Scientific Analysis Proves Towers Brought Down By Incendiaries

[pisshead]

a couple of good videos too showing what thermite can do...and showing evidence of thermite on 9/11...

Scientific Analysis Proves Towers Brought Down By Incendiaries
(http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/200606scientificanalysis.htm)Steven Jones' analysis on WTC steel about to be released
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 20 2006 (http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Scientific analysis on WTC steel debris undertaken by BYU Professor Steven Jones proves that the twin towers were demolished by means of incendiary devices and the release of the conclusive evidence is imminent.

The material that was first brought into question on the back of photos and video clips of the twin towers showing a dripping molten substance and floating white ash can now be confirmed as being thermate, combining thermite which is used as an incendiary device to bring down structures and sulfur, which cuts through steel quicker and leaves a yellow residue.

Pools of molten yellow metal were also found underneath both towers and Building 7 subsequent to the collapses.

"The evidence points directly to controlled demolition which means an inside job brought these World Trade Center buildings down," Jones told radio host Alex Jones in a video interview.

Jones says that, "using advanced techniques we're finding out what's in these samples - we're finding iron, sulphur, potassium and manganese - these are characteristic of a variation of thermite which is used to cut through steel very rapidly, it's called thermate."

"In order to have thermite in these buildings in this way, to help bring the buildings down, that means that thermite had to be planted in the buildings which of course implies directly and inside job - someone had to have access into the buildings," said Jones.

Jones' has conducted over 40 peer reviewed scientific studies two of which were published in Nature and Scientific American.

Prison Planet.tv members can click here (http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2006/160606jones.htm) to watch a clip of Professor Jones explaining his findings. Subscribe by clicking here (http://www.prisonplanet.tv/subscribe.html).

This facet of the 9/11 truth movement was first brought to light during a November 2005 appearance (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/121105twintowers.htm) on The Alex Jones Show by Brigham Young University physicist Professor Steven Jones. Jones said that white phosphorous wasn't powerful enough to cause the implosion but that thermite was the likely culprit. Alex Jones's 2005 release Martial Law 9/11 Rise of the Police State (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/080605martiallaw.htm) highlighted the physical evidence that the towers and Building 7 were brought down with incendiary devices.

Jones stated that thermite was a "clever" choice because its ingredients, aluminum and iron oxide do not require identifying tags by law, meaning they couldn't be traced back to their manufacturers.

Watch the following video and observe how thermite completely melts a car engine in a matter of seconds, without the addition of sulphur, and also completely resists neutralization by liquid nitrogen. Notice how the dripping substance is identical to that seen in the south tower video.

The following video highlights the fact that steaming hot molten metal was still being found at the World Trade Center site six weeks after the attack.

Jones also, "cited video pictures showing white ash rising from the south tower near the dripping, liquefied metal. When thermite burns, Jones said, it releases aluminum-oxide ash. The presence of both yellow-white molten iron and aluminum oxide ash "are signature characteristics of a thermite reaction," he said."

American Free Press writer Christopher Bollyn discusses evidence (http://www.rense.com/general70/pphe.htm)of thermite used to sever the twin tower's steel support columns in the picture below.

"In this photo, for example, the column directly above the fireman's helmet shows that it was cut with thermite. There is a substantial amount of hardened molten iron which can be seen on both the inside and outside of the box column. This is precisely what one would expect to find on a column which had been cut with thermite," says Bollyn.

White flames consistent with how thermite reacts producing molten iron and aluminum oxide are also visible (http://www.rense.com/general70/whitehot.htm) in this photograph at the corner of the 81st floor of the south tower.

The USGS Spectroscopy Lab produced images which showed dense thermal hot spots days and weeks after the attacks. ABC News (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/abc_search09182001.html) reported that, "the temperature at the core of "the pile," is near 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to fire officials, who add that the fires are too deep for firefighters to get to."

The public release of Professor Jones' scientific analysis is imminent - watch this space for the story as soon as it breaks.

[Psycho4Bud]

LOL...what's up? A.J. low on tape sales?

Ya think that this may happen when a jet goes through a building at 500mph?
Myth Busted!
The thermite reaction can take place by accident in industrial locations where abrasive grinding and cutting wheels are used with ferrous metals. Using aluminium in this situation produces an admixture of oxides which is capable of violent explosive reaction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

[Breukelen advocaat]

Debunking the 9/11 Conspiracy theories

Exploding the myths:

http://us.geocities.com/debunking911/index.htm


LOADS of good information - just click on it.

My advice to the theorists, and their gullible disciples: Come to NYC, to the site of Ground Zero, and neighboring communities, and ask local people if they think that the U.S. government was behind 9/11. I'll lay you ten to one odds that you won't find nary a soul believes the nonsense that is coming from people far away from the scene - with heavy agendas, especially Steven Jones, a crackpot from Utah.

[iamapatient]

As already debunked by Popular Mechanics too...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

I guess, since they believe the lies, themselves, they think if they tell the lie enough time, others will believe it too. Just one of many retarded conspiracy theory threads courtesy of prisonplanet propaganda. So deluded... :rolleyes:

[Bong30]

i love you guys........i dont even have to type shit. you got it covered :)

[iamapatient]

This is exacly the kind of retardation that drives away potential rescheduling supporters because of their insane liberal partisan hackery. Idiots like these liberal conspiracy theory nutjobs, on sites like these, are partly why mmj is still illegal. :rolleyes:

On the upside, it's also idiots like these that have rendered the democrats impotent on national security issues, so they usually loose elections too. Thanks...

[WalkaWalka]

did you guys read the articles look at the photos watch the original tape of the towers going down from street level?

[iamapatient]

Did you read any of the links that debunk this idiotic conspiracy theory?

[Breukelen advocaat]

did you guys read the articles look at the photos watch the original tape of the towers going down from street level?


I was lower Manhattan, outside Trinity Church (Rector St. & B'way) on 9/11, when the first plane was sticking out of the structure. After the second plane hit, as I was going home on the subway, an architect told me that the towers would collapse, because they were built that way - which is exactly what happened a little while later.

I've seen the footage THOUSANDS of times, I can't watch any more, and most other people in NYC feel the same way.

Armchair theorists from afar are just not going to get much support for their agendas - but they get enough from suckers to pay the bills. I urge anybody that's serious about 9/11 research to come to NYC and talk to people that were there that day. I'm not the only one that was there, there were tens of thousands of people in the area (maybe more). You can read your theories, watch footage, and listen to people far away from the scene - or come here and see about it. I have not met ANYBODY in New York City, and I'm there every day, that thinks that bombs went off. Many of these people were IN the WTC, in buikdings next door to it, or outside on their way to work. I was 10 blocks or so away, so I can only go with what they tell me.

9/11 conspiracy debunking site
http://us.geocities.com/debunking911/index.htm

[Binzhoubum]

This is exacly the kind of retardation that drives away potential rescheduling supporters because of their insane liberal partisan hackery. Idiots like these liberal conspiracy theory nutjobs, on sites like these, are partly why mmj is still illegal. :rolleyes:

On the upside, it's also idiots like these that have rendered the democrats impotent on national security issues, so they usually loose elections too. Thanks...


That's a pretty BOLD statement, sir. I mean for the love of everything good and holy, you can't go stereotyping the majority of liberals because of what a few paranoid, disillusioned, crackpot conspiracy theorists say!

Saying things like:


Idiots like these liberal conspiracy theory nutjobs, on sites like these, are partly why mmj is still illegal. :rolleyes:

...is just downright illogical! You honestly want to sit here and tell everyone on this message board that "liberal conspiracy theory nutjobs" are part of the reason why MMJ is still illegal!

Here is an experiment...Why don't we poll all of the Democratic lawmakers and all the Republican lawmakers and see who is more in favor of MMJ?

I am guessing you won't like the results...:smokin:

Take a country where MMJ is legal or a country with decriminalization...all of the countries I know about where these things occur are swinging towards the LEFT...if you get my drift. :D

Peace!:smokin:

[Binzhoubum]

I would also like to point out that it is just as delusional and "crackpot-y" for you hardcore Rightwingers to sit there and spew rhetoric about "WMD's in Iraq" or "Fighting for Iraqi Freedom" as it is for people to spew crackpot theories about 9/11.

They all share one thing in common:

All based on LIES and CONJECTURE!!!!!

Peace! :smokin:

[beachguy in thongs]

LOL...what's up? A.J. low on tape sales?



Lol, funny Bud. Psycho4. Who's Psycho1, 2, and 3Bud?

[beachguy in thongs]

My theory is that the planes coincidided with the day that we were trying to capture Godzilla. The cameras weren't rolling yet, but, they came up with a brilliant scheme to capture him, by tying a string between the World Trade Towers. They coaxed him through it, and it worked! The only problem was that it swayed the towers and the planes couldn't avoid them.

