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incubus7292
07-13-2006, 03:11 AM
I was recently givin a liter of cannabis vodka from one of my friends that went to some place in europe. at the bottom of the liter theres a large amount of pot seeds, that have been soaking in it for who knows how long. Does anyone know wether or not the effects of pot will be combined with the alcohol giving it a drunken high sensation when drank?

Gothen
07-13-2006, 03:19 AM
Yeah, if it's what I think it will, it'll fuck you up right good. Be prepared to be floored.

Ae...
07-13-2006, 03:23 AM
I don't see how seeds would have any effect.

You have to use the plant matter. Check out this thread about "Green Dragon" it sounds bitchen, I'll get around to trying it one day.

You will probably get better results from trying this recipe.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=58414

crudemood
07-13-2006, 03:23 AM
I've actually seen this online and was so intrigued by it.
Are the seeds you find at the bottom fertile?
yeah and -does- it get you high ?

mrdevious
07-13-2006, 03:25 AM
I once heard that the Russians have a THC vodka.

Gothen
07-13-2006, 03:31 AM
I don't see how seeds would have any effect.

You have to use the plant matter. Check out this thread about "Green Dragon" it sounds bitchen, I'll get around to trying it one day.

You will probably get better results from trying this recipe.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=58414

I'm pretty sure that cannabis vodka IS green dragon. At least, thats what I thought it was.

Ae...
07-13-2006, 03:42 AM
I'm pretty sure that cannabis vodka IS green dragon. At least, thats what I thought it was.
Yes that's exactly what it is.

What I was trying to explain is that I don't think plain seeds will give any added effects, making it just vodka with seeds floating around the bottom.

I dunno though I always doubt myself, maybe someone can prove me wrong showing that seeds work just as well?

Tom Swierzbinski
07-13-2006, 03:47 AM
I once heard that the Russians have a THC vodka.

They have THC vodka? Aww, my ancestors have everything. Including the KGB and dictatorships.

SmokingPlatypus
07-13-2006, 04:56 AM
Yeah, it just sounds like a Green Dragon. You can definately drink it, and it will definately fuck you up, though Green Dragon is best made with Everclear.

chisme
07-13-2006, 06:52 AM
can i just say this to you guys........alcohol destroys thc,,,

chisme
07-13-2006, 06:53 AM
ps. seeds hold 0% thc its a selling point, a gimmick,,, fake probably good vodka thou lol

Skink
07-13-2006, 07:46 AM
Man!!! I want THC Vodka...

PsychedelicSins
07-13-2006, 07:48 AM
Ive done that with everclear, it fucks you up good.

SmokingPlatypus
07-13-2006, 08:57 AM
can i just say this to you guys........alcohol destroys thc,,,

No it doesn't.. THC is alcohol soluable. It's also fat soluable. That's like saying that butter destroys THC, and I was just imagining getting stoned off those brownies.

chisme
07-13-2006, 09:21 AM
No it doesn't.. THC is alcohol soluable. It's also fat soluable. That's like saying that butter destroys THC, and I was just imagining getting stoned off those brownies.


yes absorbs it, as in to destroy it if used in a bong.... did u not see my post under that one? seeds dont contain thc so theres no point anyway....
i was imagining you were a butthole :rasta:

Az.
07-13-2006, 10:07 AM
Ok I have a question....
I thought THC had to be heated to a certain temp before it became active?
Just somthing I read here a while ago, about eating raw weed not getting you stoned....
if thats the case then how would green dragon get you stoned?

Ae...
07-13-2006, 11:46 AM
Yeah, you heat the plant matter first to activate the THC.

Note the link I posted -- the guy heats it in a pie pan to activate it, then heats the alcohol in a water bath and maintains the temperature to just below boiling. This is where heat activation comes into make Green Dragon...

chisme
07-13-2006, 12:53 PM
Ok I have a question....
I thought THC had to be heated to a certain temp before it became active?
Just somthing I read here a while ago, about eating raw weed not getting you stoned....
if thats the case then how would green dragon get you stoned?


ANOTHER TRUTH

Psycho4Bud
07-13-2006, 01:00 PM
Here's something I found on this:

Cannabis vodka

Ingredients:


1/4 oz. of stockpiled cannabis stems from breaking up buds.
Vodka (any kind should do)
Glass container

Place all stockpiled stems in a jar. Pour in your vodka, just enough to fully submerge the stems. Let set in a dark place for about a week. After that, you will need to strain out the stems. A great trick is to make tea type bags out of coffee filters and stems for easy removal.

Why this works: Stems contain a small amout of THC, but not really enough to be worth smoking. Compiling enough stems together and soaking them in vodka releases the THC into the vodka without messing with the nasty smoke. This is great because most people throw their stems away anyway.
http://www.drugs-plaza.com/recipesvodka.htm

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

JDiz
07-13-2006, 06:10 PM
rock on, kinda makes me regret the thousands of stems i've trashed all these years.

cannabis campbell
07-13-2006, 06:15 PM
Why not drink vodka and smoke cannabis like me :D not too much or it gives you a headache which lasts for hours but it gets you fucked up!!

Binzhoubum
07-13-2006, 06:20 PM
ANOTHER TRUTH

You are patently wrong, man. THC IS fat and alcohol soluble.

Anybody with half a brain knows you can't eat a nugget and expect to get high, but if you do soak the weed in alcohol or cook it down with butter it will release the THC and other active substances into the medium.

I should know because I make a sort of hash oil using alcohol and hash. I soak the hash in the alcohol first and it separates the THC and other active ingredients from the inert plant matter and dirt. Then I strain out the remaining liquid from the solids left behind and cook it down over low heat. It forms a super-sticky, oily substance that I usually smoke by mixing with tobacco. It gets you very stoned...

Funny thing is: I learned how to do this from a friend who learned it from the Russians. They call it "hempka". There is a thread in the recipes forum.

I guess what I am trying to say is this: You don't have to smoke weed to get a buzz. This alcohol thing is completely scientific and feasible; however, the seeds probably have no THC in them so it would be just like somone else already said---a marketing gimmick.

The green dragon thing would work without heating the weed if you break it up and let it sit in some high proof alcohol. If this isn't the case then the "hempka" I am making would not work at all.

:smokin:

chisme
07-13-2006, 06:24 PM
You are patently wrong, man. THC IS fat and alcohol soluble.

Anybody with half a brain knows you can't eat a nugget and expect to get high, but if you do soak the weed in alcohol or cook it down with butter it will release the THC and other active substances into the medium.

I should know because I make a sort of hash oil using alcohol and hash. I soak the hash in the alcohol first and it separates the THC and other active ingredients from the inert plant matter and dirt. Then I strain out the remaining liquid from the solids left behind and cook it down over low heat. It forms a super-sticky, oily substance that I usually smoke by mixing with tobacco. It gets you very stoned...

Funny thing is: I learned how to do this from a friend who learned it from the Russians. They call it "hempka". There is a thread in the recipes forum.

I guess what I am trying to say is this: You don't have to smoke weed to get a buzz. This alcohol thing is completely scientific and feasible; however, the seeds probably have no THC in them so it would be just like somone else already said---a marketing gimmick.

:smokin:


anybody with half a brain would have relise i was saying "truth" to when az pointed out it had to be heated.....funny this is....fuck it

Binzhoubum
07-13-2006, 06:26 PM
anybody with half a brain would have relise i was saying "truth" to when az pointed out it had to be heated.....funny this is....fuck it

Yeah, I guess I have half a brain...:smokin:

But it's going strong.

And that's also the point I was trying to argue...you don't need to heat it if you let it sit in alcohol. The alcohol will absorb the THC and other active ingredients without heat because THC is alcohol soluble.

incubus7292
07-13-2006, 06:53 PM
the seeds in the bottom are almost broken open and look like their about to grow...if i were to heat the vodka up but not till boiling, would some thc be released? it minght have already gone through that process and be just like green dragon...i guess the only way to find out is to drink it. bottoms up. thanks everyone

chisme
07-13-2006, 06:56 PM
there is no thc in seeds!

anycraic
07-13-2006, 09:33 PM
so if i was to get an eight of dank, throw it in a bottle of whiskey and leave it for a week, would that work?

