how is alcohol legal

[LazySmoking420]

and weed is not?

I'm really drunk for a change and it's million times more imparing than marijuana.

weed + good strong import brew = heaven...

[stevenmayenator]

I think in the west alchohol has been around for way way longer, so it's part of the culture.

[Jeff Spicoli]

you just have to deal with it :cool:

[1234abcd]

Why is alcohol legal and weed is not?

I'm really drunk for a change and it's million times more imparing than marijuana.



Great fucking point.
They tried to outlaw it in the 20s, but all the old school alkys were violent as shit so they put it back in liquor stores, and pot was actually legal then, till the 30s :thumbsup:

[Dutch Masta]

I don't really feel that Marijuana should be legalized. Once you realize why, its quite clear. The whole concept of it being illegal is what promotes the responsible use of it. When I was younger, I would think how great it would be for an entire society to be high all the time, but now I finally realize why this drug does need to be regulated. I feel that the current regulation for Marijuana is not entirely fair, and that it should atleast be decriminalized to a point where prison time should not be considerable. But then again, this fear of such penalty is what creates responsibilty with the drug. If you are using it responsibly, you won't get caught.. and its that simple.

[slipknotpsycho]

because the govt. always (for some odd fucking reason) seems to want to take shit away from their people, they tried to do that as well with alcohol, but since drunk-ards tend to be 100x more violent then potheads, (and even more widespread) it didn't work out too well so the govt. had no choice but to re-legalize it...

[nightlight]

I don't really feel that Marijuana should be legalized. Once you realize why, its quite clear. The whole concept of it being illegal is what promotes the responsible use of it. When I was younger, I would think how great it would be for an entire society to be high all the time, but now I finally realize why this drug does need to be regulated. I feel that the current regulation for Marijuana is not entirely fair, and that it should atleast be decriminalized to a point where prison time should not be considerable. But then again, this fear of such penalty is what creates responsibilty with the drug. If you are using it responsibly, you won't get caught.. and its that simple.
i dont really think things need to be outlawed in order to handle them responsibly. you didnt really give any reason as to why it should be regulated besides the lack of individuals ability to regulate their own lives, which is a direct result of depending on the government in the first place to tell you what is right and what is wrong.

[Dutch Masta]

because the govt. always (for some odd fucking reason) seems to want to take shit away from their people, they tried to do that as well with alcohol, but since drunk-ards tend to be 100x more violent then potheads, (and even more widespread) it didn't work out too well so the govt. had no choice but to re-legalize it...

Yes. The government has absolutely nothing better to do than take things away from "their" people.. I think some of you really need to learn some more about the world before you go around with ignorant standpoints and making ridiculous statements like that..

[Cooler Then Jesus]

alchohal has been around mutch longer, and is known in some religeons as holy, like wine, etc. and the real question is, why is marijuana illegal, not why is alchohal legal and marijuana NOT. marijuana was banned for the sole purpose that agriculturally, it is of Higher value than Tobacco, and ESPEACIALLY Wood trees, forr making, paper, fiber, etc. and yes DuPont, we are looking at you, they had advised the feds to outlaw it and use the mexican slang term "marihuana" for the reason,thus came reefer madness, the movie that says marijuana makes you kill people.. then for soem reason in vietnam, the government abruptly changes their mind in saying tha cambodes are selling it to the soldiers to pacify them and make them not want to fight...anyway, dupont said that marijuana is crazy, and that it should be outlawd, even though they relied only on Wood, forest, to make their carpets, paper, tape, ETC. and they used regular OIL in their paints, and cannabis Oil is superieor than to that of regular oil, and 1 acre of hemp can produce more than 4 times that of regular wood, and grows in 2 years, where as regular wood takes about 22 years. so they would go BANKRUPT. and this is a big company, beleive it or not, about 90% of the US probobly has something made by dupont, or branch of their company. they are actual blood family members, so they devise a somewhat crude plan to keep anything made of hemp off the streets.

George Washington (first american president) said this himself "sow the indian hemp seed everywhere"

i type too mutch.

[Radio Caca]

I 100% agree with Dutch Masta. I love weed, don't get me wrong. I'm just not pushing for it to be legal.

As for why is alcohol legal, I agree that it is more imparing then marijuana? Simple. MONEY.

[IwontPassOnGrass]

i love my cold beer but i would rather have weed legal then alcohol. alcohol makes some people wanna fight for no reason.

[Euphoric]

I don't really feel that Marijuana should be legalized. Once you realize why, its quite clear. The whole concept of it being illegal is what promotes the responsible use of it. When I was younger, I would think how great it would be for an entire society to be high all the time, but now I finally realize why this drug does need to be regulated. I feel that the current regulation for Marijuana is not entirely fair, and that it should atleast be decriminalized to a point where prison time should not be considerable. But then again, this fear of such penalty is what creates responsibilty with the drug. If you are using it responsibly, you won't get caught.. and its that simple.

That post was just insane dude.

Making something illegal doesnt promote responsibility. Thats ludicris!!!
All it teaches us is how to stay under the radar. We have to fend for ourselves. Millions are rotting in jail right fcking now.

Making it illegal only makes it more dangerous because we have to deal with the black market, lengthy prision terms, paranoia, harassment, unemployment, discrimination, disinformation, our children are taken away. People are dying faster because they have to take dangerous medications that could be replaced by weed. The planet is dying because hemp is so close to cannabis. How much forest is cut down each year? Think of the people dying all over the world in wars, caused by the insanity that being sober brings.
Weed should be all out legal.

[slipknotpsycho]

Yes. The government has absolutely nothing better to do than take things away from "their" people.. I think some of you really need to learn some more about the world before you go around with ignorant standpoints and making ridiculous statements like that..
i don't know whether to call you an idiot or retarded, but you're one of those two if you think my post was serious.... i'm starting to wonder about some of the people on this site, ironic tho you tell me that i need to learn abou tthe world but you can't decipher obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite...

[easton]

I hate drunks, but stoners are always chill.....fuck the man.

[birdgirl73]

It is a really baffling question, isn't it? There's clear evidence that alcohol is far more hazardous than weed. It certainly destroys more lives, kills more people, and damages more livers and other organs than any other substance on the planet (not counting food). And if alcohol is legal, then grass certainly should be, too. When the day comes that grass does become legal, some people will use it responsibly and others won't, just as is the case now with alcohol, food, and other substances that get used and misused. Adults ought to have the right to choose to use grass if they want to.

[tootsie roll]

Great fucking point.
They tried to outlaw it in the 20s, but all the old school alkys were violent as shit so they put it back in liquor stores, and pot was actually legal then, till the 30s :thumbsup:


A lot of stuff used to be legal. Coca Cola when first created had cocaine in it.
Most drugs were legal back then and used as remedies for what ailed ya.
Did you know that doctors used to masturbate their female patients to orgasam to "relieve tension"? I have a very old Montgomery Ward catalog and I was quite surprised at the very personal items for sale back then.
There is a lot of very bizarre trivia from way back when.
ok I got sidetracked. lol:dance:

[tootsie roll]

I 100% agree with Dutch Masta. I love weed, don't get me wrong. I'm just not pushing for it to be legal.

As for why is alcohol legal, I agree that it is more imparing then marijuana? Simple. MONEY.


I think at the very least, medical marijuana should be legal in every State of the USA.

[Gothen]

I think at the very least it should be decriminalized. I mean, sure decriminalization isn't exactly the best, still fined and if there is a LOT you'll go to jail. That does still promote an underground, but...at least you wouldn't have to be SO paranoid.

Plus, decriminalization is one big step towards legalization. A lot closer than we've ever been, at least.

[tootsie roll]

I think at the very least it should be decriminalized. I mean, sure decriminalization isn't exactly the best, still fined and if there is a LOT you'll go to jail. That does still promote an underground, but...at least you wouldn't have to be SO paranoid.

Plus, decriminalization is one big step towards legalization. A lot closer than we've ever been, at least.

I take an obscene amount of medication. Class II narcotics, more pain killers, sleep medication and anxiety medication. Sometimes muscle relaxers and a couple of other things. I also have to have my liver checked every 3 to 6 months because of these meds. I believe part of my anxiety is that I could be classified as a criminal for needing a medication the goverment refuses to legalize in all the States. Because of the medications, I've lost 40 pounds that I sure as hell didn't need to lose. I'm just not hungry. I'd love to be able to cut down on all the harmful medications I'm forced to ingest.

My illness is not life threatening but it does threaten my mobility. I can't afford to lose my mobility. I'm too young....married....have responsibilities.:(

[schwagster]

I hate being drunk.

Also if marijuana was legalized, it would gauranteed sell extremly well and decrease violence. When ever deals go bad, and someone ends up getting hurt, usually in the ghettos, it raises the violence rate. So it would help there, and plus since it could be taxed we could make money from it...theres a lot more reasons it should be legalized

[Dutch Masta]

Making something illegal doesnt promote responsibility. Thats ludicris!!!
All it teaches us is how to stay under the radar. We have to fend for ourselves. Millions are rotting in jail right fcking now.

Making it illegal only makes it more dangerous because we have to deal with the black market, lengthy prision terms, paranoia, harassment, unemployment, discrimination, disinformation, our children are taken away. People are dying faster because they have to take dangerous medications that could be replaced by weed. The planet is dying because hemp is so close to cannabis. How much forest is cut down each year? Think of the people dying all over the world in wars, caused by the insanity that being sober brings.
Weed should be all out legal.

Well, its not even worth it to argue with your obvious fantasy world where pot is the center of the universe.. so i'll skip to this:

If you honestly don't think that something being consequential leads to more cautiousness, then I'm not sure of any easier way to explain it to you.. so I guess you can just go ahead thinking that making things illegal, and thus having consequence do not promote more responsible and cautious behavior or use.


i don't know whether to call you an idiot or retarded, but you're one of those two if you think my post was serious.... i'm starting to wonder about some of the people on this site, ironic tho you tell me that i need to learn abou tthe world but you can't decipher obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite...

Well then you are obviously having the problem of expressing yourself if its not just me who has made you wonder about that.. and there is no such thing as "obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite" -- your post stated:

because the govt. always (for some odd fucking reason) seems to want to take shit away from their people,

..nothing in that post indicated any sarcasm, or.. "non-seriousness".

Here's something to think about when it comes to Marijuana being legal. If this ever were to happen, it would all be a business. Large, money hungry industries getting their hands on marijuana would do the same thing as the tobacco industries.. there is no question they would add unnatural addictive chemicals to marijuana at the same and it would go the way of cigarettes. It would not be cheaper, AT ALL if there was a marijuana industry (which is what it would be, if it were ever legal). It would not be cheaper, it would be much more expensive. Look at the price of a box of cigarettes and tell me how much material you possibly think is in there. I hope this never happens to marijuana.

[Captain Hanks]

alcohol used to be illegal, but prohibition didn't work and it was re-lagalised soon after...
it's a shame that more people weren't smoking pot back in the day or more people would have been fighting to keep it legal and it would have ended up that way!
allowing alcohol to be legal and cannabis not is reall bs when it comes to our politicians saying its because it will ruin our health

[icebelowfreeze]

well i thought the ONLY reason weed will never be legal is because anyone can grow it, so even if they try to tax it, if its legal everyone would be growing it and that the stingy ass government wouldnt get much. Plus there making so much on there muscle relaxers and pain killers they perscribe to any tom dick or harry that got a toothache ect. When They Made alcohal illegal, the mob got rich bootlegging it so i think they should legalize mary jane and control it to there best abillity, make restrictions. Why fill up the jail with inncocent citizens tryna get a buzz, when killers and terrorist are running loose.

[slipknotpsycho]

Well, its not even worth it to argue with your obvious fantasy world where pot is the center of the universe.. so i'll skip to this:

If you honestly don't think that something being consequential leads to more cautiousness, then I'm not sure of any easier way to explain it to you.. so I guess you can just go ahead thinking that making things illegal, and thus having consequence do not promote more responsible and cautious behavior or use.



Well then you are obviously having the problem of expressing yourself if its not just me who has made you wonder about that.. and there is no such thing as "obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite" -- your post stated:


..nothing in that post indicated any sarcasm, or.. "non-seriousness".

Here's something to think about when it comes to Marijuana being legal. If this ever were to happen, it would all be a business. Large, money hungry industries getting their hands on marijuana would do the same thing as the tobacco industries.. there is no question they would add unnatural addictive chemicals to marijuana at the same and it would go the way of cigarettes. It would not be cheaper, AT ALL if there was a marijuana industry (which is what it would be, if it were ever legal). It would not be cheaper, it would be much more expensive. Look at the price of a box of cigarettes and tell me how much material you possibly think is in there. I hope this never happens to marijuana.
so then i suppose i need to make my damn signature state "If it sounds more than likely like a 13 year old's mentality, then it's more than likely not my actual feelings on the subject, as i do not have the mentality of a 13 year old, and am a very open minded individual, even about the govt. we have, as shitty as it really is." Anyone can use 2% of their brain power and decipher something is more than likely not to be taken seriously, even over the internet. Or better yet, can even ask before making such a presumption, anyone who does otherwise isn't confused on whether to take it literal or not, but just wants that person to be serious so they may prove their points, or atleast on the internet. The internet is one giant fight, and no one is not guilty of participating in that fight, unless they're just that damned brand new to communicating with people through it, or they don't communicate with anyone through it at all.

[Dr.Smokealot]

i no everyone who i talk to about that says they would rather see alcohol illegal then marijuana

[EbelEyes]

well i thought the ONLY reason weed will never be legal is because anyone can grow it, so even if they try to tax it, if its legal everyone would be growing it and that the stingy ass government wouldnt get much.

No, if it was legal I am sure it would be illegal to grow your own. As it is illegal to make your own alcohol, and grow your own tobacco.

[EbelEyes]

Think of the people dying all over the world in wars, caused by the insanity that being sober brings.

Are you honestly saying that wars are started by people who went insane from being sober?

[Kelso]

it may well stay illegal to grow your own if it is legalised. but since when has that ever stopped us? at least we won't be hounded for toking on the streets.

[jamstigator]

Prohibition doesn't make things safer, or use more responsible. Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them. We had (alcohol) prohibition. What happened when alcohol was made illegal is that criminals took over the production and distribution, and the end product available to consumers varied wildly in terms of safety. You just never knew what you were getting, because it was all produced by criminals whose only interest was making money, not the quality of the product.

Fast forward to today. There is a prohibition against drugs now. Does the fact that drugs are illegal make them safer? Obviously not, as the recent round of poisoned heroin clearly demonstrates. People are dying needlessly because of the current drug prohibition. You often don't know what you're buying. It could be laced, it could be poison, it could be fatal, it could be safe and pure. No matter how responsibly you WANT to use your drugs of choice, you are limited in doing so by the fact that you don't have any idea what the hell you're buying. And who's running production and distribution? Again, just as happened with alcohol prohibition, it's the criminals, especially large international criminal enterprises, whose only interest is making money, not the quality or safety of their product.

Prohibition is a terrible idea. We figured that out once, but apparently, as a collective whole, we have forgotten the lesson we once learned, and are now doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Those most against any form of drug legalization or decriminalization? The criminals, of course, who have much to lose financially. If criminals WANT drugs to be illegal in order to maximize their profits, at significant cost to our citizens' lives, should we not at least ponder whether giving the criminals what they want might NOT be the wisest course of action?

[Markay]

I don't really feel that Marijuana should be legalized. Once you realize why, its quite clear. The whole concept of it being illegal is what promotes the responsible use of it. When I was younger, I would think how great it would be for an entire society to be high all the time, but now I finally realize why this drug does need to be regulated. I feel that the current regulation for Marijuana is not entirely fair, and that it should atleast be decriminalized to a point where prison time should not be considerable. But then again, this fear of such penalty is what creates responsibilty with the drug. If you are using it responsibly, you won't get caught.. and its that simple.
Look man, as a 14 year old I was able to buy some soapbar hash, covered in glue and plastic bags for a rip off price. My money probably ended up going to the IRA.

I couldnt get served alcohol at 14, I could at 16 but that's just because I look older than I am, most people cant.

So, if a 14 year old can unknowing fund terrorism, do you think the system is working? It took me 2 days to get ahold of some 'hash' once I wanted it.

[nope]

As for why is alcohol legal, I agree that it is more imparing then marijuana? Simple. MONEY.
exactly.

[Esoteric416]

Just an interesting note for those like Dutch Masta who apparently think that people are basicaliy incappable of controling their drug use if said drugs are freely available. In the 1930's and 40's amphetamines were still legal and used widely by people looking to get some extra pep, like truckers and students cramming for tests. During that time there were no reports of how meth was destroying lives because it was used responsibly. It was Harry Anslinger looking for a new ax to grind that put a new face on amphetamines.
Now I'm not saying that people don't get into trouble with meth, we all know they do, but for the most part people are fairly responsible in their drug use. Just look at the overall number of people who drink as opposed to the number who get in trouble while drinking. I don't have any stats to quote on that point but to assume that everyone doing a given drug is going to get into trouble is stupid. Also to assume that people need to have the threat of jail hung over their heads before they will put down the joint is equally rediculous.

[klonopin]

stop dissing alcohol just cause buds illegal. some people can handle there alcohol and don't act stupid

[Markay]

Its only being used in this arguement because the government is selling us a much stronger and dangerous drug than the one they are prohibiting.

[smokinbass]

our founding fathers would be agast to find a federal goverment making illegal what an otherwise law abiding adult puts in their bodies.

George Washington was the largest distiller in Virginia. And according to Martha's diary, grew and stuffed hemp into his pipe.

[Delta9 UK]

Look man, as a 14 year old I was able to buy some soapbar hash, covered in glue and plastic bags for a rip off price. My money probably ended up going to the IRA.

I couldnt get served alcohol at 14, I could at 16 but that's just because I look older than I am, most people cant.

So, if a 14 year old can unknowing fund terrorism, do you think the system is working? It took me 2 days to get ahold of some 'hash' once I wanted it.

This post says it all IMHO

War on <insert: Drugs/Terror/Flavour of the month>

The governments are spineless for the most part and can't (or won't) admit that they got it wrong.

I wouldn't be overly shocked if Cannabis was pushed back up to Class B here in the UK. The press (as ever) have a field day whenever anyone mentions mental illness and cannabis in the same sentence at the moment.

Bah! Rant over....

Wankers!

[Markass]

The fact that the government has made a fking plant illegal is ludacris. We're entitled to freedom and liberty in this country, but if we decide to smoke an herb that we know isn't going to extensively damage our body like alcohol and tobacco do, we're considered criminals? Bullshit. Potheads are not a threat to society. What better of a substance than something that's impossible to overdose on? Cannabis is a beautiful plant. :)

[WaRuKaWa]

yeah and something else to consider on the prohibition-supposedly-ushering-responsible use argument...im not saying this is a full cause but its definitely a factor: America's standpoint on not only banning certain substances but also upholding a "Just say no" perspective of ignorance.

classes and information rarely spread actual knowledge of a banned substance and when they do they usually cite facts "proven" by biased research funded TO be negative. for instance: there was roughly a 20 year ban by the american government on any research that would show cannabis in good light from the late 70's to late 90's - only funding and priviledge was granted to research planning to show negative results.

im sure a good deal of you reading this have taken and probably even graduated D.A.R.E. - think about what you learned in those classes. "Marijuana causes dizziness, red eyes, impaired motor control, memory loss and brain damage. Many of the carcinogens found in tobacco smoke are also contained in Marijuana smoke. JUST SAY NO!" simple american propaganda. they take a biased view and attempt to derail your will to ever try with it. this control-by-ignorance may heavily spread misuse of any substance (not just cannabis); say, when an ignorant DARE graduate shares a needle with an HIV infected heroin user or tries X for the first time and drinks two gallons of water trying to counter the rumor that youll die of dehydration, only to die because he flooded his system with too much H20. this ignorance system may keep some from ever trying a few things, but it threatens the safety of those with the unstoppable predisposition to experiment to begin with.

JUST SAY NO to that! :mad:

[jamstigator]

The only thing "Just Say No" or DARE ever did for me was keep me from getting a traffic ticket. When you open my wallet, there's my driver's license, then religious identification (ordained minister), then a bunch of "Just Say No" and DARE crap. Cop saw that stuff one time, and just flat out let me go, despite the fact that I blew by him at 50 mph in a 30 mph area on my motorcycle. Heh.

[slowthestone]

Not only is alcohol legal...but thanks to Jimmy Carter back in 79'...in small amounts (100 gallons per adult per household, 200 gallon max per year)...its perfectly legal to brew your own beer or wine at home. And unless a person bottles and sells a product...the only thing taxed were the ingredients. And thats assuming a person purchased the makings for beer or wine to begin with.

Did I mention the part where 'adult' is defined by being of voting age? That is...an 18 year old can legally brew at home what they can't purchase at a store or bar. Go fukn figure.

From prohibition, to legally brewing at home...with no taxation to boot.

If beer and wine can have this status...It's time for folks...and man I mean EVERYONE...to begin writing their Representative in Congress, the Senate...and push the matter to the forefront till they realize...MJ and the home grower are here to stay. Burdening society with policing and enforcing drug laws regarding MJ is lose lose policy.

They lose a taxpayer...and end up having to use other taxpayers to house and care for the grower that ends up incarcerated.

Make it a fiscal argument...local and federal governments alike just love freeing up monies for pet projects...show them how and hope on some common sense to kick in and make the home growers world a safer place.

Even better...because they'd not be able to tax you on a thing not sold...maybe they'd like the amounts of money that would swell their coffers in the form of a 'license to grow'.

Fight the good fight folks...and ffs...don't wait on others to make a thing happen...CONTRIBUTE!

[Markass]

Marijuana isn't a damn bit different from alcohol only that it's not toxic to your body, it won't cause you to have violent rage associated with it's use, nor can you overdose on it. If alcohol is legal, marijuana shouldn't be. Marijuana is more natural than alcohol is, and god intended for it to be used, as did he put the compounds for THC inside a plant rather than in several other things that is all put together, creating some kind of foreign substance. People can grow their own pot and not affect another individual by growing it, nor by smoking it.


And to whoever the hell said something about not caring as to it's legality, let's see you say that when you get about a $1,500 dollar fine for having a quarter bag in your pocket while going to a friends house or something. Point is, we shouldn't get in trouble for this, and anyone who smokes it shouldn't feel like you do about it...and many do which is why it's still illegal. I've been busted for having a pipe and rolling papers. 6 months probation + all kinds of bullshit just because I had a pipe in my pocket? I wasn't hurting anybody..We should not be punished for doing something that isn't even a real crime. It's time for change...I don't want to get busted and have some of my life taken away because I have to go to jail for having some reefers on me..

[orangeman]

Alcohol is legal because the government gets taxes off of it.

[Captain Hanks]

I for one choose to smoke herb only and stay away from alcohol just to make a point. People find that ironic telling me that pot is alot worse. I just look at them and smile and load their tiny brains with information that they can't seem to grasp at possibly because to them it seems to good to be true.

[Markass]

I for one choose to smoke herb only and stay away from alcohol just to make a point. People find that ironic telling me that pot is alot worse. I just look at them and smile and load their tiny brains with information that they can't seem to grasp at possibly because to them it seems to good to be true.


That's what I'm talking about. I do the same thing..Hey buddy, you know how you can't even pronounce your own name now because you're too plastered? Well, I've smoked four joints in the past hour and I feel more ready to do anything than I did before I smoked them. I find alcohol to be just as bad as drugs. Drugs are fucking made, not grown...Cannabis is the shit.

[Dizz-Oh!]

The reason pot is the center of MY universe is because it is a personal freedom that is punishable by prison, in the most free country in the world.

Completely legalized cannabis, and it ceases to be the center of my universe, because then it's just another herb in my garden.

In other words, take away my right to free speech, or to own a gun, and those will become the center of my universe. It's all a matter of personal freedom, freedom from fear.

Criminalize basil, and basil becomes the center of my universe. It's just a fuggin plant.

I abused alchohol for years, very dangerously, finally waking up in the psycho ward one Monday morning, having slept for 36 hours straight. BA was 2.7, which is bad for my size.

I can smoke all the ganja I want, and never once lose control. Well, that's not true if I have ice cream in the house.

Anyhow, I still drink socially, once or twice a month, and can shut it off before I start stripping neked and running around trying to start shit on fire.

All plants should be legal for private cultivation. From opium to coca, to mushrooms and yage. If someone wants to grow a ten pounds and give five away to friends, this should be totally legal and non-taxed. The government has been and always will be the enemy of the farmer, especially the self-sufficient farmer. (Oh yer dreamin dizz,)

Whatever. The human mind seeks out altered states from the very begining (kids spinning around dizzy) to provide a dicotomy of waking consciousness. I'm high on life almost all the time, I use weed to get higher. 15 minutes of yogic breathing works sometimes too.

Although I haven't been able to for months, I smoke it everyday. One could even say religiously. Whatever. It's an arrogant
opression my basic human rights, and as long as the pressure is there, I will fight to completely legalize hemp and cannabis. I only hope that for every pot smoker who thinks criminalization is justified, 2700 others can relate to what I'm saying.

[Markass]

stop dissing alcohol just cause buds illegal. some people can handle there alcohol and don't act stupid

Really? I've yet to experience some of those individuals. No matter who I see that's drunk, they're unable to talk, doing something incredibly fucking stupid, or they're picking a fight with someone. When I get stoned out of my mind, I listen to music and eat food. As do most potheads. You're not going to find many alcoholics who like to sit down and be peaceful in any way. Not dissing alcohol nor its users, just simply stating that in the manner that alcohol impairs people, you can't tell me that drunk people aren't going to act stupid. That's what this substance does. I'm sorry to tell you man, but alcohol is deadly to society when someone gets behind the wheel drunk(which happens all the time), and it's also a toxic substance to your body...Is weed? No. Why's it illegal? Because of bureaucratic bullshit. If you're on these boards, apparently you smoke pot. Don't you want to be able to smoke without being a criminal to society?

[jamstigator]

People in my immediate family who have died from alcohol: 3
People in my immediate family who have died from cannabis: 0

Statistically a small sampling, to be sure. And yet...that's good enough for me. ;)

[azure]

were on this earth and so are plants, its outragous for a goverment body to stop us using something that is provided by nature for us to use.

everything is out there in nature, a cure for all diseases, recreational drugs, building materials and so on, it should grow wild and it all did at one time.

look at pharmaceuticals, its all there in nature and alot of cures have been found and put to use, but once goverments found out that within science you can create a synthetic version which you have to take 5x as many of to get the same effect they where on it.

makes me want to be a tribesperson that you see on tv living in the amazon, living there own lives exempt from stupid laws bieng at one with nature.
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[Markass]

The reason pot is the center of MY universe is because it is a personal freedom that is punishable by prison, in the most free country in the world.

Completely legalized cannabis, and it ceases to be the center of my universe, because then it's just another herb in my garden.

In other words, take away my right to free speech, or to own a gun, and those will become the center of my universe. It's all a matter of personal freedom, freedom from fear.

Criminalize basil, and basil becomes the center of my universe. It's just a fuggin plant.

I abused alchohol for years, very dangerously, finally waking up in the psycho ward one Monday morning, having slept for 36 hours straight. BA was 2.7, which is bad for my size.

I can smoke all the ganja I want, and never once lose control. Well, that's not true if I have ice cream in the house.

Anyhow, I still drink socially, once or twice a month, and can shut it off before I start stripping neked and running around trying to start shit on fire.

All plants should be legal for private cultivation. From opium to coca, to mushrooms and yage. If someone wants to grow a ten pounds and give five away to friends, this should be totally legal and non-taxed. The government has been and always will be the enemy of the farmer, especially the self-sufficient farmer. (Oh yer dreamin dizz,)

Whatever. The human mind seeks out altered states from the very begining (kids spinning around dizzy) to provide a dicotomy of waking consciousness. I'm high on life almost all the time, I use weed to get higher. 15 minutes of yogic breathing works sometimes too.

Although I haven't been able to for months, I smoke it everyday. One could even say religiously. Whatever. It's an arrogant
opression my basic human rights, and as long as the pressure is there, I will fight to completely legalize hemp and cannabis. I only hope that for every pot smoker who thinks criminalization is justified, 2700 others can relate to what I'm saying.


An example of what my argument for alcohol vs. weed. Good story, brother.