which the Quaintances say eventually will form the boundary of an outdoor chapel.
The couple's 31-year-old daughter, Zina; her husband, Tim; and their three children have a home on the property, as do the Quaintances' 28-year-old son, Dennis, and his wife, Vanessa, and their son.
Their home bears no resemblance to a traditional church, inside or out. Yet the Quaintances call it a monastery and are adamant that the church they founded together is a sincere, legitimate faith ?? on par with any mainstream religious denomination.

A tapestry of Bob Marley smoking a large joint decorates the front hallway, and inside, the couple has a few handmade pipes, some of which have won ribbons in the glazing division of the Graham County Fair. Most of their pipes and other sacramental accessories were seized when authorities searched their home March 3, they say.

The Quaintances do not grow their sacrament but, rather, say they rely on donations of it, which they pick up from church "couriers." That's what they say they were about to do when they were arrested.
They smoke the marijuana or sometimes blend it into a milk-like drink, saying it helps them to become more enlightened and in tune with the universe. Until they were arrested, the Quaintances say they'd smoked or ingested the plant every day of their 33-year marriage, even before they formed their church. Both were marijuana users when they met, and they credit the plant to helping their marriage survive.

"It makes you better at what you do, enhances who you are. It is the most beautiful plant on Earth," said Mary Quaintance, 51, a homemaker from Northern California who married Dan in 1973, when she was 18. They met while Mary worked as nurse's aide in Chico, Calif., and rented a room from Dan's parents.

Dan Quaintance, who grew up in the United Methodist faith and once was president of his church youth group, says finding marijuana helped him finish high school, later kick a heroin addiction and get through acute pancreatitis.
It was during his illness that he began researching marijuana's use among ancient cultures, and he started to think about forming his own church. As he reread the Bible, he believed many passages that referred to a leaf, tree or plant were talking about marijuana.

"Religion is basically putting your faith in what you rely on," he said. "Jesus started his church because of what he believed and learned."
He filed a "declaration of religious sentiment" on behalf of the Church of Cognizance with the Graham County Recorder's Office in 1994, though Dan, his family and other members say the church dates to 1991.
Services at the Church of Cognizance aren't scheduled. According to the Quaintances, members call the monasteries and arrange a worship time, which typically includes using marijuana and listening to sermons by fellow cognoscenti that talk about peaceful existence.

"Dan and Mary are two of the most beautiful, wholesome people," said Daniel Jeffrey, an enlightened cognoscente in Puna, Hawaii. "We're not involved with herb for any kind of profit gain. If you tell people that, their mind just can't grasp it."
Still, Charles Haynes, a senior scholar at the Virginia-based First Amendment Center, says any group seeking an exemption to the nation's drug laws, even for religious purposes, has a "hill to climb."
And he says the federal government is likely in a better position to win against the religious use of marijuana than it was for the hallucinogenic tea case, given the prevalence of marijuana and the federal government's concern about a drug problem in the country.

The hallucinogenic tea is difficult to find and reportedly doesn't taste very good, Haynes said, noting the same is true for peyote, which also is a federally banned substance.

A federal exemption for peyote exists when it's used for religious practices by members of the Native American Church. In Arizona, people using peyote who aren't members of the Native American Church also are exempt as long as the peyote is used for a "bona fide religious purpose" in a manner that doesn't threaten the public. But there are no such exceptions for marijuana.
"Marijuana is difficult, even if they have a sincere religious belief," Haynes said. "The federal government has already successfully fought efforts to get a medical exemption."

The U.S. Constitution contains no legally recognizable definition of religion, but courts still can apply a test of sincerity, said Jeremy Gunn, director of the Freedom of Religion and Belief program for the American Civil Liberties Union, which supported the UDV church.

If, for example, a group of prisoners calling themselves the Church of Cabernet and Filet Mignon argued religious belief as a reason to be served wine and better food, the government would have a right to question the sincerity of their theological belief, he said.

"The UDV case did not open the floodgate," he said. "The government needs to show why it makes sense to apply the drug laws in that circumstance. In the UDV case, the hallucinogenic tea is honestly a traditional part of the religious practice."
The office of the U.S. attorney for New Mexico, David C. Iglesias, prosecuted the UDV case, and also is prosecuting the Quaintances. His office declined to comment on a pending case.

The Quaintances have no history of criminal convictions in Arizona, where they've lived since 1986, but both have prior convictions for marijuana possession in Washington state, records show. Dan Quaintance says he also has a 1974 conviction from California for driving under the influence and spent 30 days in jail for that offense.
The Quaintances spent two weeks in a New Mexico jail after their arrest this year and, as part of their court-ordered release, must have regular urine tests to ensure they aren't using any marijuana. Both say that living without their deity for the first time in more than three decades is extremely difficult.
The complaint against the couple, which was amended, includes two other defendants ?? Timothy Jason Kripner, 23, of Tucson and Joseph Allen Butts, 48, of California.

The revised complaint raised the stakes in the case, adding conspiracy charges and more than 220 pounds of marijuana. Dan Quaintance says Kripner and Butts are both certified couriers for the church. Kripner was traveling with the Quaintances when they were arrested, and authorities say Butts was involved in a conspiracy with them to distribute marijuana.
"They may take Dan and Mary down but they will never take the church down," Mary Quaintance said.

● Contact reporter Stephanie Innes at 573-4134 or at [email protected]. Go to www.azstarnet.com/faith for other recent religion coverage.

source: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/related/137087.php

the image reaper
07-31-2006, 06:17 PM
surely there is no surprise at that 'religious' scam being taken down ... " it's OK for me to rob banks, officer, my 'church' condones it " ... ;)

jamstigator
08-01-2006, 12:44 PM
Ah, but it could be very interesting, seeing as it is already permissible for members of a different church to legally ingest peyote, and it is permissible for some other church to import some chemical from South America that they use in their religious ceremonies. Why them, and why those products, but not these people and cannabis?

If they fight this all the way, then either the courts will have to reverse the outcomes they've already ruled on, or they will have to allow these people to go free on the same basis as they allow the other religions to use THEIR drugs of choice.

I believe this will be quite interesting, because of the conundrum the courts have created for themselves with their previous rulings.

I don't think the analogy you used is applicable, as these people smoking pot harms no one, whereas bank robberies do. I believe the gist of their argument is likely to be: "You allow these other religions to use peyote and whatever that South American drug is, but you disallow us access to our own god? Isn't that discrimination? Why do you treat our religion differently than others? Should we not all be treated the same?"

Web Smoker
08-02-2006, 03:50 AM
I want to join that religon

Myth1184
08-02-2006, 06:11 AM
its not a Church that ingest Peyote, but instead a Native American ritual. There is a difference.

Captain Hanks
08-02-2006, 08:05 AM
quite a long post and didnt read the entire thing... so forgive me if this was asked/said above, didnt bob marlery go to court for smoking the ganja and won for similar beliefs, the rastafarian religion is based off of christianity to begin with

god said he has given us every green plant and herb bearing seed for meat, he also prophesised that some meats would be banned by those speaking lyes and hypocrisy agaisnt it

god even commaned moses to make a holy annointing oil made with cannabis included in the ingredient, he said it would be poured on the heads of aaron and his sons, all the high priests along with kings and queens, and that it would be for the generations to come

Pepper
08-02-2006, 05:22 PM
http://www.eacourier.com/articles/2006/07/31/opinion/opinion03.txt

Reader believes cannibas used in Old Testament

Editor:

This is in regards to Bonnie Dykes?? letter ??Local woman disgusted by actions of lawbreakers.? From the tone of her letter, I am sure Bonnie considers herself a righteous Christian.

In response to her rallying against a plant, I would ask her who she thinks created cannabis? And what of God??s Covenant of Genesis 1:29? [??Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed;?.]

Does she think God was too naive here? Or does Bonnie feel she and others have the right to override God??s gift to the rest of humanity who might choose to use certain plants prohibited by the laws of man?

On the subject of cannabis, like the history of the Zoroastrian religion, the Bible may have been influenced by cannabis. . . . remember Moses and the burning bush that talked to him. According to a number of academic sources in the original Hebrew and Aramaic sources for the texts, that bush commanded Moses to make a holy anointing oil that contained cannabis, under the Hebrew name keneh bosem.

Although it is little known to most modern readers, marijuana and other entheogens played a very important role in ancient Hebrew culture and originally appeared throughout the books that make up the Bible??s Old Testament. The Bible openly discusses the use of mandrake, which is psychoactive, along with intoxication by wine and strong drink, so the Hebrews were more than familiar with altering their consciousness.


What will be surprising to most modern readers is the frequent use of cannabis-sativa by both the Hebrew priests and kings, indicating, as anthropologist Vera Rubin noted, that cannabis ??appears in the Old Testament because of the ritual and sacred aspect of it.?(Rubin 1978)

The Old Testament use of cannabis becomes less surprising when one considers that cannabis has been popular at some point with virtually every culture that has discovered its intoxicating properties. Hemp has ??been smoked and ingested under various names (hashish, charas, bhang, ganja, kif, marijuana) in the Oriental countries, in Africa and in the Caribbean area for recreation, pleasure, healing and ritual purposes. It has been an important sacrament for such diverse groups as the Indian Brahmans, several orders of the Sufis, African natives, ancient Skythians and the Jamaican Rastafarians.

Pointing out the wide-spread religious use of hemp throughout the ancient Near East, among the Babylonians, Assyrians, Scythians and Hebrews, as well as the early spread of its cultic use from northern Europe, to Siberian Asia, China, India, Asia Minor and Southeast Asia, the famed anthropologist Weston La Barre suggested that ??cannabis was part of a religio-shamanic complex of at least Mesolithic age, in parallel with an equally old shamanic use of soma. . . ?(La Barre 1980).

For more than 150 years, various researchers have been trying to bring attention to the cannabis references within the Old Testament.

Of the historical material indicating the Hebraic use of cannabis, the strongest and most profound piece of evidence was established in 1936 by Sula Benet (aka Sara Benetowa), a Polish etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences in Warsaw.

Respectfully,

Chris Bennett

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Sir Les
08-04-2006, 06:30 PM
The law is stupid!
They cannot be permitted to put God into prison for making and growing Marijuana in his garden!
My religion demands me to do service in the garden, with all seed given!
I must restore things, and keep them alive!
Thus Noah has reason!
And so do I!
Everything was given to humankind!
Nothing can be taken away!

the image reaper
08-04-2006, 07:36 PM
this was in today's news ... think this idiot will be protected as a 'church' also ... ???


Man Tells Court Sex With Boys is Sacred Ritual
Friday, August 04, 2006

CLEVELAND ?? A man accused of sexually assaulting nine boys with physical or mental disabilities told a judge that having sex with children is a sacred ritual protected by civil rights laws.

Phillip Distasio, who said he is the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, represented himself at his pretrial hearing Wednesday. He is charged with 74 counts including rape, pandering obscenity to minors and corrupting another with drugs.

"I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years," he said in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Wednesday. "The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."

Distasio said some of his congregants are among the victims in this case. Distacio, of Rocky River, is accused of molesting two disabled boys he tutored at his home and raping seven autistic boys at a Cleveland school for special-needs students where he was a teacher's aide. All but one of the victims were under 13. ... and so on ...

shit like this gives me a headache .... :(

jamstigator
08-04-2006, 08:57 PM
No, that won't be protected. The reasons are obvious: he's not just doing something that involves himself. And for all he says that children can consent, children don't have maturity to understand the consequences of their decisions as well as adults. That defense, in this context, involving others, and especially involving children, is doomed to fail.

That doesn't mean the pot church people will fail in *their* defense though.

Ironman
01-04-2008, 10:50 PM
Questions. How many people does it take to make a church in the eyes of the law?
How many people does it take to make a church in the eyes of GOD?
Why can the Catholic church use an addictive drug, well known for promoting violent behavior in its' users, and another church can't use a nonaddictive drug, well known for promoting, peacefull, and compassionate behavior in its' users?
I am sooooooooooooooConfused.:confused::confused::confu sed::):):)

mfqr
01-05-2008, 01:30 AM
its not a Church that ingest Peyote, but instead a Native American ritual. There is a difference.

Well, not exactly. Both the reasons are for spiritual enlightenment. Either way, it's based on the same principle.

8182KSKUSH
01-05-2008, 03:02 AM
this was in today's news ... think this idiot will be protected as a 'church' also ... ???


Man Tells Court Sex With Boys is Sacred Ritual
Friday, August 04, 2006

CLEVELAND ?? A man accused of sexually assaulting nine boys with physical or mental disabilities told a judge that having sex with children is a sacred ritual protected by civil rights laws.

Phillip Distasio, who said he is the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, represented himself at his pretrial hearing Wednesday. He is charged with 74 counts including rape, pandering obscenity to minors and corrupting another with drugs.

"I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years," he said in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Wednesday. "The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."

Distasio said some of his congregants are among the victims in this case. Distacio, of Rocky River, is accused of molesting two disabled boys he tutored at his home and raping seven autistic boys at a Cleveland school for special-needs students where he was a teacher's aide. All but one of the victims were under 13. ... and so on ...

shit like this gives me a headache .... :(

Hey I think I get where you are going, you are right.
Really there is a lot of dancing around what needs to be said,
"Marijuana should be available for individual personal use for anyone over 18, PERIOD
It really is irrelavant if you do or don't have a medical condition, or some religious reason. I really hate always hearing people needing some "qualifying" reason or circumstance just because they want to smoke pot. I think that I am like that to a degree and I hate it. If we are not careful there will be a day soon where only "certain" people can use marijuana if they choose instead of it being the way it should be, any adult can if they choose to use it legally period. I think the issue really is deeply a liberty issue first and foremost. There is a lot of political attention on the "medical" issue, and for the government if they can just keep the issue in that context really it is a good thing. It will be "debateable" up and down all day every day. The question of whether or not it infringes on very basic liberty to be happy, and so long as you do not trample anyone else's liberties, then you should be able to pursue that "happiness". Am I wrong here? Jesus I need to go smoke a cigarette!@

marijuanavillebilly
01-06-2008, 09:36 PM
surely there is no surprise at that 'religious' scam being taken down ... " it's OK for me to rob banks, officer, my 'church' condones it " ... ;)

if the bank was in the church, fine.
outside of the church you are not on church ground, thus the church defence is null.

Pepper
01-06-2008, 10:00 PM
News (http://www.firstchurchmagi.org/Modules/NewsManager/ShowNews.aspx?NewsID=111)


On Monday, Jan. 30th, 2007, the California High-Way Patrol returned 32 ounces of top grade medical marijuana to a founding member of Eddy Lepp's church. The marijuana was taken the previous Friday during a traffic stop (the car had only one license plate instead of two). The CHP officer confiscated the cannabis and the driver's medical recommendation, and did not provide any receipt for the medicine or medical recommendation.

On Monday, the Church founder and the Rev. Tom Brown appeared at the CHP office and demanded the return of the seized marijuana. Rev. Brown cited recent decisions that limit the CHP's authority regarding medical cannabis seizures on state highways. He also cited the current lawsuit involving Eddy's church and a statement by Gov. Arnold Schwartzenegger that the California National Guard and CHP are not allowed to violate the law regarding medical AND religious use of marijuana.

Until that point, the CHP officers had stated that they would probably never get their medicine back, if it could even be found. They tried to make it seem like it was cut and dried (as indeed the weed had been...).

But upon learning that the officers involved in the current confiscation could easily be added to the ongoing lawsuit, they promptly produced the 32 ounces of marijuana. Surprisingly, they had to weigh the pot because they hadn't done that. Yup! They supposedly were keeping the 32 ounces as "evidence", yet had not followed standard protocol for processing evidence.

In fact the weed had never even been entered as evidence, no receipt had been issued (until they returned it). So it's pretty obvious the CHP had intended to keep what they stole from a legitimate medical marijuana patient and church founder. After all, there were never any charges filed in the incident. Just a confiscation of high class weed.

This is a HUGE victory for both medical and religious use of marijuana. The CHP in this area will sure think twice about seizing marijuana from medical or religious use people!

bigfatpothead
04-06-2008, 01:26 AM
nearly all the precursors that led to our program are mentioned here.
If there is no victim then there is no crime.
when you force a child to do something there is a victim. When you smoke pot, NO VICTIM!!!!

Rev. Roland A. Duby
Brothers For Mercy (http://www.brothersformercy.org)