HEAVEN AN EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY BUT MY WORD SHALL STAND FOREVER

[xsw2]

THE WORD BECAME FLESH ,THANK YOU JESUS

[beachguy in thongs]

The Sons of cursed. . . all them that had Heaven wished to break their covenanted with Satan; for covenants and join with the they kept not the daughters of men Moses 5:52.

A Pit -- but Heaven over it -- a book, I think.

doctrines of the end of the world, judgement, Heaven, death and afterlife.

So heaven will light your Christmas and the coming New Year's Day.

"Of course it depends on Heaven's will." - Hanshan

[hahaitsdoogle]

For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains

[mrdevious]

THE WORD BECAME FLESH ,THANK YOU JESUS

SIDHARTHA BECAME THE BUDDHA, THANK YOU ENLIGHTENED ONE






That was fun! :)

[braddog10]

Beach, hahaitsdoogle,

Great to see both of you,.... Hey "D"!!
Of coarse ya'll know my view.

Man, What you guys come up with...........well,......... is a large part of my interest here. Your quotes? I guess it's most likely the translations used here, that throws me. The only passage that I can think of that comes close to yours beach is Genesis ch 6

...... that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.
4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.


Ok,.... The time before Noah is, what we refer to - as a different dispensation.
During this time demons were very active on the earth and "hook'n up" with the "chicks" so to speak. The offspring, that came out of the "hook up". were called "the nephilim".

They were not much unlike their fathers. It is also believed that they were giants. This contamination of the seed of humanity is believed to be a major reason for the flood.
The people groups that God required the Israelites to annihilate, were saturated in demonic worship, of which their entire cultures were based. Tho this period is ~ post flood ~ ,Nephilim were also mentioned to occupy the land (reference to giants), (Book of Numbers or Joshua, don't remember). Many of you may remember the movie "Rosemary's baby"..... It was based on the same principal. This blows my mind, The link below indicates that the producer, consulted Anton LaVey, founder of the Satanic church, concerning satanic rituals etc... Interestingly,........there had never been so many plagues and problems, producing a movie, prior to the Exorcist,...... A hint.....maybe? The Word says that "God speaks in a still small voice", but some things scream foul.

http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/097360683172.html?id=LFMJYC5u

I won't go into some of the practices of the people, it's really quite sick, especially what they did to their young. A Hugh perversion, of protecting, what should be considered, the vulnerable and innocent. A society so saturated with evil, that God even wanted the cattle and live stock killed - In some situations. He wanted no sign.

Now, Lets take up the offering! Send your checks to: Brother Brad, yes that's right, Brother Brad at..........

[willystylle]

THE WORD BECAME FLESH ,THANK YOU JESUS

Ah, xsw2, its so nice to hear from you again. And you haven't changed a bit I see.

[beachguy in thongs]

The only passage that I can think of that comes close to yours beach is Genesis ch 6


Okay, Sherlock. I used these articles to make my reply.
Curse of Cain/LDS historical statements http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Curse+of+Cain%2fLDS+historical+statements
List of Emily Dickinson poems http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/List+of+Emily+Dickinson+poems
The Last Battle http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/The+Last+Battle
Come Buy My Nice Fresh Ivy http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Come+Buy+My+Nice+Fresh+Ivy
Hanshan http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Hanshan

[beachguy in thongs]

Genesis ch 6


...... that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.
4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.


Ok,.... The time before Noah is, what we refer to - as a different dispensation.
During this time demons were very active on the earth and "hook'n up" with the "chicks" so to speak. The offspring, that came out of the "hook up". were called "the nephilim".

They were not much unlike their fathers. It is also believed that they were giants. This contamination of the seed of humanity is believed to be a major reason for the flood.
The people groups that God required the Israelites to annihilate, were saturated in demonic worship, of which their entire cultures were based. Tho this period is ~ post flood ~ ,Nephilim were also mentioned to occupy the land (reference to giants), (Book of Numbers or Joshua, don't remember). Many of you may remember the movie "Rosemary's baby"..... It was based on the same principal. This blows my mind, The link below indicates that the producer, consulted Anton LaVey, founder of the Satanic church, concerning satanic rituals etc... Interestingly,........there had never been so many plagues and problems, producing a movie, prior to the Exorcist,...... A hint.....maybe? The Word says that "God speaks in a still small voice", but some things scream foul.

http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/097360683172.html?id=LFMJYC5u

I won't go into some of the practices of the people, it's really quite sick, especially what they did to their young. A Hugh perversion, of protecting, what should be considered, the vulnerable and innocent. A society so saturated with evil, that God even wanted the cattle and live stock killed - In some situations. He wanted no sign.

Now, Lets take up the offering! Send your checks to: Brother Brad, yes that's right, Brother Brad at..........

