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dezire2feel
07-09-2006, 05:04 AM
My fellow beings, I see threads on here about what would you ask god. You say Why god Why? Why all the rapists, murderers, molesters? The answer does not lie in god, but in us. God did not create this world, we did. God is perfect. A perfect god does not create imperfectness. If he did, he would not be perfect.

the fact is god does not know our world. He only knows truth. Truth is not found here. Truth is found when we crucify the ego and return to the sonship. Sonship being that we are all 1. 1 heart, mind and soul. Our bodies are false for our bodies die. That which dies is false. Only our spirit is true. We can reach spirit when we deny ego and emplify love. Unconditional love, the same love god has for us and one day we all have for our brother.

Binzhoubum
07-09-2006, 05:19 AM
How do you know this is imperfect?

Perhaps because of our imperfections we are unable to sense just how perfect the world is...

Perhaps we DO live in a perfect world but are simply unaware of it...

Maybe God did this on purpose...if everything were perfect we wouldn't even be able to understand what the word perfect means...it needs a direct contrast such as day/night, hungry/full, black/white...

:stoned:

PsychedelicSins
07-09-2006, 05:22 AM
Blaming God for the actions of man is a common misconception, ive seen it here many times. It dissapoints me to see such lack of faith. I do not blame you for thinking so, for it is not your fault. The blame will be yours after reading this and still laying the blame on God. Even if God didnt exsist the blame would still be human nature.

Your ego is your curse, if you wish to rid yourself of this curse, you may ingest a high dose of psilocybin mushrooms. Your ego is forbidden from where psilocybin takes you. I have talked with people who say they dont experience the ego loss with even the highest doses, which is possible. A golden rule of mine is to always have a purpose with which I seek to gain further insight from "another perspective". I attain ego loss everytime and am reborn. The next day i feel rejuvinated and clean and awake. Personally I really need this cleansing a few times a year to keep my head on straight. To me psilocybin is a gift from God to you as it has almost limitless applications all of which have not been tapped into. Only recently has psilocybin been used medically to help terminally ill patients cope with death and letting go of life...

Hamlet
07-09-2006, 05:36 AM
Unfortunately if there is a god he would have been the one to create it. He would have set up the rules-big fish eats little fish; survival of the fittest; the weak shall perish as prey for the strong, etc...

If you've ever considered the stark cruelty of nature; the way a wasp will capture an aracnid as a living slave to feed its young, or how one thing mercilessly devours, smothers, poisons or strangles another, etc., you begin to realize the designer (if there was one) had no use for any warm and fuzzy live and let live philosophy.

So I guess it's up to us. Frankly I'm surprised we're not worse than we are. In fact I'm a little hopeful that in the scheme of things we've put Nature on a leash and, in doing so, told the designer to bite our butts-we don't want to play that way.

So maybe in a way we're little gods in godschool and we get to make our own rules. Then in a million years we'll figure out a better way to do it and set up the utopia we all long for. Until then we've got a tuff row to hoe.

Binzhoubum
07-09-2006, 05:56 AM
Am I the only person that finds Nature beautiful no matter how cruel or merciful?

:smokin:

PsychedelicSins
07-09-2006, 06:28 AM
It wouldnt be beautiful if it didnt have the "cruelty" to it. It is the way it is because of that. Its a cycle and if you focus on parts of it, it can seem "cruel" but when you look at it as a whole, its breath-taking.

Hamlet
07-09-2006, 06:43 AM
No, not at all-I agree. She's quite dazzling in her elegance and symetry--truly a beauty beyond compare. But don't mistake her for a minute as a loving goddess. She would devour you in a heartbeat to maintain that beauty.

Yeah, I know...kind of a downer. Sorry about that. It's a philosophy developing in me from real world experience--a work in progress :)

I'm no great mind for sure-just a mediocre man in a mediocre world; but I want to see things as they really are and not bullshit myself. Unfortunately a truth isn't always what I want it to be, but I'm never going to make any progress going through life with the blinders on.

Polymirize
07-09-2006, 07:41 AM
let's take off the sugercoated glasses, shall we?

The world is simply what it is, and our understanding of it as good or bad is purely subject, and relative to our position within that world.

I'm sure quite a lot of our contradictions in understanding do arise from the ego. And as much of a fan of mushrooms as I am, I don't think they're a quick solution to the problem. Rather, I think they can create whole new problems in which one thinks they're becoming enlightened, but through the use of mushrooms rather than through development as a person. What a bitter trip that would be, huh?

beachguy in thongs
07-09-2006, 10:54 AM
Am I the only person that finds Nature beautiful no matter how cruel or merciful?

:smokin:

Nature's so beautiful that we can bond with it and make ourselves "True" by furthering evolution, activating our cannabinoid receptors to their fullest potential, and consuming the power and beauty that Nature holds.

Binzhoubum
07-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Nature's so beautiful that we can bond with it and make ourselves "True" by furthering evolution, activating our cannabinoid receptors to their fullest potential, and consuming the power and beauty that Nature holds.


I agree...I am also drinking a gin and tonic...AHHHHH!!!!! Nature is truly refreshing.

:stoned:

Do you think God drinks gin and tonics?:confused:

dezire2feel
07-09-2006, 12:03 PM
How do you know this is imperfect?

Perhaps because of our imperfections we are unable to sense just how perfect the world is...

Perhaps we DO live in a perfect world but are simply unaware of it...

Maybe God did this on purpose...if everything were perfect we wouldn't even be able to understand what the word perfect means...it needs a direct contrast such as day/night, hungry/full, black/white...