[pisshead]

yes, i'm one of those small government small budget, pro constitution and bill of rights, pro 2nd amendment, anti abortion, pro freedom anti tyranny, pro family, anti UN "liberals" who has never ever voted for a democrat, always independent, real republicans (small government, pro constitution bill of rights, not big government commie republicans like george w. bush or hillary clinton) and libertarians.

when in reality liberal and conservative don't mean a damn thing. if i have to use the mindless newspeak terms, george w. bush is the biggest "liberal" i've ever seen. he makes clinton look conservative.

george w. bush is a big government socialist who signed on to the agreement last year to dissolve the border and bring us into a UN declaration of human rights dictatorship. but i'm supposed to ignore that, otherwise, i'm a liberal.

very conservative. george w. bush is a liberal.

[Binzhoubum]

yes, i'm one of those small government small budget, pro constitution and bill of rights, pro 2nd amendment, anti abortion, pro freedom anti tyranny, pro family, anti UN "liberals" who has never ever voted for a democrat, always independent, real republicans (small government, pro constitution bill of rights, not big government commie republicans like george w. bush or hillary clinton) and libertarians.

when in reality liberal and conservative don't mean a damn thing. if i have to use the mindless newspeak terms, george w. bush is the biggest "liberal" i've ever seen. he makes clinton look conservative.

george w. bush is a big government socialist who signed on to the agreement last year to dissolve the border and bring us into a UN declaration of human rights dictatorship. but i'm supposed to ignore that, otherwise, i'm a liberal.

very conservative. george w. bush is a liberal.

Just curious...and I mean absolutely no disrespect...but who do you consider a conservative?

Thanks!

Peace :smokin:

[pisshead]

Debunking the 9/11 Conspiracy theories

Exploding the myths:

http://us.geocities.com/debunking911/index.htm


LOADS of good information - just click on it.

My advice to the theorists, and their gullible disciples: Come to NYC, to the site of Ground Zero, and neighboring communities, and ask local people if they think that the U.S. government was behind 9/11. I'll lay you ten to one odds that you won't find nary a soul believes the nonsense that is coming from people far away from the scene - with heavy agendas, especially Steven Jones, a crackpot from Utah.

william rodriguez WAS THERE AT THE WTC ON 9/11 as well, he was in the shit, his story is on the record, he's told it many times, you probably don't care about it though:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/

he doesn't count, though, right?

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and â??Consciously Failedâ?� To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New Yorkâ??s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals
i hear callers from new york into radio stations all the time, on half a dozen radio shows that don't believe the 19 freedom hating hijacker story...

they don't count either...


TOM FRANKLIN, a photographer, was there on 9/11 too, he got word they were going to intentionally pull building 7 and was in place to photograph it...he doesn't believe the 19 freedom hating muslim conspiracy hypothesis either. his story is on the record.

i call it a hypothesis because it's not even good enough to call a theory, it explains nothing of the entire spectrum of 9/11 issues...the means motive and opportunity aspects...that's easy to ignore though, i don't blame you.

they're all crackpots unless they believe a 19 freedom hating muslim story...forgetting and ignoring everything else...

[Breukelen advocaat]

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and â??Consciously Failedâ?� To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New Yorkâ??s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals
i hear callers from new york into radio stations all the time, on half a dozen radio shows that don't believe the 19 freedom hating hijacker story...

they don't count either...
.

Here's some information about (among other things) the Zogby International telephone poll - which is very slanted. There is NO WAY that "Half" of New Yorkers believe that the government knew about the impending 9/11 attack. In any case, even if they did believe so, that does not mean that they think the government actually carried out the attacks and planted bombs in the buildings.

http://newsbusters.org/node/5681?from=90&comments_per_page=90
NYT Gives "Bush-Caused-9/11" Conspiracists a Respectful Hearing
Posted by Clay Waters on June 5, 2006 - 09:36.

A wacky group of conspiracy theorists who think 9/11 was an inside job on the part of the Bush administration met in Chicago over the weekend, and got a respectful hearing from Times Metro reporter Alan Feuer.

â??500 Conspiracy Buffs Meet To Seek the Truth of 9/11â?� made Page 1 of the Metro section, and that very headline gives the conspiracy-mongers the undeserved accolade of truth-seekers when theyâ??re actually just crawling for scraps of evidence â??provingâ?� that Bush, not radical Islamic terrorism, was responsible for 9/11.

Feuer explains: â??Such was the coming-out for the movement known as "9/11 Truth," a society of skeptics and scientists who believe the government was complicit in the terrorist attacks. In colleges and chat rooms on the Internet, this band of disbelievers has been trying for years to prove that 9/11 was an inside job.â?�

The text box puts this latest batch of conspiracists in the same box as other historical sceptics, to make them appear less wacky: â??Some participants see an American tradition of questioning concentrated power.â?�

Feuer writes: â??At the lectern Friday night, beside a digital projection reading â??History of Government Sponsored Terrorism,â?? Mr. Jones set forth the central tenets of 9/11 Truth: that the military command that monitors aircraft â??stood downâ?? on the day of the attacks; that President Bush addressed children in a Florida classroom instead of being whisked off to the White House; that the hijackers, despite what the authorities say, were trained at American military bases; and that the towers did not collapse because of burning fuel and weakened steel but because of a â??controlled demolitionâ?? caused by pre-set bombs.

