Wtf? Above the influence my ass.

[BloodAngel]

The commercial is this kid just standing there in his room, not moving. All his friends are liks coming around him, cutting his hair, dressing him, making him play a guitar, etc.

I don't know about you guys, but my stoner friends don't fucking tell me what to wear and how to cut my hair and shit... I'm so pissed about all this bullshit propaganda and scare tactics they use in anti-drug commercials.

Fellow stoners... I invite you to vent your anger on govenment lies and propaganda!

[JerryGarcia]

I like how it's all like "Hey don't give in to peer pressure now do exactly what we tell you and conform like everyone else"

I'd say there's way more pressure from schools and ad campaigns than my peers.

[NightProwler]

the world sucks. plain and simple

[Binzhoubum]

The gov't needs to play it up like some horrible scourge of society and civilization so the CIA can jack up the price when they distribute it...

I mean for a country so gung-ho about the war on drugs, there sure are alot of them in the US.

In China, they barely educate people at all about drugs...so everyone is afraid to do them because they know absolutely nothing about them other than the fact that they are illegal.

I think the American gov't does themselves a disservice by hyping them up so much... :smokin:

[BuenoMota]

I fucking hate those commercials.

[SmokingPlatypus]

It's like they try to assume that nobody EVER smoked of their own accord, that everyone who smokes does it because a peer made them.

[greenetn05]

those commercials are so full of so much bullshit they suck bad

[insanity]

No one takes that shit serriously, we all know that life under the influence is much better. But none of my own friends tell me what to do except smoke a bowl when I'm pissed.

[THE GOOSE]

all these commercials are pretty pathetic but misleading in so many ways (im really out there right now so bear with me) if the real information isnt given to the teens watching we r gonna live in a world of panicing bastards who dont know how to deal with anything related to drugs( a decent sized part of our world today)and they probably wont know right from wrong if they started taking drugs out of curiosity or w/e and we r gonna also have a bunch high fuckin heroin addicts runnin around like cockroaches im too messed up to continue :rasta:

[JerryGarcia]

I'm beginning not to trust anybody who never toked it.

[wonderbear]

The commercial is this kid just standing there in his room, not moving. All his friends are liks coming around him, cutting his hair, dressing him, making him play a guitar, etc.

I don't know about you guys, but my stoner friends don't fucking tell me what to wear and how to cut my hair and shit... I'm so pissed about all this bullshit propaganda and scare tactics they use in anti-drug commercials.

Fellow stoners... I invite you to vent your anger on govenment lies and propaganda!

those adds are fucking terrible propoganda, and i don't even do drugs! absolute garbage

[JerryGarcia]

lol, why are you on these forums if you don't do drugs? I'm not saying gtfo or anything, just curious as to what you hope to gain from posting here.

[SpiritLevel]

TURN OFF THE IDIOT BOX.
DON'T FEED THE IDIOT BOX.
KEEP THE IDIOT BOX OUT OF REACH OF LOVED ONES.
television is telling_lies_via_vision
when something is televised it is tellin_lies..
anyone who believes the tell_lie_via_vision/IDIOT BOX is one?
PROTECT INNOCENT MINDS FROM THE IDIOT BOX ELSE THEY BECOME THAT.

[YouD0nt]

I like how it's all like "Hey don't give in to peer pressure now do exactly what we tell you and conform like everyone else"

I'd say there's way more pressure from schools and ad campaigns than my peers.

Thats the truth ^^

There is plenty more pressure from schools n ads than friends, and if your stupid enough to fall to that pressure then you deserve to be like those ppl in the adds.

[BloodAngel]

Before I started smoking I had lots of friends... But when I started smoking a few of them stopped hanging out with me because they said they "didn't like my decisions"

I'm not arrogant or anything, but it's their loss. I actually feel bad for them that they're closed minded and under-educated enough to think that just because someone does weed that they can't hang out with them. If they don't smoke it's not like I'm going to MAKE them, but they can't see past that and see that I'm the same person they hung out with before...

My eyes are just red and I'm laughing at everything :stoned:

[orangeman]

I know what you mean, they say so much shit about what cannabis does to you and they are so fuckin stupid. One of the reasons we know that cannabis is'nt bad because half of those kids that make those commericials probably have people in their classrooms that they dont even know smoke cannabis because it doesnt even effect how you look or act (when your sober). I really want to know who I could mail to stop these commercials and help put out a positive commercial about cannabis instead of all this "negative effect" shit that never even happens.

[too as in also]

it's ironic that the commercials claim to be anti-peer pressure when the commercial itself is a form of peer pressure

[da haze meister]

its like
i heard an ad on the radio
saying pot makes you less you
its fuckin retarded
if you burn out yeah,,, but i have gained friends from it
and i am more me

[graph]

I wish my friends came around periodically and dressed me as was current with the times. I mean, that sounds like a really cool group of people to me.

Still, I think those commercials are incredible, and give a wide source from information. Smoking weed does not make you capable of outrunning dogs, and people who smoke weed are statistically less likely to be able to shove their hands in their mouths.

