Do you transplant?

[Jerrodg]

If I am going with the Water Farms 8 pack, or the Ebb & Gro 12 or 18 site, do I grow the plants start to finish in the same bucket, or do I need to transplant them. Obviously I would start the seeds outside the bucket, assuming in rock wool or another similair medium. But past the germination and initial growth would I just plop them in and let em go? Also, if using the expanded clay pellets, would the rockwool cube just sit down inside of the pellets? Sorry if these questions are noobish, but I have 1 soil grow beneath my belt, and am switching to hydro at the wifes request.

[Garden Knowm]

Hi mr. od

no transplanting.. if i understand your question..

one medium for seed or clone..
then your transfer that medium(with your rooted plant) into your hydroponic medium/grow container.. it stays in that container until its dying day..

why does your wife want you to go hydro?
: )

[Jerrodg]

So since they are going into 2 or 3 gallon buckets, I would germinate them in fairly large pieces of my medium, correct? And if I was to use the clay pellets? Would I still germinate them in the medium and transfer that into the pellets?

My wife wants to go hydro because I made a bit of a mess at times with the soil, and she is fascinated by gadgets and technology. I love my wife.. :smokin:

[Garden Knowm]

HI JERRRRRRRR....

Many people that grow in hydroton clay pellets will start their clones/seeds in rockwool... 2x2x1 or 1.5 inch rockwool cubes.. and then transfer these cubes directly into the clay pellets...

It is advised to soak your cubes for 24 hours in 5.0 ph water before using them.. not necessary though

cheers

YOU should consider looking at the aeroponic set ups that ZANDOR has designed.. they are amazingly simpe.. and then you will have him online here at cc.com as your personal HELP HOTLINE.. LOL

[Jerrodg]

Again forgive me for the noob question, but with aeroponics, it seems like you wouldn't be able to grow large enough plants due to the small container. Of course, since I haven't found Zandors aeroponic setup, he may have solved that. Off to the search I go.

[bongerstonerd00d]

You could use 8" netpots and grow a damn big plant using aeroponics. I am glad I held off on buying what I was going to finally use. I do believe I finally sold myself, along with the video I bought from G-Kno's site on the Auquamist system. I am going to buy one, and build 2 more after I see what one looks like. Cant be all that much to it. Here is the link to their site if you would like to have a look at them.

http://www.aquamist.com/aquamist1.htm


b0nger

[Jerrodg]

That looks interesting, but I am trying to fill a 32 sq. ft. area. I think I am most interested in a pot system that can be expanded, or a different type that I can build and customize myself.

I still can't find Zandor's aeroponic build... :(

[bongerstonerd00d]

3 of those systems you looked at grew 7 pounds+ in a 36 sq ft area. G-Kno can attest to that.



b0nger

[Jerrodg]

I assume that is dried weight?

[bongerstonerd00d]

That is dried weight. Ask G-Kno



b0nger

[latewood]

Again forgive me for the noob question, but with aeroponics, it seems like you wouldn't be able to grow large enough plants due to the small container. Of course, since I haven't found Zandors aeroponic setup, he may have solved that. Off to the search I go.Actually, Zandor's aero system is made for cloning...then he uses the system I described with drip lines...(Sorry i mis-stated that earlier). He also put rooted clones in that drip system...more plants, less size, same yield concept.

IMO you odn't want to grow trees in aero units.

you would use DWC, or drip, as commercial growers do.

[Garden Knowm]

Actually, Zandor's aero system is made for cloning...then he uses the system I described with drip lines...(Sorry i mis-stated that earlier). He also put rooted clones in that drip system...more plants, less size, same yield concept.

IMO you odn't want to grow trees in aero units.

you would use DWC, or drip, as commercial growers do.

MY bad.. ZANDOR's system is drip..a dam,n good drip.. IT looks so aeroponic!!!!!!! LOL


As far as trees go in aeroponic systems I agree with latewood..

For two main reasons.. (which can be overcome.. and I have actually seen some great trees in aeropnic systems)

1. plants that start to produce more than 3 ounce.. lets say 10 ounces or even 2 lbs need a tremendous amount of support... and most aeropnic systems do not offer JACK SHIT for plant supprt... plants will fall over and even worse, fall into the reservoir..

2. When growing BIG plants, the roots have a tendency to grow into reservoirs... roots sitting in water,,, even running water, adds a whole list of potential problems.. ROOT ROT may be the only thing worse than mites... yikes..

: )
iloveyou

[Garden Knowm]

BONGER.. are you considering grwoing trees in the aquamist?

IF so you should consider modifying the net cups.. they can fall into the reservoir.. they are easy to modify....

and you should also consider adding airstones to the reservoirs.. this will dramaticaly increase root growth... it is so noticable that you will see a HUGE difference in the roots that land directly on top of the air stones verses the roots that are 5-10 inches away!!

: )

[bongerstonerd00d]

I wasnt thinking of growing trees, but I would like at least one oz per plant. That would give me one pound per system. With 2 1000 watt HPS lights I think I am being reasonable. How are the mods made to the cups ? And, will that be in seemorebud III ? I hope you changed the billing name.



b0nger

[latewood]

One ounce per plant is very managable. You won't need to modify for that size...system will support those. peace
thanks GK...

[bongerstonerd00d]

But if I did want to push it a bit over the 1oz per plant, how would I reinforce the netpots? I am just curious is all. I am looking at a grow once a year, and the rest of the year I am going to be growing vegatables.


b0nger