â??According to the group's Web site, the motive for faking a terrorist attack was to allow the administration â??to instantly implement policies its members have long supported, but which were otherwise infeasible.â??

â??The controlled-demolition theory is the sine qua non of the 9/11 movement -- its basic claim and, in some sense, the one upon which all others rest. It is, of course, directly contradicted by the 10,000-page investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which held that jet-fuel fires distressed the towers' structure, which eventually collapsed.â?�

â??The movement's answer to that report was written by Steven E. Jones, a professor of physics at Brigham Young University and the movement's expert in the matter of collapse. Dr. Jones, unlike Alex Jones, is a soft-spoken man who lets his writing do the talking. He composed an account of the destruction of the towers that holds that â??pre-positioned cutter-chargesâ?? brought the buildings down.â?�

Feuer paints this rag-tag group in non-threatening, almost affectionate terms: â??[Group press director Michael] Berger, 40, is typical of 9/11 Truthers -- a group that, in its rank and file, includes professors, chain-saw operators, mothers, engineers, activists, used-book sellers, pizza deliverymen, college students, a former fringe candidate for United States Senate and a long-haired fellow named hummux (pronounced who-mook) who, on and off, lived in a cave for 15 years.â?�

Feuer brings up more palatable conspiracy theories, as if to shield the 9/11-mongers: â??Like a prior generation of skeptics -- those who doubted, say, the Warren Commission or the government's account of the Gulf of Tonkin attack -- the 9/11 Truthers are dogged, at home and in the office, by friends and family who suspect that they may, in fact, be completely nuts.â?�
Feuer even promotes evidence that â??Bush was responsible for 9/11â?� is a relatively mainstream view: â??It would even seem the Truthers are not alone in believing the whole truth has not come out. A poll released last month by Zogby International found that 42 percent of all Americans believe the 9/11 Commission â??concealed or refused to investigate critical evidenceâ?? in the attacks.â?�

But the pollâ??s co-author was David Kubiak itself, who spoke at the conference. And hereâ??s the question that led to that â??42%â?� answer.
â??Some people believe that the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks, saying there has been a cover-up. Others say that the 9/11 Commission was a bi-partisan group of honest and well-respected people and that there is no reason they would want to cover-up anything. Who are you more likely to agree with?â?�
(Go here to see how slanted the poll truly is.) http://www.911truth.org/images/911TruthZogbyPollFinalReport.htm

The 42% figure is far too high and speaks badly of the gullibility of many phone poll-takers, but the question itself is loaded to deliver the first, skeptical answer. The second choice, with the sarcastic tone about â??honest and well-respected people,â?� perks up knee-jerk U.S. cynicism of government -- the subtext is that only a chump would think the government is full of â??honest and well-respected people.â?� People donâ??t want to be seen as naïve or unsophisticated, so they feign doubt where previously none existed.

The Times has not been nearly as respectful when it comes to right-wing conspiracy theorists alleging perfidy in Democratic administrations. See Timesâ?? contributing writer (Times Select $ required) Philip Weissâ??s â??The Clinton Hatersâ?� for the February 23, 1997 edition of the Sunday magazine, on those who questioned the verdict of suicide in the Vince Foster case.
The Foster-suicide skeptics arenâ??t seen as lovable losers the way Feuer portrayed the 9/11 skeptics. Weissâ??s 9,000-word article refers to Clinton â??hatersâ?� six times, â??Clinton craziesâ?� 11 times and four â??far rightsâ?� for good measure. While Feuerâ??s tone is sometimes skeptical, he doesnâ??t see a single hater or crazy among a sea of people holding up signs declaiming the â??Bush junta,â?� or alleging that Bush instigated the destruction of the Twin Towers.

UPDATE: The folks at 911truth.org appreciated Feuer's story, linking to it yesterday and noting with approval that it was drawing attacks from the "rightist blogworld" (that would be, um, me).

"In the meantime allow us to share another bit of history, the New York Times' first recognition of our existence, which has been the most popular story on AOL News all day. Yes, there are the expected hits and snickers, but Feuer had to get it through his editors and to his credit he inserts enough meat and salient points to make our case quite clear, clear enough in fact to already draw attacks from the rightist blogworld. - Ed."