NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's

[noodlesqld]

Hi everyone there are a few people on here that use cfl's to grow MJ so last year sometime i decided to experiment with a cfl grow so i guess i will fill you in on what happened on my last few cfl grows then go onto detail my current grow

first of all i usually grow outdoors, so i wanted to take what i know from my outdoor grows (usually 6ft + plants)

my first cfl grow had limited success as i didnt have all the right equip but i really wanted to start growing -all those cfl grow logs really made me want to start- so i just chucked in a few bag seeds from some sticky icky that i had smoked - i keep only seed from MJ that blows my socks off - and waited when they sprouted i put them under 2 cfl's (i forget the wattage) and watched them flourish they loved. my first mistake was to plant them into one large foam box(the ones u see in supermarkets keeping the veggies fresh) which i had punched a few holes in for drainage, but this drainage wasnt enough and the plants ened up very sick after a couple of weeks (i ave never had any problem with these foam boxes when growing out side i use them to get my plants to 2 foot before planting out in the ground) so being severly dissapointed i pulled them and decided i would wait a bit to try again with cfl's


my second cfl grow was a half cfl grow as i planted a few plants outdoors but it was a little late in the (australian) bud season so they only got to about 1-1/2 foot tall and started going to bud, i brought one of them inside and put it under the cfl's, i only brought in one as i thought if i kill it i will still get yeild from the others, anyway it turned out great crystals out the wazoo, so this is what inspired me to try again with a full cfl grow.


Current cfl Grow, I got a chest of draws that is about 3 and a half foot tall and anout 45cm wide and about the same deep by sheer accident i foud that it fit perfectly on top of a foam box so i thought that i could sit the chest of draws on top of the foam box and use it to put my pots in (not gunna make the same mistake twice but it is warter proof so any over flow from the pots wont leak out and onto my carpet) thus giving extra height

i then set up 4 cfl's, 1 @20watt =100w 6500K 2 at 15w=75w 6500K and 1 @15w = 75w 3600K so they all where in a line about 3 inches apart.

I planted my seedlings seed rasing dirt and in a seedling tray you know the ones got 8 lil pots all joined togethere into a punnet.

after they got root bound in this tray (1 week) i planted them into bigger pots

at 2 weeks i took some photos they are the ones attached pic one is one of the 2 sativas that i have and pics 2 and 3 oare of a weird looking indica plant

[noodlesqld]

now here are some current pics they are currently @ 3 weeks + 2 days of 12/12

I am flowering them now as i want to see if the whole veg and flower cycle can be acheived with this amount of light. In the next 2 weekd i will be getting a 2 foot fluro with 2 13 cool white tubed, but i will be changing these tubes out to some 10000k fluro tubes that i have found at a local aquarium store

concering nutes @ about 1.5 weeks i started them on a weak urea (46%N) solution every second water and gradually built it up to 3/4 stranght over about a week (i water about every second day) and yesterday (first day of 12/12 light) i watered them with a week soulution of aqualsol (very similar to regular thrive.... u know the yellow powder) which has a good amount of Nitrogen (13%) phosphourus about 20-25% and potasium @ 20-25 percent, it also has a lot of trace elements. i am not sure on the exact amount if each as i threw the box out a year ago when i brought it but i know it works have used it for years OUTDOORS

[noodlesqld]

check out the leaves on that last pic ....... lol

[JerryBerries420]

nice nice i have a ezhydro 125watt dual spectrum 8000+ lumens which is workn out great for me!!

good luck mate

[noodlesqld]

thanks jerryberries420.... what type of light is that a cfl??

when i made that 10000K comment i meant the light specrtum i am not to sure how many lumens as yet

[Pothead4204life]

its looking good....can you throw in another cfl?....you can i get 1 that is about 85watts and bout 4000lumens...in either temp...

[s12fever]

Looking good mate!

[noodlesqld]

its looking good....can you throw in another cfl?....you can i get 1 that is about 85watts and bout 4000lumens...in either temp...

first of all thanks for the input i greatly appreciate anyone who contributes :thumbsup:

yeah i was thinking that i should add another cfl or two as i was going to uses these light for a flower cab and the fluros (when i get them) for a veg cab:p :p :p

its hard to find really high wattage cfl's here in australia the biggest one i have found is 23 watts which equals about 120 watts :cool: :cool:

i am going to get a couple more 20w=100w cfls today


Thanks s12:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[noodlesqld]

i find it hard to belive that no one has noticed the leaves on the last pic that i posted, it has the strangest leaves i have ever seen, remindes me of a maple leaf

[noodlesqld]

i actually looked at the shops and seen that the fertilizer that i am using has 23 % N and 26%p and 4 % k. does anyone know if this will be good for flowering

