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mad5387
06-30-2006, 09:20 PM
I wanted to know the best time to water the plants when in 12/12 flowering.
It makes sense to me not to water just before the dark period cause without the light I dont see how the plant can use the water up. Now I am watering at the beginning of the light period and giving them a little blast of wind then just a gentle breeze for an hour or so. I just want to water at the best time .
Thanks
Sweet Leaf Dreams

Pothead4204life
06-30-2006, 10:59 PM
you can water right when the lights turn on...

plastik
07-01-2006, 01:38 AM
if you are using DWC you can water them 24/7..and if oxygen is a problem then add airstones.

Garden Knowm
07-01-2006, 03:08 AM
PLASTIK, your AV is freaking KILLING me... i just wanna jam my fingers in your nostrils.. three stooges style

LOL..


I like to water when the lights come ON...

: )

plastik
07-01-2006, 03:18 AM
LOL...its bubbles from trailer park boys... :dance:

Opie Yutts
07-01-2006, 04:57 AM
Reminds me of the guy on Office Space. "OK, but this is really the last straw this time" Very funny avitar. Very funny movie.

People say to water them in the morning, or what you similate to be morning. Why? I don't think you could give me a good enough expaination for this. Outdoors it rains at any time of the day, and the plant do quite nicely. They aren't that damn smart or picky. Just water them a little before they dry out.

Garden Knowm
07-01-2006, 05:56 AM
FYI

caged zoo animals exhibit all the sexual behaviors of humans..

anal, sodomy, rape, masturbation, heterosexuality, homosexuality, etcetera..

mad5387
07-01-2006, 05:57 AM
Cool Thanks I will keep watering at lights on.

Opie Yutts
07-03-2006, 02:32 AM
FYI

caged zoo animals exhibit all the sexual behaviors of humans..

anal, sodomy, rape, masturbation, heterosexuality, homosexuality, etcetera..

Yes, I don't get your point. Wild animals do too.

Garden Knowm
07-03-2006, 06:31 AM
I don' t have a point... it's a message

: )

iwantFUEGO
07-03-2006, 06:56 AM
sorry i dont knowm yet... ;P

iwantFUEGO
07-03-2006, 06:59 AM
i usually water when the lights come... but last time i watered i did it when the lights turned off (in the morning) because i had just woken up and noticed the soil was dry...
Now its been 1 1/2 days since last watering and shes just starting to flower... do you think i can wait to water tommorow night or will she dry out in 12 hours? Im only worried cuz shes just now starting to show pistils and i dont want to stress her at all.
thanks.

Garden Knowm
07-04-2006, 05:22 AM
stick your finger in the soil.. is it moist?

if it is moist... don't water.. if it is bone dry.. water...

an NOW you KNOWM

MegaOctane12
07-04-2006, 05:13 PM
Reminds me of the guy on Office Space. "OK, but this is really the last straw this time" Very funny avitar. Very funny movie.

People say to water them in the morning, or what you similate to be morning. Why? I don't think you could give me a good enough expaination for this. Outdoors it rains at any time of the day, and the plant do quite nicely. They aren't that damn smart or picky. Just water them a little before they dry out.


Why? Because Photosynthesis takes place during the day.


Carbon Dioxide+ WATER + Light -----> Glucose+Oxygen+Water. Watering at the very start of the day will mean the plant has adequate water for when the sun comes up. That's pretty much common knowledge, scary some people who supposidly are in the business of plants don't know this.

Opie Yutts
07-06-2006, 06:55 AM
I don' t have a point... it's a message

: )

Is there a point in your message?

Opie Yutts
07-06-2006, 06:59 AM
stick your finger in the soil.. is it moist?

if it is moist... don't water.. if it is bone dry.. water...

an NOW you KNOWM

I agree. This is really one of the most reliable methods to tell if you need to water. Also watch for soil pulling away from the side of the container, and feel how light the container is. With a little practice you will be able to tell using either one of these ways too.

Opie Yutts
07-06-2006, 07:10 AM
Why? Because Photosynthesis takes place during the day.


OK, so is this relavent some how?

Or are you suggesting that there is no moisture in the soil at night? That can't be it, I must be missing something. Help me out here.

You water plants in soil roughly every 4 to 10 days. The moisture stays in the soil this whole time. Even longer sometimes, especially outdoors. That is unless everything I've ever thought I knew about dirt and moisture is wrong.