PsychedelicSins
07-13-2006, 10:25 PM
I would go all out and just use everclear to be safe, or something with similar proof.

PsychedelicSins
07-13-2006, 10:30 PM
anybody with half a brain would have relise i was saying "truth" to when az pointed out it had to be heated.....funny this is....fuck it


Do you haphazardly talk out of your ass??

Az.
07-13-2006, 10:55 PM
You are patently wrong, man. THC IS fat and alcohol soluble.

Anybody with half a brain knows you can't eat a nugget and expect to get high, but if you do soak the weed in alcohol or cook it down with butter it will release the THC and other active substances into the medium.

I should know because I make a sort of hash oil using alcohol and hash. I soak the hash in the alcohol first and it separates the THC and other active ingredients from the inert plant matter and dirt. Then I strain out the remaining liquid from the solids left behind and cook it down over low heat. It forms a super-sticky, oily substance that I usually smoke by mixing with tobacco. It gets you very stoned...

Funny thing is: I learned how to do this from a friend who learned it from the Russians. They call it "hempka". There is a thread in the recipes forum.

I guess what I am trying to say is this: You don't have to smoke weed to get a buzz. This alcohol thing is completely scientific and feasible; however, the seeds probably have no THC in them so it would be just like somone else already said---a marketing gimmick.

The green dragon thing would work without heating the weed if you break it up and let it sit in some high proof alcohol. If this isn't the case then the "hempka" I am making would not work at all.

:smokin:

Yeah I enquired about that a while back
a guy posted instrustions how to do it........
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=10293&highlight=bunk
I wanted to try it....but haven't yet
It sounds really good :D

Im not trying to argue or anything...but how is eating uncooked weed any different than drinking uncooked weed?
Surely Your body would digest weed and absorb the THC (UNLESS the stomach acid destroys the THC....i only just though of that) but still surly some THC would be absorbed into the body before it reached the stomach?

PsychedelicSins
07-13-2006, 11:00 PM
D

Im not trying to argue or anything...but how is eating uncooked weed any different than drinking uncooked weed?



Because THC is alcohol soluble........

Az.
07-13-2006, 11:17 PM
What and it's not soluble in the stomach?
I just dont see how drinking alcohol THC is different from eating THC
maybe the alcohol allows it to enter the body?

OptimusPrime
07-14-2006, 12:12 AM
because your body has no way of getting the THC in to your blood stream when you just eat a nugget of weed, it just goes into your stomach and you digest it. THC needs some type of "carrier" like alcohol or fat.

PsychedelicSins
07-14-2006, 02:53 AM
I just dont see how drinking alcohol THC is different from eating THC
maybe the alcohol allows it to enter the body?

Like I said, its AlCoHol SolUbLe......

smoke it
07-14-2006, 02:59 AM
i had green dragon at a party once and got real fucked up its good shit

Az.
07-14-2006, 08:57 AM
Like I said, its AlCoHol SolUbLe......

oh ok, just I thought by weed being soluble in alcohol, meant that the weed was able to be dissolved in alcohol.
haha
So I thought weed would dissolve in the body aswell...

It makes sense now though!!
thanks :o

Binzhoubum
07-14-2006, 10:52 AM
Because THC is alcohol soluble........


Exactly...it's all about basic chemistry. I hate it when people tell me they ate a fresh bud and got stoned. Maybe they did in virtue of the placebo effect, but chemically that would be very difficult.

:smokin:

Binzhoubum
07-14-2006, 10:55 AM
Yeah I enquired about that a while back
a guy posted instrustions how to do it........
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=10293&highlight=bunk
I wanted to try it....but haven't yet
It sounds really good :D

Im not trying to argue or anything...but how is eating uncooked weed any different than drinking uncooked weed?
Surely Your body would digest weed and absorb the THC (UNLESS the stomach acid destroys the THC....i only just though of that) but still surly some THC would be absorbed into the body before it reached the stomach?

Nice link man! I never saw that before! :thumbsup:

If you need any further help just let me know. I make this stuff quite often. If you do go ahead and try it, please remember that VENTILATION is the most important factor in not catching yourself on fire.

