FACTS ON SATIVA / INDICA

[mobay]

Indica- sativa hybrids naturally tend toward the indica side of the family. they usually have controlled height. they dont grow very tall and after forcing flowering, their growth is limited. their side branches are usually not prominent and they can be grown in small spaces. indica grow under 5foot tall plants.

Sativa- indica hybrids tend toward the sativa parentage. they are taller plants, and will double or triple their size if they are forced when they are small. they are usually hard to grow in a sea of green, as the plants demand more space to spread out. sativa grows into 5-15 foot tall plants.

remember this info when ordering your seeds

[Jdog7000]

Good info.
Also keep in mind your plants will double in size if Indica and possibly triple in size for a sativa when you start flowering.

[Garden Knowm]

Also remember.... only grow indica.. LOL

[GaGrown]

AMEN to that,Knowm!LOL! Indica is the best to me!As far as the efforts you put into the grow! Alot more time can be had for yourself,rather than tending to the sativas!SHEW!

Ga Grown

[grow4fun]

I like the more Indica types too because of the compact growth pattern (btw, Matanuska Mist is the most short-and-stocky of the [high-quality] plants that Iâ??ve seen so far). Butâ?¦.. Iâ??ve had major room-temperature problems lately (and in the past), and whenever thatâ??s happened the Indicas just donâ??t hardly produce any resin (although they still look really healthy and green). Almost every Indica grow, Iâ??ve always had a few Sativa-like plants mixed in. Sometimes by choice, sometimes by accident (Trainwreck and Purple in the past, this time Banana).
Growing side-by-side, itâ??s amazing the difference in quality â?? in the quantity of resin on the buds. The Banana is encrusted with resin (as the Trainwreck and Purple had been), whereas the Indica-dominant Matanuskas growing right next to them have less than half as much (about 35%).
Iâ??ve also found that in these conditions the harvest weight is actually much bigger with the more Sativa-like strains. The same plants that people always say are the low-yielders (they say that about Purple and Trainwreck), those are the only plants that do give me a good yield/weight. Because they end up resiny and the resin is the weight. The â??big yielderâ?? Indicas (for instance Matanuska) have ended up with a pitiful yield under those conditions; a lot of it wasnâ??t resiny enough to make good buds and went into the trim, and the overall weight was low due to not much resin.
Now looking at these gorgeous frosted Bananas sitting right next to pretty much schwag-looking Matanuskas (and Matanuska is a good strain, always hear people raving about the large yield and quality), the idea struck me that maybe Sativas still do good even in extreme heat, whereas the Indicas canâ??t handle it. The Sativas do come from the hot part of the world. 100 degree temps like Iâ??ve got in my room right now are probably normal in the tropics. But in northern latitudes where Indicas come fromâ?¦â?¦â?¦..
In high-heat situations the lanky Sativa might be desireable because of the heat-resistance. Better to have some lanky plants with dense, resiny buds than short, thick ones with colas that are dry and un-resiny.
Has anyone else noticed this?

[orangeman]

I think it sucks that Sativa strains grow so tall because I really wanna try to grow a sativa dominant strain when I grow on the inside. Even though by preference and not by choice I like Indica more I dont wanna keep on growing the same species over and over lol.

[GaGrown]

Orange,
Ya gotta do it 1 time! It's fine if you can keep them short! Ha Ha! Right! Do it anyway! If not just for the sheer pleasure of couch lock! Yup! Couch lock! It'll set your ass on the couch kinda shit! Narcotic! It's starting to have a sweet peppery smell.Man it smells GREAT! 1 time for the home team! I'll be rootin' for ya!

Ga Grown

[BukDatAss]

I'm a Sativa man, I havent grown it yet but my next will be ALL SATIVA

[s12fever]

15ft tall plant???!!!? jesus christ!

[Garden Knowm]

I'm a Sativa man, I havent grown it yet but my next will be ALL SATIVA


you better grow outside!!

LOL

[Opie Yutts]

Nearly any plant can be 15 inches tall or 15 feet or take up the space of an entire warehouse, if you so desire.

