WARNING: GRAPHIC VIDEO - Lebanese Doctor Says 'Phosphorus Weapons' Cause Suffering

[pisshead]

those who can't handle this much freedom probably shouldn't watch...

WARNING: GRAPHIC VIDEO - Lebanese Doctor Says 'Phosphorus Weapons' Cause Suffering
Raw Story | July 25 2006 (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Lebanese_Doctor_Says_Phosphorus_0724.html)
[A note to readers: This news report, originally aired on CNN International, contains graphic images.]
CNN video correspondent, Karl Penhaul, follows a family that had been mistakenly caught in an Israeli air strike. The doctor treating the family says that there is phosphorus in the weapons that cause extremely painful burns on it's victims.

[jamstigator]

Not sure what your point is. That bad shit and mistakes happen in war? That phosphorus hurts? Um, yeah, but I think most of us already knew that.

You voluntarily advertise for rense.com in your sigline? Now, *that* is pretty amazing! You do know that the vast majority of people who know who he is also know he's an idiot and a bigot? Yep, it's true. Ah well, that's why I fought for the freedoms we have in this country: so Rense and the other idiots of the world can say stupid shit and amuse the rest of us!

[Doctor mj]

Not sure what your point is. That bad shit and mistakes happen in war? That phosphorus hurts? Um, yeah, but I think most of us already knew that.

You voluntarily advertise for rense.com in your sigline? Now, *that* is pretty amazing! You do know that the vast majority of people who know who he is also know he's an idiot and a bigot? Yep, it's true. Ah well, that's why I fought for the freedoms we have in this country: so Rense and the other idiots of the world can say stupid shit and amuse the rest of us!

The point is that war is wrong and solves nothing, And ONLY CIVILIANS GET HURT.

You do know that the vast majority of people on here thinks your an idiot and a bigot? Yep, it's true.
See how ridiculous that sounds. You cant just say Its true and its true because you say it is.

[Bong30]

The point is that war is wrong and solves nothing, And ONLY CIVILIANS GET HURT.

You are so dumb you would have to get smart, just to be stupid.:dance:



Here is one for the rest of you...........

http://www.jackshiles.com/Muslim_Humor/Your-Muslim-Daddy_jokes.html


Jams your OK with Me..............:thumbsup:

[jamstigator]

I agree that war is wrong. If it can be avoided, it should be. I am not, however, a complete pacifist. If some country decides to start lobbing bombs into America, and talking doesn't dissuade them from doing so, then you have two choices: enjoy watching your friends and family get blown up, or do something about it. That's a sad fact of life, that sometimes two groups cannot come to a peaceful solution (usually because one side refuses to), and then you get war.

For example, in World War II, Hitler didn't just roll over all of Europe, because people fought back against being conquered and having a Nazi German government instituted over their own. Yes, they could have just laid down and let the Germans roll over them, and that would have avoided war. Would that have been better? Maybe if you were white, blonde, blue-eyed, not gay, not Jewish, and didn't care about freedom.

As for calling me an idiot and a bigot, I don't really care. Sticks and stones, blah blah. And I think there are enough posts from me that you can tell I'm not an idiot or a bigot. However, Mr. Rense - he's got a posting history too, and it shows what he is just as mine shows what kind of person I am. rense.com is frequently used as a "source" (I use the term VERY loosely) for neo-Nazis and skinheads and conspiracists. And I do indeed find him amusing, as I do those who use his site as a source for anything other than skinhead recruiting.

[slowthestone]

I like white phosphorus...

its pretty nifty when ya cast a coloured light on it.