[s12fever]

First of all, nah i don't know about the fert. But yea those leaves do look strange, really fat! Looking forward to seeing the end result ;)

[noodlesqld]

if u look on that packet of thrive could u tell me the complete list of components please..... appreciate it

[s12fever]

yep um....: a few different types of nitrogen; total nitrogen 27.0%, phosphorus as Water Soluble 5.9%, potassium as Potassium Nitrate 9.0%, magnesium as Magnesium Sulphate 1.05%, Sulphur as Sulphates 0.22%, Copper as Copper Sulphate 0.005%, Zinc as Zinc Sulphate 0.02%, Boron as Sodium Borate 0.005%, Manganese as Manganese Sulphate 0.04%, iron as Chelatde iron 0.18% Molybdenum as Sodium molybdate 0.002%, maximum biuret 0.4% ........... lol god that was boring

[s12fever]

says NPK is 27-5.5-9 whatevre that means

[noodlesqld]

thanks for that man really appreciate.

one more thing thou does it have a total phosphourus and total potasuim figure on there

[noodlesqld]

ah great u beat me to the punch npk id nitrogen (N) phos (p i think lol) and patasuim is (K). that is a lil bit to high in the nitrogen content for flowering for my likeing but over all its not to bad

[s12fever]

ah great u beat me to the punch npk id nitrogen (N) phos (p i think lol) and patasuim is (K). that is a lil bit to high in the nitrogen content for flowering for my likeing but over all its not to bad

ohh ok, so those NPK numbers have to be lower for flowering? With that "something lift" fert i was using (1 in the brown container) doesnt say the NPK on it...any way i can tell?

[s12fever]

oh nevermind, i think its 10-4-6, so is that better for flower or veg?churs

[noodlesqld]

no i think the N is still to high i was looking around and see that the p and k need to be higher than the N as N is used to promote leaf growth and p and k are for flower growth

[noodlesqld]

i just went out and got myself a 2 foot double fluro fixture and it came with 2 18 w power saving tri phoshure bulbs that are rated at 4000K, Can anyone tell me approx how many lumes these will put out.... Anyway, hopefully the ladies like it. i plan on putting the cfl's that i have around the plants for a little better light toward the bottom of the plant, as the first time i wired it up and pluged it in i noticed that not as much light is getting past the canopy

[noodlesqld]

well its the 7 day of 12/12 and we have a female YEAY im so happy as it was my fav plant =). only three to more 2 show sex hopefully at least 1 more will be female.... I will post pics tommorow.

[slowthestone]

keeeerikey noods...

That one plant looks like it got some cabbage mixed in with its marijuana. I hope to see more pics of that one in the coming weeks!

[s12fever]

well its the 7 day of 12/12 and we have a female YEAY im so happy as it was my fav plant =). only three to more 2 show sex hopefully at least 1 more will be female.... I will post pics tommorow.

How tall are your plants???? :thumbsup:

[noodlesqld]

1 to 1.5 feet

[noodlesqld]

thanks slow there will be some pics of my lil ladie tommorow that cabbage looking one is female.....lol i am happy as larry at the moment

[noodlesqld]

pics.... the one on the left in the first pic is female:thumbsup: :thumbsup: and the rest are yet to be determines.....
will post better pics tonight when i have more time to get some good pics....
my cam sucks :( .

i will be setting up my cfl's around for better light around the side of the plant.....

I have not tiped these planst as i am just seeing if i can get enought light out of compact and normal flurecents as i would like to not have to buy a hid or hps. so this is very much an experiment i am interested in how thick and solid i can get the main cola, next project will be starting soon in a seperate veg cab with cfl's will get the whole sog/scrog (undesided) treatment as i will be trying to see how much of an increas in yeild i can get ;)

[noodlesqld]

bump..... i am waiting for the others to show sex then the females will be transplanted into premium potting mix 5/10/10 hopefully this will help them grow some fat nug's

[s12fever]

nice!! :D :D :D

[noodlesqld]

ok here is the real update :rasta: :stoned:

they are now into there 5th week i think 7th day of 12/12 and as i said earlier one of them is female, the one on the left on the first 4 pics

the one on the right in the first 4 pics is a similar strain (not to sure of any of their strains) to the one on the left both are showing indica traits

[noodlesqld]

bloody hell forgot to click upload :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :dance:

[noodlesqld]

:stoned: :stoned: :stoned:

[noodlesqld]

pics of the sativa dominat plants

[s12fever]

looks good.......just curious, how tall is your shortest plant? I'm just so eager to start 12/12, even though i know its too early lol

[noodlesqld]

i put mine under 12/12 really early about 3-3.5 week. the shortest plant is just under a foot but mine have not been topped yet

[mobay]

lookin good noodles

[noodlesqld]

thanks Mobay that means a lot coming from you.....SLAP

well 2 more plants are showing signs of sex but its to early yet to know if they are male or female hopefully by tommorow i will know either way "please be female, please be female, please be female, please be female, please be female."
lol

[s12fever]

Sup noodles?!