[anycraic]

people who smoke weed may find themselves stoned from time to time

[go toke up]

those commercials r evil!!!

[zalami128]

I'm beginning not to trust anybody who never toked it.

you're trippin

[make it legal]

i cant stand the one where the chick is laying on the couch and shes flat and her friend is there saying like "she cant talk because ever since she started to smoke pot all we ever do is sit here and do nothing. great isnt it?" it pisses me off because thats just straight up lying to your face. i mean, who ever smoked weed a few times and then became completely paralized? shit when im blazed i like to go out and do stuff not just sit around. fuck that.

[SomeGuy]

Yeah the commercials are stupid...but they are so over the top that most people know they are bullshit.

I think he should just take it like Harold and Kumar where they show that violent commercial and it flashes "Marijuana Kills!" and theyre just cracking up laughing. Thats what we do whenever one of those commercials comes on while blazed :-p

[Skink]

I read a lot in the forums about propaganda ads,but never see the ads or anyone post a link... Please post this stuff so we know whats up,I wud love to see it...

Thanx...

[SinisterK]

Yeah, it's just like those "Truth" commercials. Their have been no factual studies done on cigarettes. Their statistics are all computer based.

I'm not deying that cigarettes can cause cancer, I'm just saying the numbers are exagerated.

[SomeGuy]

I was looking at parodys of marijuana commercials on youtube and i found the actual clip from HArold and Kumar
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_f9O4FFQyAE&search=marijuana%20commercial

[Oneironaut]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is nothing wrong with peer pressure. Everybody belongs to some social group and adopts many of the societal norms they find their peers following. For example, why do so many teenagers skateboard, dye their hair, or use the latest slang words? Because they enjoy doing those activities with their friends and they consciously chose to do it out of their own will. It's not like people are being forced into following societal norms; it's just what humans tend to do because we are social creatures who like to have a sense of belonging. Smoking pot is no different. If someone consciously chooses to smoke pot because his friends all seem to be having a good time with it, what is wrong with that? He's not harming anyone else, and nobody is going to beat him up if he refuses (if someone is threatening to beat him up, then the ethical issue is not peer pressure but violent threats, which is a different ballpark). Everyone should be able to do as they please so long as nobody else gets hurt in the process, no matter what their motives are in doing the activity they have chosen to do.

[graph]

I don't like peer pressure. I don't like watching kids follow other kids, and I was a part of a trend for a long time.

Then again, we may come from different sides of the fence. Had I given into peer pressure, I probably wouldn't smoke weed now and be in law school or something. I would hate it, and it wouldn't be me, but it's what I would be doing had I not made my own decisions and stop hanging out with large groups of people.

I'm so much more happier now then I was back then. Then again, those were akward teenage years, so maybe that's it too.

[SinisterK]

I like your view Oneironaut, it makes much sense.

[graph]

I'd also like to add that I see a difference between making a decision based on observation and peer pressure. I mean, I just kind of went with whatever would make me the coolest.

"Teenagers smoke, Kif, and they seem pretty on the ball"

Do you watch Futurama?

[Oneironaut]

Everybody does things to make other people view them in a favorable light. That's why we say "bless you" when somebody sneezes, why we do favors for others, and why we don't wear panties on our heads. Sure, it's probably not a good idea to just blindly follow the herd in everything, but everybody does certain things to make them "fit in". Nobody is a complete non-conformist, but nobody is a complete conformist either. Take a look at hippies, punks, skinheads, nudists, gangsters...even non-conformists have societal norms that they follow. Be an individual, but don't completely alienate yourself from everybody by refusing to do anything to make others think positively of you.

[graph]

But if you're conforming to life because of the way others conform, doesn't that make you a conforming non-comformist?

Oh, I get it now. Everything just kinda snapped. I see what you're saying.

Oh, and panties on the head is the new thing in Japan.

[Oneironaut]

Sweet, I gotta go to Japan sometime.

[kingjustin]

Make it two. I'm all in for some jap panties.

[SpiritLevel]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is nothing wrong with peer pressure. Everybody belongs to some social group and adopts many of the societal norms they find their peers following. For example, why do so many teenagers skateboard, dye their hair, or use the latest slang words? Because they enjoy doing those activities with their friends and they consciously chose to do it out of their own will. It's not like people are being forced into following societal norms; it's just what humans tend to do because we are social creatures who like to have a sense of belonging. Smoking pot is no different. If someone consciously chooses to smoke pot because his friends all seem to be having a good time with it, what is wrong with that? He's not harming anyone else, and nobody is going to beat him up if he refuses (if someone is threatening to beat him up, then the ethical issue is not peer pressure but violent threats, which is a different ballpark). Everyone should be able to do as they please so long as nobody else gets hurt in the process, no matter what their motives are in doing the activity they have chosen to do.
I disagree with some aspects of your opinion and this is why. Having a sense of belonging to a group because of having to conform is like assimilating bad behaviour because everyone else is that way inclined. If someone doesn't know right from wrong, and most people only comprehend this literally, then peer pressure doesn't enable those people to make the right decission for themselves. They tend to make the decission which provides popularity or comfort or whatever fulfilment one is seeking out of that group. People being forced into the NORM isn't right, it means people aren't free to be who they want to be, thus they are forced. I've been forced, and I've been lost through this encounter, and I am now seeking the truth in the midst of many lies. To become caught up in impressing others and losing oneselve; being a conformists. I see people having a good time doing all kinds of things; the bus driver has a good time scaring passingers by going fast, police have a good time fuckin with peeps. Orite, bus drivers and po po are jobs. But the same peer pressure still goes on in employment as well as in other social group encounters.

