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dryst
07-31-2006, 05:26 AM
just curious but u really think they monitor this site?
The Colonel
07-31-2006, 05:27 AM
If they did, i dont think they are going to waste time tracking some one down because of something they posted on a cannabis website.
BabyFacedAbortion
07-31-2006, 05:35 AM
stfu.
Binzhoubum
07-31-2006, 05:37 AM
if they do watch the site, they can't prove anything based on what people post here. they would have to catch you in the act just like they bait and hook those pedophiles they catch on the internet.
:smokin:
crudemood
07-31-2006, 05:38 AM
if they do watch the site, they can't prove anything based on what people post here. they would have to catch you in the act just like they bait and hook those pedophiles they catch on the internet.
:smokin:
yup just posting isnt enough evidence to search or arrest you.. plus this cops sitting here checking out this site would be a waste of time, im sure they have quotas to reach and I doubt they're going to get it from this site :thumbsup:
dryst
07-31-2006, 05:40 AM
another question, say they have a search warrant and they search your house....they find nothing but they take ur computer and check it for shit...and they find i been posting on here?
crudemood
07-31-2006, 05:42 AM
as far as i know, posting on a forum isnt illegal or enough to get you thrown into jail for..
dryst
07-31-2006, 05:42 AM
oh and baby face....u know what? fuck u little faggot i dont need ur fuckin negitivity...go flame someone eles? Thx and have a nice day :D
BabyFacedAbortion
07-31-2006, 05:45 AM
no i mean, stfu i don't want to get all paranoid about the fuzz on cann. lol I don't mean it negatively friend
MaryJaneScott
07-31-2006, 05:45 AM
oh look... there's one now...
i think we're safe though.. he looks rather busy at the moment ;)
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The Colonel
07-31-2006, 06:00 AM
:D ^^^
birdgirl73
07-31-2006, 06:00 AM
I love it!!! A doughnut-eating cop in our very midst!
Wonder if he has the munchies???? He doesn't look like he's wanting to bust anyone.
Dang, I want a doughnut in the worst way. . . .
dryst
07-31-2006, 06:12 AM
oh sry about the whole name callin thing then :P
wonder what gave the cop the munchies to get a donut in the first place...*cough*:D
hossua34
07-31-2006, 06:26 AM
Yes, they are on this site. Maybe not the department in your city or state, but some LEOs are out there.
Computer technology, unfortunately, leaves an electronic footprint that is (usually) admissible in court. Police CAN, with the proper paperwork, collect very traceable IP addresses from sites like these and use them in their investigations. It is done ALL THE TIME to bust child pornographers, and while I support that application, there is always the chance they could use it to bust growers through sites like these if things got slow enough. This worried a lot of people after the shutdown of Overgrow...
Good news is, police in the U.S. have better and more "sure" things to deal with than going after people who post on sites like these. In their eyes, we're small fishes. If you were a rich drug kingpin, would you post about your life on this site? I think not.
Anyhow, if you're paranoid like me, just stick a well-worded and clear disclaimer in your signature. It's hard to grant a search warrant with a legal cock-block like that at the bottom of an incriminating post.
Binzhoubum
07-31-2006, 06:32 AM
I personally don't think that a disclaimer would do anything if they wanted to bust you.
It's kind of like having a meth lab in your basement, but having a big sign on the door that says, "This room is for entertainment purposes only, and as such, nothing in this room should be considered admissable in a court of law."
Well, there has been police activity here before, thats how i found out about this site, it was in a local news paper.
Weather they are on these days we dont know, and unless they tell us we wont know.