[eg420ne]

White phosphorus can also be used to make meth

[Miss Green]

Yeah it must be hard for the doctors over there to deal with this crime being inflicted upon lebannon its got to stop, Israel have no right doing this they won't cease fire nor do the Americans which if they were to say: stop it or else to Israel - they would.Its a crime and it needs to stop now!And in regards to the posting of the person talking about america being bombed look at your own government and see it for yourself - yeah 3000 people died thats sad but how many people have died in the Iraq War?Defintely way more than 3000 and how many more years is this crime going to continue for?:mad:

[GatzBurst]

it sucks to see those kids burned so bad, and unwillingly hallucinating like that. War and conflict are a part of everyday life in some parts of the world. It is weird that i just woke up from a series of dreams this morning pertaining to the Armageddon. This thread reminds me of how Jesus Christ spoke that before the coming of the end, "There will be wars and rumours of wars between nations and kingdoms (Matt.24, 6-7; Mark 13,7-8; Luke,21,9-10)", "Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15)". If i am not mistaken, Lebanon and Armenia hold a significant percentage of Orthodox Christians. "9) After this Jews will become Orthodox Christians (Romans 11,25-28)", and so forth. True the first half of the 12 signs have come to pass a long time ago, but what you have to remember is that these are events spread out through the life of the world, and thus cover a great span of time. Its the latter of the 12 signs that would be more significant for our time frame.

[Bong30]

Yeah it must be hard for the doctors over there to deal with this crime being inflicted upon lebannon its got to stop, Israel have no right doing this they won't cease fire nor do the Americans which if they were to say: stop it or else to Israel - they would.Its a crime and it needs to stop now!And in regards to the posting of the person talking about america being bombed look at your own government and see it for yourself - yeah 3000 people died thats sad but how many people have died in the Iraq War?Defintely way more than 3000 and how many more years is this crime going to continue for?:mad:
No the crime was letting hizbullah take lebanon over............

stand up moderate muslims...........


what if the lebonesses goverment had kicked them out? Isreal wouldnt have too............ ever think of that?

Remember hizbolla=iran...............

[Bong30]

Yeah it must be hard for the doctors over there to deal with this crime being inflicted upon lebannon its got to stop, Israel have no right doing this they won't cease fire nor do the Americans which if they were to say: stop it or else to Israel - they would.Its a crime and it needs to stop now!And in regards to the posting of the person talking about america being bombed look at your own government and see it for yourself - yeah 3000 people died thats sad but how many people have died in the Iraq War?Defintely way more than 3000 and how many more years is this crime going to continue for?:mad:
you forgot this one How come miss green?

do you have a left wing commie agneda? Ill post it for you mmmmmmmmk

1,402 rockets shot at Israel since onset of fighting


Northern District Police report 19 dead, more than 1,200 injured as a result of rocket attacks. Only Wednesday, 98 rockets launched by afternoon hours, resulting in several casualties
Hagai Einav




Since the onset of the current confrontation on the northern border, 15 days ago, 1,402 rockets have been launched at Israel, the Northern District Police's spokesperson reported. Nineteen civilians have been killed and 1,262 wounded, including 46 who are still hospitalized. Many of the injured suffered from shock

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3281843,00.html


You forgot about this miss green.......... WHY?

[dopesmoker]

No the crime was letting hizbullah take lebanon over............

stand up moderate muslims...........


what if the lebonesses goverment had kicked them out? Isreal wouldnt have too............ ever think of that?

Remember hizbolla=iran...............

The Lebanese government and military isn't strong enough.

[dopesmoker]

you forgot this one How come miss green?

do you have a left wing commie agneda? Ill post it for you mmmmmmmmk

1,402 rockets shot at Israel since onset of fighting


Northern District Police report 19 dead, more than 1,200 injured as a result of rocket attacks. Only Wednesday, 98 rockets launched by afternoon hours, resulting in several casualties
Hagai Einav




Since the onset of the current confrontation on the northern border, 15 days ago, 1,402 rockets have been launched at Israel, the Northern District Police's spokesperson reported. Nineteen civilians have been killed and 1,262 wounded, including 46 who are still hospitalized. Many of the injured suffered from shock

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3281843,00.html


You forgot about this miss green.......... WHY?


Good for them. If someone invaded my country i'd be firing rockets too. Hezbulloh was formed to fight the Israeli occupation years ago. So the responsibility of the creation of Hezbulloh should lie on Israels shoulders.

By the way the use of phosphorus weapons is a violation of International Laws

[jamstigator]

You're cheering on the people who blew up 230 or so U.S. marines? I'm sure the families of those guys really appreciate your show of support...for the PEOPLE WHO KILLED THEM.