Any sign of more lil girls yet ??? :thumbsup:

[noodlesqld]

sup!!, been working my ass off got a new job....

well the two that where showing signs of sex turned out to be male they will be slaughtered tommorow when the lights come back on. I am so pissed but i knew that i might only end up with one female. so thats the way the cookie crumbles i guess.

well the offical count is now 1 FEMALE yay 2 males =( and 1 undetermined.

the one undetermined one seems to be growing really fast it has gained about 1 inch a day and has become the largest plant.

PIC's to follow on the weekend

[noodlesqld]

well the males are now dead i have them hanging up drying. i think i might make some kenna butter then make some brownies....lol

[Pothead4204life]

everything is lookin good...one suggestion i have is to LST them...that way you can get some light to the lower branches....another thing is since you have 1 female go ahead a clip a few branches to clone....

[noodlesqld]

yeah i was thinking of lst'ing them and i definently want some clones as the female is the one with the really fat leaves and talk about stink...lol thanks for the input pothead4204life

[noodlesqld]

YAY the count is now 2 females 2 males,
I was so happy this morning when i got up for work looked in the "cuboard" and my last undetermined plant IS A FUCKING FEMALE. I was resigned to the fact the i would end up with one female so this second one made my day i am so glad i went to all the effort. cant wait to get some clones and start a veg cab. cant wait till the weekend so i can take some clones after i get it all set up for the lil ladies...........

pics to follow soon my cam is playing up or should i say my MicroShit XPlosion is...lol

[s12fever]

So you got 50/50 male:female ratio? Goodie! So far its not looking too good for me...hahaha. First 2/6 plants to show sex are males, which sucks..but oh well...still 4 left!

Pics? PICS?! :)

[bud breath420]

wow noodles your plants are looking great..!! hey man im guessing by your name you live in queensland?? (me 2 if ya do!) anyhoo! good job brother keep up the good work.. keep us posted on your grow!!

[s12fever]

wow noodles your plants are looking great..!! hey man im guessing by your name you live in queensland?? (me 2 if ya do!) anyhoo! good job brother keep up the good work.. keep us posted on your grow!!

Good to see another aussie here.... i'm not one myself but i used to be :thumbsup:

P.S. Go All Blacks :thumbsup:

[slowthestone]

Maybe I'm a nit picker...but...where are the CFLs?

[bud breath420]

oh glad to be another aussie here... slowthestone his cfls are in his little grow box thingy going on there by the looks of it..


pps (dont make me start imitating sheep!! jk)

[mobay]

noddles your doing a damn good job there. using cfl's are good. the best during the summer time.

[slowthestone]

Okay...this IS nit picky, but then...I'm a stickler for terminology...

Fluorescent tubes are not CFLs.

Mistaken terminlogy aside...nood's grow is looking good.

[noodlesqld]

i made no mistake i use cfl's they just arnt in the pic but they will be in the next set of pics just for u slowthestone...lol

just to clarify i used ONLY cfl's for the first five weeks then i got a 2 foot shot light which is suplemented by 3 cfl's that are on a frame that i can move i use this to provide light to the lower part of my plants, as they have not been topped i needed to get light to the lower branches.

ok I have started lst'ing them yesterday and they are loving it.

Yeah I am from QLD but Go the blues wwwwuuuuuuuaaaahhhhhhhhh

[s12fever]

pps (dont make me start imitating sheep!! jk)

lol :) apparently sheep were native in Australia long before they come to NZ, haha :dance: :thumbsup:

[noodlesqld]

actually they were never "native" to australia... lol hahahahahaha but australia does (or used to) have the most sheep in it, per capita

i hope to have some pics up in the next day or 2 at the latest, i cant wait for you all to see hoe they are fairing, the last one to go female lookes to have balls like the ones you shows on your thread (s12) but they are on a lower a lower nodes but now it is showing white hairs, looks like we are dealing with a hermie. i hope not thou.

[s12fever]

actually they were never "native" to australia... lol hahahahahaha but australia does (or used to) have the most sheep in it, per capita

i hope to have some pics up in the next day or 2 at the latest, i cant wait for you all to see hoe they are fairing, the last one to go female lookes to have balls like the ones you shows on your thread (s12) but they are on a lower a lower nodes but now it is showing white hairs, looks like we are dealing with a hermie. i hope not thou.

lol tuche.

oh you got urself a hermie, that sucks. Well just be patient so you know for sure.............couple more days till i should see some signs of sex!! :thumbsup:

A question! : ........