You'd think they'd have better things to do, like real policing.
luvbud
07-31-2006, 04:59 PM
exactly!! most pot smokers are not criminals or even dangerous why don't they go after real criminals like rapists and murderers? leave us alone:confused:
the image reaper
07-31-2006, 05:38 PM
legally, disclaimers mean NOTHING ! ... if you're that paranoid, buy an "Anonymizer" program that falsifies your IP address ... about $25 a year ... personally, I think marijuana users should publicly DEMAND legalization, march in the streets to demand your personal civil rights, and be prepared to sit out the consequences, ... instead of sitting in a dark room with the shades pulled, toking up, and fearing the Law ... :smokin:
dejayou30
07-31-2006, 05:46 PM
police have better things to do than monitor phone calls and the internet for people talking about smoking weed. i hate when i talk on the phone about smoking weed and people are like "DUDE WTF COPS CAN HEARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!" yeah maybe they can, but they most likely aren't.
orangeman
07-31-2006, 06:40 PM
I really dont care if they are or not.
Rouier
07-31-2006, 06:48 PM
What's an LEO?
cannabis campbell
07-31-2006, 06:49 PM
police only have ONE priority
http://www.unitedwaysb.org/Donuts.jpg
of course they're here...count on it! but it takes one in your immediate area who knows exactly where you live before it'll matter on a personal level. but you'd better believe they're here if for nothing else than to keep tabs on the lingo and culture...and to gather evidence for why it should never be legalized!
Big Calhoun
07-31-2006, 07:54 PM
It all comes down to this...DO NOT post anything specific that you wouldn't want someone to know. If you were growing, would you run and tell your nieghbors? Most likely not...so you shouldn't post your picture on a cannibas word with obvious references to where you live.
Not pointing to a specific situation, but if you understand (or take the time to understand) the law, then alot of situations can be prevented and avoided altogether. It really does fall down to common sense.
But in answer to the OPs question...no doubt. THere are various local, state, and federal agencies that monitor this board and others that are similar...at times. I hardly think Agent. FatAss is sitting in his chair, ready to pounce. But...if someone leaks enough incriminating information, it will find its way back to the appropriate agency.
420mory
07-31-2006, 07:55 PM
Leos? no problem, bribe-list of 2006:
50$US/per person :D
BabyFacedAbortion
07-31-2006, 08:02 PM
The only difference between having a disclaimer online vs. real life is that online anyone can lie, and it's basically saying "HEY I'M LYING" while in real life you'd probably have the proof right there.
orangeman
07-31-2006, 08:03 PM
What's an LEO?
LEO = Law Enforcement Officer
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:12 PM
Based on the law of large numbers, youd better believe they are here and monitoring. Why not? Think about this: If YOU were a cop, say DEA, since they are on a federal level, and they have more resources, and say you were a smart agent, and somehow "stumbled" onto this site, wouldnt you look at all these people posting pictures of home setups, illegal activity-indicating posts, and think to yourself "im going to find out if this person is in the U.S. (im sure there is a way, they are the U.S. Govt. and if a computer nerd at home with not as many resources can do it)". And if they are, how much harder would it be to find our what physcial address their posts are being sent from? Now true, you wouldnt want to this with everyone that posts a picture of a seedling, but you might be inclined to put forth more effort on the BIG ones, the ones with pictures of 100 capacity cloners, and 3 or more HPS systems.
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:13 PM
1000Watts that is
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:16 PM
your little disclaimers wouldnt be a magic potion for keeping them from further monitoring, or looking into you to determine whether or not you are worth the legal efforts on their part. Remember, investigations can take months to years. And as far as investigations go, agents can do what they have to do to enforce the law. This includes lying to you as a part of playing a role which would accomplish said objective.
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:18 PM
Disclaimers MAY OR MAY NOT keep that particular piece of evidence from being used against you. And typed words would probably not hold up in court. But they could use the typed words to find you, and then use subsequent evidence against u.
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:19 PM
And for those of you who think they have quotas and better things to do, catching drug manufacturers and/or distributors ARE their better things to do. U might be thinking a street cop, but not a dedicated agent, division, department, or agency. Like the Drug Enforcement Agency. There is a war on drugs in the U.S. That is a reality, you cant be in denial that "they have better things to do"
Thetrippinhippie
07-31-2006, 08:19 PM
just be smart, fellas:pimp:
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:21 PM
thats the bottom line, trippin hippie, u know whats up
magicks
07-31-2006, 08:21 PM
if they wanna catch us the gota catch us first
snikitysnak
07-31-2006, 08:26 PM
You guys need to do your homework ! You can't get busted for talking about ANYTHING ! IT's called the 1st ammend baby! We talk shit all day long, can say we smoke, shit, snort or anything else. I got busted once casue I had some in the car , but we can talk all day long so everyone needs to relax.
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:28 PM
Right, but the point is by you expressing your self, you are drawing attention to urself
GatzBurst
07-31-2006, 08:30 PM
Read what i said about that particular piece of evidence. It wont be the official nail in your coffin, but how many times have peoples mouths gotten them in trouble, despite First amendment rights?
Fabolous
07-31-2006, 08:30 PM
You guys need to do your homework ! You can't get busted for talking about ANYTHING ! IT's called the 1st ammend baby! We talk shit all day long, can say we smoke, shit, snort or anything else. I got busted once casue I had some in the car , but we can talk all day long so everyone needs to relax.
lol when did obeying the amendments mean anything, i mean hell the government showed us they by tapping lines.
Big Calhoun
07-31-2006, 08:51 PM
That's what I was alluding to. Your actions get you in trouble more than anything us. To snikitysnaks point, yes, we can talk about this until we're blue in the face and the boys in blue can do nothing about it. We do have a right and freedoms to discuss anything.
But on the flipside...look at these pics people post up, holding bud upon bud upon bud...face not hidden, nothing. Mind you, some people are smart about it, but some people just don't care. To an LEO, it's not rocket science (anymore) to dig through posts and start culling information....in this post you said you're growing, then in another post you show a picture of your set up in a closet, then in another post you mention it's upstairs in the unused bedroom, then in another post your show pics of your harvest, then later you show where you keep your stash.
Guess what...in a single post, this hypothetical person has given nothing away. But in doing some simple research, those circumstances above equal a warrant, baby. That's why I said, don't post anything you wouldn't want someone in real life to know. If you do, you have just in effect told the world...
I think everyone should do this one experiment...google for your user name and see what comes back. Recognize any of the boards that come up? Recognize any of the messages? Is anything you found something you would tell any one in a face to face/'real life' situation??? Think about it...
Garden Knowm
07-31-2006, 08:53 PM
USE condoms!!!!!!!!!!
even if you live in BFE...
iloveyou
You guys need to do your homework ! You can't get busted for talking about ANYTHING ! IT's called the 1st ammend baby! We talk shit all day long, can say we smoke, shit, snort or anything else. I got busted once casue I had some in the car , but we can talk all day long so everyone needs to relax.
time to wise up bud...ask the 6 atlanta guys busted a couple months ago for talking terrorist shit on the net...all talk but nevertheless, they're now in jail. talkcrime is already a reason to go to jail...thought crimes are next!
it all comes down to common sense and never should anyone try to downplay reasons for caution...
and thanks gk, helpful as always...
Oblio
08-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Not all cops are bad. Some are extremely helpful to our cause.
M.G. is soooo correct. Many of the threads might not be usable to get a conviction...but they can be used to show the level of maturity of cannabis users.
Here is a senario that could happen:
You have threads showing your garden, other threads showing your pimped out ride, and a few more threads talking about your town or school. You now have given all the information needed (for anyone) to find you. Child molestors use this criteria to find victims. If there is only 2 schools in your town, they have a 50/50 chance knowing where you will be when school ends each day. Unless you are a drop out or ditched.
I think they would be looking more for people bragging about buying large amounts to resell and for those bragging about LSD, DMX or whatever designer drug that is the fad at this time. They can also use the site to tell how available drugs are in different geographical areas by peoples post.
www.leap.cc <~~must read site!
I have read many post like "Man, XXXX had the best grows, whatever happened to him, anyone seen him lately?" or "Why is everyone leaving?" It is possible people stop posting because they got busted? yes it is. Could it be from their activity here? who knows.