[Myth1184]

didnt you post about these type of weapons being used in Iraq? Funny i dont remember the IDF using these...

[dopesmoker]

You're cheering on the people who blew up 230 or so U.S. marines? I'm sure the families of those guys really appreciate your show of support...for the PEOPLE WHO KILLED THEM.

I only support them in their fight against Israel. Dont forget that US Marines have done their fair share of atrocities as well. Vietnam anyone?

[Psycho4Bud]

I only support them in their fight against Israel.

I'm courious as to why?:confused:

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[dopesmoker]

I'm courious as to why?:confused:

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Well somewhere along the lines of 700 killed and scores more injured, and 100's of thousands displaced in both Lebanon and Israel as well as a humantarian crisis. All for 2 soldiers. The majority of Deaths and injuries in both countries have been civilians. If Israel spared civilians from the brunt of the attack my views would very quickly change

[Psycho4Bud]

Hard to do though when they set up camp/rocket launchers in civilian areas. Hell, they launch over 100 a day now into Israel...what are they suppose to do?

Not to mention, Lebanon was suppose to have Hezbollah disarmed by now. To bad they sat on their hands for so long. Don't get me wrong, civilian deaths are tragic but what would be the alternative? They can't jsut let Hezbollah just cross the border and kill/kidnap their soldiers. The REAL Lebanon army seems to have it's hands tied, the U.N. is worthless.......

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[dopesmoker]

Hey Psycho you seem pretty knowlegable about the conflict, what do you think about the peace plan that would see some of the Hezbulloh fighters as part of the Lebanese military. I believe it was suggested by Condoleeza Rice

[Psycho4Bud]

Hey Psycho you seem pretty knowlegable about the conflict, what do you think about the peace plan that would see some of the Hezbulloh fighters as part of the Lebanese military. I believe it was suggested by Condoleeza Rice

I think it's a start. Hezbollah started acting a bit legit by actually participating in elections. If they were to intigrate their people into the Lebanese army I think it would do more for the cause on both sides of the border.

I still don't agree with their basic philosophy but it sure don't hurt to be able to talk to someone at a table instead of across a battle line.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[dopesmoker]

I think it's a start. Hezbollah started acting a bit legit by actually participating in elections. If they were to intigrate their people into the Lebanese army I think it would do more for the cause on both sides of the border.

I still don't agree with their basic philosophy but it sure don't hurt to be able to talk to someone at a table instead of across a battle line.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

I agree with you on that one, the major concern and first thought that came to my mind was where their loyalties would lie

[Psycho4Bud]

I agree with you on that one, the major concern and first thought that came to my mind was where their loyalties would lie

That's true, they'd be in perfect position for an over throw of the government but it has to start and hopefully stop somewhere.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[slowthestone]

I'll lay a bud out that says Rice made that suggestion so that Hezbollah troops begin wearing a frig'n uniform and are easier to target!

If you had 3.9 million plants growing...would it bother you if I ripped out 510 of them?

Considering the sheer amount of death that occurs on Earth each and every day...wtf are people making such a fuss about?

Israel got fuk'd with. They decided to not take that sort of shit anymore.

Who in the thread claimed Hezbollah is a by-product of Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon? lol...thats funny. I s'pose Israel went into southern Lebanon in 1982 for what...loks and bagels?

Get a clue folks...no seriously...go have a look at Hezbollah's flag and get a fukn clue.

[slowthestone]

And in war...if you're sleeping with the enemy...you're the enemy too.

I've had it with the 20 days of the one-sided whining for poor Lebanon. pfft!

They've a cancer in their nation...a malignant one at that!

[Bong30]

And in war...if you're sleeping with the enemy...you're the enemy too.

I've had it with the 20 days of the one-sided whining for poor Lebanon. pfft!

They've a cancer in their nation...a malignant one at that!
Lets cut that malignant tumor off the ass of society...........

[Euphoric]

MILITARY APPLICATIONS

White phosphorus munitions are primarily used by the U.S. military to make smoke screens or mark targets as a signaling mechanism, but also as an incendiary weapon, the Pentagon said. It is not considered a chemical weapon under international conventions. It is a colorless or yellowish translucent wax-like substance that smells a bit like garlic. The substance ignites easily in air at temperatures of about 86 degrees F (30 C) and its fire can be difficult to extinguish. It commonly is dispersed by high-explosive munitions.

