Help!!!

[sdhall36]

I'm really new to growing - does this look any good and is it to early to tell if it's male or female?

[bobbydabud]

that is way too early to tell and u need to put it into 12/12 to start flowering

[locomark]

Well Sdhall36,

Yes, you can relax cause it looks fine. Remember you can never have too much light or fresh air. You want big buds you need a big root ball which means big pots.

Loco

[yabatab]

Looks good but if that is tin foil id think about an alternative
reflective material Mylar or flat white, if it is Mylar, my bad.

[Garden Knowm]

Hey Hall,

Is that a bag seed?

The genetics look very week.. Maybe it is just the light you are using.. The good news is, the plant is healthy.. but... it is weak and spindly looking.. the top leaves should be bigger...


make sure you don't over water.. the roots need air!

Iloveyou

thanks for the picture and please keep us posted..
cheer!!!

iloveyou

[sdhall36]

thank you for all you kind help and comments, here is a latest pic - I am using 4x150 watt compact flourecents and 4x60 watt of those horrible daylight bulbs.
Yes it is tin foil, prolly bad.
Is it natural for the bottom leaves to die off like that?

[Kaparski]

"thank you for all you kind help and comments, here is a latest pic - I am using 4x150 watt compact flourecents and 4x60 watt of those horrible daylight bulbs.
Yes it is tin foil, prolly bad.
Is it natural for the bottom leaves to die off like that?"

When u say daylight bulbs you mean flourscent right? because noraml incandesant lights (the regualr bulbs) are terrible for growing.

[sdhall36]

yeah those are the ones plus 4x inneficient 60 watt daylight ones also, (got those before I could get the cfls. (150 watt pure daylight CFLs)
The seed is supposed to be skunk #1 from holland - maybe I worry too much it's just the bottom leaves are dying a little.
I'm giving them 24hours of light and have a mild breeze cooling the lights and plants.

[stinkyattic]

It's normal for bottom leaves to die off as a response to not enough light. So get better light and the bottom leaves will live longer. Eventually they do die off, but it shouldn't be so early.

[Kaparski]

hmmm, first off, i have 2 CFL on my plants and there growing nicely and very compact. The reason being is that the lamps are 1-2 inchs from the surface of the leafs....It seems that your plants light source is too far away since the internode lengths are long. Put the lamps much closer and you will see a great difference in growth. Get a desktiop lamp ($10), there great and very adjustable.

[sdhall36]

I've lowered the lights now and it's taking off - getting a thicker stem too, I've got them on 24hrs - should I reduce?
And is it still too early to sex?

[Garden Knowm]

I would wait a bit longer..

: )

[Racerx]

i would wait a bit longer too...but for information purpose, that is about the size that I just flowered mine at. 6-7 nodes. Took about 2 weeks of 12/12 for everything to show sex. Theyve grown considerably since then. So if your trying to keep them very small, you might want to go to 12/12 soon.

[sdhall36]

I won't try to flower just now, will keep on with the light as some of the younger plants haven't caught up - this is the best plant I am monitoring (just my luck it's a male) anyway, Im gonna give a weeks more 24/24.

I have the space so I don't mind if they get tall - it's the sexing that will kill me, no idea - I have six plants and one is gonna die I'm sure.

Anyway say hi to Sheila for me, (she/he says hi) she/he says hi to you all - they love you and I do too or I would have never haven gotten so far!

Ya I'm fucked - latest pic anyway...

love and light

[Garden Knowm]

The size is GOOD.. it is the health of the pant that concerns me.. You want your plant to have GREAT vigorous growth when you switch from veg to flower..


iloveyou

[sdhall36]

cheers Knowm, but it/they aren't dying are they? - it's just (the plant in the pic) a bit spindley because I had the lights too high at first, all are starting to bush out serious now. :) thanks to all your kind help on here.
Will post another pic later, honestly all seems good so far okay I mat not get max yeild but any is good for a novice right?

He who dares wins x

[Garden Knowm]

definitely not dying... the stem looks like a very healthy GREEEEEEN...

i am glad to hear that she is growing a BUSH...

ilove you

i look forward to the pictures..

cheers

: )

[sdhall36]

Okay here it is - think it's a female? Still too early to sex?

It's the best plant of prolly a bad bunch - but some are catching up, damn I had the lights too high!!!

Could I go to 12/12 now for a small yeild... sould I? Or wait more? Does sex only appear when near flower?

Arrrg this it doing my head in lol x

Love and light

[Garden Knowm]

Hi Hall.. She is staring to look BETTER! COngrats..

I suspect, she is a he.. : (
sorry

iloveyou

I would wait another couple days before flowering..
can you take a picture that includes your light and your plant.?

cheers

love
love
love

[sdhall36]

Hi Knowm - here are some more pics as you requested (lights etc) they are a bit crappy cos I took them from above so you can get some idea, there are two more plants missed off the pic.

To the far left of the shot, two more plants, one doing great the other grows leaves then the others die (not good).

So I have five plants (six if you include the dying one) - now are you sure that main one (others catching up rapidly) - is a male :(

My mate says that it's too early to tell still - grrrrrrrr

Peace and love

Hall

[Garden Knowm]

Fantastic..
Those are CFL's correct ?

Get THE CFL's less than 1 inch from your plants.. You will need to adjust the lights nearly every day because the plants will grow......

Lower some lights inbewteen the plants ....

and add 1-5 more lights..

Flower them tomorrow!!!!

yes tomorrow

iloveyou

[sdhall36]

okay they are on 12/12 now, on a timer and I have lowered the lights even more.
I have 4x150 watt CFL's and 4x100 watt Sodium on them

[Garden Knowm]

Are you using COMPACT HPS bulbs?

: )

[sdhall36]

no they are just Low enegry normal bulbs (household) 4 x 100 watt (bad?) - and the other four are "pro-lite Daylite Helix Compact Florescent" Model 6400K Helix 220-240V / 50Hz (even distribution of 6400k light 360º).

2nd day of 12/12 now - they be growing tall man!!!

Also the one that was dying is perking up a little now, given 5-5-5 pnk general purpose fertilizer.

How long do you think it will take to flower/show sex for them? Will prolly have to kill some males - waaaa, I love them all!

love and light Knowm (thanks for taking me under your wing) x

[jamstigator]

Replace the four 100-watt incandescents with some cool CFLs and your plants will do even better, AND it will cost less on your electric bill. Incandescent lights don't help plants much; they're 'tuned' for the human visual spectrum. They generate more heat than they do light that plants use.

[sdhall36]

okay - a pic, I'm flowering now (well just started to do so) - they are loving it, not dying at all now, harsh growth everywhere.

This is exciting isn't it?

Where are you... help me we need to sex soon!!!!!

arrrg! 5-5-5 NPK

The lights are okay so far, lack of phosphorus causes blue leaves, lack of nitrogen makes leaves die, and lack of potassium makes the plant slow down... is this right?

anyway they are good to press - now how long? to flower? (the pH is 6.6 using pH papers) - will be good after next flush.

First gro and... fuck I'm doing okay - sativa/indica seeds from Holland 50/50 KC Brains seed bank.

Any input?

[sdhall36]

No Jamstigator - they are energy saving ones and I heard that plants need "warm" light (sodium) for the flowering time + with the CFL's so near now they will bloom - no good?
I'll take a pic tomorrow (day four into flowering) - we might see some sex then perhaps, I think I see a white hair from the top plant, looks exciting!

[sdhall36]

you are wrong this is a female!!!!

day three into flowering and oh yes - white hairs

Karma - lol best plant and a female - you were wrong Knome, but I forgive you x

[Garden Knowm]

Replace the four 100-watt incandescents with some cool CFLs and your plants will do even better, AND it will cost less on your electric bill. Incandescent lights don't help plants much; they're 'tuned' for the human visual spectrum. They generate more heat than they do light that plants use.


I AGREE 100%...

[Garden Knowm]

SWEET!! i am so glad that I am wrong!!!!!!!!!!! and they look fantastic too!!!!!!

congrats.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!

please take a picture of the lght bulbs in question.. Incandescent bulbs are useless for growing..

iloveyou

[sdhall36]

okay these are the bulbs I am using....

thank you for your king compliments, you made me smile

[Garden Knowm]

LOOKS fine..