The story of Noah reminds me of the Dinosaurs. Of course, the Earth has experienced a great flood. The last time the ice caps melted.

600 years ago, after the Medieval Warm Period, we went through a Little Ice Age for five-hundred years. http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Little+Ice+Age

There have been at least four major ice ages in the Earth's past.

The earliest hypothesized ice age is believed to have occurred around 2.7 to 2.3 billion (109) years ago during the early Proterozoic Age.

The earliest well-documented ice age, and probably the most severe of the last 1 billion years, occurred from 800 to 600 million years ago (the Cryogenian period) and it has been suggested that it produced a Snowball Earth in which permanent sea ice extended to or very near the equator.

A minor ice age occurred from 460 to 430 million years ago, during the Late Ordovician Period.

There were extensive polar ice caps at intervals from 350 to 260 million years ago.

The present ice age began 40 million years ago with the growth of an ice sheet in Antarctica, but intensified during the Pleistocene (starting around 3 million years ago) with the spread of ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere. Since then, the world has seen cycles of glaciation with ice sheets advancing and retreating on 40,000 and 100,000 year time scales. The last glacial period ended about 10,000 years ago.

[graymatter]

Hmmm.... the passing of heaven and earth, where have I heard that before?

[braddog10]

Okay, Sherlock. I used these articles to make my reply.
Curse of Cain/LDS historical statements http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Curse+of+Cain%2fLDS+historical+statements
List of Emily Dickinson poems http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/List+of+Emily+Dickinson+poems
The Last Battle http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/The+Last+Battle
Come Buy My Nice Fresh Ivy http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Come+Buy+My+Nice+Fresh+Ivy
Hanshan http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/Hanshan


Jolly good work Beach!..... Jolly Good!

The curse of Cain, material, is from the Mormons, Brigham Young, etc.. Had some strange, and what I consider to be, bizarre biblical interpretation, of coarse as I see it, well actually, any Christian scholar that I've heard....... I certainly am not.

Views of things, can vary from the bizarre to the other end of.........um lets see, bizarre. I noticed especially when I was searching dream interpretation.

Could only look at that one beach. Have a great day, I've got to finish up this week. taking next off, baby

[willystylle]

Braddog10, I'm getting a little suspicious of you. Everytime xsw2 makes a post, you see to jump right into the groove of things. Now maybe all these years of pot smoking has made me paranoid, but I'm beginning to think that you and xsw2 are the same person.

[graymatter]

Braddog10, I'm getting a little suspicious of you. Everytime xsw2 makes a post, you see to jump right into the groove of things. Now maybe all these years of pot smoking has made me paranoid, but I'm beginning to think that you and xsw2 are the same person.

Ah, yes, the old "straight guy" act. Interesting observation.

Hmmmm... And the word became, well, not flesh, but perhaps a different word?

[beachguy in thongs]

Who cares?

Band of Gypsys sang "Who knows?"

[poorprincess]

Beach, hahaitsdoogle,

Great to see both of you,.... Hey "D"!!
Of coarse ya'll know my view.

Man, What you guys come up with...........well,......... is a large part of my interest here. Your quotes? I guess it's most likely the translations used here, that throws me. The only passage that I can think of that comes close to yours beach is Genesis ch 6

...... that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.
4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.


Ok,.... The time before Noah is, what we refer to - as a different dispensation.
During this time demons were very active on the earth and "hook'n up" with the "chicks" so to speak. The offspring, that came out of the "hook up". were called "the nephilim".

They were not much unlike their fathers. It is also believed that they were giants. This contamination of the seed of humanity is believed to be a major reason for the flood.
The people groups that God required the Israelites to annihilate, were saturated in demonic worship, of which their entire cultures were based. Tho this period is ~ post flood ~ ,Nephilim were also mentioned to occupy the land (reference to giants), (Book of Numbers or Joshua, don't remember). Many of you may remember the movie "Rosemary's baby"..... It was based on the same principal. This blows my mind, The link below indicates that the producer, consulted Anton LaVey, founder of the Satanic church, concerning satanic rituals etc... Interestingly,........there had never been so many plagues and problems, producing a movie, prior to the Exorcist,...... A hint.....maybe? The Word says that "God speaks in a still small voice", but some things scream foul.

http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/097360683172.html?id=LFMJYC5u

I won't go into some of the practices of the people, it's really quite sick, especially what they did to their young. A Hugh perversion, of protecting, what should be considered, the vulnerable and innocent. A society so saturated with evil, that God even wanted the cattle and live stock killed - In some situations. He wanted no sign.

Now, Lets take up the offering! Send your checks to: Brother Brad, yes that's right, Brother Brad at..........