PENTAGON'S VIEW OF THE WEAPON

The Pentagon says white phosphorus is a conventional munition that is not outlawed or illegal or banned by any convention. It states that it is legal to fire these weapons at enemy fighters "out of military necessity and in accordance with the rules of proportionality." In the November 2004 Marine-led offensive in Falluja that involved fierce urban fighting, the Pentagon acknowledged using white phosphorus weapons against enemy fighters in a what they called a "shake-and-bake technique." Shells containing white phosphorous were fired at insurgents in foxholes or other covered positions to smoke them out and they were then hit with high-explosives artillery rounds.


INTERNATIONAL ACCORD

The Convention on the Prohibition of Use of Certain Conventional Weapons went into effect in 1983. Protocol III of the convention prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against civilians. The protocol also forbids their use against military targets within concentrations of civilians, except when the targets are clearly separated from civilians and "all feasible precautions" are taken to avoid civilian casualties. The United States is a party to the overall convention, but has not ratified the incendiary-weapons protocol.

[Miss Green]

No the crime was letting hizbullah take lebanon over............

stand up moderate muslims...........


what if the lebonesses goverment had kicked them out? Isreal wouldnt have too............ ever think of that?

Remember hizbolla=iran...............

Mate you are obiviously a right wing narq extremist - what are you a rascists sticking up for the criminals in Israel?:thumbsup:

[jamstigator]

I don't have any problem with white people, but I don't care for the KKK. I have no problem with Muslims, but I don't care for Hezbullah. Basically the same thing, except one group hates 'niggers' and the other group hates 'kikes'.

Not sure I ever understood the phosphorus weapons stuff. I guess they're saying it's better to be blown into small pieces by high explosives than be killed by phosphorus. Personally, I wouldn't want to die by *either* means; dead is dead. I guess they don't want to outlaw every means of killing people though, because then we'd be stuck with...peace.

[slowthestone]

Phosphorus is the new mustard gas.

[Bong30]

Mate you are obiviously a right wing narq extremist - what are you a rascists sticking up for the criminals in Israel?:thumbsup:
people through out the RACIST word when they are losing the argument...


nice.............


Hizbollah wants to push israel into the sea............im sure your ok with that NAZI..........

[Bong30]

Mate you are obiviously a right wing narq extremist - what are you a rascists sticking up for the criminals in Israel?:thumbsup:


ATTN P4B............i CAN HANDLE ANY THING BUT THIS BITCH CALLING ME A NARQ..............

ERASE THIS BITCH..............

[Bong30]

Mate you are obiviously a right wing narq extremist - what are you a rascists sticking up for the criminals in Israel?:thumbsup:
I didnt know that being an islamofascist was a Race.................

ill break it down for you dumb ass.........

when you call someone a racist, its cause they hate a race of people.....

a white person could be a wahabbist

a black person could be a wahabbist

a yellow person could be a wahabbist

Islam is not a race...........you are dumber then the foam in your surfboard..


I hate Islamofascist...... ya know that ones that want you and I dead...


here are some pics for you miss green........... this is what they will do to you.

[Psycho4Bud]

Mate you are obiviously a right wing narq extremist - what are you a rascists sticking up for the criminals in Israel?:thumbsup:

I've got my e-mail address in my signature, if you got some proof Miss Green e-mail me, either that or we'll see ya in three days. This issue of calling people narqs, NSA, DEA, etc...has been addressed over and over.

To me, and it should be to any other member at Cannabis.com, this type of accusation is about as low as a person can get and WILL NOT be tolorated!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[slowthestone]

lol...

"You suck. We don't like your kind around here.

Have a good one!:thumbsup: "

[Bong30]

I've got my e-mail address in my signature, if you got some proof Miss Green e-mail me, either that or we'll see ya in three days. This issue of calling people narqs, NSA, DEA, etc...has been addressed over and over.