FYI
Envirolites are available in 2 models: Red 2700k (kelvin) and White 6400k (kelvin)



Red 2700k lamps are used mostly for flowering.
White / blue 6100k 125w lamps can be used for propagation and vegetative growth.

iloveyou

[sdhall36]

Thanks for the light info will get some of the 2700k ones, didn't know you could get those.

Anyway here's a pic of the one we thought was gonna be a male - see the white hairs?
I have another pretty big female now as well (she has shown herself!)

Had to take a male out this morning though :(

so that leaves three plants left, one is dying for sure - out of the other two one is very sativa looking and the other looks more indica, no signs of sex yet on those though.
They are skunk #1 seeds 75/25 Indica/Sativa from KC Brains seedbank.

How much yeild do you think I'll get - the plants are about 14-15 inches tall right now.
12/12 Light cycle - just showing sex - any ideas?

[sdhall36]

Sorry forgot pic doh! - sorry for the repost

Thanks for the light info will get some of the 2700k ones, didn't know you could get those.

Anyway here's a pic of the one we thought was gonna be a male - see the white hairs?
I have another pretty big female now as well (she has shown herself!)

Had to take a male out this morning though

so that leaves three plants left, one is dying for sure - out of the other two one is very sativa looking and the other looks more indica, no signs of sex yet on those though.
They are skunk #1 seeds 75/25 Indica/Sativa from KC Brains seedbank.

How much yeild do you think I'll get - the plants are about 14-15 inches tall right now.
12/12 Light cycle - just showing sex - any ideas?

Love and Light all

[jamstigator]

Hope for 0.5 grams per watt of light. That's real watts, not 'equivalent watts', read the fine print on your CFLs, somewhere it will show what real wattage they are. Be very happy if you exceed 0.5 grams/watt, and don't be disappointed if you don't yield that much. The 'holy grail' is 1 gram/watt, but that's if everything goes perfectly, and I doubt many achieve that. It's better to be a pessimist and happily surprised than an optimist and totally disappointed. I have never reached 1 gram/watt, personally, although I am edging closer. I'm always happy to reach half that, and consider anything beyond that as a bonus for doing a good job. ;)

[Garden Knowm]

NICE PHOTO.. they look a million X's better!

congrats

[sdhall36]

Thanks for the light info relating to yeild jamstigator, and the compliments knowm!
Okay today it was all become clear, I took a male out the other day and now the dying one was a male two so now I have 4 females into week two of flowering!
I have 1000 "real" watts on the plants so hoping for maybe 1oz from all four, what do you think?
I'll definately have enough to try a joint won't I?

I'll post more pics in a week from now, or as developments occur, anyway here are pics of my four girls, Sheila (who we though was a guy), Janet (the little one), Helen (the tall sativa looking one) and Jenny (all alone in one corner of the grow bag).

Love and Light - Hall

[sdhall36]

I know I said a week, but I can't belive how fast they are growing!!!

Main plant (sheila) - hairy little miss, she is two feet tall now, this flowering stage is crazy....

How long now?

Would Orchid Bloom Formula - NPK 33-100-100 be okay to add now?

You know you are all coming to my party for this don't you?

Love 'n Light

Hall x

[sdhall36]

I smoked an immature bud from Sheila last night, waaay too early! Crazy stuff though, I won't do it again.
Even that worked though, it's been wet here (athritus) and I'm gloomy.

Patience Hall, Patience!!!!!!!

Found a way to make my pics smaller in filesize too, so sorry about the HUGE 1meg previous pics.

Love, Hall

[L3G10N]

According to the information i read on skunk #1, Your plants need to flower for 8 to 9 weeks.

[sdhall36]

Legion

I know!!!! - Damn, please forgive me - I won't do it again!

went looking for a pocket microscope today, and also watched that Grow Cronic Vid with the "green guy"
Hydro looks real cool but expensive to set up.

They will be ready in five and a half more weeks, as it will be three weeks this coming wed. (like you said 8-9 weeks - completely correct!) - but I'm not kidding that tiny little bud was a bit trippy and was good for me.

Sorry Sheila, and Hi Legion - nice to meet ya, hope all is well with you, are you growing too?

Hall

[PsyTrance]

Hey Hall nice plants - same strain as mine I think (Skunk No.1?) - am on my first grow at 3 weeks into flowering (pic attached of the younger ones - the oldest is 43" and towers over them :)

I'm using two envirolites (red spectrum for flowering). Certainly helps to get them growing!

They're on 12/12 now and just about to go to sleep (already read mine a bedtime story) so talk quietly please:D

Regards

Psy

[sdhall36]

Trance!!! - Nice to meet you.

Lovely! Well done they look awesome, and yeah similar to mine - indica/sativa.
Great gro man, hope we are good for Crimbo!!!

Yes skunk #1 - quite a virulent strain huh?

If I get ½ Oz. I'll be so happy!!! - Take care and stay safe, your friend Hall x

[sdhall36]

Okay it's been three weeks now and I see the main cola forming on Jenny!!!

5-6 weeks to go... *sigh*

I'm not going to post as often now until real changes are taking place, but will try to keep posting on this thread until the end.

Kudos to all my friends on here, and the people who have helped me - qdavid, latewood, jamstigator, knowm, etc. you know who you all are.

Hall x x x

[qdavid]

Thanks for mentioning me, sd. Beautiful girls. Congrats. I'm sure they'll be good 4 ya.

[zephyrinne]

Hey Hall... just stopping in to say your grow is looking pretty good for a first time. I'm plannin' on starting my first one soon and reading through your grow log, as well as many others, has taught me alot. I actually like seeing what mistakes people make so maybe I can avoid those when I start. Only a few more weeks and you'll be able to enjoy those little beauties!

Good luck with the rest of the grow! :)

[sdhall36]

Hi Zephyrinne, nice of you to say hi, and thank you for the encouragement - cool! Always nice to meet new people.

Three days later... and already new developements!

The pic shows it.
1) Small THC crystals forming on the top leaves now.
2) Main cola grown an inch.
3) Top leaves pointing upwards - now Zandor says (I read somewhere) "that this means they are getting all the nutes and all is well"

I (however) have noticed that they only do this just before I say good night to them though, call me crazy it's like they know it's bed time and they are trying to get the last bit of light (even though the lights are only 2-3" away!)

Awesome!!! - Hall x

[sdhall36]

crap - posted the unlabeled pic... doh!

sorry x

[yabatab]

Nice, looks good sdhall36. Seems like you are really enjoying the
grow. Keep your sprits high and your plants will feel your vibes :D

[sdhall36]

I am enjoying the grow Yabatab, I try to give 100% in most things - and thanks for the message, I truly believe you are right!
By the way, nice avatar - I love H.R. Geiger, awesome artist! - Alien was one of the first horror/sci-fi movies I ever saw (as you prolly know he was the artist for that.)
Kudos - Hall x

[sdhall36]

Main Cola on Jenny, I'm seeing powdery (THC?) crystals on the top leaves now big time!!!
Four to five more weeks to go.

Mega (and other words of excitement!)

Hall

[jamstigator]

Woohoo, I see buds! You're entering the hard phase now, if you don't have anything to smoke. Those buds will just keep looking better and better, so you'll have to be strong and resist the temptation! The way I got through that time was by telling myself that if I leave it alone, it'll be ten times as big later. ;)

[sdhall36]

He He - Jamsigator, I have a remedy for that - we are going to Amsterdam for a few days!!!
I'm sure the babies are hardy enough to be with out me for a few days - we fly out on the 25th for a few days.
Not just for coffee shops - it's quite historical too, should be cool.
Love you man - Hall x

[Garden Knowm]

TAKE PICTURES!!!!

happy travels!!!

[sdhall36]

Garden Knowm! - of course I will, dopefiend recommends "Barney's Breakfast Café" and some others.
I like photography. (I'll make a seperate post when we come back) I'm afraid there can't be any pictures of Jan and I, and our devilish good looks though... (for obvious reasons), but it will be nice to share some of the sights.
Great to hear from you again, hope all is well.

Love 'n light always for you - Hall x

[Garden Knowm]

: )

iloveyou

[sdhall36]

This is "Sheila" - my main plant, her main Cola is getting quite big now. She's not as "sugary" as Jenny yet, I imagine she will mature later. Having said that it's still 3 weeks (maybe? to go) til harvest.
I will post another pic. before we go to Amsterdam - I have learned a lot on here...