Does flowering officially start as soon as 12/12 is started, or does it start when the flowers show?

For example.... "Jack Hererr takes 8 weeks to flower" - is that 8 weeks from 12/12, or 8 weeks from when the first tops appeared?

this confused me lol

[bud breath420]

hehehe sheepy sheepy

[slowthestone]

A question! : ........

Does flowering officially start as soon as 12/12 is started, or does it start when the flowers show?

For example.... "Jack Hererr takes 8 weeks to flower" - is that 8 weeks from 12/12, or 8 weeks from when the first tops appeared?

this confused me lol


Seed banks add to that confusion with a confusion of their own regarding if they're talking about 8 weeks of flowering, or 8 weeks total between the sprout turning ripe. As in, some make it clear, others make it fuzzy.

But right about the time a person starts seeing that just about every feeding schedule around is a 12 week process...however long a strain's flower time is...add an additional 4 weeks for the period when you're vegging.

[noodlesqld]

lol bud breath.

dont quote me on this but i think it is eight weeks from when they show sex, but i could be wrong.

i would say the best bet is to use your own judgment if it is a matter of when to harvest. but if you are just chosing a strain its good to pick a relitivly quick flowering one, it all depends thou if you are gunna grow indoors or outdoors.

[Pothead4204life]

i believe as soon as you start 12/12 is when day one begins

[s12fever]

:mad:

[bud breath420]

hmmm stupid seedbanks stuff sucks... i think the best seed bank was mark emery seeds but he got arrested does anyone know if the actual seed company are still around? oh heres a bit of pub ammo for you guys did you know that selling over 60,000 seeds qualifies for the death penalty in america. The manufacture or distribution of 60,000 kilograms of marijuana, 60,000 plants or 60,000 seeds all are included in death penalty provisions of the medieval law passed by a Newt Gingrich congress. FUCK THAT!! lol anyways man need some updates on your grow bro !! i wanna see how they are doing!! PEACE!!

[noodlesqld]

sorry I havnt posted for a while i had to reinstall windows as my cam wasnt working.... anyway here are some pics

[noodlesqld]

the hermie turned out female (the one on the right) it only ever showed one pollen sack and i removed that, since then it has only showed white hairs the pics that i took dont really do it justice, it is way behind the plant on the left (the indica dominant plant) in the flowering process, the plant on the left is showing trichrom production and i hope to harvest in about 3-4 weeks.

I will try to take better pics of the one on the right (the sative dominant one) as it gets further along in the flowering process. I dont really want to move them out of the cubboard as they are lst'd but i will if to get better picks

[bud breath420]

lookin good bro wondering where you got to... welcome back !! peace!!

[noodlesqld]

thanks bud it was really pissing me off not being able to post pics but as u can see they are still going ok. 2 females out of 4 plants is damn good. i am so happy with the results so far

[noodlesqld]

ok here are some pics of my indica that i had to pull yesty as i am getting ready for my next grow. since this was just an experiment to see if i could do it i am really happy with the result. the hermie that i thought went female is now showing more balls. i will leave it as a sort of side experiment to see if i can get some feminised seeds.

Keep an eye wout for my next grow that will be starting soon.....:thumbsup:

the seeds are already in "bag seed" of course.:rasta:

details should go like this 2 cabs one for veg with cfl's and one with a mix of cfl's and fluros. i will be building the cabs myself as now i work a lot with wood i have the know how to build some good cabs. i still havnt figured out the exact specs but as soon as i get it up and running i will start a new thread and see how it goes.

cheers to everyone for there input :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :dance: :dance:

[noodlesqld]

i know that i should have left it longer but mehhhhh. im just happy that i will be smoking some nice home
grown as soon as it is cured.

[bud breath420]

good job man hope we see some more of your work in the future...

[noodlesqld]

thanks mate, you sure will . the seeds are already up =)

[LIP]

lol bud breath.

dont quote me on this but i think it is eight weeks from when they show sex, but i could be wrong.

i would say the best bet is to use your own judgment if it is a matter of when to harvest. but if you are just chosing a strain its good to pick a relitivly quick flowering one, it all depends thou if you are gunna grow indoors or outdoors.

Most strains are 8 weeks from 12/12. When they put an amount of weeks they means how long it take from the 12/12 light times. Some long flowering sativas can go on for up to 14 weeks.

Only if they actually say, 8 weeks from seed to harvest, like with LR.

[noodlesqld]

cool thanks for correcting me =) its always good to learn something new..lol