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pisshead
06-19-2006, 07:45 PM
N. Korea Has Already 'Mock Nuked' Alaska - With US Government Help
New reports about threat of missile launch omit key facts
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 19 2006 (http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)

Reports today concerning the completed fueling of North Korea's long range Taepodong-2 missile and its planned launch within a month omit several key aspects of the story, including the fact that North Korea already launched a missile that hit Alaska, with the help of the US government.

In March 2003, the Korea Times (http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm) reported that the U.S. National Assembly included a startling admission in its final report regarding Pyongyang??s missile capabilities.

A nuclear-capable North Korean test warhead was found in Alaska.
``According to a U.S. document, the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska,???? former Japanese foreign minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report. ``Washington, as well as Tokyo, has so far underrated Pyongyang??s missile capabilities.????

A story that would have expected to garner front page headlines for days was completely blacked out in the US, with not one single newspaper choosing to report it.

The reason?

How could the Bush administration sell a war against a country with no means to defend itself and as it later transpired with no weapons of mass destruction, when a country with WMD was firing long-range nuclear capable missiles that were hitting the western coast of the US?

The 1994 Agreed Framework deal gave North Korea the capacity to generate enough nuclear fuel to produce almost 100 nuclear bombs per year. A 1999 congressional study (http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/10/19/114657) undertaken by the House North Korea Advisory Group warned,

??Through the provision of two light water reactors [LWRs] under the 1994 Agreed Framework, the United States, through KEDO, will provide North Korea with the capacity to produce annually enough fissile material for nearly 100 nuclear bombs, should the Democratic People's Republic of Korea [DPRK] decide to violate the Nonproliferation Treaty [NPT].?

In April 2002 the Bush administration announced that it would release $95 million of American taxpayer??s dollars to begin construction of the ??harmless?? light water reactors. Bush argued that arming the megalomaniac dictator Kim Jong-Il with the potential to produce a hundred nukes a year was, ??vital to the national security interests of the United States.? Bush released even more money in January 2003, as reported by Bloomberg News (http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_012003_nkorea.html),

??President George W. Bush is seeking $3.5 million for the international consortium that continues to build two nuclear reactors for North Korea, even as the U.S. confronts the communist regime over nuclear arms.?
The company that got the contract to deliver equipment and services to build the two light water reactor stations was ABB (Asea Brown Boveri), which describes itself as, ??a leader in power and automation technologies that enable utility and industry customers to improve performance while lowering environmental impact.? The contract was valued at $200 million and was signed (http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.nsf!OpenDatabase&db=/global/ABBZH/abbzh250.nsf&v=c&e=us&c=316DCEEDCA12D32E4125686C00433604) in January 2000.

It should not surprise us that our old friend Donald Rumsfeld, the man who paved the way for U.S. companies to sell Iraq chemical and biological weapons in 1983, was an executive director for ABB from 2000-2001. Rumsfeld resigned when he was appointed U.S. Secretary of Defense.

Wolfram Eberhardt, a spokesman for ABB confirmed that Rumsfeld was at nearly all the board meetings during his involvement with the company. The meetings were held quarterly in Zurich, Switzerland. However, Rumsfeld again displays his uncanny ability to forget things in stating that he ??doesn??t remember?? the issue of North Korea being brought before the ABB board. Swiss Info (http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=1648385) concluded,

??Rumsfeld??s position at ABB could prove embarrassing for the Bush administration since while he was a director he was also active on issues of weapons proliferation, chairing the 1998 congressional Ballistic Missile Threat commission.?

North Korea is controlled by a hereditary Stalinist dictatorship that has starved two million of its citizens to death in favor of building a million-man army. Some people put the figure at four million, one-quarter of the population. In the far north of the country there is a network of forced labor gulags (http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp?0cl=cR) where people who have ??expressed a bland political opinion?? are, along with their entire families, tortured, raped and executed. Horrific bio-chemical experiments are performed on mass numbers of people.

Babies are delivered and then stamped to death by the camp guards. If the mother screams while the guards are stamping on the baby??s neck, she is immediately assassinated by a firing squad. These guards are rewarded with bonuses and promotions for ripping out prisoners?? eyeballs.

The North Korean people are enslaved by a government that is using food as a weapon. Perhaps this is why the EU and the United States, via the UN World Food Program, resumed the shipment of hundreds of
thousands of tons in food aid at the end of February 2003. This goes directly to the sitting dictatorship, which then decides who gets it by their level of allegiance to the state. Food aid only increases the power of Kim Jong-Il and yet it is veiled by the UN in bleeding heart humanitarian rhetoric. The money goes straight to enabling the North Korean leadership to live in the lap of westernized luxury with casinos and lavish new cars.

President Bush publicly claims to loathe Kim Jong-Il and yet his administration, like Bill Clinton before him, has armed North Korea to the teeth with anything up to and beyond 200 nuclear bombs.

Under the 1994 Agreed Framework, the Clinton administration agreed to replace North Korea??s domestically built nuclear reactors with light water nuclear reactors. So-called government-funded ??experts?? stated that light water reactors couldn??t be used to make bombs. Not so according to Henry Sokolski, head of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Centre in Washington,

??LWRs could be used to produce dozens of bombs' worth of weapons-grade plutonium in both North Korea and Iran. This is true of all LWRs -- a depressing fact U.S. policymakers have managed to block out.?
Sokolski has also gone on the record (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1908571.stm) as saying,

??These reactors are like all reactors, they have the potential to make weapons. So you might end up supplying the worst nuclear violator with the means to acquire the very weapons we're trying to prevent it acquiring.?

The U.S. State Department contends that the light water reactors cannot be used to produce bomb grade material and yet in 2002 urged Russia to end its nuclear co-operation with Iran for the reason that it doesn??t want Iran armed with weapons of mass destruction. Russia is building light water reactors in Iran. The State Department announced (http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/arms/03020321.htm)on its own web site,
??In the official answer to a question asked at the January 31 State Department daily briefing, the State Department said the United States has "consistently urged Russia to cease all [nuclear] cooperation with Iran, including its assistance to the light water reactor at Bushehr.?

??We have underscored to Russia that an end to Russian nuclear assistance to Iran would allow the United States and Russia to reap the full promise of our new strategic relationship, benefiting Russia economically and strategically far more than any short-term gain from construction of additional reactors or other sensitive transfers to Iran.?

According to the State Department, light water reactors in Iran can produce nuclear material but somehow the same rule doesn??t apply in North Korea.

Despite this it seems that the Iranians are beginning to learn an important lesson.

Rogue states with absolutely no means to defend themselves are picked off by the Globalists on a whim, but countries that have amassed a nuclear arsenal, with receipts from the US government to prove it, seem to become immune to the Bush administration's global democracy drive, no matter how atrocious their human rights record.

Fengzi
06-19-2006, 08:19 PM
North Korea has long been the most serious threat to the U.S. and worldwide stability, especially in the East Asian region. Unlike Iraq, North Korea would be a formidable opponent. For 1/2 a century they have devoted nearly 100% of their national resources solely to preparing for an eventual war with the U.S and the ROK. We recently reached the 2500 dead milestone in Iraq. This is after 3 years. It is likely that we would reach that milestone after the first 3 days of an all out war with the DPRK, and that's assuming it stays conventional.

Given our strong economic ties to the region a prolonged war here would have devastating effects on the U.S. economy. U.S. business interests in S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan and China would all suffer. This isn't a war in some god forsaken desert, this would be a war in the high-tech capital of the world. The U.S. simply isn't ready to deal with a disruption to the satus quo in this area. Perhaps this is the main reason why we have avoided going to war with North Korea.

So, why did Bush go after Saddam when Kim Jong Il is the real threat? The answer is simple Bush is a bully and like all bullies he does what he does because it makes him feel big and important. And, like all bullies, he only goes after those who have no chance of defending themselves. In the face of a real threat he will turn tail and run.

birdgirl73
06-19-2006, 10:14 PM
It's terrifying, isn't it? Here we've thrown all this money and military might--and are stilll throwing it--into a foundationless war that was launched for reasons that never really existed. And now we really need our resources for the very real threat that's been there in north Korea all along--and possibly for the burgeoning threat in Iran as well. For me, it's yet another reason I cannot and will not ever trust this administration's judgment.

Myth1184
06-19-2006, 11:38 PM
you guys take this prisonplanet stuff to seriously, this would be ALL OVER the news if Korea sent a missile into US airspace..but..yet..its nowhere to be found..except on these Tinfoil hat sites

HazardousToking
06-19-2006, 11:45 PM
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Fengzi
06-20-2006, 04:38 PM
you guys take this prisonplanet stuff to seriously, this would be ALL OVER the news if Korea sent a missile into US airspace..but..yet..its nowhere to be found..except on these Tinfoil hat sites
Actually, I think prisonplanet is pretty much the biggest pile of shit that can be found on the web. Along with all the other wacko conspiracy theory websites that pissy loves to cut and paste from. And, I gotta agree that the "missle found in Alaska" story is pretty far fetched. At least the way it is presented. Assuming that a piece of a missle was found, it was most likely found washed up on a beach. North Korea has tested missles in the past and the ocean currents would tend to bring things from East Asia right up to Alaska. So, it isn't that unlikley that a piece of a missle that never came close to U.S. airspace could wash up on a beach in Alaska after bouncing around the ocean for a few years.Or, it could all be prison planet bullshit.

That doesn't mean that North Korea is not an actual threat, however, and a threat far greater than Saddam ever was. No more than five minutes after my first post in this thread I read a newspaper article that U.S. satellites confirmed that N. Korea had fueled a long range ballistic missle, apparently in preparation for a test launch. This is far from Saddam being pissed about the fact that the U.S was bossing him and sending inspectors to look for things that didn't exists. North Korea does have WMD's, waves them under our noses, and taunts us with them.
Anybody who thinks that Iraq was a greater threat to world security than North Korea is either stupid or so far up Dubya's ass that they can't see the light of day anymore.

Bong30
06-20-2006, 07:04 PM
mock

Practice makes perfect.................:thumbsup:

graymatter
06-21-2006, 02:33 PM
Military planners say war with North Korea is a nightmare scenario.

So, what makes it a justifiable option elsewhere?

EU officials have described the U.S. as the biggest threat to world peace.

likemclever
06-23-2006, 05:39 AM
The only reason why North Korea has like a bagillion people in there military is because if your not in the military than you don??t get to eat (not kidding.)

Secondly, we would never go toe to toe with North Korea we would/should nuke them. Sure it??s unpleasant but it would save many lives.

iamapatient
06-23-2006, 05:57 AM
Prison planet... how typically pathetic. :rolleyes:

The DRPK and Iraq are/were clearly 2 different regimes with different problems and, therefore, different solutions. One blanket solution, for every problem, might work for the simple minded but it's not realistic.

Fengzi
06-23-2006, 04:44 PM
The only reason why North Korea has like a bagillion people in there military is because if your not in the military than you don??t get to eat (not kidding.)

Secondly, we would never go toe to toe with North Korea we would/should nuke them. Sure it??s unpleasant but it would save many lives.

Actually, nuking N. Korea would not be a good solution by any means. If it stays conventional, China would most likely stay out of it, preferring to kick back and be a spectator instead. If it goes nuclear, however, this would be the surest way to get China involved. Not because they'd be defending their communist brothers, but because nobody wants nukes going off in their backyard. Plus (i'm no expert on this so corrcet me if I'm wrong) wouldn't we potentailly be raining fallout on our allies-S. Korea and Japan?


Prison planet... how typically pathetic. :rolleyes:

The DRPK and Iraq are/were clearly 2 different regimes with different problems and, therefore, different solutions. One blanket solution, for every problem, might work for the simple minded but it's not realistic.
Very true, iamapatient. While I don't agree that we should have gone into Iraq in the first place, it is very simpleminded of those who think we should have just gone to N. Korea instead. It's a whole different ball of wax with far greater ramifications.

iamapatient
06-23-2006, 08:40 PM
Actually, nuking N. Korea would not be a good solution by any means. If it stays conventional, China would most likely stay out of it, preferring to kick back and be a spectator instead. If it goes nuclear, however, this would be the surest way to get China involved. Not because they'd be defending their communist brothers, but because nobody wants nukes going off in their backyard. Plus (i'm no expert on this so corrcet me if I'm wrong) wouldn't we potentailly be raining fallout on our allies-S. Korea and Japan?


Very true, iamapatient. While I don't agree that we should have gone into Iraq in the first place, it is very simpleminded of those who think we should have just gone to N. Korea instead. It's a whole different ball of wax with far greater ramifications.
Not ture, tactical nuke strikes would not neccessarily involve China's nukes. In fact they could easily DO the nuking of the DPRK. One scenario that would serve as an example would be if they fire a missle that goes off course and ends up in China instead. Another is if America were actually attacked first by the DPRK (suicide), China would stand down. Additonally, DPRK air and sea power is a joke, we wouldn't have to nuke them to win but we certainly *could *in retaliation.

The critics are, at best, short sighted.

likemclever
06-24-2006, 12:07 AM
Actually, nuking N. Korea would not be a good solution by any means. If it stays conventional, China would most likely stay out of it, preferring to kick back and be a spectator instead. If it goes nuclear, however, this would be the surest way to get China involved. Not because they'd be defending their communist brothers, but because nobody wants nukes going off in their backyard. Plus (i'm no expert on this so corrcet me if I'm wrong) wouldn't we potentailly be raining fallout on our allies-S. Korea and Japan?


I disagree. Perhaps if China doesn??t want nukes going off in their back yard they should yank a knot in their communist brothers tail.

Nukes have come a long way since Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Check this out: http://www.fas.org/faspir/2001/v54n1/weapons.htm

(I don??t think the guy/gals at Los Alamos National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory are working on this shit around the clock because they think it??s fun)

If you don??t like my source do a search and pick your poison there are many to choose from. (I'm not sure I like my source...but I don't have the time to pick the one I do like...like I said there are many to choose from)