Doing as one pleases contradicts peer pressure to some degree; there is often one or two who feel no pressure because they are actually being who they are. Any pressure applied to cause someone to do something means they aren't doing as they please. It means they are under influence. I'm going for a shit fucit

[yabatab]

I like that commercial that came out where the dad smokes weed
then he finds out his son does also. I always liked to think that
after it cuts off they toke up together.....LOL that's an old one
some of you may have no idea what im talking about. Most of
these anti-drug commercials are so preposterous they are funny.
I say keep making them they only premote drug use anyways and
are good for a laugh.

[dejayou30]

i don't understand the commercials they used to have where the dad would be talking to his kid about how smoking pot was so bad and how he used to do it but the kid shouldn't, but the dad is like some successful dude in a suit and tie and a nice house, its like, "uhh yeah must have been really bad." my coworker is like 35-45 and one of those commercials came on at work and he's like "that's a stupid commercial, i had a lot of fun back at those pot parties in my day."

commercials like these above the influence ones are just to try to further cement the idea of "pot=drug=bad," which for most americans these days is enough knowledge on the topic for them.

[Oneironaut]

I disagree with some aspects of your opinion and this is why. Having a sense of belonging to a group because of having to conform is like assimilating bad behaviour because everyone else is that way inclined. If someone doesn't know right from wrong, and most people only comprehend this literally, then peer pressure doesn't enable those people to make the right decission for themselves.
Right. People need to think for themselves. But that doesn't mean they can't do what other people are doing in order to belong to a group. Most peer pressure, as I see it, encourages activities which are neither good nor bad in themselves (i.e. skateboarding, using slang, etc.) If what your friends are doing is a bad idea, then sure, don't do it. But I don't see the harm in adopting a societal norm if it doesn't hurt anyone.

They tend to make the decission which provides popularity or comfort or whatever fulfilment one is seeking out of that group. People being forced into the NORM isn't right, it means people aren't free to be who they want to be, thus they are forced. I've been forced, and I've been lost through this encounter, and I am now seeking the truth in the midst of many lies. To become caught up in impressing others and losing oneselve; being a conformists. I see people having a good time doing all kinds of things; the bus driver has a good time scaring passingers by going fast, police have a good time fuckin with peeps. Orite, bus drivers and po po are jobs. But the same peer pressure still goes on in employment as well as in other social group encounters.
But the issue there isn't peer pressure. Bus drivers driving too fast is a safety issue, and policemen harassing people is an abuse of power issue. If someone is doing something unethical out of a desire to belong, it is still their responsibility for doing the wrong thing, and they should be held accountable for that because they chose to do it out of their own free will. But if you actually look at how peers affect people, you'll find that most of the societal norms are completely harmless and in some cases they are even beneficial. Just look at the strong peer pressure in our society against being a racist for example.

Doing as one pleases contradicts peer pressure to some degree; there is often one or two who feel no pressure because they are actually being who they are. Any pressure applied to cause someone to do something means they aren't doing as they please. It means they are under influence. I'm going for a shit fucit
Individuals don't develop in a vacuum. Every person on the face of the earth has had their worldviews and behavioral patterns influenced by their peers. We learn how to act in society by observing how people around us act. Take handshaking for instance. I bet you shake people's hands all the time. Why do you do it? Because that's what your peers do, and it's expected that you do it too. Nobody's forcing you to shake hands, but you do it anyways because you don't want to alienate yourself from the rest of society.

All I'm saying is, don't follow the crowd just for the sake of following the crowd. Think for yourself, and carefully evaluate whether a given societal norm is harmful or not. If it is, don't do it, but if it isn't then there's no compelling reason why it would be wrong if you choose to conform.

[NextLineIsMine]

gahhh you guys are getting me all pissed at the goverment, stop harshing my mellow

[yabatab]

Here is a good one put out by the CIA see if you can
watch this without laughing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnERpDHiSM0&search=CIA
A wife and 7 kids.......LOL

[make it legal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA thats a funyn video. even though ive never done acid...i want to though

[yabatab]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA thats a funyn video. even though ive never done acid...i want to though

Watch out for those hot dog trolls LOL

[Reefer Rogue]

These commercials won't affect whether or not most people try cannabis. Infact, it will probably influence people who want to try it even more then if they had never seen the commercials. The more ludicrous the better imo, keep up the laughs :D

That lsd hot dog vid was weird lol.

[smoke it]

the goverment sucks what more can i say.