[plastik]

well I know I began flowering my 6 inch sativa at 3 weeks veg (from 2 inch cutting) and after 2 weeks of that, it has grown to 2ft. Sativa's are good inside, if you train and LST them...or want to devote one light to each plant. I prefer the sativa high over the indica..just my liking..and actually..alot of people will agree. From what I've seen, but from what people don't make it out to be, Sativa is the dominant choice of what people like from their high. Sativa is more of a mental medicine, while indica is more of a physical medicine. But based on your needs, equipment and conditions, indica is far easier to grow, than sativa. And yes, sativa CAN with stand 100f weather without any serious side effects..I have seen this first hand, day after day. I believe the plants have a mechanism that lowers its temp by 10f..so even if it is at 100, it is still at around 90 for the plant..plus it also provides itself shade. It's not soo much the temp of the light, but more the temp of the air around the plant. This can all be done without CO2. When asked what their favorite strain at the cannabis cup held in vancouver, most, nearly all who were asked, replied with sativa. I'd say for myself, it mostly depends on what kind of mood your in also...But also, think about taking sativa at day, and indica at night.


One thing, I don't agree completely with the first post. There are many sativa/indica strains that basicly give the sativa like buds and high, yet retain the indica yield and size. And he didn't even state a real description of a hybrid..he basicly only stated minor details of what pure indica or sativa characteristics are like. I'm sorry, but this is already widely known knowledge. And it is obvious that a plant that is more sativa or more indica will have more of the dominant characteristics. Thats just common sense.
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Indica- sativa hybrids naturally tend toward the indica side of the family. they usually have controlled height. they dont grow very tall and after forcing flowering, their growth is limited. their side branches are usually not prominent and they can be grown in small spaces. indica grow under 5foot tall plants.

Sativa- indica hybrids tend toward the sativa parentage. they are taller plants, and will double or triple their size if they are forced when they are small. they are usually hard to grow in a sea of green, as the plants demand more space to spread out. sativa grows into 5-15 foot tall plants.
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[mobay]

plastik this info i posted was for some of the newer growers in here, that dont know which kind of seeds to buy when their ready.it wasnt for you to be downgrading what i posted. if you already knew all the important, technical details of the 2 you could have just added to the 1st post, not degrade what some one else has shared. thats just common sense.

[slowthestone]

Time and patience folks.

8' ceiling, the shelf is at 6'. The arrow shows the top of the plant.

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This is the main stem shown bent over the shelf.
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Shows the tie down point.
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Blue arrow pointing to 2nd plant bent over the shelf.
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[Garden Knowm]

Mobay.. you actually read long ass posts like that... : )

LOL

[Jdog7000]

I didn't.
Is that LIP?

It'isn't that hard to grow sativa indoors guys.
You are all forgeting the main plus to growing inside.
You are god.
You control the lights.
So clone a sativa and flower that clone as soon as it roots.
You'll end up with a sativa plant the sixe of an indica.

Not to mentipon curtain sativa's grow like indica with sativa shaped buds.
Like NYCDiesel for example.

[Jdog7000]

And C99.
You just need to pick your strain and flower early.
It's easy.

[Djurdjevic]

Growing Sativas indoors is a bitch, if you do, be prepared to bend em over.

Ive noticed they stop growing when the top meets resistance though , it seems like it feels a ceiling and tells itself to stop growing taller.

[Opie Yutts]

Garden Knowm, you shouldn't downgrade mobay for downgrading plastik for originally downgrading mobay.

Wait, I shouldn't be downgrading Garden Knowm.

[Opie Yutts]

Who can we downgrade, again?

[Shallow Hal]

pick me !!! pick me!!!!:D

[GaGrown]

I'm the one for sure! Mr Opie!

Ga Grown

[Opie Yutts]

Maybe we should have a vote.

[Methyl3]

I like the more Indica types too because of the compact growth pattern (btw, Matanuska Mist is the most short-and-stocky of the [high-quality] plants that Iâ??ve seen so far). Butâ?¦.. Iâ??ve had major room-temperature problems lately (and in the past), and whenever thatâ??s happened the Indicas just donâ??t hardly produce any resin (although they still look really healthy and green). Almost every Indica grow, Iâ??ve always had a few Sativa-like plants mixed in. Sometimes by choice, sometimes by accident (Trainwreck and Purple in the past, this time Banana).
Growing side-by-side, itâ??s amazing the difference in quality â?? in the quantity of resin on the buds. The Banana is encrusted with resin (as the Trainwreck and Purple had been), whereas the Indica-dominant Matanuskas growing right next to them have less than half as much (about 35%).
Iâ??ve also found that in these conditions the harvest weight is actually much bigger with the more Sativa-like strains. The same plants that people always say are the low-yielders (they say that about Purple and Trainwreck), those are the only plants that do give me a good yield/weight. Because they end up resiny and the resin is the weight. The â??big yielderâ?? Indicas (for instance Matanuska) have ended up with a pitiful yield under those conditions; a lot of it wasnâ??t resiny enough to make good buds and went into the trim, and the overall weight was low due to not much resin.
Now looking at these gorgeous frosted Bananas sitting right next to pretty much schwag-looking Matanuskas (and Matanuska is a good strain, always hear people raving about the large yield and quality), the idea struck me that maybe Sativas still do good even in extreme heat, whereas the Indicas canâ??t handle it. The Sativas do come from the hot part of the world. 100 degree temps like Iâ??ve got in my room right now are probably normal in the tropics. But in northern latitudes where Indicas come fromâ?¦â?¦â?¦..
In high-heat situations the lanky Sativa might be desireable because of the heat-resistance. Better to have some lanky plants with dense, resiny buds than short, thick ones with colas that are dry and un-resiny.
Has anyone else noticed this?


It's definately strain related. Sativas orgins are from geographic areas where temperature and humidity is usually higher then where Indicas are from. The Sativas are from an area where since it is hot and vegetation growth is high. Many plants in a confined area will compete for the sun light, hence making the plants have to grow vertically in order to compete. In the Indica regions, the stature of competeting plants are shorter and in turn the Indica species tends to be able to grow lower (since there is not as much vertical competition).

[Jdog7000]

Growing Sativas indoors is a bitch, if you do, be prepared to bend em over.

Ive noticed they stop growing when the top meets resistance though , it seems like it feels a ceiling and tells itself to stop growing taller.


This is true if you have no common sense.:thumbsup:
Like I said flower it early and it isn't a problem.

[GaGrown]

jdog,
They are just gonna really,have to grow it theirselves! That way you'll be sure to find out what not to do! Some things happen during a grow that is beyond your control! Things like equipment failure,bulbs,ballast,pumps,etc.... You get the picture.I went through some serious drama with this Jack Herer! It's all GOOD! I'd do it again! Simply because I learned what not to do! Knowing what to do just comes natural !

Ga Grown

[s12fever]

Mobay.. you actually read long ass posts like that... : )

LOL

lol
...
i know that you know Knowm. Knowm knows what you think i Knowm but you dont know do you Knowm? i know knowm, he knows no knowm like i know no knowm. DO YOU KNOWM? no, knowm. you dont know.

LOL...! i could go on for days...

[Jdog7000]

jdog,
They are just gonna really,have to grow it theirselves! That way you'll be sure to find out what not to do! Some things happen during a grow that is beyond your control! Things like equipment failure,bulbs,ballast,pumps,etc.... You get the picture.I went through some serious drama with this Jack Herer! It's all GOOD! I'd do it again! Simply because I learned what not to do! Knowing what to do just comes natural !

Ga Grown

Those problems have nothing to do with indica or sativa though.
If you flower sativa as soon as it roots.
It is no different to grow then indica.

[Garden Knowm]

Garden Knowm, you shouldn't downgrade mobay for downgrading plastik for originally downgrading mobay.

Wait, I shouldn't be downgrading Garden Knowm.

LOL

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GaGrown]

I know none of that has to do with what you flower! Indica or Sativa!But it does have to do with with when! Like at what height or age! I learned you need flower sativa early as you can 8 or 10 inches.I learned that before they flowered.You and I had a post as to when they would stop reaching for the lights. I just never grew a strain such as this and let it go a bit longer than I should have! That was just to get enough cutting to put outside. They are crazy beautiful,in the full sun!Should start to flower in about a month or less?

Ga Grown

[Mr. Ganja]

Look at the size of this biznitch.

[Garden Knowm]

Yeah BOY!!!!
Is that yours?

[jamstigator]

Interesting how the bud growth forms into a pseudo-double-helix pattern, like DNA. As Spock would say if he was jonesing for a tasty bud, "Fascinating."

[BukDatAss]

This Sativa talk is gettin me all worked up:eek: I must grow my seedS NOW

[orangeman]

I think these look like Sativa dominant strains, am I correct? :). Dont mind the guy smokin, he's just one of my fav rappers (probably because he's a pothead lol).

[Opie Yutts]

Mr. Ganga that is realy cool. Kinda like topiary landscape shrubs. Hmmm I got an idea.

[GaGrown]

It won't work out,Opie! They will smell that pretty lil' plant growing beside your front door!Topiairy! Shunk #1 is as topiairy as I'm goin'! Nah! You know I don't hold no grudge!Did ya eyes light up like a bulb?LOL Had them Crack eyes,huh? Wide open!Kiddin' Opie! Just a thought!Were even!Maybe we can get,:stoned: You know we'll laugh about all this! Yup! I'm stoned as hell!

Ga Grown!:thumbsup:

[LimpBizkitRMV04]

seems to me as of now my indica looks like its gonna be bigger then my sativa how could this be ? maybe they will change during flowering or something

[mobay]

yeah BIG BUK dust off that equipment and get ta growin, show us how its supposed to be grown. i still cant get over those massive buds you had in your other avitar

[GaGrown]

seems to me as of now my indica looks like its gonna be bigger then my sativa how could this be ? maybe they will change during flowering or something

I had some Indica that grew to about 7 feet!Outdoors! They were really unusually big! I got the soil recipe!Duke sold it to me along with the Bush's Baked Beans RecipeLot's and lot's of work those plants were!Lemme see.... It was about 1997.That was some sweet ass smoke!:stoned: All for personal consumption,of course!Yeah! dust that light off!

Ga Grown

[Mr. Ganja]

Nah, that plant is not mine. I was just giving an example of how big pure sativas can and will get in a tropical weather around the equator.

But I can confirm that the plants get that big because I've seen sativas that big in India and Bangladesh, the biggest one's were over 20 feet by the end of April.

[Jsacosta]

Hi i got question if you dont mind i got sativa similar to yours but only about 4ft tall and it's about 3 and ahalf months old now but i'm not really sure if it's budding quite yet it's just getting on the 12/12 cycyle but do have any detailed pics would be most helpful?
thank's

[mikos]

I've always grown sativas (2y) because I like them but i'm about to start with indicas next grow season coz I feel i'm not getting the most of it coz of the lighting. They stretch too much and I end up cutting the side branches all the times coz they won't get enough light. I do top once at the 5 or 7th node (I know it "should" be less but I like this way) and if I top again each end - 4 counting with the next 2 lower nodes before the 2 main ones - it will need more veg time to develop or else it won't develop good enough in flowering stage to have thick buds.
I've once forced flower at 3 weeks a critical + and it went out sweet giving 20grams of good bud but normally I veg for 1,5 / 2 months and the flower forcing is too space consuming in height.
With 400w hps and a 1,5 meter plants too much lower/side branches go to the bin of "low potency" crop. It's a big waste i'm about to give up to Indicas. With indicas all of the plant seems to take great light. We'll see then. Ah another thing is the smell - I had one unknown indica and it smelled pretty bad and I said no more to that so probably another reason I continued with sativas.
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Any PERSONAL advice (not on what those marketing seedbanks description sites say - that I can read myself thx) on neutral smell indicas would be nice.
Btw if you care to reply and thx in advance for that the only sites I buy from https://www.lamota.org/lamota/index.asp and Kayagrowshops | GROW SHOP ONLINE (http://www.kayagrowshops.com/) Not pub. definitely but if i'm happy with them why should I change? I always clone 1time from mother (seed) and end up at least with 3 to 6 clones to bud so I don't need to buy seeds that many times. 2 times a year I think. Cheers.