Does cloning during flowering make weak or hermie plants?

[grow4fun]

Hi all.
Does anyone know if clones taken from flowering plants (almost 3 weeks into 12/12) will produce inferior plants when theyâ??re grown out, with a lower yield, or is the only drawback the longer rooting time?
Has anyone done this and noticed a difference in yield?

[GaGrown]

Stress does weird things! If you take a cutting from a plant that is in full flower,it will stress the plant! Not to mention it will take alot longer for it to root!Should have kept a mama!Then no worries!

Ga Grown

[SeedlessOne]

i agree as i just found this out the hard way. i took some clippings from a lady of mine last week, and well today i found out she turned hermie due to the stress.

[Garden Knowm]

SEED... the plant you were flowering turned hermie? or the clones turned hermie?

DO you know for a fact that the plant you were clonig FROM was not hermie before you cloned from it?

this interests me greatly...

I have cloned many many many, (thousands) of flowering plants and never had a problem with hermies... (90% not past the 4th week)

cheers..

[Jdog7000]

I agree with knowm.
I've cloned hundreds of times.
I've cloned clones.
Over and over and over.
And no hermies.
You would have to have a super unstable strain to hermie this way.
This is the first I ever heard of this.

But I guess it's possible.
But even my OGer's Kush crosses that were made with selfed seeds didn't hermie from being cloned several times.

So I"m very interested to hear a little more detail about your experience Seedlessone.

[Jdog7000]

I guess what I'm wondering is...did your clones show hermie's in veg?
Or did you flower them to find out?

[Opie Yutts]

My understanding is a clone is a clone is a clone. It's not like a Xerox copy that gets worse each time. I have cloned clones of clones of clones of... well you get the picture. It is a little more stressful to clone during flower, but mainly because it takes so long to get roots. Stress does increase the likelyhood of hermies, but it's nothing to worry about. It's rare.

[grow4fun]

Knowm, youâ??ve done thousands with no hermies, but have you ever compared the yield of those to their sisters that were cloned in veg?
Is there anything else different about them Iâ??d want to know? Iâ??m trying to decide whether to grow these out for my next crop (theyâ??re rooted and look green), or buy some that I know are good from my friend.

[Garden Knowm]

Hmmm interesting GROW.. I have never thought of that...

You are wondering if the plants that are cloned during vegging have a different yield than the plants cloned during flowering...?

Actually, I have noticed what probably a lot of people have noticed.. when you have a clone that actually has female hairs on it, each of the calyx's tuns into a branch.. making for some very interesting grows.. there is actually no better way to grow a BUSHY plant... no amount of TOPPING can produce this kind of indiviual BRANCH growth (that a flowering clone turned to veg cycle can produce)

I have also noticed that plants started from seed (that are not topped) seem to give the biggest single COLAS... (side note)

Depending on HOW (training,pruning, nutrients, numebr of plants, etcetera) one chooses to grow and HOW one lights their garden are the primary elements regarding yield... I do not think that a clone from a vegging plant will have a different yield than a clone from a flowering plant...

the time it takes to produce/harvest equal amounts of GANJA will probably take a bit longer for the clone taken from the FLOWERING plant...

WOW.. that was a mouthful...

[Jdog7000]

IT is well known that seeds yield more then clones.
And the older a clone gets(takes 20-30 years) it will begin to loose vigor and yield.

Heres a pic of a revegged Blue Dot.
They grow crazy.:thumbsup:

[Opie Yutts]

Actually, I have noticed what probably a lot of people have noticed.. when you have a clone that actually has female hairs on it, each of the calyx's tuns into a branch.. making for some very interesting grows.. there is actually no better way to grow a BUSHY plant... no amount of TOPPING can produce this kind of indiviual BRANCH growth (that a flowering clone turned to veg cycle can produce)


I haven't noticed this but I guess that's because I've never cloned from flower. At least I think that's what you are saying to do. I think I may want to try this. I've never thought about it, but it might be good to make plants for screen grows. Do I understand you correctly? If I take cuttings from flowering plants my clones will have many main stalks instead of one or two?

[seattle420]

pretty hard to clone a plant that has been exposed to 12/ 12 for budding.

get em early
as soon as the fifth set of leaves appear.

[Opie Yutts]

pretty hard to clone a plant that has been exposed to 12/ 12 for budding.

get em early
as soon as the fifth set of leaves appear.

I know it's harder, but I think he's saying that if I do, my plants will have more main stems than normal. This could have advantages. Am I off base here?

[ShastaCoMan]

pretty hard to clone a plant that has been exposed to 12/ 12 for budding.

get em early
as soon as the fifth set of leaves appear.

in all the years ive been growing, ive yet to have any sort of problem with a plant or its yeild by trimming it, or taking a couple of cuttings. i routinely trim the "suckers" off of the lower 1/3rd of my plants during flowering with no ill effects on the plants, and always use them for cloning, especially if the plants been topped quite a bit before flowering as the suckers are usually node factories and spit out roots fairly quickly ( for a flowering plant, they usually take quite a bit longer to grow roots) from each node.

[Vancefish]

This is a very interesting thread! :thumbsup:

I'm new to the whole thing. However I had a light being held up by strings as a temporary measure. Well as should be expected with such a lousy set up. It broke and landed on a plant. One branch was nearly broken off the main stem. :mad: Natuarally I thought CLONE! :D Now it's in the cloner and showing roots. The plant it came off of recovered fine.

A few days later. I decide to do my last LST session on a plant in very early flower. While trying to bend a branch, I accidently kinked it. So I cut it off, and into the cloner! :D

So after a week, the veg plant clone has roots (although small). The cutting from the early flower shows nothing, not even bumps to become roots.

This thread also answers the likelyhood of that accident, causing my clones to hermi. So way cool. :thumbsup:

[bobm6104]

Stress does weird things! If you take a cutting from a plant that is in full flower,it will stress the plant! Not to mention it will take alot longer for it to root!Should have kept a mama!Then no worries!

Ga Grown

I just took numerous cuttings from a Kali Mist and Purple Kush 4 weeks (25 - 28 Dec) into flowering. Yes they take a long time to take root. I wound up with 2 Kali Mist and 2 Purple Kush that are finally starting to look like they will make it. Still have 3 more clones each from Mothers but doubt they will make it although they are still alive. Both mother plants were well stressed from moving from one house to another and different levels of light. Never got much good bud from them. This is the first time I have tried this so will be interesting how they turn out. I hope the PK will do well as this strain is one of the few you have to clone to keep em going.

[jtsik330]

This thread is sweet. I currently have 17 girls in a bubbler clone and I am waiting for results. Its only been 4 days now but but I have a few cuttings that are from a mother that was put into flower about two weeks ago and hoping for best results. What I noticed about the clones that were in flower is that they look as if they are still growing and the pistils on the few that came from the mother are pretty darn big. Looks cool can't wait to see how they compare with the others.