If your computer is taken during a bust and they see you "auto" log into (a) cannabis site and find pics of your standing infront of your plants, or find post of you telling a story that is exactly related to an event they are investigating then your lawyer will not be happy. Also, if they read your post and see you have a complete comtempt of the law it could adversely effect what kind of punishment they ask for you.
The paper work for a simple bust is lengthy. This could involve tying up officer(s), detective(s), prosecutor(s), judge and possibly a jury for many many man hours. Most officers would rather be out finding violent offenders, dealers selling or moving large quanties, child molestors, and gun runners.
Anytime you have an encounter with LEO and you act disrespectful your situation has just got worse! So bite your tongue...do what ever you can to be polite. This could be EXTREMELY hard, but it has to be done.
once again www.leap.cc
graph
08-01-2006, 08:43 PM
Have you ever been on a cop forum?
I have.
You know, I'm sure the majority of cops on this site aren't lurking for people to catch, they're recreational smokers who need a place to chat openly where they won't be judged. Cops are people too, ya know. Some of them are pretty cool.
With all the murderers, rapists, perverts, and meth peddlers out there, I don't think they're trying to catch a kid with half a nug. Not saying you, but I mean, look at this site. The people with huge grows are smart and keep their mouth shut.
Oblio, you are a smart man, thanks for the post. A close friend of mine is a member (I guess that's what you'd call him) of leap.
GatzBurst
08-05-2006, 03:15 AM
Yep snikkity, what about those peoples' rights?
Love Street
08-05-2006, 03:58 AM
bunch of paranoid stoners...
there not after your gram or 2, there looking for people with some serious crop
so unless you post pictures of the cannabis forest you have in your back 40 acres dont worry, youll be fine
GHoSToKeR
08-06-2006, 12:40 AM
No.
Garden Knowm
08-06-2006, 07:28 AM
DID I mention that condoms are good to use.. even if you live in northern canada... ?
graph
08-06-2006, 07:31 AM
What are you talking about? People in Northern Canada don't have sex, they propagate through a fertilization sequence. The female lays her eggs, then a male comes by later and fertilizes the eggs. Didn't you ever go to school?
Cause I didn't.
alexisonfire xo
08-06-2006, 07:40 AM
I think one is trying to bust me right now, actually. I'll make a thread about it. Be on the look out.
Its a Plant
08-06-2006, 07:15 PM
I'm not the least bit worried. If a cop wants to bust my ass for possession of a few grams a pipes, that's his problem. However, if I were a serious grower, I would never disclose any personal information on here.
SuperTorch
08-06-2006, 11:37 PM
Police departments go with what produces results. Local agencys wouldn't waste their time on this site as its mostly just chat and they are pulling people over on a nightly basis that have drugs in their car that are a lot harder than Marijuana. Yes maybe there would be a lurker on at a "NATIONAL" computer crime resorse agency that may try to see if he can land a worthy DEALER. But small time personal users have ZERO to worry about. For one the police don't know that you may have a medical license to smoke it. 2. You may be in a state that has decrimalized it. Even if the location in you USER CP is in a state that has tougher laws on possession, they would not know that you may have been in that state but travel to a decrimalized state a lot(say you have family in both) and when you on here your comments reffer to when your in that state. Going after 1 user here would cost $10,000+ and they may net that you had a joint in your house. A $10,000 sting on the streets net 10-25 low level street bust. There are no local agencys lurking on these boards as they have WAY more important thing to delegate their funds and time to. For one as time goes on the Judicial system and Cops look at Marijuana as less and less of a big deal. They know know it doesn't kill even 1/100th of what alcohol does, but the laws still say its illegal. When a cop sees a joint in a car he pulls over its kinda like in his mind to toally ignore it as the judges don't want to deal with single joint paper work(again its time and money) the user tends to think WHEWWWW he didn't even see or smell the weed and that they got lucky when in fact he was well aware but just saved everybodys time by acting as if he didn't see it. So if they are blowing those small amounts off why would they come here after chaters that would be a bitch to locate and in 1 year may net one guy who had a joint or two. Bottom Line you are 100,000 times more likly to get busted driveing in your car than chating here, which makes chating nothing to worry about AT ALL.
yabatab
08-07-2006, 12:34 AM
I highly doubt that the police are looking
on a cannabis site to bust people. They
would look a bit stupid if they busted
some ones door down and it turned out
all that person was posting was stock
photos found on the internet. Just in
case they do look thru these forums this
pic is for them.
birdgirl73
08-07-2006, 06:47 AM
Hey, my Okie friend! I believe you may be somewhere in this thread, and when you get to this, let's visit. I've been wanting to talk to you again, but you're not online much!
i doubt that they could build a case with anything on here or would bother to say there is someone we believe who lives in the general area of X who may somke pot somtimes... my source is an online message board...
now taht just sounds silliy
MaryJaneScott
08-14-2006, 02:37 AM
What are you talking about? People in Northern Canada don't have sex, they propagate through a fertilization sequence. The female lays her eggs, then a male comes by later and fertilizes the eggs. Didn't you ever go to school?
Cause I didn't.
can you draw me a diagram please?
and thank you
love.
flamingskullballs
08-14-2006, 03:30 AM
your all all all terribly wrong...there are onloy about 5 people on here that arent cops.,...me, and you, and your friends on here...thats it...the rest are cops
you should be afraid...very afraid
graph
08-14-2006, 03:51 AM
can you draw me a diagram please?
and thank you
love.
I would, but then I'd offend about half the people on this site. And as we all know, canadians are best known for their short tempers.
Garden Knowm
08-14-2006, 06:35 AM
can you draw me a diagram please?
and thank you
love.
How about I just give you a courtesy deposit?
You could be the first in Northern Canada to experience direct deposit...
iloveyou
flamingskullballs
08-14-2006, 07:00 AM
the question is not if there is a police officer on the boards...the real question is WHO is a police police officer on the boards...
Jacop
08-14-2006, 07:55 AM
BE more worried about carnivor.. the fbi computer scanner everything that gets sent out of your computer to your ISP....
yabatab
08-14-2006, 08:19 AM
I would, but then I'd offend about half the people on this site. And as we all know, canadians are best known for their short tempers.
They are also known for those round pieces of ham called
canadian bacon.....LOL:dance:
ReferMadness
08-14-2006, 10:32 AM
as many people said before you shouldnt give out any information that you feel will benifit you in the worst and not post your pic's or pic's of what your growning nor where you live its not smart at all
daima
08-14-2006, 11:23 AM
another question, say they have a search warrant and they search your house....they find nothing but they take ur computer and check it for shit...and they find i been posting on here?
you're too paranoid
MaryJaneScott
08-14-2006, 01:02 PM
the question is not if there is a police officer on the boards...the real question is WHO is a police police officer on the boards...
The question is...
can you be still? completely and totally still?
no wait...
the question is "how do they get the caramilk in the caramilk bar?"
and which came first... the chicken? or the egg?
oh and of course:
If you tied buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropped it from a height, what would happen? (Warning!: don't try this at home)
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 08:29 PM
and which came first... the chicken? or the egg?
the egg.... two other species of bird (dont know which ones) in-bred together to create the chicken ;)
graph
08-14-2006, 08:33 PM
The question is...
If you tied buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropped it from a height, what would happen? (Warning!: don't try this at home)
Depends on the height. From pretty far up, it makes a huge mess.
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 08:36 PM
Depends on the height. From pretty far up, it makes a huge mess.
yeah cause buttered toast ALWAYS lands buttered side down :cursing:
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 08:43 PM
just curious but u really think they monitor this site?
yes, i clicked on this thread a few minutes ago and my computer crashed, freaky
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 08:49 PM
yes, i clicked on this thread a few minutes ago and my computer crashed, freaky
whats that got to do with the price of cheese on a monday morning? :p
graph
08-14-2006, 08:53 PM
yeah cause buttered toast ALWAYS lands buttered side down :cursing:
Yeah, and cats tend to explode when they're dropped from skyscrapers.
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 09:01 PM
i was replying to the first post asking if the police monitor the site, i thought it a bit freaky that when i clicked on this thread my pc crashed
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 09:03 PM
i was replying to the first post asking if the police monitor the site, i thought it a bit freaky that when i clicked on this thread my pc crashed
lol i know dude, its called a joke :thumbsup:
thebeancounter41
08-14-2006, 09:05 PM
i was replying to the first post asking if the police monitor the site, i thought it a bit freaky that when i clicked on this thread my pc crashed
What?The govt crashed your computer?LOL I think you've been reading too many conspiracy theory novels.
If it crashed it's more likely you have an old comp or a virus from surfing porn sites.
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 09:10 PM
lol i know dude, its called a joke :thumbsup:
cool! so stoned i didn't see the joke:stoned:
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 09:15 PM
cool! so stoned i didn't see the joke:stoned:
lol np, its kinda a local joke here anyway, if someone says somethin that dont really got nothin to do with the current conversation, alot of (immature:p) ppl would say that..... good thing i aint that immature :p :rolleyes:
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 09:16 PM
What?The govt crashed your computer?LOL I think you've been reading too many conspiracy theory novels.
If it crashed it's more likely you have an old comp or a virus from surfing porn sites.
i was just joking i thought it would sound funny, it looks like i'm not the only one who doesn't see a joke :stoned:
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 09:20 PM
lol np, its kinda a local joke here anyway, if someone says somethin that dont really got nothin to do with the current conversation, alot of (immature:p) ppl would say that..... good thing i aint that immature :p :rolleyes:
yeah i just thought it was funny to say something like that when someone talks about police.
i don't care about cops when it comes to dope i live in holland, there's not much they can do here.
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 09:25 PM
yeah i just thought it was funny to say something like that when someone talks about police.
i don't care about cops when it comes to dope i live in holland, there's not much they can do here.
cool, cops are total ass freaks here, they can stop and search u just for lookin suspicous, many times that has happened to me, i must have a shifty look about me lol
MaryJaneScott
08-14-2006, 09:30 PM
cool, cops are total ass freaks here, they can stop and search u just for lookin suspicous, many times that has happened to me, i must have a shifty look about me lol
you don't look suspicious...
they are just looking for an excuse to look up your kilt dear.
love.
is
YOU
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 09:37 PM
cool, cops are total ass freaks here, they can stop and search u just for lookin suspicous, many times that has happened to me, i must have a shifty look about me lol
i hatted that when i lived in england, wondering if the cops could smell it on ya.
you can carry upto 5 grames in holland :stoned:
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 09:46 PM
i hatted that when i lived in england, wondering if the cops could smell it on ya.
you can carry upto 5 grames in holland :stoned:
yeah but i heard they cant stop and search u in the street, that true?
and MJS, why would cops (mostly male ones) want to look up my kilt?? maybe they are looking for a concealed weapon maybe?? i dunno :rolleyes:
MaryJaneScott
08-14-2006, 09:48 PM
and MJS, why would cops (mostly male ones) want to look up my kilt?? maybe they are looking for a concealed weapon maybe?? i dunno :rolleyes:
i don't know. but i think we should get to the bottom of this.
sir,
please turn around and put your hands on the hood of the car.
amsterdammed
08-14-2006, 09:55 PM
yeah but i heard they cant stop and search u in the street, that true?
and MJS, why would cops (mostly male ones) want to look up my kilt?? maybe they are looking for a concealed weapon maybe?? i dunno :rolleyes:
yeah that's true, they have to arrest you and search you at the station, which for dope is too much hassel
Wesley Pipes
08-14-2006, 09:56 PM
i don't know. but i think we should get to the bottom of this.
sir,
please turn around and put your hands on the hood of the car.
oooooo i LOVE a girl who takes charge :)
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