:stoned:

With God having a undescribable love for his children, I don't believe he would purposely subject us to murder, war and the like. No, this wurld is indeed not perfect, but there are times when we do get a little touch of heaven; a sunset in the mountains, an undiscovered waterfall, but it all fails in comparson to what one day we shall all have.

DonnieDarko
07-09-2006, 12:12 PM
God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
John Lennon

beachguy in thongs
07-09-2006, 04:55 PM
I agree...I am also drinking a gin and tonic...AHHHHH!!!!! Nature is truly refreshing.

:stoned:

Do you think God drinks gin and tonics?:confused:

Probably, God doesn't need to drink. I'll have a bourbon & coke, though, thanks. :smokin:

poorprincess
07-09-2006, 06:29 PM
God loves imperfection

PureEvil760
07-09-2006, 06:53 PM
As we approach December 21, 2012 more are more people will begin to rise up to the light. As more people do this the easier it will be for others. Humans are perfect creative beings. Ego is the trickster, it tells us we are separate from god and that we cannot have perfection. Also it tricks you into thinking you have risen above it, when in reality it is only stronger! There is no such thing as the dark side spiritualy, it is a human created attribute.

It's hard to explain because words are truely useless when it comes to stepping into the light. You have to gain a sence of self love and self worth and this leads to unconditional love of others. Everyones like I'm right! NO! IM RIGHT! no ur wrong! what mother fucker?! The truth remains the truth regardless of what you or others choose to believe. What is the "truth"? No clue, words can't describe it. The basis of all life and the workings of the universe is Joy. If your not seeing the angels, spirits, colors and experiencing the eternal Love and peace of spirit. Then your not experiencing reality.

dezire2feel
07-09-2006, 09:52 PM
God loves imperfection


I appreciate your thought but I believe God does not love imperfection cause he does not recognize it. He would not be perfect if imperfectness caught his fancy.

Polymirize
07-10-2006, 06:10 AM
I appreciate your thought but I believe God does not love imperfection cause he does not recognize it. He would not be perfect if imperfectness caught his fancy.

So God is perfect because he ignores stuff? I find the workings of your thoughts to be fascinating.

And on a more serious note, God loves gin and tonic. He is both the drinker, and the gin and tonic itself. Mmmmm, tastes like God.

:smokin:

Binzhoubum
07-10-2006, 07:40 AM
With God having a undescribable love for his children, I don't believe he would purposely subject us to murder, war and the like. No, this wurld is indeed not perfect, but there are times when we do get a little touch of heaven; a sunset in the mountains, an undiscovered waterfall, but it all fails in comparson to what one day we shall all have.

That's a pretty presumptuous thing to say...How do you know what God's plan is for the universe? Because you read it in a book written by HUMANS?!?!?!

:smokin:

PS I am pretty sure you mean "pales in comparison"

poorprincess
07-10-2006, 04:50 PM
I appreciate your thought but I believe God does not love imperfection cause he does not recognize it. He would not be perfect if imperfectness caught his fancy.

your completely right of course. I dont know anything about God. It'd be presumptuous to say I did. But what the hell makes anyone think GOD is perfect? Did he not create man as a reflection of himself? "in his image"? Maybe God has problems.

beachguy in thongs
07-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Did he not create man as a reflection of himself? "in his image"?

Did he not create the dinosaurs, first?

If we're evolving, then we are in the process of becoming his image.

Polymirize
07-10-2006, 06:27 PM
If we're evolving, then we are in the process of becoming his image.

Maybe God's evolving too...

beachguy in thongs
07-10-2006, 10:10 PM
You say Why god Why?

Try Bud Dry. :smokin:

{EVER SEE THAT COMMERCIAL?}

poorprincess
07-29-2006, 06:03 PM
Did he not create the dinosaurs, first?

If we're evolving, then we are in the process of becoming his image.

are you saying we evolved from dinosaurs? Is that what your saying? Seriously? Cuz I really loved that mario movie when I was a kid....well... I still like it..

poorprincess
07-29-2006, 06:05 PM
Maybe God's evolving too...

from a dinosaur or a monkey?

poorprincess
07-29-2006, 06:07 PM
So maybe in a way we're little gods in godschool and we get to make our own rules. Then in a million years we'll figure out a better way to do it and set up the utopia we all long for. Until then we've got a tuff row to hoe.

or maybe we all got here by accident and Aslan is going to kick us out of Narnia

beachguy in thongs
07-29-2006, 08:23 PM
I think I may have your glass slipper, poorprincess. :smokin: The Dinosaurs could've evolved into God, but, they're wiped out. There are a few ancestors, I think. These weird looking egrets look like one.

It is possible that cats and dogs are evolving into God, also.

Hamlet
07-29-2006, 09:56 PM
I remember that Mario movie! I didn't see Narnia though. Figured it was just a LoTR wannabe.

what if god were one of ussss..just a stranger on the bussss....la la laaa..la

beachguy in thongs
07-29-2006, 10:53 PM
I kind of don't know what your talking about. I remember Sister Nadia, or, Sisters of Narnia, or something.

weirdo79
07-30-2006, 07:49 AM
According to paleontologists all birds come from lizards, dino's being lizards etc some evolved into modern day tiny lizards(the dino's not the birds ;)). Dinosaurs never truly became extinct just the specific species :).

I oftentimes wonder if theres some "star trekky" like omnipotent evolved beings like whatever those things are called (googling) ahhh Q's thats the thing I was thinking about. I dont buy into the "one god overall" but I could see many things we would consider "godlike". Betting we wont find out till were dead (although if thats oblivion then we wont care then either so its a win/win situation :) ).