1) Skunk No.1 (#1) is a very forgiving strain and good for a first time indoor grower - though not a fast growing/flowering strain.
2) Never stop reading/asking advice.
3) Talk to your plants and love them!

Hall

[Garden Knowm]

purrrrrty

[sdhall36]

Last pic, as promised, before we go - Sheila's Top is getting more sugary and some hairs turning brown, hope she will be okay 'til we get back.
The other girls should be fine.

Will post some pics for ya Knowm when we get back.

Have a great week all - Hall x

[BobBong]

Why to the You and the Em...spells YUM!

Lookin' good sdhall36!

[MadMax1124]

Im new to all this but i just started growing plants about 1 week in, i have 3 15 watt florecent lights and a fan over a box covered in tin foil. I dont know if im doing it right. I herd that weed doesnt die from water so i have been watering it alot. theres 4 in one pot and i dont know when to move them. What should i do and also im using top soil. Im a nube help me out please... i will get some pics

[Garden Knowm]

IT is very very easy to over water an MJ plant.. I would say most if not all first time growers kill a plant due to over watering.. you should not be watering more than once every 3-10 days.. depending on plant size, temperature, grow medium, pot size.. etc

I love you..

Get BIGGER CFLs.. like 42 watt cfls

YOU should start your own thread..

iloveyou

with pictures

iloveyou

[sdhall36]

Too much to say, very awesome place - incredible people.

I forgot the camera more times than I took it out anywhere, here are some pics though.
1) Hotel window view (two great bars - like long corridors) you could smoke in the "Flying Dutchman" (well we did anyway).
2) Amsterdam is historical and littered with museums. I mean look at this one... we can't possibly go in can we? Can we??? - We can, and we will!!!! (very trippy)
3) One of the many bars
4) Some things bought from coffee bars - left is "Purple Haze" right is "White Haze" (smoked a lot of that, it was nice). And some space cakes.

5) The plants are okay - took a quick snap of Sheila again - more brown hairs on her buds/etc. I checked the trichromes and they are half milky half clear right now so I am still waiting.

Hope you've all had a great week - Love and light all Hall

[elway07]

Hey Hall,
What strain is that you are growing? It loks very similar to one I am growing...Just curious. If you have already stated in this thread, my apologies in advance! Glad you like Dam... I loved it there... I hadn't smoked in years before I went there the first time long ago.... Long story short, I was to get ill from the white widow, and not until after being ill did i realize I was in the wrong restroom. Guess I couldn't read the signs too well.
Anyway I loved it. Went to a lot of places, and trust me, my brother and I have galore stories about our trip there!!!!
Glad you had a good time...

[iarbaman]

Hi Hall, for how long have you been flowering your babes? And at what stage the buds started getting some weight on, cause my babes are looking the same for the past week or so!
Sayonara!

[Garden Knowm]

welcome back.. thanks for the photos!!

[sdhall36]

Hey knowm! Ty - yeah we had a great time, already planning another trip. Perhaps for Feb next year:)

elway07 - yeah I did mention it in this thread (shit it's long now) - it's skunk #1. I read that it was quite good for a first time grow, and it is! I've learned a lot now though.

iarbaman - I'm into my eighth week of flowering (just) now, and it was at least 5-6 weeks before I saw nice sugary trichromes and the buds started getting noticably bigger every 2-3 days. Sayonara!

Janet looks almost ready, nearly all her trics are cloudy and a few are amber, will prolly harvest at the weekend all being well.
I've sneaked a few buds during the grow (who hasn't?) and it's pretty good, so it should be amazing after drying and curing properly - all being well!

Love Hall x

[sdhall36]

Okay it's over - I'm gonna harvest today (the trics are all milky and some are amber), then a week or so hanging then more time curing.

I've been drying a few tiny "test" buds for a few days, pic included (3.5g) - it's very potent stuff as good if not better than some of the stuff I had in Dam.
I'm sure it will be much better after drying and curing properly too!

Again - thanks fo all your help on here, I did it yay!

Peace out - Hall x

[sirsmokesalot]

ouuuuh.

looks the chronic shit my friend.

Ive been wanting to grow for ages, and was wondering if you could sum up the lighting/nutes you used throught the grow, just for curiousity and laziness sake...