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umd
07-27-2006, 12:29 PM
Question: I'm traveling intercontinentally, are seeds detectable by drug/bomb dogs?

Seriously, i'm terrified to death.

umd
07-27-2006, 01:08 PM
AWESOME!!
thanks.

umd
07-27-2006, 01:21 PM
Next Friday my friend and I leave for 3 weeks
London
Amsterdam
London/Paris.

Hot soup baby.

orangeman
07-27-2006, 01:33 PM
seeds contain no thc so they are legal in most countries (including the us) but they will prolly search you for weed cuz that is pretty suspicious...as long its just seeds, you should be fine:rasta:

Wrong...seeds are illegal in the U.S. one sprouted seed is considered a full flowering plant rather they know what sex it is or not....:mad:

umd
07-27-2006, 01:53 PM
erm, I hope to buy seeds to grow when I come home.
I'm not sure what stage they're in at that point.

orangeman
07-27-2006, 01:58 PM
yes...if the seed has begun germination...but i think hes talking about just seeds out of your bud...right?

Even that is illegal in the U.S. this is one of the reasons I wanted to get out of this suck ass country.

umd
07-27-2006, 02:04 PM
So...should I hide it in shampoo or something? I'd rather not spend all the money to have it mailed to me, you know?

orangeman
07-27-2006, 02:10 PM
So...should I hide it in shampoo or something? I'd rather not spend all the money to have it mailed to me, you know?

Your better off having it mailed to you. Atleast when it's sent to you you have the chance of the FBI or who ever just takin the seeds (if it's in a low ammount) rather than incarcerate you for actually having the seeds on you.

umd
07-27-2006, 02:16 PM
Dang. I really wanted to get started right away.
I know there's a post on ideas to get past customs. Would those work with seeds as well?

orangeman
07-27-2006, 05:57 PM
im sorry i have to correct you...but marijuana seeds derived from a mature plant are legal only if they have not had any means of preparation or begun growing...sprouts are considered plants and are then under state law...there are seed banks that ship to almost anywhere in the world because those are just seeds...i just looked at like 12 google results about seed legality in the us...the seeds are suspicious but not illegal, however, they are grounds for suspicion of cultivation including raids and searches (remember your fourth amendment right!):rasta:

ps
i agree with you completely that our government and all the ignorant people in this country do suck a huge right wing nut:thumbsup:

Well good info. Now I only have one thing to say..when ever I get busted by the cops and they search my pocket and I have a sack-o-seeds from the bud I was smokin they better not take me to jail for them or I'm coming after you lol..

p.s. I dont smoke seedy bud :mad:

umd
07-27-2006, 09:48 PM
Wow, great info.

If I get caught at customs, i'ma be pissed...

I think i'll just order online, seems safer/lazier. :)

ronjohn420
07-30-2006, 02:39 AM
ok, let me settle the score........

orangeman, i see youre correct in alot of your posts.....

let me add a point to the team...

Seeds are illegal in the USA under the Drug Cultivation and Manufacturing laws. It also falls under the CSA as marijuana its self.

1; Drug cultivation and manufacturing laws make it a crime 1) to grow, produce, and possess certain plants and other naturally occurring elements used in the production of unlawful controlled substances, such as cannabis seeds and marijuana plants;


1 - Marijuana is defined under the CSA to include all parts of the cannabis plant and anything made therefrom, except for the mature stalks, fiber produced from the stalks, sterilized seeds, and oil from the seeds. 21 U.S.C. 802(16). Marijuana has been found to contain at least 483 separate chemicals, among which delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta9-THC) is the primary psychoactive component. 66 Fed. Reg. 20,041 (2001).


1 case of a seizure; Washington v. Chrisman, 455 U.S. 1 (1982) (officer lawfully in dorm room may seize marijuana seeds and pipe in open view)


That being said, if ordering from a foreign country, the most that will happen is a seizure at customs. Legal action is usually not possible due to the possibility of vendettas. Even so, it would not warrant the costs to open a investigation, track the paper trail (which creates a much larger hurdle if using a Money Order/Cash), and then prove ones guilt.

So, there is no question that they are illegal. If you happen to have seeds on you and you are arrested, they would constitute possession of marijuana. Hope this helps.