To me, and it should be to any other member at Cannabis.com, this type of accusation is about as low as a person can get and WILL NOT be tolorated!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Thanks P4B,

I am the farthest thing from a narq............

call me an asshole, zionist, Neo con, republican dick head, daddy smokes alot, big prick, .......but Narq............. Never!

[Aaron385]

I just watched about two hours of CSPAN debate where a lebanese newspaper writer said that hezballah is now looking for a cease fire and welcomes international peace keeping force.. as long as that international peace keeping force consists only of the nations of syria and Iran at the lebanese israeli border. Think Israel is gunna go for that?? HAHAHAHAHAHA

The lebanese guy also said that hezbullah thinks they are winning this war and that the entire arab community is rallying behind hezbellah and looks forward to their defeat of israeli invaders.

The Israeli general said that once this offensive is complete they will in fact persue the source of the missels and insurgents (iran/syria) with full use of force if the international comunity does not act to restrict the deployment of these missels to military extremests (terrorists if you will). He made it sound pretty clear that if Iran so willingly gives terrorists this technology they will most likely give them nuclear weapons as well and that is concern is paramount to Israel and the rest of the free world.

Let me clue the world in on something... if Israel stopped getting hit with missles.. they would probably be much more inclined to stop advancing in lebanon and allow (real) international forces to supress offensive activity in lebanon. Now I know this conflict is a whole three weeks old and the liberals have already forgot how this whole thing got started (two soldiers.. AND A FUCK TON OF MISSLES SHOT AT CIVILIANS.. with a lebanese government saying.. oops.. too bad.. nothing we can do.. and we dont want any help either.).. but lets see here..

Watch this video if ya like videos to watch.. its not even bloody or anything..

http://players.mediazone.co.il/media/authors/34/playlists/2423/2423_static.asx

It shows iranian military trucks delivering missels to peoples houses in Kfar Qana.. then a short time later arial video of missles being fired from those areas. The israeli military reviewed satalite photos of the building full of civilians that just got "hit" and determined that the building was still standing 8 hours after their air strike of the area.. and most likely Hamas/Hezbullah blew up the building full of their own people to try and win over the heart of the international community.. Im not saying its the truth.. but thats what they are saying.. All I know is war sucks and I hope Israel gets their damn point across this time.. and if they bomb the fuck out of irans nuclear processing plants.. all i can say is.. TEAM ISRAEL! FUCK YEA!

[Breukelen advocaat]

Thanks P4B,

I am the farthest thing from a narq............

call me an asshole, zionist, Neo con, republican dick head, daddy smokes alot, big prick, .......but Narq............. Never!

We ought to get Mel Gibson to post here, while we're at it. I'm sure that he'd be made to feel quite welcome by some people. :thumbsup:

[Aaron385]

Now the lebanese UN embassator is like.. yea we talked with hezballah and they want a cease fire.. and then he was asked.. "so if you had no control over them three weeks ago what makes you think you have control over them now"

His response was that they talked to the elected officials in their government that are hezbellah members and they said so.. and the division of the lebanese army that is hezbellah..

Come on people.. see the truth... lebanon=hezbellah

maybe not 100% (yet) but pretty damn close.

Wouldnt it be great if we had a rouge army that just blew people up we didnt like.. and then our government was just like.. "oh its not us.. its that rouge army that lives/operates/and is funded by us and our constituents.. not our fault.. sucks to be you"

[jamstigator]

Hey now, don't be giving 'em any ideas there!

[graymatter]

It's actually Iran = Hezbollah... Lebanon is just a stage for the play.

[Aaron385]

graymatter- ill give ya that one :thumbsup:

[Delta9 UK]

I'm pretty left wing usually but I have to back Israel on this one. Lesser of two evils maybe ;) but when no-one else is doing anything about it....

[Aaron385]

hezballah actually has a bunch of teams of people operating underground with internet connections going on all the USA msg boards and trying to sway people to their side. I'd just have to bet that alot of these people that show up with 3 posts and just to talk about how terrible israel is (in bad english if you noticed) are probably hezballah.

[jamstigator]

Woohoo, a new conspiracy theory! ;)

[birdgirl73]

Oh, God, not another conspiracy!!

