Lies about the lies

[intangible child]

Watch here!
http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/rum.320.240.mov

http://www.truthuncovered.com/

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."~ J. Edgar Hoover

[Psycho4Bud]

Your first link leads to no where....

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[minnesota man]

See, see. Rumsfeld lied. Now what? You wanna cut and run??? You want to impeach the president??? You wanna let Saddam go??? What the hell do you want??? Tangential child, you just want some revenge because your democratic party is in the shitter. Your happy to wipe your ass with the American flag so you can get some satisfaction.

Let me tell you something, you little knitpickers, if you want to attack the king, you better kill him because if you don't, you're gonna sink even lower than the pit you're already in.

See you in November. Muhahaha.

[intangible child]

See, see. Rumsfeld lied. Now what? You wanna cut and run??? You want to impeach the president??? You wanna let Saddam go??? What the hell do you want??? Tangential child, you just want some revenge because your democratic party is in the shitter. Your happy to wipe your ass with the American flag so you can get some satisfaction.

Let me tell you something, you little knitpickers, if you want to attack the king, you better kill him because if you don't, you're gonna sink even lower than the pit you're already in.

See you in November. Muhahaha.

No I want to bring the troops home and send every F**kin B*s*tard and Bi*ch that voted for Bush over to Iraq!

Bush says Bring 'Em On, but we say BRING THEM HOME NOW
http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

President Bush says he is keeping Americans in Iraq because it is his calling to bring freedom to the world. Freedom. If Bush decides to reinstitute the draft, he be will destroying Americansâ?? freedom so that he can spread freedom to Iraq, the Middle East, and beyond. Does that make sense?

[minnesota man]

Oh OK. This is why democrats suck at defense. There is no logic in their stratagy--only blind rage that governs their decisions.

[Fengzi]

See, see. Rumsfeld lied. Now what? You wanna cut and run??? You want to impeach the president??? You wanna let Saddam go??? What the hell do you want??? Tangential child, you just want some revenge because your democratic party is in the shitter. Your happy to wipe your ass with the American flag so you can get some satisfaction.

Let me tell you something, you little knitpickers, if you want to attack the king, you better kill him because if you don't, you're gonna sink even lower than the pit you're already in.

See you in November. Muhahaha.

Spoken like a true suporter of Dubya. Bush and his administration lied in order to persue his own agenda, and get us into a war with Iraq, and you guys are so blinded by party loyalty you just roll over and accept it. They could catch Bush molesting some 8 year old little girl and all he'd have to do was claim it was in the name of "fighting the war on terror" and you guys would think it was ok. It would be like "See, see. Bush fucked a little girl? Now what? Impeach him? You just want some revenge because your democratic party is in the shitter" LOL

I'm definietly not a democrat, not a replublican either, but I do tend to lean more towards the right on a lot of issues. I have to admit, however, that the Bush administration is an absolute joke. It amazes me that so many people can't see it as well. Bush is an idiot. My guess is that he figured the only way he wouldn't go down in history as the moron president was to be remembered as the president that took down Saddam. So, he lied and did whatever else it took to get us into Iraq. My guess is that, 10 years from now, the history books will say both things.

[eg420ne]

IMO demopublicans are one in the same. The republicans want to drive america off the cliff at 100mph, and the democrats want to drive america off the cliff at 65mph, Is There A 3rd choice thats willing to drive american on the straight path

[minnesota man]

Fengzi, you're crazy. Just because I don't want to join in the "Liar, liar, Bush is a liar" chorus, you say I condone child molestation. WTF. Why can't you democrats/liberals/moderates/progressives put up or shut up? I think you've got a shot at impeachment but trust me, we tried that with Clinton and it took years to wipe that egg off our faces. But by all means, do what you gotta do. I am so fucking tired of the childish name calling and lack of a real alternative from the democrats.

I'm a Bush supporter? I'm a neo-con? Whatever. I am what I am and I'm gonna call it like I see it. What I am weary of is the incessant Bush bashing. I mean how long can you keep that up without doing anything about it other than post funny pictures that I really think are funny?

[eg420ne]

LoL thats what pictures are for..By the way Whats the republicans exit strategy, do they have one. there is no exit, this is The Long War, how long well they said 100yrs, better start producing babies. its why i think democrats dont have a chance.. They got their Pearl Harbor event in the name of 911 It forced America in this for the long war unless something radical is done to stop it then it will continue onward...The long war http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Rumsfeld Offers Strategies for Current War

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/02/AR2006020202296.html

[Psycho4Bud]

By the way Whats the republicans exit strategy, do they have one.

Well lets see once:

Have a temp. government election to get a constitution in place.....DONE
Have that constitution voted on/passed by the people........DONE
Have a fully elected government.....DONE
Get Iraqi forces trained......over 250,000 to date
Reconstruct infrustructure.......in process

Sorry, but neither side has a magic wand. These things takes time....as in the famous words of Guns and Roses:
Said, sugar, make it slow
And we come together fine
All we need is just a little patience
(patience)
Mm, yeah

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

Surely Iraqâ??s not all cookies n creme still a long ways to go, Still a bloody mess.. But its still about the Long War and thatâ??s what the neo-conâ??s agenda is all about..This is their war and I do think its going the neo-cons way The long war will go on for decades, and Iraq is the center of it all, theyâ??re not building huge military bases in Iraq for nothing.. I will quote myself---
Whats the republicans exit strategy, do they have one. there is no exit, this is The Long War, how long well they said 100yrs, better start producing babies. its why i think democrats dont have a chance.. They got their Pearl Harbor event in the name of 911 It forced America in this for the long war unless something radical is done to stop it then it will continue onward...The long war http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf






"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

[Fengzi]

Fengzi, you're crazy. Just because I don't want to join in the "Liar, liar, Bush is a liar" chorus, you say I condone child molestation. WTF. Why can't you democrats/liberals/moderates/progressives put up or shut up? I think you've got a shot at impeachment but trust me, we tried that with Clinton and it took years to wipe that egg off our faces. But by all means, do what you gotta do. I am so fucking tired of the childish name calling and lack of a real alternative from the democrats.


I'm not crazy minnesota, and I'm not trying to insinuate that you actually condone child molestation. I'm just trying to make a point. That point is that Bush seems to do whatever he wants, be it illegal wire tapping, lying in order to invade a foriegn country, etc. and all he has to say is "I'm the President and I'm fighting the war on terror so it's ok" and the Republicans and conservatives just clap their hands and say "oh, guess it's ok then"

Actually, you got to hand it to the guy, he (or Rove)has found a way to wiggle out of any sticky situation that may come his way. Clinton's problem was that he tried to worm his way out the Lewinsky thing first by lying and then by being apologetic. Bush would just say "Yeah, I did it, I'm the President and some intern gave me a blow job. I spooged on her dress and it felt good. If you criticize me your unpatriotic" and I'm sure the whole thing would be forgotten in a few days. Well, except for those who think that a President should do what is best for the country and not his ego. But then we're just childish Bush bashers. Right?

[birdgirl73]

Fengzi, I just think the world of you. Truly I do. You're an excellent explainer and teacher, and I've thought that before and never told you so. Thank you for not only putting the whole blinds-wearing Bush devotion into perspective but also for doing it in a way with which I agree wholeheartedly.

[Fengzi]

Aww, thanks birdgirl. Sometimes I can offend people with my bluntness (sorry minnesota-I really didn't mean to say you condone child molestation) but I just call 'em like I see 'em. I'm glad that at least some people people can agree with my point of view ;)

[birdgirl73]

I like your bluntness. And I always find myself agreeing with you. You're very good at getting to the heart of the matter. It'd be fun sometime to just sit down and talk politics and travel.

[intangible child]

Your first link leads to no where....

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

I fixed it thanks!:) Here it is again.
http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/rum.320.240.mov

[minnesota man]

Fengzi,

I know what you're saying and you're right. I do question some things but probably not often enough.

The thing about the war is that it's hell. It's controlled chaos. The war is on and for better or worse I'm going to support it until we win.

The terrorists in Iraq depend on Democrats pounding on Bush to strip away support for the war and I don't want to give them the satisfaction.

So I will question the U. S. government more often (but not about this war) if you and edge will question your news source more often. Deal?

-mm

[Psycho4Bud]

So I will question the U. S. government more often (but not about this war) if you and edge will question your news source more often. Deal?

-mm

What would be to question?

Iraq had WMD's as stated in another thread..
Saddam broke countless U.N. resolutions...
He committed acts of genocide on the Kurds and Shi'ites in which he is now being tried....
He paid families of martyrs $25,000....

And this is only the top four reasons.....the list of reasons for him and his sons goes on and on....

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Miss Green]

No I want to bring the troops home and send every F**kin B*s*tard and Bi*ch that voted for Bush over to Iraq!

Bush says Bring 'Em On, but we say BRING THEM HOME NOW
http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

President Bush says he is keeping Americans in Iraq because it is his calling to bring freedom to the world. Freedom. If Bush decides to reinstitute the draft, he be will destroying Americansâ?? freedom so that he can spread freedom to Iraq, the Middle East, and beyond. Does that make sense?

So true. Truely the gig is up those that believe in this fairy tail seriously its all there,and to boot you have saddam,there was no weapons of mass destructions so what on earth are you there wasting innocent man,women and children on both sides,are you really proud of turning Iraq into the stone ages?And its it truely worth all the money and just think about (I know it will be hard for you to comprehend war lovers)how much debt america will be in after the war is finished!When ever that will be!:rolleyes: This war is a joke and should of never happened in the first place it is a sham and when the rest of the world wakes up it will be to late by than because it will be known as the Dark Ages,Shameful.And whats more funny is your trying to force these people to have democracy when America doesn't even have democracy - funny that.:thumbsup:

[WalkaWalka]

So hes a bad man thats not our fucking problem theres worse. We are not the world police.

[graymatter]

I'm not crazy minnesota, and I'm not trying to insinuate that you actually condone child molestation. I'm just trying to make a point. That point is that Bush seems to do whatever he wants, be it illegal wire tapping, lying in order to invade a foriegn country, etc. and all he has to say is "I'm the President and I'm fighting the war on terror so it's ok" and the Republicans and conservatives just clap their hands and say "oh, guess it's ok then"

Actually, you got to hand it to the guy, he (or Rove)has found a way to wiggle out of any sticky situation that may come his way. Clinton's problem was that he tried to worm his way out the Lewinsky thing first by lying and then by being apologetic. Bush would just say "Yeah, I did it, I'm the President and some intern gave me a blow job. I spooged on her dress and it felt good. If you criticize me your unpatriotic" and I'm sure the whole thing would be forgotten in a few days. Well, except for those who think that a President should do what is best for the country and not his ego. But then we're just childish Bush bashers. Right?

Good to read this Fengzi... Like you, I have several right leaning streaks in me, like my belief in fiscal conservatism. I've always felt that if you can't afford the cost then don't initiate the program. But the right's handling of fiscal responsibility makes me question whether they're responsible enough to handle the job... or visionary enough to invest in things other than war.

[Binzhoubum]

IMO demopublicans are one in the same. The republicans want to drive america off the cliff at 100mph, and the democrats want to drive america off the cliff at 65mph, Is There A 3rd choice thats willing to drive american on the straight path

Agreed!

Peace! :smokin: