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gotchA
07-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Israel Graduates from Killing Gazans to Lebanese

Now that Hezbollah has ??abducted? two Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, we can expect a ??wider Mideast military confrontation,? according to Bloomberg. Ehud Olmert holds ??Lebanon responsible for the fate of the missing soldiers,? who were captured near Aita al-Shaab on the Lebanese side of the border, that is to say the soldiers violated the sovereignty of Lebanon, a common occurrence.

??Israeli ground forces also crossed into Lebanon to hunt for the missing soldiers, Israeli Army Radio said,? reports Reuters, and then offers an excuse, per usual: ??Israeli troops have not struck deep into Lebanon since they withdrew from a southern border strip in 2000 after Hizbollah??s Shi??ite fighters waged an 18-year war of attrition against them,? in other words they resisted the illegal occupation of the southern part of their country, as they now resist the illegal occupation of the Shebaa Farms area and continual Israeli border provocations (and violations of Lebanese airspace by Israeli fighter jets). No mention of this by Reuters or Bloomberg.

Like the civilians of Gaza, the civilians of Lebanon will be required to pay for Hezbollah capturing prisoners of war.

??Army Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz warned the Lebanese government that the Israeli military will target infrastructure and ??turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years,?? if the soldiers were not returned, Israeli TV reported,? notes the Associated Press. Only a little bit of translation is required, as Israel does not usually mince words. Israel will destroy civilian infrastructure in Lebanon, as it did in Gaza, a violation of international humanitarian law. But then Israel in Palestine and Lebanon, as the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan, does not do international law.

Of course, the New York Times chimed in. ??The fighting erupted when Hezbollah attacked northern Israel with rocket fire this morning, injuring several Israeli civilians in the northwestern town of Shlomi, the Israeli military said. Israel responded with artillery fire and air strikes that targeted Hezbollah strongholds in southern Lebanon. Later, Israeli troops moved into southern Lebanon in the first such incursion since Israel pulled its troops back into Israel in 2000.? Reading the New York Times, or any other corporate media newspaper for that matter, you get the impression Hezbollah simply fires Katyusha rockets into northern Israel out of vindictiveness. Israel??s border provocations and targeting of Lebanese civilians is rarely mentioned.

In predictable fashion, Israel is now attacking Lebanese civilians in response to the ??abduction? (capture) of its soldiers. ??In southern Lebanon, Israeli fighter jets bombed five bridges in quick succession, effectively cutting off that region from the rest of the country. At least two Lebanese civilians were killed in one of the bridge strikes, civil defense officials said, and a power plant was badly damaged. Airstrikes hit the cities of Marjuyun and Kfar Shouba, and warships shelled roads connecting cities to each other.?

As expected, the Times chalks all of this up to an attempt to stop the movement of the ??kidnappers,? or resistance forces in engaged in a long tradition??taking prisoners during wartime. ??Troops entered Lebanon soon after the 9 a.m. abduction, striking 30 military and infrastructure targets in an effort to slow the movements of the gunmen holding the kidnapped soldiers.? Of course, destroying ??infrastructure targets? will not stop Hezbollah, although it will create a refugee problem and make life a living hell for Lebanese civilians. ??Scores of suddenly stranded Lebanese wandered back roads looking for a way home??their faces grim and worried, their belongings stuffed into plastic bags. Sirens wailed in the background.?

Since the 2000 ??pullback? (i.e., the Hezbollah resistance defeated Israel), the Israeli military has consistently attacked civilian infrastructure in Lebanon. In 2000, for instance, Israel targeted three key electric plants ??that limited power supplies to a few hours a day for Beirut and other parts of Lebanon,? as the Los Angeles Times noted at the time. As Israeli diplomat Abba Eban explained in 1981, attacking and slaughtering civilians is a ??rational prospect.? Hizbollah understands this policy all to well, as do the civilians of al-Mansouri, Majdal Zoune, Zibqin, Kafra, Yater, Eita al-Jabal, al-Ezizeh, and other Lebanese cities indiscriminately shelled by Israeli artillery over the years. A prime example of this brutality can be seen in the Israeli shelling of Qana, a village located southeast of Tyre, resulting in the killing of 106 civilians.

It should be obvious what is going on here??Olmert and the Likudites are escalating hostilities in the region in an effort to draw the United States in even more, the situation in Iraq not withstanding.