Hmmm, somehow I don't imagine Hezbollah would bother infiltrating a cannabis site with people who didn't do well in English. They'd have to compete with too many plain old unaffiliated cannabis users to stand out!

I'm going to step out on a limb here and say that I have a hard time backing either side of the Israel-Hezbollah dispute. There's tremendously hurtful violence being instigated by both parties, and I find it hard to justify in any fashion. I don't say that because it's the safe stance to take but because I think anyone with any sense of something other than polarized righteous indignation must see that both sides ought to exercise restraint. Immediately.

[Psycho4Bud]

hezballah actually has a bunch of teams of people operating underground with internet connections going on all the USA msg boards and trying to sway people to their side. I'd just have to bet that alot of these people that show up with 3 posts and just to talk about how terrible israel is (in bad english if you noticed) are probably hezballah.

LOL.....I'll give ya fore warning on this one here. I don't tolorate people pointing out members and calling them DEA, etc........in all fairness, your walking the fine line here. Hezbollah has by no means infiltrated Cannabis.com in order to recruit people to take up the cause.

lol.....What a sleeper cell that would be:
Hezbollah:We need you to go into action NOW.....plan C:mad:
Sleeper: Ahhhhh, o.k....right after this joint dude just got some fresh nugs:stoned:

Please, everyone.........HAVE A GOOD ONE!:thumbsup:

[GreenKing11]

The point is Israel is using chemicals weapons, and against innocent women and children none the less. I've never liked the UN, but they would gain some points with me if they went into Israel and arrested generals, politicins, anyone involved with this war for war crimes.

[pisshead]

The point is Israel is using chemicals weapons, and against innocent women and children none the less. I've never liked the UN, but they would gain some points with me if they went into Israel and arrested generals, politicins, anyone involved with this war for war crimes.

and it's really kind of disturbing to hear excuses for the use of these, what can only be called, weapons of mass destruction...DU and white phosphorous...

all i hear is, they're so bad, so we've just GOT to drop these bombs on them that melt skin and give people cancer...to protect their freedom...

there's no justification for it on either side.

[jamstigator]

If they arrested generals and politicians for letting their troops use DU and phosphorus, they'd probably want to start the arresting in the U.S., since we pioneered the concept of using DU in munitions. Britain, France and the Soviet Union all also make DU munitions. They're probably sold to anyone who wants to buy them. Their purpose isn't for civilians though, they're for piercing hardened targets, a cheaper alternative to tungsten, albeit a more dangerous one. However, in the context of bullets, well...I dunno. I mean, how much care do you take with people you're trying to kill? Should we issue the enemy flak jackets and kevlar AND promise not to use depleted uranium THEN try to kill them? If they harm OUR troops, which they might, that's a totally different issue. If that's the case, they should be voluntarily banned immediately.

As for as white phosphorus, "Use of white phosphorus against military targets (outside civilian areas) is not specifically banned by any treaty." Sooo...

One might contend that lots of Lebanon is a civilian area. But if that's so, then why are militants firing weapons from those areas, mostly at civilians elsewhere? Doesn't armed conflict in an area, by both sides, mean that A) this is no longer a civilian area; and B) wake up, civilians, it's time to get out of here?

It's all moot anyway. Israel is obviously determined to destroy as much as they can of Hezbullah: infrastructure, militants, weapons, vehicles, buildings. I'm not gonna argue with that either, because I remember the day Hezbullah blew up 241 innocent civilians...Americans. I'm deeply sorry that the Lebanese let militant extremists occupy their country, and as a result, civilians are dying and suffering. Maybe next time, they'll be a little more cautious about letting extremists call the shots in their country.

[Aaron385]

psycho- I saw it on the news.. they had a story where they were underground with a room full of people and the leader said they were "trying to get the word out to the world about what was really happening." Which unless that word is "hey guess what... iran is the new boarder of israel and most of us lebanese are hezballah too!" is a bunch of BS

Their UN negotiations are insane.. they want a multinational piece keeping force from syria and iran and they will not give up their weapons. If I was in the UN I would tell that bastard I dont negotiate with terrorists and I hope he has a safe trip home where israel will blow him to pieces.