My friend caught himself on fire once and burned off all his hair. He was lucky though since he didn't have any long-lasting scarring or anything...but I knew a Russian guy who cooked himself better bad once. However, I should say that both of these people were already under the influence when they were attempting to make it. HAHAHA! :stoned:

Az.
07-14-2006, 11:28 AM
Nice link man! I never saw that before! :thumbsup:

If you need any further help just let me know. I make this stuff quite often. If you do go ahead and try it, please remember that VENTILATION is the most important factor in not catching yourself on fire.

My friend caught himself on fire once and burned off all his hair. He was lucky though since he didn't have any long-lasting scarring or anything...but I knew a Russian guy who cooked himself better bad once. However, I should say that both of these people were already under the influence when they were attempting to make it. HAHAHA! :stoned:

LOL
I think if I did give it a go I would do it outside with camping stove.
Is that link I posted pretty much the same procedure as you use?

Binzhoubum
07-14-2006, 02:39 PM
This is what I do:

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68362

Don't use a camping stove unless it's a gas one where you can control the flame. I wouldn't attempt this using charcoal or anything 1) because you can't really control the heat, and 2) because some debris could fly into the charcoal or from the charcoal and hit the vapors from the alcohol and ignite into a massive fireball, resulting in not only personal injury but also the loss of your product. :(

Az.
07-15-2006, 12:31 AM
excelent!!

thanks for the link man!!

I will deffinatly try this out one day!!

haha il post the results :s

worldwid
05-01-2009, 11:42 PM
can i just say this to you guys........alcohol destroys thc,,,

How do you have so many posts, and so much rep, but know so little about THC and cannabis? Alcohol does not "destroy" THC.... It absorbs THC, just like butter and oil does. It does not destroy anything.



yes absorbs it, as in to destroy it if used in a bong....


Who said anything about using a bong? How is absorb the same thing about destroy? They are two entirely different things. You need to work on your language skills.... no one is even talking about smoking out of a bong... I think you hit your bong a bit to much


-- You then go on to say it must be heated for the THC to become active..... Have you ever made or heard of QWISO hash, or Hash Oil made with butane? Neither of these are heated.... Both of these can be swallowed without being heated....

You can also soak trim, buds, stems, etc in everclear, for 2-3 weeks to make a tincture, and all you have to do is shake it every day for the 2-3 weeks and your tincture will be done (commonly called Green Dragon), and all you have to do is drink it... NO heat involved.

_____________

The only thing you were right about, is there isn't any THC in seeds and the product is a sales gimmick, everything else you said shows how little you really know.... You should speak less and listen more.. You sound very arrogant for someone who probably has only been smoking for a few years at best...

I know this post is 3 years old, hopefully you wised up a bit since then.

JohnnyZ
05-02-2009, 12:26 AM
As if you just beaked someone from three years ago.. Get a life buddy. Go smoke a bowl instead of wasting bandwidth.

worldwid
05-02-2009, 01:18 AM
As if you just beaked someone from three years ago.. Get a life buddy. Go smoke a bowl instead of wasting bandwidth.

Some people bitch when you make duplicate posts, yelling at you to use the search button...

Other people (like you) bitch when people bump old threads.

Either way someone bitches...

Wasting bandwidth? That doesn't even make sense... A few KB's of bandwidth is nothing, if bandwidth was an issue the owner of this website wouldn't be running a forum.. He has gig's of bandwidth..... My dedicated server gets 5000 GB of bandwidth per month for only 239 per month....

As to getting a life, life is 'the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come'.

You are browsing the same forum, so if commenting on a forum means I need a life, guess who also needs one? :thumbsup:

Regardless, this post is three years old and was full of nonsense, posted by some tool who is a self proclaimed know it all.

JohnnyZ
05-02-2009, 01:35 AM
You obviously didn't smoke another bowl before you came back..

worldwid
05-02-2009, 01:38 AM
You obviously didn't smoke another bowl before you came back..

I just don't like when people spread false information, and then when questioned, get an arrogant attitude like the person I was responding to, did.

Whether you realize it or not, I made my post to inform people what is factual, and what is a falsity -- and to help people.

I'll heed your advice now, :rastasmoke: :rasta: -- because I did come off a little cranky.