I was under the impression that the "Nephilim" were the children of angels. In a documentary about Angels I recently saw on the History channel they mentioned that one such son of an Angel lived to be something like 360 something, and he was a good man. God told the Angels he was going to flood the earth because of their rampant sex with human women resulting in the "Nephilim" children. The angels asked that one Nephilim who was 360 something to plead their case to God. Apparently The Nephilim went to heaven but lost his argument on the angels behalf. Thus the flood.

[braddog10]

I was under the impression that the "Nephilim" were the children of angels. In a documentary about Angels I recently saw on the History channel they mentioned that one such son of an Angel lived to be something like 360 something, and he was a good man. God told the Angels he was going to flood the earth because of their rampant sex with human women resulting in the "Nephilim" children. The angels asked that one Nephilim who was 360 something to plead their case to God. Apparently The Nephilim went to heaven but lost his argument on the angels behalf. Thus the flood.

That is an interesting view poorprincess. I am very pleased to meet with you on the boards. I also read your posts and hope that this find you and your boyfriend, well.

I love the history channel, but I am rather disappointed when they address Biblical issues. They handle so many things beautifully. I don't understand why they skew what is clearly being said, in what I consider to be Gods word. The Bible is consistent with a neg. view of these creatures, and even movies have depicted the same. I should clarify that demonic activity is still very prevalent, tho that point was not very clear in my last post. I have alot of reasons why I stick with the Biblical expression as it relates to specific issues.

I have experienced in real life, aspects of the spiritual world, that are conveyed in it. For example, I have worked with the demon possessed, and also found myself harassed by them during those times. The material that I was reading, to prepare, I guess, sensitized my awareness of them, also the "things" in the individual, would come out to give me a hard time, primarily due to my involvement.

I experienced, demonic visitations in my room. One time, I was asleep, but, somehow I was wide awake, and could not move my body. It was like I saw two of the sorry bastards came along the side of my bed, and inject my arm with something. It's hard to describe, it's like I saw them with my eyes closed. I know physically that this didn't happen, but, they screw with the mind. Putting faith in the delusion gives them entitlements, putting faith in their intimidation's of access, somehow opens the door. No sense in going into this much more.

The point is, I have had countless experiences of this nature. I am not an expert at most of what I discuss, however, It changes nothing, as it relates to what I have witnessed and experienced.

Of coarse this is a spiritual forum, and I do not at all want to project that I ether have a definitive view, or that I don't welcome the oposite. Just as everyone here, is contributing their views, as we all see it.

I would caution anyone considering astral projection, to not entertain it. Just like we all are at risk of infecting our computers with viruses, browsing the internet, a human, is at risk of the same, in a spiritual way, that can crash the hard drive. You are all of much more value, than any Intel processor, and hard disc drive.

Please be very cautious, I have seen enough to avoid it. These
things" hate God and us, created in His image. Also, imagine something as disgusting as these, killing the children of "the Father". Mafia tactics are mild, compared to their relentless hate. There is a point in Exorcism, when the enemy, is absolutely trashed from the angelic torment. They begin to cooperate with the questions concerning their access to the individual. One gained access thru a grand parent. Their patience floors me. To skip a generation to hit on a grandson. Just blows me away.

Exodus 34:7
who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."

It's just the way it is. Not a pretty site, but, the way is.

We don't know what our grandfathers did. Much less what our fathers did. This very thing keeps me out of many arenas, simply for the fear that some "thing" would have access to my kids, and their kids. Who knows how far.? I would as their father, have opened an access, to their great harm.
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Kind of drifted around, I hope this helps you understand a Christian view.
Again, great to see you,

[braddog10]

Exodus 20 goes on to say:.......to the Third and forth generations,
to those who hate me.

Also, To answer your inquiry, willystylle. I have also been critical of xsw2. If he wants to come in our yard to play. I would appreciate it, if he would join us instead of playing in the corner of the yard by himself.

Actually, I enjoy the topics, It get you guys all stirred up,............ and that's more fun!.......Hay, that's me.
It's cheesy to start a thread and not involve........ Come On!!

Anyway, the mods have his IP address,.......... ask them!!

[beachguy in thongs]

Brad, are you ordained?

[Garden Knowm]

there is only NOW

LOVE is NOW

[braddog10]

Brad, are you ordained?

No. I have enjoyed some happen'n places tho. I worked at a Christian radio station, in the late 80's. KVTT in Dallas. I have several friends that are.

Pat Rutherford is a dear friend. He moved to Asheboro NC about 8 mo's ago, From Arl. Tx.

You can get streaming music from his site. It may be a bit on the easy side for some, but I Love Kelly Willard.(an artist he plays). Yeah, he has a link for donations, but I'll tell ya ~ he lives on a shoestring.
http://www.pbnradio.com/index.html

Tom Dooley is also, He has a great program. really, well both do. You can also listen to Tom online. My wife and I went to Israel back - last November with he, his wife, and a group. We were leaving our hotel, the same night of the Jordanian hotel bombing. you may remember, some idiot and his wife had bombs strapped on, his wife's didn't explode, but, his did. Thirty min. before the Jordanian explosions occurred, there were explosions and machine gun fire about a half mile from where we were staying, at the main tourist hotel. We could see the flashes and heard the machine gun fire. Jordan, across from the Jordan river is not that far. The soldiers at the hotel said that some one was trying to steal a car......yeah, Riiiiiight.. Fascinating, fascinating trip. We had a tremendous guide.

I don't know how many stations Tom is syndicated on. 200?
http://www.mastermedia.org/
Tom is a brilliant man, He has a read a book a day, for I don't know many years now. He has stacks of books in his office. I quietly sat in on an interview with Tom and Kerry Livgren, of the music group Kansas, after they had split for a while. He formed a christian rock band called AD. That was fun.

Tom was a huge pothead and druggie, as he refers to himself, while he was a DJ on the top rock station in L.A. back in the day. He said they occasionally had to hold up a sign of the station call letters, because he would forget (laughing). I love Tom.

Pat's is particularly good at night. You may be very surprised.
If we want some wealth ~ we must make investments.

I take your question as a complement Beach, thank you.

[willystylle]

Brad, are you ordained?

Ordained by who? God does not hand out certificates and diplomas when he gives someone a spiritual gift. You don't need to spend thousands of dollars worth of bible college fees to become a warrior of Christ.

I'm not a christian, but at least I know that much.

[braddog10]

Ordained by who? God does not hand out certificates and diplomas when he gives someone a spiritual gift. You don't need to spend thousands of dollars worth of bible college fees to become a warrior of Christ.

I'm not a christian, but at least I know that much.


You can't operate like this and lead a happy health life, willystylle. When I was miserable, I made everyone around me miserable. This harms your relationship with your friends, ...........and family.

I prayed for you last night. You may not believe,... but that changes nothing. You may not believe the Bible, But that is also irrelevant......

Hebrews 4:12

12 For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Love also doesn't fail, the recipient can't stop it. Fortunate for me, for I was able to recover the damage to my wife, from the years of my own selfishness.

[braddog10]

That was a sweet point, willy style.

I failed to get that up there. You'll be Ok. It is wise to question and interact as you are. Proverbs, phrases that in a number of ways. Sure we've had scrapes, like I said elsewhere, we both walked away a little bloody. I'll tell you,.......... you are no idiot.

You like sparing with individuals, to sort things out, this forum is perfect. When you settle more into your own world view, you will be a powerful man!!

We must be very careful,.......Ok?....... if we claim to be wise, we become fools. That's one reason that I use examples of my own stupidity, any issue is just common to all us.

Good to see you, Willystylle

[beachguy in thongs]

Ordained by who? God does not hand out certificates and diplomas when he gives someone a spiritual gift. You don't need to spend thousands of dollars worth of bible college fees to become a warrior of Christ.

I'm not a christian, but at least I know that much.

The Eastern Orthodox Church has two minor orders, those of reader and subdeacon. Candidates for ordination receive the clerical tonsure prior to being ordained by the laying on of hands to these minor orders.

For Roman Catholics, it is typically in the last year of seminary training that a man will be ordained to the diaconate, called by Roman Catholics in recent times the "transitional diaconate" to distinguish men bound for priesthood from those who have entered the "permanent diaconate" and do not intend to seek further ordination. Deacons, whether transitional or permanent, are licensed to preach sermons, to perform baptisms, and to witness marriages, but to perform no other sacraments. After six months or more as a transitional deacon a man will be ordained to the priesthood. Priests are able to preach, perform baptisms, witness marriages, hear confessions and give absolutions, anoint the sick, and celebrate the Eucharist or the Mass.

For Anglicans, a person is ordained a deacon once they have completed their training at a theological college. In most branches of the Anglican church, women can be ordained as priests, and in some, can be ordained a bishop. Anglican priests have to be at least 30 before they can be chosen to become a bishop.

A controversy in the Catholic church over the question of whether Anglican holy orders are valid was settled by Pope Leo XIII in 1896, who wrote that Anglican orders lack validity because the rite by which priests are ordained is not correctly performed.

The Methodist model is loosely based upon the Anglican model. In this scheme, an elder is ordained to word (preaching and teaching), sacrament (administering baptism and the Lord's Supper), and order (ordaining others), and a deacon is someone who is ordained to word and service.

Presbyterians also ordain (by laying on of hands) ministers of Word and Sacrament (sometimes known as 'teaching elders'). These ministers are regared simply as Presbyters ordained to a different function, but in practice provide the leadership for local Kirk Session.

Congregationalist churches implement different schemes, but the officers usually have less authority than in the presbyterian or episcopalian forms. Some ordain only ministers and rotate members on an advisory board (sometimes called a board of elders or a board of deacons). Because the positions are by comparison less powerful, there is usually less rigor or fanfare in how officers are ordained.

[braddog10]

The Eastern Orthodox Church has two minor orders, those of reader and subdeacon. Candidates for ordination receive the clerical tonsure prior to being ordained by the laying on of hands to these minor orders.

For Roman Catholics, it is typically in the last year of seminary training that a man will be ordained to the diaconate, called by Roman Catholics in recent times the "transitional diaconate" to distinguish men bound for priesthood from those who have entered the "permanent diaconate" and do not intend to seek further ordination. Deacons, whether transitional or permanent, are licensed to preach sermons, to perform baptisms, and to witness marriages, but to perform no other sacraments. After six months or more as a transitional deacon a man will be ordained to the priesthood. Priests are able to preach, perform baptisms, witness marriages, hear confessions and give absolutions, anoint the sick, and celebrate the Eucharist or the Mass.

For Anglicans, a person is ordained a deacon once they have completed their training at a theological college. In most branches of the Anglican church, women can be ordained as priests, and in some, can be ordained a bishop. Anglican priests have to be at least 30 before they can be chosen to become a bishop.

A controversy in the Catholic church over the question of whether Anglican holy orders are valid was settled by Pope Leo XIII in 1896, who wrote that Anglican orders lack validity because the rite by which priests are ordained is not correctly performed.

The Methodist model is loosely based upon the Anglican model. In this scheme, an elder is ordained to word (preaching and teaching), sacrament (administering baptism and the Lord's Supper), and order (ordaining others), and a deacon is someone who is ordained to word and service.

Presbyterians also ordain (by laying on of hands) ministers of Word and Sacrament (sometimes known as 'teaching elders'). These ministers are regared simply as Presbyters ordained to a different function, but in practice provide the leadership for local Kirk Session.

Congregationalist churches implement different schemes, but the officers usually have less authority than in the presbyterian or episcopalian forms. Some ordain only ministers and rotate members on an advisory board (sometimes called a board of elders or a board of deacons). Because the positions are by comparison less powerful, there is usually less rigor or fanfare in how officers are ordained.

That's right beach, That's right.
There really is a spiritual impartation. Man, I wish you would see a prophet impart, and watch the person turn around and prophesy under a touch from God,.........speaking such encouragement to friends that I know struggle with something that the speaker does not. It's so strengthens everyone, sometimes there is not a dry eye. I know also that the ordained, or touched individual doesn't know my friends hassle. The Lord always keeps the persons privacy.

Proverbs 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

This is something I have adored about Him, for a long time.

When I travel I love to find "Vineyard" churches. So many operate this way.

[beachguy in thongs]

When I met my ex-g/f, the first weekend that she came to the beach, after going to a bar and getting really drunk, an ordained minister (who we met at the bar he lives behind), from the backseat of my car, put his hands on our heads, said some kind of elongated prayer, then said, "(You're married.) I gotta go."

The weird thing is, is that, though we no longer have sex, we're still roommates.

I wonder what kind of bond he placed on us.

[PureEvil760]

there is only NOW

LOVE is NOW

NO! love is preaching bullshit! damn Garden Knowm wtf is wrong with you?

[braddog10]

When I met my ex-g/f, the first weekend that she came to the beach, after going to a bar and getting really drunk, an ordained minister (who we met at the bar he lives behind), from the backseat of my car, put his hands on our heads, said some kind of elongated prayer, then said, "(You're married.) I gotta go."

The weird thing is, is that, though we no longer have sex, we're still roommates.

I wonder what kind of bond he placed on us.

This guys an idiot, Beach.Back later.

[beachguy in thongs]

Well, it was a local bar, and, most people at the bar were from the neighborhood that it was in front of. He asked random people, his age or older, what his nickname was and why he was called "Rev". So, I believe him when he said that he was an ordained minister.

The reason why I put "You're Married" in parenthesis was because I can't remember what he said, just, the "I gotta go" part. Drunk-driving.

We should've broken up a long time ago, yet, we're still together. We fought daily and had sex daily for five years. After four and half, she stopped smoking (Pot) and then we stopped having sex, eventually.

I don't remember anything about it. But, she was a virgin until I met her, maybe he knew and wanted her to stay with me.

[braddog10]

Well, it was a local bar, and, most people at the bar were from the neighborhood that it was in front of. He asked random people, his age or older, what his nickname was and why he was called "Rev". So, I believe him when he said that he was an ordained minister.