People, don't worry. I promise: If you water your plants at night, the dirt will be moist when the lights come on.

Opie Yutts
07-06-2006, 07:18 AM
scary some people who supposidly are in the business of plants don't know this.

Scary how some people ridicule others, before considering there's the slightest possibilitly they might be wrong themselves. Must be nice to be God.

And what business? It's barely a hobby.

seattle420
07-06-2006, 07:19 AM
isn't it hard to see what you are doing in the darkness?

water your plants when they need it.

if they don't need it, they are probably dead.

don't water too much,

but you gotta get the water flowing through your plants.
remember,
roots grow in the spaces between the soil particles

so you need good drainage!

and they don't like their feet too wet
so let em dry out a bit every few days

Opie Yutts
07-06-2006, 07:40 AM
isn't it hard to see what you are doing in the darkness?

Not really, I have cat-like reflexes and vision. Actually, my grow room is a closet, and plenty of light from the room gets in when the closet door is open. But then again it's irrelivant since I do hydro, except for my mothers. Well wait, I guess it is relivant, since I guess some other peoples situations are similar to mine. Anyway, that's not my point. Night, day, dark, light, dawn, occassionally the early-mid late morning, but never at dusk. Never. That's just sick. You water the plant if it needs it. It pulls it up through the roots and into the rest of the plant. Depending on how much, perlite, vermiculite, and other stuff you have in your soil, that water should be staying in there a few days. That is if you are even a mediocre soil mixer-upper. Enough time for several mornings to pass, so why the hell does it matter? Photosynthesis or none. Identical conditions, except for water schedule, and do you think yield will be affecteded if neither control subject is moisture stressed? If so how much? 0.000001% perhaps?

water your plants when they need it.

What he/she said.

so you need good drainage!

Ditto, and water retention too!

seattle420
07-06-2006, 08:00 AM
what?

you let in light...DURING THE DARK CYCLE?

are your plants budding?

why would the light be "irrelivant"

don't you understand the difference between NITE AND DAY?

I'm sure your plants know the difference!

cat like reflexes?

yes I think it will affect your yeild.

you gotta learn more.

have you ever budded you plant to like 4 ounces?

if your letting in light on the dark cycle you surely will not get the big buds.

Opie Yutts
07-06-2006, 09:49 AM
what?

you let in light...DURING THE DARK CYCLE?

are your plants budding?

Of course, what's the problem? Budding or not. Ever hear of a full moon?

why would the light be "irrelivant"

Light is relivant. Watering times are not, as long as a plant gets the correct amount of moisture throughout it's life.


don't you understand the difference between NITE AND DAY?

I'm sure your plants know the difference!

Yes, they appear much healthier at night for some reason. I wonder if this has something to do with plants storing energy in the day and building with it at night. And I eat just as often when it's dark as when it's light, if you average a year (as long as we're comparing me to a plant). I happen to know for a fact that plants suck up water at night too if they are thirsty. You can actually see it sometimes if you look close.

cat like reflexes?
Naturally. (My cat is really old)

yes I think it will affect your yeild.
I'll try to keep an open mind about this, I suppose it may be possible. I still don't see how, but perhaps you could explain it to me.

you gotta learn more.
Who doesn't? I guess that's why I asked you to explain it to me.

have you ever budded you plant to like 4 ounces?

No, but I've never budded a plant to 8 ounces either, and I could easily do that if I so desired. Never saw the need to.

if your letting in light on the dark cycle you surely will not get the big buds.
Show me. Prove it. I want to learn. But then also explain starlight. What about full moons? Maybe you've never seen a full moon when you are not in the city, but around these here parts, it almost looks like day time. I really don't think bud size will be affected if you have some light on your plants at night for 4 minutes, once per week, or however much time you spend watering.

Not that I think watering at night is better, I just don't think it matters much, if any.

builderdan
07-06-2006, 11:06 AM
I have read that plants are actually their most efficient at processing/growing/doing the things plants do at night. The problem for plants of course is that at night there is only a limited supply of resources (basically what their roots hold/store) due to no photosyn-howeveryouspellit-thesis. So I'd probably suggest that lots of oxygen and carry on watering them. Also the story with the full moon is that the full moon is reflected sunlight and its lumin count and probably it's entire spectrum makeup is very different to standard daylight. You never get a suntan of anykind under a full moon (even if you could get one for enough time which isn't really feasible). So my inexperienced view on watering is that plants need a degree of water available all the time for their roots, as much oxygen as possible and I suspect that they are rather responsive to changes in their enviroment - if maturity of the plant and it's life-cycle is determined by photoperiod rather than by age then it may be rather important to ensure a well maintained dark period. Plus wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution and water at a different time - if that's all it takes for you to produce nicer buds then why not?

Opie Yutts
07-07-2006, 01:22 AM
Plus wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution and water at a different time - if that's all it takes for you to produce nicer buds then why not?

Yes. In fact I do water my mothers when the lights are on. It's a little easier to see that way. I jut don't think it matters. When I come home at night, and I want to make sure the plants in my flower section are doing ok (No hoses sprung a leak or anything), I still will not hesitate to open the door for a couple of minutes. Overall, I think I am erroring on the side of caution in a way that makes much more sense.

Opie Yutts
07-07-2006, 01:31 AM
Oh, I guess I can think of one way a couple minutes of light might matter.

Let's say the maximum light time your weed will take and still flower is 13 1/2 hours. Your timer is set up for 13 hours and 28 minutes of light. If you open the door EVERY day for 2 minutes during dark, I could see this might be a problem. Otherwise, most people set the timer for 12 hours of light, when the plant can actually handle a lot more and still bud. It varies per variety. I am growing AK-47 and have my lights on for 12 1/2 hours. I think I remember reading that they will bud nicely with 13 hours of light, so why the hell does it matter if I occasionally give them 12 hours and 32 minutes of light?

And again, why the hell does it matter if the plants suck moisture up into the plant matter at night, and it is there waiting when the light comes on, or if the light comes on, then the plant has to wait around a little for some water? Actually that might be a good reason against watering in the morning, unless you are always able to do it the instant the lights come on. I assume the whole idea of this debat is that it's best to water the instant the lights come on. Who does that?

iwantFUEGO
07-07-2006, 01:43 AM
I've watered right before the lights go off...
I've also watered right after they come on...
Makes no diff

seattle420
07-07-2006, 01:45 AM
it ain't worth debating,

that dude is living in the 70's when weed had so many seeds
people would casually plant em
and they grew leaf and wood

if you want the killer buds you gotta have your plants in a light tight room

not in your open closet
(I can see his room, a big pile of clothes on the bed that used to be in the closet)

Opie Yutts
07-07-2006, 08:40 AM
if you want the killer buds you gotta have your plants in a light tight room

not in your open closet
(I can see his room, a big pile of clothes on the bed that used to be in the closet)

If you are talking about me, I own a 2600 sq. ft. house, in addition to my smaller rental property and my clothes are not on the bed, they are on the floor. Not because I don't have closet space, but because I like throwing them on the floor. I have been growing weed off and on for the last 25 years, and have done it nearly every way possible. The last 4 years I have been growing full time hydro, and the last 2 years I have been using the sea of green method. I have probably grown more killer buds than you have ever dreamt about. The flowering section of my walk-in closet is completely light proof, and I still do not hesitate to open the door occasionally at night, and I still water my mothers at any time of the day, and I would not hesitate to water my flowering plants again at any time of the day if I were growing in dirt, and I will still out-bud you with one face tied behind my head.

I'm still waiting for someone to offer real proof as to why I should water the instant the light comes on.

Peace.

seattle420
07-07-2006, 10:28 PM
duh, why do you have to "water" plants that are grown in water?

if your running completely hydro, it should be automatic.

Pothead4204life
07-08-2006, 01:39 AM
I would not hesitate to water my flowering plants again at any time of the day if I were growing in dirt,

..i almost missed it too....

Opie Yutts
07-08-2006, 03:34 AM
What he said.

Garden Knowm
07-08-2006, 03:36 PM
Hi Seattle...

When you do water.. you should water thoroughly..saturate your soil.. I recommend no less than 1/2 gallon of water per 3 gallon container.

It is also nice to use paper or plastic growing containers.. Then you can just lift the container.. and if it is very LIGHT.. then you KNOW it is time to water..

WORD to your MOTHER.. : )

seattle420
07-08-2006, 05:47 PM
oh yeah, you need the water. fortunately we have excellent water here