I NEED TO KNOW IF I CAN GROW

[elwikiwiki]

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I NEED TO KNOW IF I CAN GROW 4 HAZE PLANTS WITH THIS:


125 Watt Compact Fluorescent Warm Grow Bulb
The 125 wATT Mogul base, self-ballasted lamp . At almost 60 lumens per watt it is energy efficient and extremely effective, . This biggest selling feature of fluorescents is the reduced heat when compared to the High Intensity Discharge. This is a 2700K full spectrum warm lamp. 10,000 hours of life.

ANY ANSWERS GUIDES AND TIPS ARE WELCOME THANKS IN ADVANCE

[Pothead4204life]

Well i WOULD tell you to go read but since iam nice, NO you can't grow 4 plants with that 1 CFL, it produces what? 2500 lumens? You need at least 10,000, so I would get 4 more bulbs.....and also get a higher kelvin temperature like 6000K....the warm will do best for flowering.......

[Pothead4204life]

whoops misred your watts....you have 7500 lumens...damn weed...anyway i would try to get more if you could

[gsxxer]

If you only have one 125watt i would only do 2 plants

and 4 sativas would be way to much because they get really tall, so there would be 4 tall plants branched out everywhere under one 125 wtt is not going to happen, it would just end up decreasin your yield and overall bud potency. More plants dont mean more yeild in certain situations...you can have 1 plant veg it a little longer, do LST or scrog to make it nice and bushy and it can yield as much as 4 overcrowded plants not getting enough light.

go with indica;s, or hybrids that you know wont stretch alot.. you could still grow sativas but under the floursecent it would be good to do a Scrog with 2 plants and a short veg so you can match up the footprint of the light to the screen and have the light adjusted the way you want it over an even canapony.

and some sativas take almost twice as long as indicas to flower...sativas take like 70-90 (some over 100) and indicas can be as short as 45-65

what type of system are you growing..hydro, soil? it can be more helpful as far as plant numbers go

[gsxxer]

oh yeah i forgot to mention that a while ago i underestimated CFL lights..

so i had a 65 watt and was vegging 2 seeds i had in DWC in a 1.5' x 2' area.
Those things go bushy and were growing very nice..the stems got thick and plants were growing at a good rate...one died because of an animal..now 3 months later i have this big ass over 3ft plant thats 1.5' around from 1 65watt! its literally like 3.4' ft and looks healthy as hell, i wish i had a camera

i was suprised...3 weeks ago i did add a little 35 watt lamp to light up the side shoots and it helped but still got really big with just the 65w, im keeping it as a mother plant as it has already showed sex, and im pissed i didnt lst a while a go, and now its to late becasue the stem is so thick, now i dont know how much longer i can keep it under that light it just keeps growing! i might cut a clone off and start a new one and do it the right way now that i know its female

[elwikiwiki]

MORE TIPS AND GUIDE LINES ARE WELCOME!!!!!!!

[elwikiwiki]

If you only have one 125watt i would only do 2 plants

and 4 sativas would be way to much because they get really tall, so there would be 4 tall plants branched out everywhere under one 125 wtt is not going to happen, it would just end up decreasin your yield and overall bud potency. More plants dont mean more yeild in certain situations...you can have 1 plant veg it a little longer, do LST or scrog to make it nice and bushy and it can yield as much as 4 overcrowded plants not getting enough light.

go with indica;s, or hybrids that you know wont stretch alot.. you could still grow sativas but under the floursecent it would be good to do a Scrog with 2 plants and a short veg so you can match up the footprint of the light to the screen and have the light adjusted the way you want it over an even canapony.

and some sativas take almost twice as long as indicas to flower...sativas take like 70-90 (some over 100) and indicas can be as short as 45-65

what type of system are you growing..hydro, soil? it can be more helpful as far as plant numbers go
THANKS FUCKIN LUV U GUYS LOL O AND IM GROWING USING SOIL IMA SEE IF I GET THAT MIRACLE GROW SHIT THAT FEEDS THE PLANTS 4 LIKE 3 MONTHS THAT SHOULD BE THE ENTIRE PROCESS RIGHT

[Jdog7000]

Don't use miracle grow.
Rule number 1 growing cannabis.
Don't use miracle grow products.
Use nutes meant for MJ.
Like Fox farm.

[elwikiwiki]

NO MIRACLE GROW? THANKS 4 THE ADVICE THIS IS WHAT IM GROWING

Strawberry Haze



Awards: not yet introduced to
competitions.
Genetics: Swiss sativa, NL5 Haze Mist.
Effect: Very mild body effect, strong
cerebral high. Very creative and social. Voted best strain at the Green House V.I.S. Smoking Panel 2005.
Flowering indoor: most growers harvest after 10 weeks. A week longer will allow
maximum flavour. Yield 500 to 600 gr/sqm.
Flowering outdoor: ready around end of October in the Northern hemisphere; around end of May in the Southern.
Yield up to 800 gr/plant.
THC: 20,4% CBD: 1.2% CBN: 0.9%

[Jdog7000]

Sounds great.
Is this your first grow.
You know your growing a difficult strain for your first time.
Just make sure you flower it right after it roots.
Or it will get too big for your room.
It will take about 12 weeks to finish at the least.
Is this going to be too long for you?
I suggest an indica for your first grow.
Like Northern Lights.
Or Cinderella 99 for a sativa.

[Jdog7000]

By the way.
You posted this in the wrong spot.

[elwikiwiki]

I MIGHT GROW A CROSS BREED OF NORTHERN LIGHTS X HAZE

[elwikiwiki]

HOW DO U DETERMINE THE YIELD PER PLANT IF IT SAYS

Yield 500 to 600 gr/sqm.

[Jdog7000]

You can't deturmine the yield.
Too many factors change it.
Go with the Northern Lights x haze.
Thats easier to grow and the buds are killer.
Just don't harvest too early.
Haze takes a long time to flower.At least 10-12 weeks.
If you comapre that to a 6-7 week indica.
You can see what I mean.
And if you harvest earl;y. You've waisted all that time and money.

[elwikiwiki]

so this would be better 4 me

Genetics: Skunk, Northern Light, El Niño.
Effect: very known for its medicinal
properties, it is sold in the Dutch
pharmacies as prescription medicine. Relaxing and calming effect.
Flowering indoor: 9 weeks will guarantee the full range of cannabinoids. Commercially ready in 8 weeks. Yield up to 800 gr/sqm. Very good on SOG and ScrOG systems.
Flowering outdoor: ready at the beginning of October in the Northern hemisphere and in April in the Southern one.
Yield up to 1000 gr/plant.
THC: 15,5% CBD: 1.5% CBN: 0.4%

[m.g.]

sativa's don't do very well with low intensity light such as that. they'll grow and ripen ok but the buds are light and airy with a light yield. if i were doing haze and only had one flouro i'd be at the hardware store buying more flouro's! indica is better suited for low light conditions but even there you'll find less production and a poorer quality product than if you had used higher intensity light. any chance of you growing that haze under the sun? it'll do a helluva lot better and you'll be far happier with the outcome if they can be raised outdoors...

[elwikiwiki]

LETS ESTIMATE 2 PLANTS UNDER THAT LIGHT HOW MANY GRAMS OR OUNCES U THINK ITLL PRODUCE?

[elwikiwiki]

2 75W HPS LIGHTS, COMPLETE PREWIRED W/ BULBS AND BALLAST

[gsxxer]

hell yeah...alot better, hps is what your suppose to be using...and its more watts than the 125 cfl combined both 75s, plus you get better light coverage becas its 2 lights.

trust me bro, if this is your first grow, dont get any sativa strain...get a strain that is really easy to grow and flowers fast and will still be dank as hell, there are fast flowering strains that have a sativa high but dont grow like them. and make sure about the stretch, even though there hps 75 w doesnt have alot of penetration, so you need to keep them short, best bend over.. LST

but with 150 hps you should yield at least around an ounce for your first grow...when you get better around 2 ounces...the most you could get from that wattage is a little over 4 ounces, and thats with a good yielding strain and having alot of expierence with that strain.

anyways yes its better, but there will be more heat, so make sure you have proper ventilation and keep temps around 75..dont go over 85 (w/o co2) humidity around 50%, dont let it go alot over that, the last thing you want before harvest is mold, espically watch it the last 2 weeks of flower, try and keep it around 40-45%. If all that is in check, you start with good genetics, dont mess up on the nutes you should have a nice harvest

[elwikiwiki]

YO U MADE MY DAY THANKS FOR EVERYTHING I FOUND UR ADVICE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL ALSO U THINK MY VENTILATION WILL BE GOOD IF I GET A 3Q Ionic Tower Air Purifier/Ionizer/Cleaner AND A FAN

ALSO HOW MANY PLANT CAN I GROW WITH THESE 2 HPS 75 WATT JOINTS AT THE MOST I WAS THINKIN 2 PLANTS MAYBE THREE WHAT DO U THINK?

[hairboy 1]

Im using 400 watt metal halide for vegitative growth.
and then later I will use high pressure sodium 400 watt for
flowering.

[gsxxer]

with those 2 75 w is 150w total so in an 1.7' x 1.7' area would be 50 watts per square ft wich is want you want for hps...

so get a measuring tape and outline that area and picture plants being in there and how many you think it could handle..

do you plan on using femenized beans or regular ones? I would only grow out 2 plants at most, but thats if i had clones that i knew were female...if your just starting with seed you would want to have 4 sprouted in that area, and before it starts getting too overcrowded they show sex and pull out the males and hopefully end up with 2 females to finish out.

you dont want to just start 2 seeds, what if they both turn out male? that would suck..even if you plant 4 seeds you could get 1 male, 3 females, or 1 female and 3 males, etc...you just never know

technically you could have 9 plants in that area if you did a SOG, but you need to already have clones becasue there would be no room to deal with males.

research whatever strain you pick good so you will know around what height to flower it at so it fills up the space nicely and doesnt get too overcrowded...

if you had 2 healthy femal plants in the end, and everything goes well with a good yeilding strain you should get around 20grams dried bud of each plant for your first grow...but that doesnt mean add another plant and its another 20 grams, you have to make sure everything is balanced out.

im not sure what the ionic thing will do as far as heat, i mean i think it puts off a little breaze, may help with the smell a little bit...have the fan blowing right under the light so it blows the radiant heat away while blowing air to the plants.

i cant tell you how many fans you need...just dont let the tempss go over 85 or humidity over 55%...so however many fans you need to keep it at that is what you need to do, heat stress can obviously kill plants, but it slows growth and decreases overall yield, imagine if you were the plants under there how you would like it

and dont forget not to overwater, that is one of the number one mistake for first time growers in soil, or overferting, but im sure you have researched your soil method. peace

[Jdog7000]

I use a 4 tube 5 foot floro for seedlings and vegging.
I use a 400 watt MH for my mothers.
And 1 or 2 HPS lights for flowering.

[m.g.]

el, i always plan for planting three times the amount i'm looking for in my outdoor grows and twice as many as i'll need for indoor. this allows for males, plants turned into meals by the pests and those that 'fail to thrive'...and even then i often come up short and have to rely on clones to cover the space. and with you being a beginner and all, i'd plant 10 and hope for 3 nice keeper-ladies...

[Jdog7000]

That sounds about right to me.^^^^

[weedheaduknow]

i'm also a beginner and i would use the search engine but its not working for me (anybody else having this problem??) I just wanted to know whats a good soil to use from beginning to end?? I'll add perlite of course unless the soil u suggests already contains it. Also should i only use ph balanced water or is using faucet water ok?? Finally, if i must use ph balanced water, how do i go about doing that and what is the cheapest ph tester?? Sorry for all the questions but yeah....Thanks!!!!

[orangeman]

No, get more wattage.

[latewood]

Sorry guys, Good thread, but we are moving to the Indoor Growing...peace