The reason why I put "You're Married" in parenthesis was because I can't remember what he said, just, the "I gotta go" part. Drunk-driving.

We should've broken up a long time ago, yet, we're still together. We fought daily and had sex daily for five years. After four and half, she stopped smoking (Pot) and then we stopped having sex, eventually.

I don't remember anything about it. But, she was a virgin until I met her, maybe he knew and wanted her to stay with me.

I just have a few minuites before flight. It seems that you still have a question, or at least some kind of concern as it relates to God's view of you two.

This was intrusive, and I question his sense of entitlement to do this. My view, but I'm sure the view of many others with any sense. The spoken words that God would recognize here would primarily be any vows that the two of you would consent and agree to.

Some may speak a word based in His truth, but, if it is not received than it's influence, is diminished. A good example: Promises from God, are for the peace that we could enjoy before the time and season before the blessing materializes. The blessing is still there, but it's completion may not be realized.

An interesting look at spoken words, that has always facinated me, is in Numbers 30. Notice that it specifically relates to daughters, the son is not mentioned. He specically has the authority to free daughters from a rash vow.

Number 30

3"Also if a woman makes a vow to the LORD, and binds herself by an obligation in her father's house in her youth,

4and her father hears her vow and her obligation by which she has bound herself, and her father says nothing to her, then all her vows shall stand and every obligation by which she has bound herself shall stand.

5"But if her father should forbid her on the day he hears of it, none of her vows or her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand; and the LORD will forgive her because her father had forbidden her.

6"However, if she should marry while under her vows or the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself,

7and her husband hears of it and says nothing to her on the day he hears it, then her vows shall stand and her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand.

I hope this finds you well, beach. It seems that the two of you, already have an emotional separation, but, there is something that is refered to as "soul ties", that I don't understand. You may want to Google that, and see what comes up. My understanding is very limited on this topic. There are many others more qualified to explain much of this. I wonder, beach if you might concider if more of a geographic separation would also be better. If your life is stagnant there, It would be my opinion that the separation would help you move on with your life,.....instead of losing more years, if thats the case.

I have brought up alot of things that has someone or somethings all tweeked. It's Ok let things play out. It could get very interesting. Plus, the kid could get free.

Concerning tormenting questions, I experienced something that had put questions in my mind. In some way similar to yours, of coarse the details are different. I have had some medical issues which are fine now, but, there was a season before they were resolved that I wondered If something that I experienced from the dark ones, could have had something to do with it. This passage, comforted me. That Gods ability to protect is greater than the enemies ability to reach.

God, will watch our back doors and windows, but, what we open the front door to, is allowed in by ourselves. God told me some time ago, that "what I allow, is allowed, What I disallow is disallowed.

This describes the protection, a metophor.

The Armor of God

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might.
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day.

[braddog10]

Hey knowm,

..Love is the greatest.
It's cool

[beachguy in thongs]

I wonder, beach if you might concider if more of a geographic separation would also be better. If your life is stagnant there, It would be my opinion that the separation would help you move on with your life,.....instead of losing more years, if thats the case.


She'll move. It's too hard for her to leave Virginia Beach, plus, she's an Angel and won't leave until I meet someone to help me with the bills.

[beachguy in thongs]

She'll move. It's too hard for her to leave Virginia Beach, plus, she's an Angel and won't leave until I meet someone to help me with the bills.

It's hard, though. I've fallen in Love with having nothing in common with her. Instead of having everything go my way, I can concentrate on one thing.

[braddog10]

It's hard, though. I've fallen in Love with having nothing in common with her. Instead of having everything go my way, I can concentrate on one thing.

Sounds like a foundation for a solid relationship. If there's chemistry, then you'll know it, the opposite will be equally obvious. A wise man said, "If our choices in life don't require growth from us. Then God isn't in it". Love is a different animal. Of coarse the desire for things to work is required.

Love is a decision, it's a choice. The only time for real love to occur, is when the feelings aren't quite the same. If you want this relationship to work,.......... start on the road of commitment with this girl.

My own heart was smitten, when I observed this in my wife. Her obvious desire for things to work. It put something in me that was large. Everything radically changed. Everything. My affections, our relationship, on and on etc etc....

I was reflecting on this a little bit, and I remembered, that things got started when we started praying together. Just a minute or two every day. We thank him for the gift of life, for His presence, we express our gratitude, ask for His leading. He lets things play out sometimes. The pain gets to be abit much,............Reality gets abit more clear.

How did I get off on this. well, we were also broke until that time. He rebukes the devourer by our gifts to others. Requires a little humility.
The cost otherwise, ............I can not afford!

James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.

[beachguy in thongs]

I'm not sure if I want this relationship to work. She's not what I always wanted. She doesn't open me up. It's exactly like when you feel funnier when you're around one person than another.

She was born the oldest in her extended family, and I was born the youngest, in a small family. My elders were my Brother and Sister, and, some of the time, when I opened my mouth, I'd get my way. She, on the other hand, opened her mouth to her parents and would get punished for it.

[Binzhoubum]

there is only NOW

LOVE is NOW


:thumbsup:

Agreed.

NOW....NOW....NOW.

:smokin:

[braddog10]

I'm not sure if I want this relationship to work. She's not what I always wanted. She doesn't open me up. It's exactly like when you feel funnier when you're around one person than another.

She was born the oldest in her extended family, and I was born the youngest, in a small family. My elders were my Brother and Sister, and, some of the time, when I opened my mouth, I'd get my way. She, on the other hand, opened her mouth to her parents and would get punished for it.


You frame things well. Beach. It seems that she is either going thru an introspective time, or needs some major inner healing, becomes much like a program that's constantly running in the background. It boots up on start up. How long has she been like this? She could be evaluating life, which should not go on for an extended time.

She is most likely depressed. An individual can't laugh, and others can't laugh with you. This is fairly easily remedied. Take her to Dr. help her walk out of it. You could be very surprised. It would be a good investment anyway. She would love you for It and would never forget it. It would be a very loving act.

[beachguy in thongs]

Holy Cow! I must've clicked some button, because I had replied to this.


She's on "vacation" in her hometown, for a week in a half, just south of Lynchburg, VA. Being around people that are close, to her, opens her up.

[braddog10]

Holy Cow! I must've clicked some button, because I had replied to this. ~She's on "vacation" in her hometown, for a week in a half, just south of Lynchburg, VA. Being around people that are close, to her, opens her up.

She's running on empty............I'm noticing that these boards are like a drug. One can be just sucked in. It doesn't mater what. A car hobby was my main drug, actually my mistress. If our mates don't have our affections? .......It just wears them out.


In my life it seems that balance has been rare. Balance to me has been much like a pendulum swing.There's a moment when the pendulum is centered at the bottom. unfortunately ~ it is rapidly on it's way to the other side.
Beach, it is very important that you and I both define the important things in our lives. I need to exorcise and spend time with my "baby girl", For one. I can't let anything stop that routine,......If a habit, compulsion, or a web forum, starts to eclipse anything important......your economics, .........your investment in this girl. If we could figuratively ~ see the cost, of our misdirected time. It would be staggering. I know for me It would encompass well into six figures in just economics alone.
It is staggering, In other areas?.........we can not afford it. Things we would never consider "for sale".

Beach, your writing gift, an absolute gift from god. It is a huge thing in you. You continue to invest there. It Is sure to become a tremendous treasure. Have you considered this? Start making investments here at a professional level. Don't know what your going to do with it? That's not your problem ~ it's "The Old Man's".

If the two of you had a spark ~ Find It ~ .
Invest in your girl. It is common to lose sight of the spark you had - research is rarely done, by our selves, to see why. I don't know your situation, but some People split and say "she's a bitch". and they don't know........ that she is ......of their design..any excuse will do, and a huge opportunity is lost..... Both lose.

The difference here, real quick. When a relationship is easy, that's great and that's cool.....alright? But, when the spark is very low. Liston to this When it's easy the return could be 10-12%, but when things look shot...... to turn and make investments there would yield - 30, 40%? Loose the bong awhile, get you ass a way from this screen, take a look at this chick that you said you loved, spend time, make investments encourage, love. ....man, You would have something you could not have with anyone else. The yield is totally different. It would be hard to have what the two of you could enjoy together,with another. It would require going thru another hard season with this other person. A crazy cycle, many are in.

Put down the Bong, Get your ass out from behind this screen. Just see what short term investment will yield. Talk to her about future stuff, plans,

[beachguy in thongs]

She's running on empty............I'm noticing that these boards are like a drug. One can be just sucked in. It doesn't mater what. A car hobby was my main drug, actually my mistress. If our mates don't have our affections? .......It just wears them out.


In my life it seems that balance has been rare. Balance to me has been much like a pendulum swing.There's a moment when the pendulum is centered at the bottom. unfortunately ~ it is rapidly on it's way to the other side.
Beach, it is very important that you and I both define the important things in our lives. I need to exorcise and spend time with my "baby girl", For one. I can't let anything stop that routine,......If a habit, compulsion, or a web forum, starts to eclipse anything important......your economics, .........your investment in this girl. If we could figuratively ~ see the cost, of our misdirected time. It would be staggering. I know for me It would encompass well into six figures in just economics alone.
It is staggering, In other areas?.........we can not afford it. Things we would never consider "for sale".

Beach, your writing gift, an absolute gift from god. It is a huge thing in you. You continue to invest there. It Is sure to become a tremendous treasure. Have you considered this? Start making investments here at a professional level. Don't know what your going to do with it? That's not your problem ~ it's "The Old Man's".

If the two of you had a spark ~ Find It ~ .
Invest in your girl. It is common to lose sight of the spark you had - research is rarely done, by our selves, to see why. I don't know your situation, but some People split and say "she's a bitch". and they don't know........ that she is ......of their design..any excuse will do, and a huge opportunity is lost..... Both lose.

The difference here, real quick. When a relationship is easy, that's great and that's cool.....alright? But, when the spark is very low. Liston to this When it's easy the return could be 10-12%, but when things look shot...... to turn and make investments there would yield - 30, 40%? Loose the bong awhile, get you ass a way from this screen, take a look at this chick that you said you loved, spend time, make investments encourage, love. ....man, You would have something you could not have with anyone else. The yield is totally different. It would be hard to have what the two of you could enjoy together,with another. It would require going thru another hard season with this other person. A crazy cycle, many are in.

Put down the Bong, Get your ass out from behind this screen. Just see what short term investment will yield. Talk to her about future stuff, plans,

Ok, that kind of offends me.

First of all, bongs deplete the active cannabinoids. Secondly, I smoke one hit at a time and it doesn't interfere, time-wise, with anything.

Third of all, (well, I'm not sure what to put next, but, here it goes) she's only someone who'll protect me from harm, not, someone who'll provoke me to do better.

Fourth of all, do you get what I mean?

Fifth of all, is your left East and your right West while you sit at the computer? (It's been bothering me for a while... :stoned: )

Sixth of all, do you like an apple better than a pear?

[braddog10]

Ok, that kind of offends me.

First of all, bongs deplete the active cannabinoids. Secondly, I smoke one hit at a time and it doesn't interfere, time-wise, with anything.

Third of all, (well, I'm not sure what to put next, but, here it goes) she's only someone who'll protect me from harm, not, someone who'll provoke me to do better.

Fourth of all, do you get what I mean?

Fifth of all, is your left East and your right West while you sit at the computer? (It's been bothering me for a while... :stoned: )

Sixth of all, do you like an apple better than a pear?


Youuuu Nut,......... Of coarse I forgot about your sig. WoW.......2) sure, been there done that......3)...Boy, I guess, I wasn't clear that the potential relationship, hinged on a contingency of chemistry. Dang..........Ok Ok lets see where are we...Oh 4)....Certainly to avoid any risk of paranoia ~ Right is dead nuts west
OOOOooh Wow, that was 5)... ..4?...yeah........yeah... I'm cool. 6?...ummmm........thats a toughy.

Don't sweat it beach,.........lets see what comes to mind here, ....yes....yes, This ones good....

Proverbs 27: 6 ~ Wounds from a friend can be trusted.

[beachguy in thongs]

But what about Psalm 83:3?

They devise crafty schemes against your people, laying plans against your precious ones.

[Binzhoubum]

But what about Psalm 83:3?

They devise crafty schemes against your people, laying plans against your precious ones.

But what about this Oscar Wilde quote? :confused:

"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live."

:smokin:

[beachguy in thongs]

But what about this Oscar Wilde quote? :confused:

"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live."

:smokin:

"Hey, Mom. Can I smoke pot?"
"Sure."
"Aw, man. I'm selfish."

[braddog10]

"Hey, Mom. Can I smoke pot?"
"Sure."
"Aw, man. I'm selfish."

I needed to get on briefly, to clear something up.
This thread would be enjoyable, but not a good idea. I have injured my self, and attempts to communicate here on pain pills has proved a bad Idea. Sorry, about an earlier post. don't want confusion on your part. I used an example of you and your girl friend to make a point. However, the shoes fit poorly. Hows that for judgement. Thanks beech, see ya in a few days.

[beachguy in thongs]

I needed to get on briefly, to clear something up.
This thread would be enjoyable, but not a good idea. I have injured my self, and attempts to communicate here on pain pills has proved a bad Idea. Sorry, about an earlier post. don't want confusion on your part. I used an example of you and your girl friend to make a point. However, the shoes fit poorly. Hows that for judgement. Thanks beech, see ya in a few days.
OOOOOOOokay. :smokin:

[xsw2]

im here , come let us reason together

[braddog10]

im here , come let us reason together

Good to to meet you xsw2. and you kept your name..........aaaah, at a boy. I'm sure you have been following your threads. I still don't understand why you didn't join, but whatever. Personally, I enjoyed them alot.

[xsw2]

i keep my name from the beast government of satan , which is out to destroy all of god creations including weed

[PureEvil760]

The anti-christ is that of which keeps us from seeing the truth. Do you see the masters surrounding you?