Olmert, the Likudites, and their neocon collaborators understand well the military prowess and red ink checkbook of the United States will be required to take on the Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians, and the Palestinians, long designated mortal enemies of the Israeli state. For as Israeli foreign policy expert Yehoshafat Harkabi noted in 1988, ??Israeli intentions to impose a Pax Israelica on the Middle East, to dominate the Arab countries and treat them harshly,? cannot be accomplished, considering current realities. ??Writing from a realist perspective, Harkabi concluded that Israel did not have the power to achieve that goal, given the strength of the Arab states, the large Palestinian population involved, and the vehement opposition of world opinion. He hoped that ??the failed Israeli attempt to impose a new order in the weakest Arab state??Lebanon??will disabuse people of similar ambitions in other territories.?? Left unconsidered by Harkabi was the possibility that the United States would act as Israel??s proxy to achieve the overall goal,? writes Stephen J. Sniegoski.

In fact, it appears this is precisely what Israel is attempting to do now. Soon enough, Israel will paint itself into a corner, unable to stem the growing tide of resentment and violent reaction, and will call on the United States to attack its enemies. Or, more to the point, Israel??s vocal choir in the United States will demand a response, beginning with Syria and eventually Iran, two targets already highlighted on the neocon hit list, the ??evil empire? roster.

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Doctor mj
07-13-2006, 10:35 PM
FUCK ISRAEL, What they are doing is complete disrespect and inhumane.
When will Peace Run thie world.

Bong30
07-13-2006, 10:38 PM
FUCK ISRAEL, What they are doing is complete disrespect and inhumane.
When will Peace Run thie world.
FUCK YOU...........

Doctor mj
07-13-2006, 10:43 PM
FUCK YOU...........

Prove me WHY?

Bong30
07-13-2006, 10:49 PM
Do you believe Isreal has a right to exist?


With a quote like FUCK ISREAL i know your answer..........

I hope Isreal turns Hezbolla and lebananon in to a sheet of fucking glass in the desert.

Its called Jihad Fuck Face................

Bong30
07-13-2006, 10:51 PM
Pisses me off. There is no such thing as Islamic Terrorist,
America and Israel are the real Terrorist and...

Are you out of your mind..............pull your head out of your ass kid

Bong30
07-13-2006, 10:54 PM
alumni??? is that like the illumanti thing? can you explain a bit more of this alumni.

go get an education son and come back when your political IQ is larger than room temp................Dumb ASS.

Bong30
07-13-2006, 10:55 PM
Prove me WHY?
Do you even speak english.........

Bong30
07-13-2006, 11:05 PM
Well i have a ISU (Independent Study Unit) due tomorrow.

Its about Canadian Law grade 11.

It would be cool if someone here has an old copy of their own, or someone interested in even doing it.
It...



You are Lazy and fucking dumb............................Fuck isreal............

NO FUCK YOU.......................

I am going for a bong rip before i kill this kid

Doctor mj
07-13-2006, 11:34 PM
ok first off i gotta say WOW.
2nd Im sure your the one with a high level of education and be able to prove anyone wrong because of a diploma or certificate.

Israel is Bombing Beirut International Airport for What? The kidnapping of 2 Israeli Soldiers! I mean first off What Lebonan did was wrong, but Just going to war from Gaza to Lebanon just like that, you know there is something wrong, I mean have some common sense, war is not the answer. "You want Lebanon to get bombed to a desert?" are you kidding me? How mature is that? Im sure you have a PHD in something especially with a picture of Mr.Incredible on ur Avatar. I mean dam, Israel is just as wrong as Lebanon, But Just going to straight up war and bombing Airports because of "guns smuggling" "terror cells" is ridiculous. Work together and solve everything, and i know its not the civilians in both countries, its just the powerful people behind it.
Now grow up and be more mature. I hope your not a 35 yr with kids saying Fuck you and Lebanon should turn into a dead desert. As I am 18 and probably have more knowledge than you.
Peace and Love

Doctor mj
07-13-2006, 11:36 PM
Do you believe Isreal has a right to exist?


With a quote like FUCK ISREAL i know your answer..........

I hope Isreal turns Hezbolla and lebananon in to a sheet of fucking glass in the desert.

Its called Jihad Fuck Face................

LOL i do believe Israel should exist, But why are they fighting?

"Jihad fuck face" wow grow up.

Bong30
07-13-2006, 11:45 PM
LOL i do believe Israel should exist, But why are they fighting?

"Jihad fuck face" wow grow up.

Why are they fighting...........?

For their Existence.................................try that to start


Hey Dr dipshit............Jews are NON believers.............. what does the Koran say should be done with them?

Doctor mj
07-13-2006, 11:55 PM
Get the fuck outta here with the Quran, This is not a religious Issue, This is about innocent murders. Listen im not pro islam or pro christianity.
My religion is the Human Race as One.

Please make it clear that you have kids and probably and that you are 35 yr with nothing else to do, but Curse at 18 yrs on a Cannabis Forum.
You are clearly Anti Islam, from reading your past Post. Look in the mirror smoke some real Cannabis and open your mind and look for peace,
Now put down the glass crack pipe and drop the bible and quran and look for peace within yourself. Anyone who takes the Bible or Quran to heart is a complete wacko or moron. You have kids and you swear to me like you are 13 yrs old.

Great Spirit
07-14-2006, 01:41 AM
Why are they fighting...........?

For their Existence.................................try that to start


Hey Dr dipshit............Jews are NON believers.............. what does the Koran say should be done with them?Realize that the Illuminati set up Israel as a puppet state. IT IS NOT THE ISRAEL FROM THE SCRIPTURES!!! I by no means advocate killing of innocents, but when you suddenly take someone else's land, even though they have been gone from there for thousands of years, just for the hell of it...than yes problems will be created!!!

This "Israel" really doesn't have a right to exist if it was meant to instigate war.

BuenoMota
07-14-2006, 07:32 AM
Bong30 it is you that is the idiot. Are you even aware of the situation in palestine? Fuck isreal. They are fucking discusting.

Cooler Then Jesus
07-14-2006, 07:22 PM
can bong and dr mj apologize to eachother, and a mod close this thread?

its only a political disagreement guys, dont say fuck isreal, dont say fuck you, say FUCK THE MEDIA.

Fengzi
07-14-2006, 07:51 PM
Isreal does tend to get away with a lot more than most countries do. The rest of the world should be able to criticize their actions without immediately being labled as anti-Semetic. Wrong is wrong, it doesn't matter if you're a Jew, Arab, Black, White, or even (gasp) George Bush. That being said, when you are surrounded by countries that despise your very existance you can't help but have an itchy trigger finger.

Just goes to show that Mao was right about one thing- "Religion is poison"

kingjustin
07-14-2006, 08:34 PM
Wow so things definately got heated up quick in this thread.
It's a very long string of events that have come full circle now. It started ( and this is an irresputable fact) when land was taken from the palestinians and given to Israel. Granted, most of the neighboring countries hate Israel and do attempt to drive them away at EVERY FUCKING TURN.
What it all boils down to is a very overt fanatiscm, coupled with a valid land dispute and a couple o' nuts thrown in the mix. The soldiers from Israel SHOULD NOT have been in Lebanon- they breeched borders and were captured, not abducted. I highly doubt that these two soldiers were strolling through Lebanon, reading tourist brochures about local fishing contests when the "bad men" came and swept them away. A good parallel to this is when the US soldiers were in china because of that spy plane crash. Yes, they were held captive, but they also got there in a spy plane. SPY PLANE. Doesn't hold up very well in an argument:
" China, we're going to beat you up because you've got our friends locked in a bedroom at your mom's house"
" They were in the house already. I just locked the door."
" Oh. Care for a cup of coffee?"

I assume you get my point at this point. They ( conflicted middle eastern countries in general) are in a metaphorical hell-hole because they all believe that they own something, and that their god said that they're right, you're wrong, and you smell funny. Mother Earth is here for us all, you can't really prove that it's yours. Chill.

kingjustin
07-14-2006, 08:36 PM
And Fengzi is right. Israel does get away with a lot lot lot more shit than the other " terrorist countries" do.
Fair and equal, people.

eg420ne
07-15-2006, 04:51 PM
Im scared of saying anything about anything related to Israel, fear of being label a anti-semite..........Israel is a land, Zionist is a movement & jews are people just like everyone else, why should people hold their thoughts for one group of people...I see others talking up a storm over Arabs but dont say anything about their brothers..........O Is Rael where art thou....

nicholasstanko
07-15-2006, 05:29 PM
This certainly heats up matters. I think the title of this topic thread is a little sensationalistic. Israel has already occupied lebanon once. It must be terrifying for them to ponder having to endure another one.

Remember, this isn't a war...yet. I see that both Syria and Lebanon are calling for help from their brothers. This must be pleasing to Iran to a certain extent.

Both sides seem to be gearing up for something big. I think everyone knew this was coming sooner or later. I cheer nor jeer either side. Let them have at it. All I know is that we should be ready to stand and defend our own when the time comes.

The politicicians decide the moves we make. We never stop them. We never will. I'm just being real. The only thing I care about is keeping my family and friends safe. I'm not willing to justify the actions of a government speaking on my behalf. But i am willing to recognise the true price of the quality of our way of life.


That's why the hippies grew up.

Psycho4Bud
07-15-2006, 05:42 PM
I'm not willing to justify the actions of a government speaking on my behalf. But i am willing to recognise the true price of the quality of our way of life.


That's why the hippies grew up.

Nich???? Is this really you? LOL....you sound similar to a republican! LOL j/k

Hope all is well....have a good one!:thumbsup: