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Peach.Optimo.Bluntz
06-18-2006, 01:40 PM
To all the people that suffer from bad anxiety and or paranoia. Do you guys ever notice that smoking marijuana causes your anxiety attacks or paranoia to be worse?. Ive been smoking for some time now and ive been suffering from really bad anxiety for a few years and just this past year i got this awsome gift of paranoia :rolleyes:. Im not absolutley positive, but i think that smoking MJ makes my anxiety attacks worse when im sober. Some times my anxiety attacks get so bad that i have to just sit back and relaxe for an hour just to regain control. The reason i ask is because i noticed that when i dont smoke all day, my anxiety isnt so bad. I also wanted to hear other peoples opinions and experiences. Thanks.
birdgirl73
06-18-2006, 02:05 PM
I've found the same thing, Peach. Weed doesn't seem to help my anxiety levels. In fact, the last two times I've smoked, it's downright brought anxiety on when it wasn't there at the surface before. I am never sure if that's because I already have a baseline of feeling worried and scared or if it's because of the weed itself. It might be different with another strain. Right now the solution for me is going to be to not smoke because I don't seem to do very well at making myself feel better. I'm pretty well convinced that for me personally, it has also aggravated a feeling of depression, too.
Peach.Optimo.Bluntz
06-18-2006, 02:12 PM
yeah its a real bummer. Ive read some where that alot of people that use Marijuana in the long term, have experienced problems such as Anxiety and paranoia. They say it can take years and years of smoking before you experiences the anxiety and paranoia while stoned.
braddog10
06-18-2006, 02:20 PM
To all the people that suffer from bad anxiety and or paranoia. Do you guys ever notice that smoking marijuana causes your anxiety attacks or paranoia to be worse?. Ive been smoking for some time now and ive been suffering from really bad anxiety for a few years and just this past year i got this awsome gift of paranoia :rolleyes:. Im not absolutley positive, but i think that smoking MJ makes my anxiety attacks worse when im sober. Some times my anxiety attacks get so bad that i have to just sit back and relaxe for an hour just to regain control. The reason i ask is because i noticed that when i dont smoke all day, my anxiety isnt so bad. I also wanted to hear other peoples opinions and experiences. Thanks.
Peach see a Dr., It is most likely a chem. inbalance. I suffered Anxiety in High school. Weed use during the time didn't help. Now that There is special order, You can try something on the Sativa side of the fence and do fine.
bralasta
06-18-2006, 02:26 PM
I have paranoia attacks, or as I call them spac outs.
when I have one I cant leave my house, unless I have to, due to me thinking the police are after me or people are waching me I just wait them out then im fine so it doesnt realy bother me.
curious101
06-18-2006, 03:27 PM
I have suffered with anxiety and panic attacks for the last four years...i used to smoke grass in high school and it seemed to help with the anxiety although it may increase when high is depleted...best bet would be to see a psychiatrist and get yourself checked out before u keep smokin grass, just to be on the safe side.
:)
nightlight
06-18-2006, 03:42 PM
i used to have really bad anxiety and was put on a bunch of different medications that never worked out. ironically, i find a nice indica evens me out better than any of that fda approved bullshit and plus i get high.
Doctor mj
06-18-2006, 05:21 PM
I used to have some major anxiety and a bit of paranoia, i Still do sometimes,
But i learned from a doctor Vitamin B complex vitamins and calcium:magnesinum supplements help anxiety.
I have 2 pills of each daily, and i've become more social, i guess the vitamins produce the chemicals in the brain to function properly. I guess its the natural antidepressent, which really works for me.
Oh and OMEGA 3 oils (you can buy them in pill form) are great for depression.
Now i can smoke in peace without the anxiety and bullshit.
But i still sometimes cant even function when im blitz, trying to order food in a fast food store. lol.
MegaOctane12
06-18-2006, 08:06 PM
Whenever I smoke it always make anxiety a shit load worse. I duno if its because weed relaxes you so much your not used to being relaxed so you feel out of control, or it affects your body physicologically causing you to be more anxious, I could take a guess but I don't really know shit about it. I know one thing though, alot of anxiety is in the head it really isn't all about chemical imbalance. Like the guy above posted, vitamins, especially B1 B2 B3 help a shit load with anxiety. Also cardio and weight training help as well. You could have SAD, social anxiety disorder. Best to get checked out.
Also alot of people who post about smoking weed for medicinal purposes say go for a Sativa dominant strain and some others say the opposite, others so a mixture, which is it.
WhiskeyGirl
06-18-2006, 08:15 PM
For me Anxeity, well Im not really into toking, just once in awhile, not really into to drinkin,I dont drink that I cant stop, which is good.But I do steal my hubby's valiums(which he knows, gives me some but hides the rest.LOL)
But i find the anxeity creeps in when I dont take a V-- I know you saying, well your addicted, I guess I am, but I try my darnest to go without n just have like a wine cooler to take the edge off, that works:)
But i dunno...nothing calms my nerves like a valium NOTHING.
WG
Also, this is funny , but ide rather pop a pill than keep drinking, cause i gotta P all the time!!!LOL
Coughka
06-18-2006, 08:42 PM
I used to have terrible paranoia and anxiety in High School. It got to the point where I had to drop out for a while, and then get my diploma at a CC. It was all due to marijuana abuse. But, I kept smoking. I wasn't going to let a little panic attack stop me from doing what I loved.
A lot of my friend's went through the same thing, and they quit as a result. I just smoked straight through my paranoia, and now I don't suffer from anything but the munchies. If you can handle it, I suggest you just keep sailing in the eye of the storm. Because on the other side theres sunshine, and a lot of it. :D
Sauce
06-18-2006, 09:01 PM
It helps with my anxiety, i never really had a bad case of paranoia caused by marijuana which is weird but it tends to make me calm
braddog10
06-18-2006, 10:41 PM
To all the people that suffer from bad anxiety and or paranoia. Do you guys ever notice that smoking marijuana causes your anxiety attacks or paranoia to be worse?. Ive been smoking for some time now and ive been suffering from really bad anxiety for a few years and just this past year i got this awsome gift of paranoia :rolleyes:. Im not absolutley positive, but i think that smoking MJ makes my anxiety attacks worse when im sober. Some times my anxiety attacks get so bad that i have to just sit back and relaxe for an hour just to regain control. The reason i ask is because i noticed that when i dont smoke all day, my anxiety isnt so bad. I also wanted to hear other peoples opinions and experiences. Thanks.
Hey Peach, I didn't feel comfortable with my last post. Their are numerous reasons why an individual could be experiencing anxiety. The coarse of action is stipulated primarily to address the root cause. For some.... alpha blockers, such as Paxil work ok as long as the side affects don't exceed the benefit.
If the problem is due to bipolar disorder, therapies that utilize antidepressants such as paxal are avoided and deemed potentially harmful.
Again, If you are suffering the affects of bipolar, weed can either be very calming and pleasurable, or cause you to move more into manic behaviors, where people typically - avoid sleep, may pace alot, have busy minds, and can even become aggressive. Which by the way is where I fall into the equation.
I am not a Dr. neither is anyone else here that I have noticed. The bulk of any advise hear is to be considered as such. Probing for others experiences is certainly understandable. But, we are all wired very differently.
For example, MJ has a radically different affect on the mood of individuals, depending on - if an individuals cannabinoid receptors are primarily post synaptic or pre-synaptic. Of coarse there are differences between Indica and Sativa. What I am addressing is the fact that ~ there are major "hard wiring" differences between people. One persons experience or advise is really not worth anything.
I'm sorting thru these issues myself. The fact is that some have gotten into real trouble wired a certain way, .... Some with post synaptic receptors, a bit on the manic side of the bipolar fence with an appetite for Sativa. Kind of like...... Hello Nitro... meet Glycerin.
I'm attaching a link for a bipolar screen......More and more Dr's are looking at this before prescribing antidepressants, something that has comeout of the latest lawsuits.
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Depression/nimh/bipolar_screening_test.asp
And If you check too many boxes? ....Do what It says and "GO SEE A DR."
Your PCPhysician can refer you to the right specialist. I would have liked my tweekiness, tweaked back along time ago. Exorcise is a real deal and diet, both of which I was very involved in. However I still found my self - anxious, uncomfortable, enjoying others was hard. This was very much a chemical issue. regardless of what others here postulate. Or if I happened to have Indica or sativa at the time.
My current search has been a process of elimination. Primarily, elimination. Tho I may see benefits pain wise. All meds must be evaluated if the problems exceed the benefit.
Doctor mj
06-18-2006, 10:58 PM
That test is complete bullshit
"I sometimes canā??t stop talking and I talk really fast." How stupid is that, everyone does that once in their life of some sort, or people are just born like that, thats no sign of a mental disorder.
"I don't feel like eating much."
" I feel like eating all the time."
WTF ?? so if you pick one, its either u have a mental disorder?!?!?!
"I find it hard to focus and am very forgetful." MARIJUANA?!?!? SIDE EFFECTS?!??!
"I don't feel like talking to people." Everyone gets like that once in a while.
Everyone who has anxiety, listen to me, stop using drugs like xanax and all those other bullshit, and take 2 pills of Vitamin B complex daily and 2 pills calicum:magnesium daily and 3 doses of omega3 fish oils daily.
Within a month MAX, you'll notice your mood is much happier and you can be less anxious, and can actually be social.
It worked for me. Might as well try it out, Its cheaper than buying xanax monthly. GO TO YOUR LOCAL NATURAL VITAMIN STORE. (GNC is not recommended)
1234abcd
06-18-2006, 11:01 PM
It helps with my anxiety, sometimes I just want to go crazy, but then I go to marry, and she calms me down :stoned:
Kryzco
06-18-2006, 11:02 PM
I'm a paranoid fuck
and weed makes it worse
but the pretty colors are worth it :rasta:
Peach.Optimo.Bluntz
06-18-2006, 11:55 PM
haha thanks for the input guys. Some times i feel like im the only one in the world that has these problems. Its good to see im not the only one. It just sucks because i really enjoy tokin.
braddog10
06-18-2006, 11:55 PM
That test is complete bullshit
"I sometimes canā??t stop talking and I talk really fast." How stupid is that, everyone does that once in their life of some sort, or people are just born like that, thats no sign of a mental disorder.
"I don't feel like eating much."
" I feel like eating all the time."
WTF ?? so if you pick one, its either u have a mental disorder?!?!?!
"I find it hard to focus and am very forgetful." MARIJUANA?!?!? SIDE EFFECTS?!??!
"I don't feel like talking to people." Everyone gets like that once in a while.
Everyone who has anxiety, listen to me, stop using drugs like xanax and all those other bullshit, and take 2 pills of Vitamin B complex daily and 2 pills calicum:magnesium daily and 3 doses of omega3 fish oils daily.
Within a month MAX, you'll notice your mood is much happier and you can be less anxious, and can actually be social.
It worked for me. Might as well try it out, Its cheaper than buying xanax monthly. GO TO YOUR LOCAL NATURAL VITAMIN STORE. (GNC is not recommended)
The Irony here ~ You call yourself Doctor something. Is only exceeded by your stupidity. If you had any knowledge at all you would know I was not referring to xanax or seroquel. Again stupidity is obvious.
braddog10
06-19-2006, 12:06 AM
That test is complete bullshit
"I sometimes canā??t stop talking and I talk really fast." How stupid is that, everyone does that once in their life of some sort, or people are just born like that, thats no sign of a mental disorder.
"I don't feel like eating much."
" I feel like eating all the time."
WTF ?? so if you pick one, its either u have a mental disorder?!?!?!
"I find it hard to focus and am very forgetful." MARIJUANA?!?!? SIDE EFFECTS?!??!
"I don't feel like talking to people." Everyone gets like that once in a while.
Everyone who has anxiety, listen to me, stop using drugs like xanax and all those other bullshit, and take 2 pills of Vitamin B complex daily and 2 pills calicum:magnesium daily and 3 doses of omega3 fish oils daily.
Within a month MAX, you'll notice your mood is much happier and you can be less anxious, and can actually be social.
It worked for me. Might as well try it out, Its cheaper than buying xanax monthly. GO TO YOUR LOCAL NATURAL VITAMIN STORE. (GNC is not recommended)
Again, Post like this from self professed know it all idiots that ~ may have ~ graduated high school,............. keep an educated society that makes up the FDA, pharmaceutical and the health industry from ever considering anyone involved in this SANE. YOU RUIN OUR EFFORTS. SIMPLE F**K comes to mind.
Doctor mj
06-19-2006, 01:13 AM
Again, Post like this from self professed know it all idiots that ~ may have ~ graduated high school,............. keep an educated society that makes up the FDA, pharmaceutical and the health industry from ever considering anyone involved in this SANE. YOU RUIN OUR EFFORTS. SIMPLE F**K comes to mind.
WOW excuse me.
All i said was that test is complete bullshit, i wasnt dissing you. Im sure your the MR doctor around here, and everyone should always consider your thoughts to be superior than others.( my name has nothing to do with this)
I am well educated, and yes i understand the FDA and corporations are working together for "profit." How dare you call me FDA material.
Im sure name calling and using words such as "simple fuck" are there to put me down?
You have anger problems, you big loser. I BET YOU THAT ANXIETY TEST IS FDA APPROVED!!! (NOW THATS THE IRONY)
braddog10
06-19-2006, 02:12 AM
That test is complete bullshit
"I sometimes canā??t stop talking and I talk really fast." How stupid is that, everyone does that once in their life of some sort, or people are just born like that, thats no sign of a mental disorder.
"I don't feel like eating much."
" I feel like eating all the time."
WTF ?? so if you pick one, its either u have a mental disorder?!?!?!
"I find it hard to focus and am very forgetful." MARIJUANA?!?!? SIDE EFFECTS?!??!
"I don't feel like talking to people." Everyone gets like that once in a while.
Everyone who has anxiety, listen to me, stop using drugs like xanax and all those other bullshit, and take 2 pills of Vitamin B complex daily and 2 pills calicum:magnesium daily and 3 doses of omega3 fish oils daily.
Within a month MAX, you'll notice your mood is much happier and you can be less anxious, and can actually be social.
It worked for me. Might as well try it out, Its cheaper than buying xanax monthly. GO TO YOUR LOCAL NATURAL VITAMIN STORE. (GNC is not recommended)
Look, I hit you a little hard, but, something you obviously do not understand, to any knowledgeable, is that questionnaire is a quick screen to determine if further looks are merited.
The questions can develop a trend that can somewhat or strongly indicate Mania, depression or compulsions. You are apparently ignorant of these things which are considered base among many. That's why I found your protest to scream your ignorance.
It is also clear to me that you again are either - ignorant or have some need for weed to be some perfect panacea, or both.
Are you degreed in internal medicine? Howbout Pharmacology, whom have their doctorates by the way. Ok, howabout both of these along with about 30 years of R&D?
Wait till you give someone the wrong advise, something unfortunate happens, complaints are filed, warrants Issued and your turned over to police.
A couple questions....Are you an adult? You will go to jail.
Are you a punk kid..... What gives you the audacity to spar with researchers.
See why I think your a dumb-ass.
Should of kicked your ass on the 1st post.
braddog10
06-19-2006, 02:39 AM
dude I appologize, I'm abit sensitive about this since so much of the advice given here is so misinformed and often stupid. I'm concerned about the level of exposure (legally) that this kind of activity is creating for ~ not only those immediately involved, but of the moderators and owners themselves.
I suggested a Dr's visit would be an appropriate aproach. I indicated that I was not a Dr.. Everyone else should also be very discriminating with their advise.
Jay Matix
06-19-2006, 02:40 AM
back in like 11th grade. probably like the 2nd or 3rd time i got high i was paranoid as fuck.
it's all in your mind. weed relaxes your mind and makes you think. sometimes you think negatively or release some fears/worries. doing this over and over can cause paranoia/anxiety i think....
i don't know but just a thought
Stellar
06-19-2006, 02:49 AM
I find myself thinking about shit or getting nervous about things that I know are going to happen in the future and the outcomes of what those things will be according to what I do or how I perform in that situation a lot less on pot.
Seems like a good burndown takes me out of the center of the world and lets me see that whole other vibe that I don't see when all I am doing is thinking about myself and what will happen to me... I get to just exist in the moment and the moment is all that matters then.
I can't imagine enjoying it if it did the exact opposite and made me keep worrying about my dumbass self even worse.
braddog10
06-19-2006, 03:07 AM
It does as I mentioned, have a wide range effect on many different people due to innumerable physiological reasons. Some positive, sometimes neg.
Some has not worked for me at all in the past. Being here is part of my own study. Stellar, many would argue that your application would delay growth needed to cope. I think that's a bit simplistic. I know for some, It is the only time they feel normal. Many shrinks would consider that a successful therapy, for any med.
I appreciate your and Jay Matrix candor. I need to learn a bit more before I personally know if it would be good for me. the two different strains I've tried were not. Being Bipolar on the manic side of the game, poses it's own problems.
I respect your humility.
birdgirl73
06-19-2006, 03:21 AM
Hey, doctor MJ and Brad. I'm hoping you guys got things settled between the two of you because you both are contributors whose posts I enjoy and value. There were a couple of troubling factual things that jumped out at me when I read the posts above, however, and it'll make me nuts if I don't at least go on the record so that others aren't misled.
First was something you wrote, Brad, and that was a reference to Paxil as an alpha blocker. Paxil is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor antidepressant and not any sort of blocker. I think perhaps you were thinking of alpha and beta blockers, which relax blood vessels and smooth muscle. Alpha blockers aren't used as widely nowadays because newer, more effective medicines that have taken their place. But they are still sometimes prescribed to lower blood pressure or make it easier for people with enlarged prostates to urinate. Beta blockers are used for similar reasons and are also sometimes prescribed to take the edge off anxiety.
Doctor MJ, I can understand why your initial reaction might have been that that link Brad provided with potential bipolar screening questions was baloney because it is rather rudimentary. But believe it or not, that's still the first-line list of screening questions every doctor, nurse-practitioner, psychiatrist, or other mental health professional asks when beginning to screen for bipolar disorder. It does not in any way provide a definitive diagnosis, but it's where they all start. A yes answer on several of those signals them to probe with further questions. If it were taken at face value and allowed to be a diagnostic tool all on its own, then it would indeed be baloney. But intelligent, competent professionals standardly use it as a starting point. Look in every standard medical book and/or Web site, and you'll find that very list of Qs.
I know there are several folks here on the boards who believe vitamins and or dietary changes such as fish oil are the answer to many mental health issues, and indeed, those may be winning solutions for lots of people. They have been for me. I personally believe everyone ought to be screened for nutritional deficiencies and ought to try vitamin and dietary adjustments as a first line of treatment rather than immediately jumping on the mainstream medicine-pharma bandwagon. I fully intend to promote this very philosophy as I progress through my own medical career.
I sincerely hope that everyone can learn not to castigate others for embracing one way of thinking over another because everyone has different beliefs and value systems. Bipolar disorder in particular is a very tricky, hard-to-diagnose problem, and for many people, standard prescription medicines are highly successful.
OK, there. I had to say that stuff or I would have had trouble sleeping tonight. My apologies in advance for having used so many words to do so.
Stellar
06-19-2006, 03:40 AM
I don't think much into the mental analysis side of things, really.
I'm not nuetral enough for it. A lot of proffessionals in the feild aren't even aware that they are not nuetral enough for it. Sometimes, people look for something in someone that they know exists in other people for a way to identify what they see in someone else with what they understand about something else. Sometimes, people are just like fucked up oija boards that want to push the cursor to 'good' or 'bad'. I'd either do one or the other, so I don't even embarass myself with trying to get into the whole scene with my limited ability to not apply myself or something I know to other people. Its a definite indicator that I have a heavy ego, at any rate... I was probably going somewhere with all of that, but, I'll be damned if I remember where..
I guess, what I will say about being high on Marijuana and not...
Sobriety, to me, is like living to be a variable in a scenario I've set up to happen or that I intend to set up to happen. This is not always bad, not always good, it simply depends on how I choose to feel about it. Sobriety, to me, is like using your brain as your drug of choice. You can choose how you want to feel about today and tomorrow. You can pick the positive, you can pick the negative. Depending on what you pick, reality changes. Its all because of your brain. To me, spending too much time picking one thing can lead to delusion. You can delude yourself into sadness, or into righteousness. To be honest, I would truly always like to be positive. To feel as if I am happy and my atitude for every moment is right. Unfortunately, I both understand that I am limited and will not always understand what the right atitude will be for a given situation and that negativity is a factor in the world that noone can completely ignore without lying to themselves.
Being high on weed, to me, is like living in the moment. It lets me put down the ego about myself and how important I make myself and the things I do am and lets me be calm and feel like I'm just there, and the things I do are just the things I do. I kinda like not always feeling like I have to find the great answer or feel compelled to worry about what's next... I'll just float on the river and get there.
There are religious omissions to everything, as well. It kinda drives me in either state of mind, but, I tried to say whatever the fuck I just tried to say without mentioning it to keep it universally... uh... .... I should have put he pipe down one sentence into this... understandable!
Since I have been smoking my anxiety has almost gone completely.. it has worked for me very well.
braddog10
06-19-2006, 03:43 AM
Oh, Kiddo
Thank you again I can always trust your gentle nudge of correction, I'm currently also trying to get off of a bunch of stuff. I left my Adderall and Ambian at my hotel. I think that the new bipolar meds are going to be sufficient now, hoping it will also relieve what had been earlier thought ADD.
Thank you for clarifying Paxil, yeah, your right. I was actually thinking alpha or beta since I knew about the anxiety.... well thanks Bird.
Also, Doctor MJ, when an individual comes off amphetamines..... It ain't smooth. What is this....day 3. been on it for years. Looks like good time to stay off and see If I can stay on task.
I hope this helps but, I feel agitated and lets se..... ummmm . shit comes to mind.. yes, yes, definitely shit. I feel like shit......ok ya'll probab...ummmm.......Am I still ADD?
Hey, Doc. just trying to appologize. so sorry dude.
I went later and read some of your other posts, your not an Idiot, or stupid.
Hope your papers come out ok, and No! I don't have a copy of the canadian laws. But, I hope your own research is succesful.
And Bird.... I love you like family
birdgirl73
06-19-2006, 04:02 AM
Thanks, Brad. I gotta tell you that I worry about your taking all the meds you've mentioned in various places, especially with a diagnosis of bipolar. Everything I've read about that particular condition leads me to believe less medication rather than more is better. It's dangerously easy to get into a pharmaceutical up-down roller coaster with that problem, and you already have a huge roller coaster to deal with with bipolar alone. If you start with lithium salts. Then mix in an amphetamine like Adderall and a narcotic-like sleeper such as Ambien. Then account for whatever other prescription meds you take. Plus grass. Plus alcohol if you use that, too. The end result is a huge tossed salad of medicines and substances that don't do a thing for anyone but the pharmaceutical industry.
I find myself wondering if a single doctor or pharmacist knows about all your meds and blesses them or if they've been obtained from several prescription-writers who don't know what the other guys are prescribing. If you can, please get one intelligent, sensible doc to look at everything you're taking and let him try and simplify things, starting with lithium as a base, so your mental and physical health won't be in peril from the all-too-frequent problem of too many pills.
Peach.Optimo.Bluntz
06-19-2006, 02:17 PM
Since I have been smoking my anxiety has almost gone completely.. it has worked for me very well.
man... your so lucky.
braddog10
06-19-2006, 05:08 PM
Thanks, Brad. I gotta tell you that I worry about your taking all the meds you've mentioned in various places, especially with a diagnosis of bipolar. Everything I've read about that particular condition leads me to believe less medication rather than more is better. It's dangerously easy to get into a pharmaceutical up-down roller coaster with that problem, and you already have a huge roller coaster to deal with with bipolar alone. If you start with lithium salts. Then mix in an amphetamine like Adderall and a narcotic-like sleeper such as Ambien. Then account for whatever other prescription meds you take. Plus grass. Plus alcohol if you use that, too. The end result is a huge tossed salad of medicines and substances that don't do a thing for anyone but the pharmaceutical industry.
I find myself wondering if a single doctor or pharmacist knows about all your meds and blesses them or if they've been obtained from several prescription-writers who don't know what the other guys are prescribing. If you can, please get one intelligent, sensible doc to look at everything you're taking and let him try and simplify things, starting with lithium as a base, so your mental and physical health won't be in peril from the all-too-frequent problem of too many pills.
Bird your right and I do go thru just one Dr. for all psyc meds. I knew It was time to drop adderall,. which would remove need for ambian. Alcohol, does not agree with me. Lithium and Lamictal have been the most on target so far, Weed I have dropped, since it would move me toward mania.
So...... I'll currently stay with my drug of choice, which is excessive work, and tossed salads, Oh...... I can't believe I said that!! Well, We'll keep that In the bed room.
Summary; Work, Sex when avail., Lamictal, Lithium, and Thyroid. Since, the chronic pain is gone(thyroid issue). My need for weed is diminished greatly.
You are absolutely on target. I also am trying to find homeostasis. Its like we pass each other, to find ourselves turning around and again watching as we both pass by each other again from across the median. YoYo would be a good metaphor. Howbout, two YoYo's on the ends of the same string.
Nicotine, Has been one of my most stupid habits, which screws with all of the above.
muncheemama
06-19-2006, 11:25 PM
I was on effexor for a long time for depression, and I felt dead...no highs, it sucked..the I tried to get off of them, and it felt like a herion withdrawal(ive never done herion) or something, it is a horrible medication...but then I tried wellbutrin...OMG its awesome, I have a sex drive, i get HAPPY, i have energy, but I have to say I am paranoid as hell...all the time, I feel like im being watched..its wierd...but then i get embaressed that i feel like that, because, I mean, why are poeple watching "ME" ?? duh...i dont know..quit staring at me
birdgirl73
06-20-2006, 01:11 AM
I had the very same experience with Effexor--and just felt flattened out and nothing. No emotions of any kind, and no sex drive, either. Wellbutrin worked much better for me, too, but I still didn't like the way I felt as well as I did when I wasn't on anything. Now I just exercise and am trying to make sure all my vitamins and minerals are at the right levels. I'm sure I'd feel more upbeat if my sister weren't so sick, so I've just gotten used to the fact that I'm in an unhappy-making situation with that.
UncleChunky
06-20-2006, 01:47 AM
Wellbutrin will exacerbate bi-poler disorder, it is not fun at all. Paxil was ok but gained alot of weight on it. Lexapro is the best I have found so far.
I can't smoke alot without replaying moments or conversations in my head. I can twist around the most innocent conversation to seem like either I said something sinister or someone else said something that I took way out of context. That snowballs into intense anxiety, I swear if i get too high I spin every conversation I had in the last week. So what I do Is take one hit, wait 30-45 min and take another, slowly build the high and then it isnt so bad.
None of this used to happen until I had a real bad acid trip.
WhiskeyGirl
06-20-2006, 02:52 AM
For me Anxeity, well Im not really into toking, just once in awhile, not really into to drinkin,I dont drink that I cant stop, which is good.But I do steal my hubby's valiums(which he knows, gives me some but hides the rest.LOL)
But i find the anxeity creeps in when I dont take a V-- I know you saying, well your addicted, I guess I am, but I try my darnest to go without n just have like a wine cooler to take the edge off, that works:)
But i dunno...nothing calms my nerves like a valium NOTHING.
WG
Also, this is funny , but ide rather pop a pill than keep drinking, cause i gotta P all the time!!!LOL[/QUOTE]
Big Calhoun
06-20-2006, 02:59 AM
It only happens to me the first time I smoke after taking a long break. After the high sets in, my heart is fluttering and I get real paranoid. Always think the cops are going to walk in on me or whoever I bought from was really a cop. But once I realize what's happening, it takes me about 5 minutes to get back to normal and I'm fine until my next break. Weird. I couldn't imagine experiencing it EVERY time I smoked. I'd have to quit.
L3G10N
06-20-2006, 03:09 AM
Smoking Mj for me gives me anxiety. My body gets tense and my stomach tightens making me think i feel sick. It really sucks. It never used to be like this, mj used to make me feel so damn awesome, laid back, euphoric as hell. Im thinking my anxiety is diet related. I know i am deficient in many vitamins, and because of that i have stomach problems and anxiety.
braddog10
06-20-2006, 03:45 AM
I had the very same experience with Effexor--and just felt flattened out and nothing. No emotions of any kind, and no sex drive, either. Wellbutrin worked much better for me, too.
Hey Bird,
I should really stay off the boards,. until this adderall withdrawl is over. I felt aggitated at a meeting tonight. Hope I'm able to chase down homeostasis in traffic.
Man, Effexor? .. .. Did you mean Sideffexor. How about the shooters?...... remember those bizzare shooting, nerves thru the body.
Almost as bad as this...............ahhhh............not really.
Come on Bird......................The tossed Salad....................Now thats funny!!!!!
muncheemama
06-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Hey Bird,
I should really stay off the boards,. until this adderall withdrawl is over. I felt aggitated at a meeting tonight. Hope I'm able to chase down homeostasis in traffic.
Man, Effexor? .. .. Did you mean Sideffexor. How about the shooters?...... remember those bizzare shooting, nerves thru the body.
Almost as bad as this...............ahhhh............not really.
Come on Bird......................The tossed Salad....................Now thats funny!!!!!
yeah...those brain shiver things..i stayed on them a year longer than i wanted to because of the withdrawals..tried to quit at least 5 or 6 times...i was told it was from the long half lifes or some garbage like that....absolutely unbearable
Reefer Rogue
06-22-2006, 10:21 AM
I'll only get minor paranoia in the U.S but only because they'll rape you up the ass if they catch you. In London they don't really give a shit. So many people take the piss and blaze whereever the fuck they want.
muncheemama
06-30-2006, 11:32 PM
this one...
certain high-grade sativa's are well known to bring on paranoia and related effects. c99 is one along with haze and the exotic sat's like cambodian and thai. try a known indica and see if it does the same...i'll put a case of beer on it saying that'll fix it!
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